#but feels weird putting DA discourse in their tag

[5mcsinatrenchcoat]

(Not a plot spoiler, but skip this if you're unaware of what everyone is recently complaining about)

I've almost reached acceptance stage with the whole choices thing (I guess I'll just treat Veilguard like something akin to Absolution - a story focused on a particular party where everything else is glossed over and cameos conveniently don't have time to mention anything).

I am, however, boggled by the fact that people are comparing it to ME3 in terms of your choices not mattering. Like, hello?

Sure, ME3 fucked up with the endings with a similar sentiment, only thing that really mattered in any capacity was how much power you've amassed (some endings don't get unlocked on low power levels), while everything else just mattered in your heart. I'll say, I don't have too much beef with that one, but it is a complaint many had. It also obviously doesn't follow up if Shepard died in ME2 and has some fuckery with the Council returning to status quo.

As far as "references and cameos" go tho? Put some damn respect on her name!!! They've followed through with so much stuff you chose in the last games, starting with mentions (i.e. dialogue changes depending on if you played Arrival), small cameos like Kirrahe if he survived aaall the way back in ME1, BIG cameos of basically every single one of your old squadmates showing up and having at least one related questline. And they did it following up on two games where A LOT of those people could've died. Didn't stop them. Put in replacements for every single important one (see: Wrex's brother leading the Tuchanka mission if Wrex was killed in ME1) so that they had a place reserved in the story IF they happened to be alive. Instead of, y'know, shelving everyone who could've been dead at some point or weirdly 'resurrecting' them. Your episodic romances like Kelly made an appearance. A terrorist guy you let go (if you did) in ME1 showed up to try and kill you again.

The genophage quest acknowledged if you destroyed the cure research in ME2. The fate of Rannoch could suffer depending on how you've handled Tali's and Legion's quests in the previous game.

There was SO MUCH. What sorta fumbled your choices was the ending, not the continuity with the previous installments. I WISH that continuity work was what we got with DAtV.

Like, we have a right to be upset (I am still upset. I'm just very tired and opt to focus on the positives for my own well-being), but get your facts right 😤 It's not a 'ME3 problem', it's like a direct opposite - new choices (allegedly) matter, old ones ditched.

[zignifier]

y does it feel like ppl r nuanceposting abt the Gendered or Not of dude/bro etc right after i had just like articulated in my head that im fine using it w/ my guy friends that are Verifiably Not misogynists and Da Gorls but will rage if some random guy calls me that...

e.g. this one which this post is gonna primarily be in conversation w/ which i say coz i hate. vague discourse clearly inspired by a particular post that is not being named For Some Reasonnn. & not coz i think OP of that should have shit slung at her but like i disagree w/ some of her points but the way im gonna articulate it i think would kinda be disrespectful to Ask her to like. Engage Me coz there's gonna b a huge gap in effortposting here lol. like i don't wanna be shoving this in her notifs thru the tags even.

anyway i don't think it makes sense to say there's non-gendered usage of "dude" or "you guys" i think it makes more sense to say it's not unilaterally an act of gendering to the way those nouns standalone. like. me saying "duuude" to my cis sister is Completely And Utterly Different to saying it to some random woman Because of the gendered connotations even if im not asserting thru the saying that my sister Is A Man. i think arguing that me doing that is Not Gendered just doesn't make sense coz we r ultimately referencing a sort of camaraderie that is more culturally understood to be amongst, well, dudes. like there is no equivalent for women (maybe i elaborated more on that elsewhere)

and w/ "you guys" yea i think it's unfair when ppl like. get on tfems ass abt calling their friends that. like that is not not gendered, but it's just so...bad faith and like...that shit of how tmes can be all Genderfuck teehee but when tfems do anything outside of the strictest definitions of womanhood suddenly they're male-socialized and Don't Know What Oppression is & tmes gotta come in and tell 'em Ummm...Don't you know about "misgendering" ? And btw you're doing it to your friend rn... Massively condescending esp w/ dialect/idiolect considerations being different for cis women.

But i think certain people should just fully stop saying that shit and stop using the fact its embedded in the dialect as an excuse... I think like, teachers doctors etc people with power should not be saying it to their students etc. Like, if there's just so clearly that kinda power dynamic where someone being like Hey...that makes me uncomfortable is not Amongst Peers. then just avoid. that situation in the first place. coz anyway I've had bad experiences trying to tell teachers to be mindful of that shit and yknow it just put me on blast in front of my peers too & im not even transfeminine. & well idk if any transfems saw the way teachers reacted to me trying to navigate gendered hell and took the lesson to be even smaller abt it coz like tbh. as much as my teachers were openly hostile to me for being nonbinary i think the implicit ways they were transmisogynist tied into existing structures more to like. prevent tfems from like. even being in the discourse let alone Exist. idk if that makes sense.

& related im reminded of a time a black coworker said to me like "Girl, yadda yadda" and i was like. Don't call me girl. and she was like OKAAAY 🙄and i was like internally. damn lol i didn't think she'd be transphobic that was weird like is saying "girl" that important to her geez. and then later she was like OMG. I'M SORRY. When you said earlier that thing about "girl"... I mean you use he/him pronouns* right? (something like that she asked sorta rhetorically I don't super remember) and i was like oh lmao she thought i meant I'm not YOUR girl like. like im being racist and unfamiliar w/ her. Damn.

but it's weird coz like. i wasn't opposed to the familiarity expressed in her saying that but i Was...in a sense being unfamiliar because my discomfort arose from the possibility she was trying to box me into being a cis woman. and if that possibility was absolutely out of my mind i would've been ok w/ it as a like. oh she says that to everyone & well also i am gay. yknow. The Girls And The Gays But Sometimes You Just Say Girls We Have Fun Here. ig tho probably she realized that was the case and thus the apology coz similar shit happens across racialized lines too.

but yeah anyway that too and going back to the teacher thing tho...idk the extent that Well just avoid it. dictum can even apply in the case of like. e.g. a gay teacher like...in order to articulate one's gender u kinda have to make statements abt other ppl's genders and how ur relating to them. so like thru this demand of the teacher not gendering students like...are we arriving at a conclusion of teachers being forced to exist as...not meaningful gendered subjects which is ofc in the real world gonna mean they're Basically Cishet Assimilated? are we sharpening our pitchforks coz da flamboyant teacher said "hey girlies" and letting more Degendering shit slide coz it's less outside the bounds of what we already think is acceptable or Appears to be Non-confrontational? like. "hey girlies" is i think a challenge. coz it signals a dif gendered ingroup (which isn't necessarily literally comprised of Woman-Identified People) than the Norm. & to completely preclude that, what effects would that have on the need for camaraderie and seeing self thru other for marginalized students that their white cishet etc peers have much more access to by default?

ig tho forms of address are not the only way this occurs so idk how much it matters but i don't have an answer to this broadly anyway lawl food for thought tho.

[jackabbot]

I’m a new fan (yes a post Bi Buck binge watcher, just finished season 5 yesterday ((yes I have a lot of free time)).

And this is definitely opening up old discourse, so feel free to disregard.

But. I struggled so hard to like Taylor. I tried desperately not to do the “toxic slash shipper who hates the girlfriend” thing, but I just could not like her with Buck. I think as a character, she was great! Love a motivated girlboss who pushes buttons, but not so much when she’s being girlboss mean to her boyfriend. (Not that Buck didn’t deserve it once or twice for his late season 5 bs)

But I just don’t know what it was about Buck and Taylor specifically that I didn’t like. I liked Ana and Eddie. I even liked Ali and Buck.

What was the general fandom temperature regarding Taylor and Buck during Season 5?

hoooo okay.

so first of all, welcome to the fandom, hope you can find fun people to hang out with 💛

mind you, I wasn't around during season 5, I was lurking in the trending tags so I kinda knew what was going on with buddie in general lmao but I only actually watched the show in august (took me less than 2 weeks to binge it all the way through, so believe me I know how you feel) but Taylor Kelly is... well.

let me just start by saying that I love Taylor, but she feels like she's been written by two different writers room (which is actually kind of the cast because Tim wasn't around during season 5) and while I love her bossy, career driven characteristics, I felt mad about how dirty she was done.

and not even because Buck kissed some else, but because she straight up said (paraphrasing) "you cheated on me? i don't think you should've told me about it, that's not why i'm mad" and like. what?

for a strong, confident woman in a committed relationship to just say it's okay if you cheat on me, I don't care, just don't tell me? ngl that gutted me a little bit.

aside from that, Taylor and Buck was never going to work, partially because they are too similiar (work oriented, childhood trauma and abandonment issues that neither of them worked through, implied that they both had a bit of a slutty phase, etc) and partially because their moral codes are the thing that differs the most.

which we knew to begin with; Taylor was introduced as someone who would exploit Bobby's acid trip about his dead family to get ahead in her career. that is a good enough reason not to like her and I personally think that Eddie had his reservations about her for that exact reason.

they both live for their jobs, but Taylor is in it for the chase, the excitement, the recognition; Buck is in it because being a hero and helping people is his life. very stark difference.

Buck also jumped the gun with the moving, right after doing something that you don't normally do when you feel like taking the relationship to the next level. so he kinda put a strain on the relationship even though it seemed otherwise at the time.

then of course Taylor lied to him about working on the story, though she only broke it after they caught Jonah, so people saying that she endangered Hen and Chim are weird, unless they're implying that she followed them and didn't call 911? which would be a choice...

but back to fandom's reception of her and how you don't like her with Buck. you don't have to like her at all tbh, not every character or dynamic will be likable to everyone and that's fine, it's only an issue when people spend their time on hating a fictional character instead of focusing on the ones they like and when they send hate to the actors portraying them... which is something that as far as I'm aware happened to every single actress/actor who played a love interest to Buck or Eddie on the show.

this fandom hates women in general, just look at how most people talk about Shannon, Maddie, Abby, Ana, Taylor, Natalia, Marisol... like. characters are flawed that's why they're interesting, but hating them for having to make decisions in difficult situations? or for literally nothing but dating one of the guys as is the case of Ana and Marisol (though Marisol's actress is a vile human being and her character has a seemingly weird bond with her brother, so there is that).

I'd argue that Taylor is the most hated female character on the show and I regularly see posts that feature her with tags like "taylor kelly jumpscare" and such which I just find excessive...

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