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chaoticgoodthief · 6 months ago
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Slay The Princess Roles Reversal Idea
Ok, it seems like my stupid ideas for this STP brainrot of mine actually keep getting popular for some reason so here we go.
Imagine this: It's at the end of the road, you're in the Stranger's cabin at the heart of the Shifting Mound, pristine blade in hand. At this point, you've become aware that there is no good ending. You steel your nerve and prepare to plunge the weapon into her heart for the final time ...But you never get to make it that far.
Voice of the Contrarian: ...I'm sorry. I can't let you do this.
Chains are wrapping around you. You can feel yourself shattering, fragments of yourself unravelling from your essence in a sensation that feels completely foreign and yet all too familiar. Everything goes dark, and you forget yourself.
Someone wakes up in a locked cabin, at the top of the stairs. It's not you. Instead, it is a beautiful maiden, tasked with slaying the beast in the basement. If she doesn't, then she will die. Or at least, that is what the Shadow keeps telling her.
I like to think that Contrarian would actually be quite convincing in this role. He is, after all, doing this for the Princess' own good. Moreover, he will be right. If she doesn't you, you will kill her. Very, very few routes end up with both of you surviving. And even those routes need at least one of you to die first.
I haven't really thought this through very well on how it would actually work, but it would be super interesting.
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franklinfinley · 4 months ago
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Hey! I'm Franklin, he/they. First year student at Naranja Academy, but I've been through several Gym Circuts for 7 years at this point. The Treasure Hunt is well underway, and things are looking great! I'm a ghost and fire type specialist, as well as a general Drowzee/Hypno specialist LOL
MY CURRENT TEAM:
Koraidon: a strange form of Cyclizar given to me by my friend Arven, originally owned by his mother Professor Sada. He prefers not to battle, but he will if he needs to. He maily loves acting as a riding mount and food-stealer >:P
Lullay: my service Hypno and first partner Pokemon. We've been a duo for 14 years now! She doesn't primarily battle, she mostly helps with my anxiety and insomnia. She steps up for defense if we need it, though.
Tabasco: my Skeledirge and chosen starter for Naranja Academy! He's a little scrapper and eager to prove himself in a fight, and just as eager to sit back, sing his little songs, and eat all my oranges. Little orange heathen even as he grows up
Sparky: my Luxray! He's a bundle of energy and a reckless battler. He loves nothing more than getting to flaunt his stuff and also wail and cry and flail his fists on the ground when he loses
Sushi: my Curly Tatsugiri, and an odd quiet fellow. He likes splashing water on the other teammates for funny pranks and curling up in my collar or hair. That being said, he is a FIERCE battler. Honestly kinda scary with what he can pull off from such a tiny body...
Arthur: my Beartic! He's very polite with me and the team, but fierce when it comes to defense. It takes a while for him to warm up to new people, but those he warms up to he holds close.
Strawberry Lemonade: my shiny Amped-Up Toxtricity, who i rescued from the wild as a Shadow variant. She's clingy and packs a MEGA punch, and cocky with her skills as a battler. Now that she's come out of her shell, her punk rock personality really shines through.
Montez: my Garchomp, and just what you'd expect from such a feared creature. She's the meanest of the group and always first to volunteer for a fight. She swings hard and fights with pure power. Now that she's calmed, she's the perfect guard 'mon.
Things at Naranja are going great! My friend Nemona has shown me all the ropes, and I feel like I'm gonna have a good few years here. This might just be my Yelling About Things blog. So if you're into that thing feel free to tag along!
[OOC UNDER CUT]
Heallo this is the in character blog i have for my self insert!! I follow from my main @yatgb
Be prepared for Main Character And Mary Sue Shenanigans, and dont be afraid to ask abt stuff he mentions in posts!! I plan to have this going as a whole thing with arcs and all that, basically going through all of scarvi's plot, including DLC down the line. This WAS gonna be an art-based askblog but i dont rlly have the time for one of those :( but ill be posting story snippets later down the lind!
Pelipper Mail is on as long as its something small, he wont accept like new pokemon or money or anything. Think like what youd get from a mystery gift :D Magic Anons are off!
Also, dont take everything Franklin says at face-value. He's got a loong history, and some secrets to hide. There's a chance he could be lying about some stuff ',:) expect a well meaning but unreliable narrator
That being said, I like to do my own worldbuilding so whenever he goes into biology details dont look too hard into it. We're havin fun here. I also don't plan on doing any multiverse shenanigans. This is a self contained story about an oc thats very dear to me :D so just go with the flow. I might interact with other blogs as long as its feasible they could on Rotomblr connected through a multiverse.
Other character interaction is encouraged, as well has sentient pokemon except Legendaries! He has his own lore with a lot of legends it would be a little wack
Here's what he looks like! With Lullay!
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nocturnes-hideout · 1 year ago
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Trans Gravity Falls Thoughts
I have so many trans Gravity Falls thoughts.
I don’t headcanon the Stan twins as being trans men, but I do like the headcanon because it means that they named themselves Stanley and Stanford. And that when they were telling Dipper and Mabel their life story, they both, either independently or with some twinpathy, decided to tell the story as if everyone knew they were boys growing up.
I really like the idea that Dipper is a trans boy and Mabel is a trans girl and they’re both going stealth while in Gravity Falls, and even Grunkle Stan doesn’t know. But Stan was there for their birth, how could he not know? Well you see, Dipper and Mabel swapped names. Mabel was born Mason and Dipper was born Mabel, and they just swapped their legal names (with Dipper mostly going by the nickname Dipper). Grunkle Stan was never told any of this and he just assumes he misremembered which twin was a bookish nerd with a birthmark and which twin liked everything colorful and sparkly and he was too embarrassed by this that he never asked any clarifying questions. It eventually becomes clear to Dipper and Mabel that Grunkle Stan genuinely doesn’t know and they decide not to tell him because he’s old and might not be supportive of that. He eventually does find out because Shenanigans (TM) and Dipper and Mabel tell the very confused Stan that they’re trans. There’s a tense moment where Stan processes this information and Dipper and Mabel are scared he’s going to say something awful. But then Stan just exclaims “So I didn’t misremember who had the birthmark!”. Dipper and Mabel ask for clarification, and Stan explains what I said above and also that he’s fully supportive of them. (And also he apologizes to Dipper for calling him unmanly earlier in the summer because he didn’t know he was trans.)
I also like the idea that the Stan twins are both nonbinary but have the strangest ways of explaining/justifying it. At some point after finding out Dipper and Mabel are trans, he offhandedly mentions that he doesn’t have a gender. When asked for clarification, he says that gender is a scam (to sell more bathrooms and clothes) and so he doesn’t have one. (I also saw this one really funny post here on Tumblr that I can’t find where some transphobe comes up to an openly nonbinary Stan and says gets angry at him for telling kids he doesn’t have a gender, and Stan says that he doesn’t have a gender, he lost it and he needs money to buy a new one, oh please, sir, could you spare some money for a poor old man in need of a gender? and he scams the transphobe. ) And he says all this to Dipper and Mabel and they’re thinking that this is the weirdest explanation/justification for being nonbinary, and they briefly wonder whether he actually is or if he’s just misunderstanding what nonbinary is. He isn’t, he is actually nonbinary although that was not the word he used for himself, Dipper and Mabel taught it to him. (He is slightly wrong about his gender though, because he’s not actually agender, he just doesn’t know that you can have a gender that isn’t man or woman, so he thinks he just doesn’t have a gender.)
And Dipper and Mabel think this is the weirdest explanation for why someone is nonbinary, until they meet Ford. Ford says that he doesn’t have a gender because while in the multiverse, it got stolen by a gender thief and he wasn’t able to get it back and decided getting another one was too much trouble. Dipper and Mabel have no idea if this is some sort of joke or a misunderstanding on Ford’s part (that he was always agender and he just didn’t realize until the gender thief incident) or if this is actually what happened. They decide not to question either of their Grunkles because they know that gender can be weird and these are two very strange old men*.
*They would probably describe themselves as old men, but also be aware that the word “man” isn’t quite accurate. They use it anyway.
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lorata · 2 years ago
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I think all the third-in-the-golden-trio victors need to have a club. I can't remember how many of them there are, I was just reading the one about Tristan you reblogged, so there's him, and my Knox, and I can't remember if there is anyone else.
Perhaps amongst the multiverse there could be a club, or even a center-age version, since they're all around a similar age so could have met in the center. Which one is the victor really depends on who is chosen as volunteer on which year, and what arenas there are to match their skills or not. A center age club or hangout would be real funny tho - at this point, they'd all be possibles, not victors, and that shoots them right back down to regular trainee level, which I find kinda funny because in my head I kinda view the older victors as old and stately, and then you go, nah, they were kids too, werent they.
If there is any of them that were in the same year I mean it's gonna get a bit more toxic possibly, but Tristan was 36 and Knox was 35, so you already have more possibility for inter-year friendship, since they wouldn't be competing for the same place. Idk, just feels like a fun concept
I am all for multiverse shenanigans!
(I do this myself all the time, mainly so unofficial-mentor!Claudius can be super confused by the AUs where he and Selene are together)
I do agree that the one of the most fun things about playing in that era is putting the older / more venerated victors back to the time when they were dumb kids doing dumb kid things, even the ones who sort of had Grown Men vibes even as four-year-olds
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autumnslance · 1 year ago
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This is a very silly ask (and feel free to ignore it completely), but do you think any of your OCs would be friends with characters from other franchises? (Fun fact, this was inspired by a piece of fanart that made me believe that Thancred and Leon Kennedy of Resident Evil fame would absolutely be friends. Or at least drinking buddies.)
Hrm, I don't often think in terms of crossovers and mashups anymore--which is funny, as one of my earliest online RP experiences was a multiverse setting where OCs from any and all settings--franchise, gaming, original, etc--could co-exist. Normal mortals teaming up with demigods from novel series and mega-damage users from RIFTS and an array of fantasy and sci-fi and horror characters in between.
I sometimes think about how my OCs in various settings would interact together; how my WoW OCs would get along, or not, with the FF14 crew, or the FF14 OCs with my D&D characters. I tend to lean into certain archetypes (bards and paladins/clerics/priests are favorites), so there'd be some overlap and things in common, and also some frustrations at similarities that grate and clash.
So I don't think too much about how they'd interact with canon figures from other settings, but any OCs I'd have in that realm instead.
Well, the adventuring parties of Actual Play shows like Critical Role (and its animated series spinoffs) is pretty easy; Vox Machina, the Mighty Nein, and Bells Hells are all as chaotic and as helpful as adventurers tend to be, for good or bad. So there'd be eye rolling and irritation, but also understanding and diving in alongside, forming friendships with the weirdos cuz well, adventurers are Like That. They're RP characters too though so might be cheating, or at least easier to figure out for me.
Vax has that sort of noble rogue energy that'd make Aeryn fond of him, while Vex would initially drive her up a wall until they reached an understanding. Scanlan's annoy the heck out of her until they got to sit down and talk for real and she saw under the vulgar exterior. Percy'd be tolerated as Insufferable Noble Trying Too Hard. She'd be patient with Grog and enjoy his overlarge childish glee at everything. And who doesn't love Pike? Literal angel with a chaotic bent herself, she adds a bit of calm when not engaging in sibling shenanigans with Grog. I think Aeryn'd relate most to Keyleth, funnily, and they'd get along decently. Tary, too, would get a lot of sympathy concerning expectations, and also nerding around with his crafts, and may make dealing with Percy a tad easier.
Of the Nein, Caduceus is a spot of calm, aroace energy. Not as right as he thinks he is about many things, but he means well and tries, and that counts for a lot. Aeryn'd have tea with him any day. She'd also be drawn to Beau's bravado and brashness and they'd get into trouble together. Same with Fjord and Caleb, really; there's a level of familiarity in how they approach things with 'let's poke it and see what happens' but also the care they have for others in general. Same with Yasha. Jester's a bright light ball of energy and oh gods her and C'oretta in the same space would be exhausting. Nott/Veth is a bit more complicated; probably depends on when in the campaign, is it before or after Veth's reunited with her family, as she undergoes a shift emotionally once she has her original self back as well as her husband and son. Molly would aggravate and charm Aeryn by turns; Kingsley she'd be sympathetic to and understand too well that living in another's shadow aspect. Essek is fine; he's a wizard to talk shop with, learn from, mess around with spellwork. Luc is a brat also in the shadow of his accomplished mom and adventuring family, and needs mentoring and guidance and a lot of patience oh gosh.
A lot of the Hells would honestly be irritating, especially Imogen's propensity to just use telepathy intrusively; girl needs a lesson in why you don't want to poke around uninvited or casually to get your answers, and a WoL's head is wilder than most. FCG needs mentoring and guidance like whoa. Fearne's also an agent of energetic chaos; fun in doses. Laudna's not so scary, very sweet and fun and sad and likely needs help she doesn't know how to ask for. Ashton's grating in his arrogance and rebelliousness for rebellion's sake (though that may shift given recent things...). Chetney's surface attitude would be annoying, but soon enough he'd be a safe and calming point, given his perceptions. Orym's also just calming and reasonable; maybe a little too much sometimes, and needs to be reminded to cut loose now and then, it's good for you (and your friends).
Dark rolls with it all; she's very easy to get along with. Iyna wouldn't be able to stand most of them. C'oretta would get along well with most everyone but lord her and Jester and/or Fearne in the same place...Terrifying!
That's one off the top of my head, after a long holiday weekend thinking about it off and on, anyway!
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walnutcookie · 2 years ago
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hey maybe you could talk a bit about Hom!Earl gray please
what a silly guy !
okay so . originally he was just a Regular Guy (in most aus). then over time in the web of the multiverse a few of the universes had gotten tangled together and timekeeper had to fix that ! exactly 222 different earl greys from different universes walked into the grandmaster hotel at the same time aaaand... all of those earl greys, all of those hotels, are mashed into one. the hotel is in another dimension now, one outside of any universe, and is practically a gateway to those 222 universes included in the incident
the hotel just looks like . Madness. hence the name hotel of madness. nothing makes sense, objects are floating in mid air, stairs are invisible and lead to nowhere, the hotel room doors are fucked up and now lead to the different universes instead of hotel rooms
and earl grey ? hes a weird mixture of all the people he used to be. his body has been warped to the point where he hardly looks the same anymore. he glitches and flickers into his other appearances but if youd like to see a comparison
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hes silly and quirky now . hes got memories from two hundred different lives and hes also forgotten a lot of things/gets confused with his memories. Its funny hes so confused by his gender because he has the same thoughts and feelings from all those universes like girl he cant tell if hes homosexual or homophobic!!! he hates all pronouns but also loves using all of them but also he prefers she/her but also he uses neos and you get the point . Conflicted. he just uses he/him because he does not know what to do about it. hes not aroace but also he is yeah its basically the thing but He doesnt really do romantic relationships because theyre too confusing to him
hes also like 7 feet tall which is fun ! hes an actual god in the hotel, like he can change his form and the hotels form He could literally turn the hotel into disneyland if he wanted . but he cant change the doors in any way. theres no getting rid of them
he has 182739374935 traumatic memories girl hes not ok!!!! he probably cant tell if his nightmaares are just dreams or a memory
at first all of the memories were seeping in slowly but then timekeeper thought it would be silly to have it all happen at once. Guy with migraine
anyways she threatens him so nicely and hes basically forced to watch over this hotel since its a gateway for the multiverse now and it would be easy for someone to fuck with the multiverse and she doesnt feel like checking this thing constantly and earl is already exposed to it So!!!!!
hes forced to check up on the hotel all thw time <3 hes decided on once a month is good enough so he just . Checks on every door which takes like 2 days and just makes sure all his precautions are in place. Each door leads to a supply closet in the universe (in the grandmaster hotel) and anyone can walk through it so he has ro make sure its protected
he spends his free time in the sugary shenanigans universe (one of my aus) because thats where hes happiest,, when he walks through a universe's door he takes rhe original form of what he looked like before he became. Hotel of madnessed. he doesnt tell his siblings (roguefort and eclair) about it because they wouldnt believe him but he DID have permission from tk to introduce the chess choco twins from the sugary shenanigans au to the hotel :) nobody knows much abt the situation (not even timekeeper) so like they assumed once earl dies theyd need someone new to look after the hotel. and the chess twins are already very silly they saw rhe hotel and earls true form and went Wow dad this is so cool! :)
that was a LOT hzbd and theres still a lot i didnt say about him but . this is getting long so ill cut it short here ! :]
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shenyaanigans · 2 years ago
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10 films i love
ty for the tag, @aerogadyne !!!!
Promare. so not to be cringe and make this my number one, but i just. absolutely adore everything about promare: it's funny, the art style is really fun, JYB and Billie Kametz (rest in peace) are there. i think the way it makes very clear, and remains quite adamant, that it is a visual story first and foremost is really fun. I LOVE the opening section, i actually think from a storytelling perspective it's so fascinatingly well done. you can see how it was inspired by the F&F series, how sure, there's a ton of pyrotechnics and shit that's there just to look cool, but there is a genuine heart underneath it that's really sweet and propels the story every single time i watch it. galo and lio are also just. such great protagonists. i adore them both so so much, great watch, 10/10
Everything, Everywhere, All At Once. One of my favorite live action films, this movie really speaks to me. I adore multiverse travel and I've toyed around with the idea of being able to exist in many universes all at once for a story, but I honestly wasn't sure it could be done. Seeing it done on screen so beautifully, so masterfully, and so coherently was just. Mwah. the symbolism was beautiful, the characters were so funny, and the tale of intergenerational wounds (what we inflict on our children is often a different version of what was inflicted on us) is poignant and thoughtfully portrayed and just. yeah. from what i understand, michelle yeoh really took this film over the top with her performance and notes to the directors, and i love how collaborative the space was. here's hoping it gets the recognition it deserves.
Looper. This movie fucks. this movie is everything i want in a sci-fi thriller, because it has so much soul. the way the movie really puts to task the idea of the masculine hero. there's a scene in this movie that just lives with me forever, because it's a scene that feels like it would belong in a gritty realistic action film, and yet it is so so sad. there's no cool music, there isn't a good reason for what happens other than it's procedure, and it physically hurts to watch. on top of that emily blunt is there and i am in love with her.
Knives Out/Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery. i'm putting them together not because they're the same film but because they scratch an itch of fun storytelling within a tried and true genre. i am so compelled by stories that have such eye for detail, and i've always been particularly interested in mystery stories. i also am obsessed with the camera technique they used for Knives Out. it's beautiful and i love it so so much.
The Truman Show. also a really really cool movie, i'm obsessed with the way this semi-predicted the sensationalization of people's lives, and the parasocial relationships we now have with people we feel like we "know". moreover, i rly rly like the commentary on art and the idea of caricaturing the self and how that ultimately makes the world around you a caricature, too.
The Adjustment Bureau. one of the first movies i ever really really loved, because i was super obsessed with the idea of trying to go against forces larger than you to be with the person you love (for some strange reason. who knows what that could be. 🌈) i got so interested in how this movie worked, i watched it over and over for years, until i could quote it by rote, and then i read the screenplay because i was desperate to know how it worked. i wouldn't say this is the best movie in the world; far from it. it has this beautiful, interesting premise, but it doesn't take any risks: david and elise are a straight cis white couple with no real barriers other than unforeseen hands saying that they can't. i think there's so much potential here, though, and it's the thing that i was so interested in for so so so long.
Your Name (Kimi no Namae Wa). not to be basic but this movie made me cry a lot. i'm such a sucker for body swap shenanigans in general, on top of time travel, but i rly rly rly liked the idea of two people connecting in spite of space and time and everything to do their damndest to save each other and everyone they loved. just because they cared. i always found that to be so powerful and meaningful.
The Invitation. this is a movie i have mixed feelings about because it was an interesting film and had a lot of really lovely motifs regarding grief, but it was also a film i watched with someone who is no longer in my life. but the music in it is really melancholic and beautiful, and i rly do think it's such a massively good take on how grief is powerful to eat up not just you, but everyone around you, too.
Gone Girl. brooooo this movie was so so so good, i loved it so much, although the first time i saw it i was not a fan because i was sixteen and i had to watch the cunnilingus scene with my dad right next to me. but the second time i watched it i was alone and also 22 and so it was rly good. i just love the bait and switch. i love the evil woman. i love everything about it. fantastic.
probably does not count but the Sense8 movie was bananas and cool and beautiful and i am so sad that show did not get the five seasons it deserved, it was a really, REALLY good idea. it fucked some stuff up, but this show was so queer and unapologetic about it, and i enjoyed just how much of the show was driven by love. i rly rly did.
anyways sorry this is long and full of my rambles, but even doing this list has put into perspective just how much of the same stuff i like LOL. anywho!!! i figure i'll tag... @caffernnn, @suhmayzooka, @relationshipcrimes, @futuresoon, @kavehandtea, @honeydots, @cawfka, @floodedlungs and anyone else who might be interested!! have fun, i want to see your favorite movies if you're up for sharing <3
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mediums-georg · 6 months ago
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Dear Podficcer letter 2024 (for @summerpodficswap)
Dear Podficcer:
Thanks for considering recording something for me! I am so excited.
Some general notes: I prefer podfics with simple soundscaping and quiet music, so it’s easy to hear the person speaking. My hearing is not known for being good, unfortunately.
I am okay with any rating and category. If the fic is NSFW, I would prefer it to be F/F, M/M, or Other. However, if it’s M/F and really funny, I’ll allow it. (Hopefully this goes without saying, but please don’t record an NSFW fic for me if you’re younger than 18).
When it comes to writing/recording fics, my preferences are generally the same as listed here, except I am not comfortable creating NSFW works.
Without further ado, here are my current fandoms! Currently The Stanley Parable is the main fandom that lives in my head rent free, but I have several others as well.
Main Fandoms:
Welcome to Night Vale
the Magnus Archives/Protocol
Hello from the Hallowoods
The Stanley Parable
Secondary Fandoms:
Starkid
The Mistholme Museum of Mystery, Morbidity, and Mortality
She-ra
Meow Wolf
Favorite genres:
Comedy
Sci-Fi
Fantasy
Horror
Tags and Tropes I enjoy:
Crack/crack treated seriously
Crossovers
Social media AU
Post-Canon
angst with a happy ending
identity shenanigans
Genderbending
F/F ships
Filk
Autistic characters/disabled characters in general
Unreality
multiverses
4th wall breaking/meta
Fics formatted like an episode of the podcast they’re from
Outsider POV
fics that will make you cry but are also comforting
fics where the main characters slowly realizes they’re living in a dream/simulation
Do Not Want:
Non-con or Underage archive warnings
Incest or pedophilia
RPF
Character X Reader (unless it’s funny and/or it gets meta)
And now, time for my fandom-related preferences!
Welcome to Night Vale:
Cecil/Carlos
Michelle/Maureen
The Magnus Archives:
Fix-it fics
Post-canon, especially if it’s a crossover
Jon/Martin
Melanie/Georgie
Hello from the Hallowoods:
Angst
Nikignik 
Riot/Olivier
Hector/Jonah
Percy/Diggory
Violet/Bern
Yaretzi/The Countess
Polly & Yaretzi & Mort
The Stanley Parable:
Stanley/Narrator
Timekeeper | The Settings Person 
4th wall breaking fics
Hatchetfield:
Paul/Emma
Steph/Pete
Grace Chastity
The Lords in Black
I still haven’t watched Nightmare Time 2 and the last episode of Nightmare Time 1, so please don’t spoil them!
Post-canon - specifically if you have a fic set right after Nerdy Prudes Must Die, I so want to hear it.
She-Ra:
Catra/Adora
Entrapta/Hordak
Entrapta/Darla
Post-canon
I’m not too fond of the headcanon that Entrapta is asexual and not interested in sex (although I could see her as a sex favorable ace)
Thanks for reading! Feel free to check out my bookmarks to get some examples of fics that I like: https://archiveofourown.org/users/crackfics_georg/pseuds/crackfics_georg/bookmarks 
If you podfic one that’s tagged “inspiration” I would be very happy, but I’d also love the opportunity to hear a completely new fic. Podfics of my own fics are absolutely welcome as well!
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justanechoflower-ddlc · 10 months ago
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(We’re on the same page, then. Those were my thoughts as well, and were the reason why I didn’t feel like being THAT mean to the bunch. The revelation will come when it’s time and it’s actually prepared for. Well, if it happens at all, that is. For now, it’s more trouble than it’s worth, and I also would rather not have to work out how to solve it. Working out a plausible meaning for Yuri’s poem was tricky enough… And besides, chances are, if it DID slip right now, as tempting as that idea sounds, Monika might figure it’s a better idea to restart the game… and I’m not planning on forcing a game restart right now. While thankfully for them, no punitive action could be taken against them for any of that (I don’t believe the law accounts for actions done in other timelines, and even if it did, good look to anyone who wants to make a case!) there are other ways it could destroy the club regardless due to animosity.)
(It is funny though how there’s a way that what Flowey said about the club eventually becoming all-powerful did kind of already happen… even if Monika isn’t currently keen on really using it that much. As for Sayori? I’d say she’s more likely to, as long as it’s in a way that wouldn’t get people noticing something wrong, and it doesn’t hurt anyone… Not really much plans, though. Just when she feels like it and it doesn’t risk anything.)
(I was actually tempted to have Sayori be a bit more of an airhead with it and have Monika be the one holding that back and making sure Sayori’s shenanigans with the console didn’t accidentally result in the truth getting out, but that’d just raise the question of why disaster didn’t strike during the several months Monika was in the void after the game ended, or, if answered with “Monika stepped in then as well”, we’d to ask how far Monika drew the line on her interfering herself while also wanting nothing to do with the club… There’s certainly an alternate universe out there with a set-up like this though, just with a much smaller amount of time with Monika in the void. Right next to those few where the player came back and installed a mod. But I might as well get back to the plot, because now is not the time to explore the multiverse!)
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Yuri:Well, exactly. That’s part of what can make artistic works so fascinating… there can often be a wide range of interpretations that work perfectly with the work itself, and, as a result, a wide range of meaning to be found, depending on what lens you look at them through.
>#Yep, that’s right! I’m sure we can work that out, though. It might be harder to convince Monika that we should reveal anything at all than it is to actually work out the best way! But we can talk more on the best way to tell everyone after the current club meeting ends, which is really soon! We’re actually about to wrap things up! 
Sayori:Oh, right! That’ll be awesome when you get rich the club and make us rich too! It’ll be so great!
Yuri:Hm, while the business venture Buttercup mentions would rake in some money, I don’t see anyone getting rich off of it… 
Monika:Probably not that specifically… But perhaps he’ll find some way… Sometimes he does incredibly well at things… and while sometimes not, it’s not like he only has one chance…
Monika:I’d say we should just wait and see whether his claims actually come true or not, and prepare for both possibilities.
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(And when one misreading ends, another begins! And Monika doesn’t even know about it because she can’t read game text anymore without the GUI!)
(When will they work out Flowey missed the fact “get rich” was in quotes, and Monika just meant Flowey needed a believable story so he’ll be able to say he got rich like he said he would, so nobody questions where the gold he got came from? The reason Monika alluded to on why she didn’t spawn gold herself when it’s trivial is because she can’t exactly believably get rich and buy gold since she’s supposedly busy much of the time, and if she bought some gold somewhere near, she should’ve been seen! And what business work could she have done to make all that money… with zero witnesses? With no believable story, that gold would be an anomaly. That’s why she never spawned in gold or diamonds herself! Because what story could she possibly tell to explain where it came from that couldn’t easily just get disproven, or at least look awfully suspicious? People might suspect it was stolen…)
(Well, at least that’s what Monika thinks is the reason why she never spawned gold with the console, and it’s definitely A reason. It’s possible that this is also compounded by her aversion to messing with the game at all… Things didn’t go well the first time after all, and while THIS kind of missing with the game actually would be harmless if it isn’t noticed, as she’s not messing around with character files, that doesn’t mean there wouldn’t be an (irrational?) aversion regardless.)
(Buttercup’s supposedly visiting from somewhere else, though! It’d make perfect sense for him to get rich without anyone that goes to this school witnessing it, he’d be doing it in wherever he’s supposed to be from! Well, at least as much sense at it makes for him to get rich… at all… but maybe they can give a plausible story?)
(My guess on when this misreading gets cleared up is right when Flowey actually starts setting up his business. And probably fails at getting rich because while lemonade stands can make some money, they certainly won’t make you rich! We’ll see how accurate that guess is in due time…)
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(Flowey knows what Monika meant, don't worry! He's coming up with some example of how he'd get money, and although his example isn't the best, it's something. That's also why he's insisting Natsuki set up her concession stand somewhere else. Not only to "make sure people in different areas will be able to find an opportunity to buy," but to make sure Natsuki won't be able to see that selling treats and lemonade isn't actually his plan. He's trying to "plan" as much a possible anyway to make his excuse seem realistic even if it's a fake plan so he can cash in some gold from the underground without suspicion and seem that he's just really good at sales. Obviously not on the impossible scale though.)
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knightmareaceblue · 3 years ago
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What would Polythreat be like in the other times like Toppat King, Master Bounty Hunter, and Stickmin Space Resort. Just wanted to see how Polythreat would look like other timelines.
TK: Maybe Charles got capture during the rocket launch and become a Toppat's prisoner. Henry and Ellie would visit him and get to know each other.
MBH: Henry and Charles want to the Wall to arrest Dmitri. While there, they meet and free Ellie who decide to help take down Dmitri.
How would you think Polythreat would work in other timelines.
Polythreat: Enter the Multiverse. There was no reason to write that, it just entered my mind and I thought it was funny.
I'll share some ideas I've had, but forgive me for skimping on details... just in case I want to write one of these stories someday.
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Plot ideas below the cut
SSR: After finding Ellie being unethically interrogated in a government base, Charles frees her and the two go on the run. They spend a year on the run, get together as a couple, and through a series of shenanigans end up stowing away on a shuttle up to Stickmin Space Resort. Henry offers them sanctuary in exchange for employment, partially out of sympathy but mostly because he's really freakin' bored, and this is the most exciting thing to happen since he'd stolen the Toppats rocket.
So Ellie works as security while Charles drives a spaceship and helps with guided tours. Henry, curious about their story because they've only told bits and pieces and he's actually a drama loving weirdo, spends a lot of time with the both of them and eventually catches feelings. Romcom shenanigans ensue as Charles and Ellie both develop a crush on him and agree to pursue him together, while Henry wonders what the heck these brand-new feelings are all about. Also goverment related drama as they try to get Ellie and Charles back. And maybe the Toppats cause trouble too? Haven't decided yet.
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JB: Enemies to friends to lovers GOLD. I know TCW may reek of this more, but I have a blatent bias for PBT routes, and also there's too much comedy to get out of TCW for me to take it seriously in any context.
Anyways, so after Henry betrays Ellie and steals the Norwegian Emerald while screwing over the Toppats, Ellie hears about it and breaks out on her own. She then finds Henry and the two of them become bitter rivals in thievery. Galeforce, unfortunately, took the fall for the chaos they caused and Charles takes stopping them as a personal mission. Thief vs detective type shenanigans ensue as the three constantly sabotage each other. Henry treats it all like a huge game, Ellie is seething with rage, and Charles very quickly gets fed up with their shenanigans.
Things come to a head when a trap gone wrong leads to the three of them crashing Charles' helicopter on a mountain. They agree to work together to get back to civilization. Nobody is happy with this. As they make the journey down, they reluctantly begin to understand each other. They've each got mental issues from the events of THSC, and this leads to mutual respect by the time they get back to the city. It develops into a less toxic rivalry, which develops into Henry and Ellie occasionally making things easier on Charles. At some point Henry apologies to Ellie. I don't have all the details yet. But I do know exactly how it ends.
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TR: Unfortunately, it would take some pretty extreme trauma to push someone like Charles to join the Toppat Clan. And extreme trauma is exactly what happened. Unfortunately, this is actually something I have in progress, so I can't elaborate too much more. But I will say this: Henry and Ellie are surprised and annoyed to be put on Governemnt Lapdog babysitting duty, but slowly come to care about him as he continually risks his life for theirs and endears himself to them. Ellie falls first, interestingly enough, though Charles is initially more interested in Henry. It's not... quite a love triangle, though. He just has a reason to believe he can trust Henry more than Ellie. The three of them eventually find common ground though, as Henry and Ellie comfort Charles as he tells them why he joined the clan.
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CG: After reliveing the Toppat Clan of all their riches (and also killing their Chief), Henry and Ellie became a duo of vigilante heroes. They work outside the law to bring justice, with Galeforce a secret government contact leaking info to them to help them out. Charles isn't too keen on their brand of justice at first but finds that they've actually helped a lot of people. The place where they set up HQ knew they were performing criminal acts, he discovers, but didn't turn them in because they liked and trusted the two more than the police.
It's a lot of moral introspection for Charles, with him slowly coming to the side of 'protecting the innocent is more important than following the law'. This culminates in him rescuing Ellie and Henry from a government-sanctioned assassination attempt, where they bombed the heck out of their hideout, and officially joins their vigilante group. Ellie and Henry both come to like him, but keep their distance to avoid scaring him and upsetting each other... so CHARLES has to make the first move. I'm sure you can imagine how that went.
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And that's all I have for you right now! It's fun to come up with these sorts of alternate scenarios, isn't it? Maybe I'll write these, maybe I won't. But it was fun.
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thewertsearch · 2 years ago
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Asks Compilation 09/06
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God, I really should, shouldn’t I? I’ve heard only good things about it, and obviously I love alt-self shenanigans. I might go in a week or two - it’s been way too long since I took a trip to the cinema.
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Yeah!!! Welcome to the party! It’s a good time for you to catch up, since I’m pausing for a week or so before I start Act 5. (I’ll probably start it late next week, but that’s subject to change!)
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Illuminating, eh? *Adds 5 points to the Light Player column of my notepad*
Never too late to analyze something you love! And doing a close reading of something you’ve read before sometimes works even better, because you know exactly how things are going to pay off. You can see all the foreshadowing you missed!
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The obvious answer is Dave and Bro, but I think the most likely Player to do the tbh stare is actually AT.
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I think he stared at his computer exactly like this when Dave rapped him into oblivion. 
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Totally missed it. We don’t learn muck Mark Twain Lore here, but it seems that in the universe of Homestuck, he lived a double life...
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Who knew not having a schedule to speak of would ever be a positive? My old manager clearly didn’t know what he was talking about. 
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It really does keep happening. I’ve already made an OC, and it’s a good thing I don’t write fanfic, because otherwise I’d be fending the writing impulses off with a stick. 
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[ it goes around a lot as a rumor. I think people get confused because the team put effort into making it canon compliant - and it also uses an official (unused) HS song. 99% sure Hussie never said anything about it tho... - Cat ] 
Ah, I see. Still, it definitely sounds like a fan project worth checking out! 
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Honestly, my excitement is immeasurable. SAHLEE is evolving...
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Been a while since I watched any new ones, but yeah, I’m a huge anime fan! I actually re-watched Mob Psycho 100 last week in preparation for the new season. The final two arcs of the manga are fantastic, and I, for one, cannot wait. 
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I watched Your Name a couple of weeks ago, and I’d definitely recommend that. It’s gorgeous, and the story goes to some places that I didn’t expect it to, going in. 
I could talk a lot about the movies I like - and I will, if people are interested - but it’d take a while to gather my thoughts. Like I said before, it’s hard for me to pick out favorites. 
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They’re completely unnecessary - but then again, so are their glasses and headbands. It is my intuition that Sburb wouldn’t make it so easy for Players to realize that they weren’t born naturally, since they’re supposed to learn about their destiny themselves. I think they probably have bellybuttons. 
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All I’m getting from it is that Life does not equal Doom, which I’m sure is too obvious to be the right answer. In other words, this is just another intriguing hint about what’s up with Aspects. 
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Aw, fantastic, I’m happy you enjoyed!! Even learning some basic computer science reveals a whole new dimension to this comic. If you ever want any pointers, or links to resources to learn more, let me know!
That game’s a real standout among idle games. Last time I played, I’d just finished completing all the game’s Milestones, and I won’t spoil you on what happens next ;) 
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It’s funny how things work out. Weird chains of causality aren’t something that Homestuck has a monopoly on!
I have to wonder what Toby would be up to now without Homestuck’s influence. Would we have got radically different versions of Undertale/Deltarune?
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Definitely going to do it! I’m actually probably going to catch up on it in the next week or two, before Act 5. 
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...yeah, that tracks.
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The question of probability as it applies to Homestuck’s cosmology is kind of complicated. Sburb’s lore seems to treat things like the Paradox Clones as certain outcomes, with a probability of 1, even as its multiverse disproves this. 
This is the kind of thing I really want to see more of, going forward. Just what are the real rules here? 
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Universal translation is as good an explanation as any!
It would be kind of funny if, when the kids complete the game and exit the Incipisphere, all the trolls’ messages instantly turn into gibberish, because they never actually shared a language. 
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lmaoo considering how the trolls talk to these kids, especially in earlier conversations, I think it’s more likely they found a human disetiquette book! 
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My favorite is probably a more saturated version of my text color - something like this:
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I think you can probably get a pretty picture out of any color if you use it right, but I’ve never really been into muddy brown.
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I need you to know that I spent an hour earlier trying to edit Jack Noir into that Eggman scene I referenced earlier, so I could post it with this ask. I failed, but this ask succeeded in making me laugh my ass off. 
If anyone here hasn’t watched the Snapcube fandubs, I implore you - check this shit out. You won’t be sorry!
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She’s no man!
I actually like that more than the ‘8 looks like a snowman’ explanation that I came up with. That ‘quarters = 1/4′ thing is a good secondary pun, too. 
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This is a good point, regarding why Jade’s prototyping didn’t show up on Prospit’s iconography. Whatever comes out of Jade’s kernel, it will enter the Spire of a planet in ruins. There might not even be anyone to see it arrive. 
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gunterfan1992 · 4 years ago
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Episode Review: ‘Together Again’ (Distant Lands, Ep. 3)
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Airdate: May 20, 2021
Story by: Jack Pendarvis, Kate Tsang, Hanna K. Nyström, Christina Catucci, Jesse Moynihan, Adam Muto
Storyboarded by: Hanna K. Nyström, Anna Syvertsson, Iggy Craig, Maya Petersen, Serena Wu
Directed by: Miki Brewster (supervising), Sandra Lee (art)
Across Adventure Time’s ten season run, the show explored a bevy of “mature” themes and story ideas—topics, like love, sexuality, depression, and grieving. The show also touched upon death, but the emphasis was usually placed on the emotional toll of a loved one dying, not really what happens when you die. We knew there were Dead Worlds and Death. We knew that there was reincarnation. But how does it all fit together? What does it mean? How does it work?
With “Together Again,” we finally have many of the answers.
This special opens with a marvelous fake-out episode simply called “Finn & Jake,” that sees the two steal a magical cartoon of 50-flavor ice cream before rescuing Turtle Princess and LSP from the clutches of the villainous Ice King. This is all deliberately anachronistic and over the top. Ice King is back to his season one ways, Finn has both arms, and he is still wielding his golden sword that he lost in season two’s “The Real You.” There’s lolrandom dialogue and silly monsters; it’s like a parody of seasons 1-2. But then, this adventure starts to get all wonky, and in time Finn realizes that he is in a some sort of trance or illusion: one that ends with Jake being buried in the ground. Suddenly, Finn awakens from his reverie. He’s an old man. And he’s dead. We’re then presented with a new title card that lets us know the episode is actually called “Finn & Jake Are Dead.”
Holy Glob! They actually went there.
Turns out Jake died years before Finn, so naturally Finn is super excited to see his best bud. But something’s wrong—he cannot find Jake!! They planned to spend eternity together. But all that Finn can find is his very own psychopomp, Mr. Fox (voiced by Tom Herpich, whose purposefully stilted line readings are the epitome of delightful). Finn rightfully assumes that Jake is in a different Dead World, and so, being the ball of spunk and energy that he is, he demands to meet with Death, only to discover that there’s a New Death in town (voiced by Chris Fleming). The episode eventually explains that New Death was the son of Death and Life, and after New Death killed his father, he became the sovereign of the afterlife. New Death hates his job and decides to just blow up all the Dead Worlds so he doesn’t have to deal with it all. (I won’t get too much into the details here, because there would be a lot of story to parse out.)
Finn soon learns that Jake has reached nirvana in the 50th Dead World, where there is nothing but peace and serenity. Finn nevertheless tracks down Jake, pulls him from paradise, but in doing so, accidentally lets New Death in, who promptly obliterates Elysium, sending all the enlightened souls—including those from different levels of the afterlife—to the 1st Dead World. This gronks up the afterlife, temporarily halting the reincarnation process.
Well, Finn and Jake are rightfully ticked, and so they haunt the material plane looking for Princess Bubblegum. She’s not home (more on that later), but Peppermint Butler is! After Ghost Finn and Ghost Jake explain the situation, Peppermint Butler tells them what to do: They need to find Life and explain the situation. The duo manage just that, and Life is rightfully angry that her kid has stopped the transmigration of souls. After Life gives Finn a McGuffin sword that can hurt Death, Finn and Jake return to his abode. A brawl ensues wherein we learn that New Death has been possessed… by none other than that spirit of the Lich.
That’s right, it’s the Lich! He’s back, and boy is he evil.
The Lich explains that by possessing Death, he can destroy the afterlife, thereby destroying a key aspect of reality. Naturally, Finn and Jake are not cool with this, and they engage in combat. After Mr. Fox grabs the McGuffin sword and uses it to annihilate the Lich and New Death, he is proclaimed the New New Death and sets everything right. Finn is slated to be reincarnated, and Jake is slated to return to the 50th Dead World where he and Finn will one day be reunited. As Finn is pulled into the wheel of souls, Jake suddenly decides to go back with Finn, too, “Just for fun.” The episode ends with a card letting us know that the episode is neither called “Finn & Jake” nor “Finn & Jake Are Dead.” Instead, it is “Finn and Jake Are Together Again.”
As they say, “And there wasn’t a dry eye in the place.”
If you were to tell me several years ago that the last episode to star Finn and Jake would revolve around them dying, I think I would’ve been upset. Not simply sad, but rather frustrated because “they all died” can feel like a cheap ending. But with “Together Again,” it all works. And a large reason that it works is because the show goes all in with their ideas. Finn and Jake don’t magically leap back into their old life (no, no, they very much do bite the dust). Instead, the special emphasizes the cyclical nature of life through the transmigration of souls. The episode ends with a beautiful scene of Finn and Jake, bound together as soul-brothers, being reborn into a new, mysterious (possibly Ooo 1000+?) world. It’s both aesthetically and emotionally pleasing; it doesn’t feel off the way over finales might. This is right. This is the way life works. “Round and round as nature goes,” and all that jazz.
I loved the series explanation of how death works. It seems that souls land in a specific Dead World, where they ‘marinate’ for a bit, presumably being rewarded or punished based on their life in our meat reality. After a time, they are then reborn. This process repeats, with each soul reaching higher and higher levels of enlightenment until they hit nirvana, which is the 50th Dead World. So in a sense, Adventure Time has a roughly Buddhist cosmology with a dash of Greco-Roman mythos thrown in for flavor. (As to what happens after a soul stays in the 50th Dead World for a long period is anyone’s guess, but I’d speculate that when all the souls in the multiverse have been purified and land in the 50th Dead World, they will all collapse into one another and form one perfect Monad. Perhaps this is the sphere of perfection that the beings who merged into Matthew thought they were connecting to? Who knows! It’s anyone’s guess!) I was a little disappointed that we didn’t get to see who Death, Prismo, Life, etc.’s boss was, but perhaps that’s a mystery better left up to the imagination!
One minor thing that I loved about this special was the number of characters who made cameos as well as all the callbacks that were made to previous episodes. Regarding the former: Finn and Jake’s canine family show up (including the oft-forgotten Jermaine!), as do Tree Trunks and her myriad husbands. Tiffany plays a major role in all these shenanigans as a “death cop” of all things. There is a delightful rogues gallery stuck in the 1st Dead World (including, among others, Maja, Sharon from “The Gut Grinder,” and Wyatt). In the 50th we find Ghost Princess and Clarence happily at peace next to Booshy, the weird spirit mentioned in the Pen Ward classic “High Strangeness.” As far as callbacks go, perhaps my favorite is the clap (from “James Baxter the Horse”) that Jake taught to Finn in case they ever do get separated in the afterlife. And of course, there are myriad references made to “Death in Bloom,” the episode that planted the seed for what this would grow into.
Going into the special suspecting that it would involve Death, I was curious how they were going to handle Miguel Ferrer’s character. (In case a reader is not aware, Ferrer played Death in episodes like “Death in Bloom” and “Betty,” but he sadly passed away a few years ago). The producers’ choice to feature him in a non-speaking cameo—despite playing a relatively significant role in the story—was wise; I’m not sure if I can articulate the exact reasons, but something about his role felt appropriate and not gross, as some post-mortem memorials can be. Speaking of which, the wonderful, lovely Polly Lou Livingston was featured for the last time in this episode as Tree Trunks, happily in heaven with her literal harem of husbands. It was funny, it really was, and I’m sure that Polly Lou would’ve gotten a kick out of seeing it on screen. (Also, this is a pro-Tree Trunks safe space. Any Tree Trunks haters will be chucked into the 1st Dead World with Wyatt.)
The biggest mystery in this whole thing, for me at least, is the question of Princess Bubblegum and Marceline. Several years ago, I wrote an essay about what could’ve happened to them in the Ooo 1000+ universe. I speculated that they peaced out and left Ooo behind. In this special, neither Bubblegum nor Marceline are to be found in the Candy Kingdom—Peppermint Butler seems to be the one in charge, given that he is now wearing Bubblegum’s crown. Likewise, the duo aren’t anywhere in the Dead Worlds either. Maybe the two of them skipped town and got a duplex in the Nightosphere? Who knows… I just want my favorite gals to be OK!
All things considered, “Together Again” was a marvel: An episode that managed to feel like a series finale even more than “Come Along with Me” already did without taking away from the series itself. An episode that managed to make the idea of dying funny. An episode that brought back the Lich in a way that wasn’t forced. An episode that made Mr. Fox the New New Death. An episode that gave us a beautiful ending to Finn and Jake’s story… as well as the beautiful beginning to a new one. I said it on Twitter, and I’ll say it again here: “Together Again” was the end of a sentence in a book with infinite pages. Truly, the fun will never end.
Mushroom War evidence: Everything takes place in the Dead Worlds, so not really. Perhaps a more eagle-eyed viewer can inform us...
Final Grade: That’s right, I’m gonna do it...
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Post-script, I actually messaged Jesse Moynihan to ask about his writing credit. He told me that it was for an unused story idea that he had developed. I’m not certain, but I’ll bet it was a part of the cancelled TV movie they were trying to make during season 5, since that would’ve seen Finn and Orgalorg journey to the various Dead Worlds.
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I wanna hear about why you love Zonic so much
@stillafanofsonic @lunasilverpelt 1. He is cool as fuck okay /j Cut bc this is LONG
No but in all seriousness. I only JUST started liking him recently. I don't care much for his pre-reveal characterization or design, because he kinda just looked like a shitty megaman oc with some generic mumbo jumbo about protecting the multiverse or whatever. And I guess it was a pretty cool moment when he DID take his helmet off, but it kinda just missed the mark for me. Idk why it just did The writers mostly used him, along with Naugus, Mammoth Mogul, echidnas, and racism to give Sonic and the gang (mostly sonic) shit to do while Eggman was being set up. While the others were more serious villains, the zones Zonic took Sonic (OR THE READERS!!!) to were mostly just silly, one-off parody zones. After Eggman's return, Sonic had his hands full, and I assume Zonic and the zone cops did too. But while we're here, can we talk about the very CONCEPT of zones?? In the games, they were just areas to go in. Which is completely fine. But the inclusion of the special zone and the Zone of Silence in SatAM indicated that zones could also be seperate dimensions or realities. Sonic had a few fun times in zones before any Zonic shit was revealed, like in Super Sonic vs. Hyper Knuckles, when he met Anti Sonic, or in that trippy zone with Al and Cal or whoever the fuck. And it's either been established or was common knowledge that those zones are either parallel universes such as Moebius/The Anti Zone, or pocket dimensions, like the Special Zone or Zone of Silence. The "COSMIC INTERSTATE" was just a gateway to Anti Sonic, but the IDEA that those zones are connected somehow was set up. Funnily enough, Zonic didn't even THINK to rear his ugly head (affectionate) during the Giant-Borg Crisis, so the Sonics solved the problem on their own. Although later down the line, he'd say he knew about all that and partook in some shenanigans with the Sonic Underground crew. The Cosmic Interstate would later be expanded into the concept of the No Zone, a zone that runs perpendicular to all other parallel ones, thereby intersecting and connecting all of them. This leads to the fact that every inhabitant of this zone is dedicated to preserving the multiverse, a group known as the Zone Cops. These motherfuckers never even took their sorry asses outside of their zone, however, leaving Zonic to do all their dirty work for them. How rude. He was involved with a lot of other miscellaneous shit over the years, which isn't really important, but I'll give a quick overview. He arrested Evil Sonic who then escaped jail after beating him up but then was promptly put back in jail. Mammoth Mogul tried to destroy every zone ever because he's cringe, so Zonic and Sonic teamed up to create the monstrosity known as Titan Tails. And then Anti/Evil Sonic was a little bitch and turned into Scourge, caused some mayhem, and was then beaten up by Sonic, who called Zonic out on his bullcrap, because the Eggman they have is not from their zone. Zonic comes and takes away Scourge, and says some vague ass shit about how he's "needed for the stability of your zone" or some shit. Which is why a lot of people dislike him actually, rather than just calling him mid. However, and this is encroaching headcanon territory, I think there's just enough clues to interpret for yourself. Chaos energy is extremely important in both the games AND in the comics, although in a more subtle way. So when Zonic says there "HAS to be a Sonic and an Eggman," he most likely means how the perpetual conflict that takes place between Sonic and Eggman sustains the natural chaos affinity of that specific zone, and when things get TOO chaotic, that's when the Zone Cops step in. He also says how the Zone Cops are fighting against Eggman N. so need to do a little bit of some zonal social distancing. He then calls Scourge a fucking loser or something and peaces out. Then the funny little jailbreak happens, and then reboot. Boom. A lot of character things here, but I won't go too into detail because I can't. I'm too dumb. Sorry :(
But now we need to go into personality, and a lot of VERY interesting concepts relating to zones imo. Zonic's usual personality is, like @burningdepths said, a lot more serious and focused than Sonic, due to the responsibility he has. It's also interesting to note that he rarely uses his super speed, if EVER, or if he even has it at all. (I like to think he does, just because. Well. He's a fucking sonic.) Sonic's speed obviously representing his freedom, contrasts with how Zonic is not free and can not be free. He's bound to his duty by some inexplicable rule, which creates conflict with the character of Sonic- ANY Sonic. Which are two very important things. (Also important- he DOES have Sonic's attitude and personality, just buried down a lot. IT does surface very rarely though.)
Starting with contrast: I always believed that every alternate zone version of a character starts the same, and is shaped into the person we see them as. This also means that nobody is BORN "good" or "evil". A bit of nature vs. nurture. A prime example of this is Scourge. What are common personality traits of a Sonic? Specifically in Archie, Sonic is a lot more of a dick. He has an ego and he's a little impatient. But he's still a hero at the end of the day, kind and respectful and fun and all that jazz, even though he does half the things he does just for the thrill of it. Archie's Sonic is a bit more grounded, although not by a lot, since he lives in a house with a family and friends and a team. He is also confirmed to be the embodiment of chaos, adding to the thing I said earlier about Eggman and him. Sonic is the way he is because the people he loved were taken away from him by Robotnik, and he wants to fight to get them back, and then keep them, as well as doing the same for others. The person he is today is a result of his character traits being molded by his situations.
Scourge, on the other hand, has been presented as what Sonic COULD be, if everything had went wrong. Unlike Sonic, Scourge had massive daddy issues, like all good villains do. The Great Peace also meant Moebius was weak and ripe for takeover. Since Kintobor is a big softie (I have no time nor energy to start on HIM), Scourge just waltzed in and took over. Good for him. He also committed murder. Now, WHY is he like this? Remember what I said about Sonic's character?? In for the thrill, has an ego?? (None of which are inherently bad, mind you) Well, so does Scourge. Sonic has mentioned that he used to be a bully, meaning that being a hero isn't a part of who he is. It's a product of who he came to be. Those character traits are present in Scourge as well. He came to find Sonic multiple times, because he was fucking bored. Even after powering up, he wanted to go test his powers against Sonic and Shadow. He is very obviously egotistical, and when taking over Moebius, referred to himself as a king. Not very humble. But in this case, he's a massive fucking dickwad, since there was no big bad to put him in his place, whether that be war or a mad scientist, and teach him to fight for the right cause with his friends.
Now Zonic, you can argue, is neither good nor bad. He is leaning a bit to the good side, seeing as most Sonics ARE good, but he's not a pure hero like the regular Sonic is. (credit to @id-f87 for some of these ideas too) Just like how the No Zone is perpendicular to the Prime and Anti Zones, Zonic's moral compass is perpendicular as well. He is technically a "good guy" at the end of the day, but not in the way Sonic is. That ego and thrill-seeking hasn't been toned down, rather redirected by the establishment that he was raised in. He's an Elite Cop, meaning he probably puts a lot of time and effort into all of that, and the multiverse is most likely no stranger to adventures. There's a lot to be said about the Zone Cops being a corrupt establishment and everything, but that's another discussion for another day. Zonic's brief conversation with Warden Zobotnik shows that he doesn't really care too much for minor rules, and if convinced that something is the right thing to do, would probably do it, regardless of what his orders are. Unlike Sonic, who isn't willing to cut any of his losses, Zonic seems more willing to make sacrifices for the "greater good," meaning that it is possible for him to end up against Sonic Prime. Like Sonic and Scourge, he seems prone to making rash decisions sometimes, and definitely has his fair share of mistakes, such as when he forgor to call Underground Sonic to fight Giant Borg. It does feel like he doesn't WANT to be a Zone Cop at times, but genuinely does not know any other option for himself. He pretty much represents the Zone Cops to other zones, (specifically the Prime zone, which might have to do with the fact he's a Sonic) and it's very hard to separate his personal identity to the identity of his bosses. Which is something I think can be explored, especially when his Zone Cop need to maintain order clashes with his own chaotic nature, outside of a workplace.
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Sooo… Superman and the Authority?
magnus-king123 asked: Your thoughts on Superman & the authority Give it to me...lol
Anonymous asked: Seeing Bezos take his little trip into space the same day Morrison puts out a Superman comic that touches on how far we’ve fallen from the days when we dreamed of utopian futures where everyone explored the stars was a big gut punch. Not used to Superman being topical in that way.
Anonymous asked: What'd you think of Superman and the Authority#1?
This is far beyond what I can fit in the normal weekly reviews, so taking this as my notes on the first six pages, with this and this as my major lead-in thoughts:
* Janin's such a perfect fit for Morrison - the scale, the power, the facial expressions selling the character work, the screwing around with the panel formatting as necessary to sell the effect, the numinous sense of things going on larger than you can fully perceive amidst the beauty and chaos. It's a shame he wasn't around 25 years ago to draw JLA, but I'll take him going with Morrison onto other future projects.
* His intro action sequence is such a great demonstration of why Black actually does have something to offer, and also how he's such a dumbass desperately needing Superman to save him from himself.
* While Jordie Bellaire didn't legit go with an entirely monochromatic palate the way early previews suggested, it's still an effect frequently and excellently deployed here. And glad to see Steve Wands carry into this from Blackstars since there's such an obvious carryover from its work with Superman.
* "Gentlemen. Ladies. Others." Great both because of the obvious - hey, Superman's nodding at me! - and because it's a phrasing that reinforces that this take on him (and let's be real Morrison) is old as hell.
* I'm mostly past caring about whether this is an alt-Earth Superman until it becomes indisputable one way or another, this and Action both rule so what does it really matter? But while there are still a couple signs in play suggesting some kind of division (the Action Comics #1036 cover, Midnighter up to time-travel shenanigans) the "lost in time" quote clearly thrown in after the fact to explain how he could have met Kennedy outside of 5G that wouldn't be necessary for an Elseworlds, the assorted gestures towards Superman's current status quo, the Kingdom Come symbol appearing in Action, and that Morrison would have had to completely rewrite the ending if this wasn't supposed to be 'the' version of Clark Kent going forward as was the intent when they first planned it all say to me that no, no fooling around, this is our guy going forward one way or another.
* Janin and Bellaire making the first version of the crystal Fortress ever that actually looks as cool as you want it to.
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Anonymous asked: I like that Superman and The Authority is basically the anti-All-Star; instead of the laid back, immortal Superman who is supercharged, we have a stressed, ageing Superman whose tremendous powers are fading. The former will always be there to save us, but the latter is running out of time and needs to pull off a Hail Mary. Also, he mentions in his monologue to Black that he was "lost in time" when he met JFK, so maybe he is the main continuity Clark. Or he's the t-shirt Supes from Sideways.
* You're absolutely right - the power reversal is obvious and the ticking clock in play seemingly isn't for his own survival but everyone around him as he wakes up and realizes all the old icons grew complacent with the gains they'd made and he's not leaving behind the world he meant to. Both, however, are built on the idea of preparing the world to not need them anymore - it'll still have a Superman in his son, but that'll only work because of the others he empowers and inspires. The question is what happens to Clark if he's not going to live in the sun for 83000 years.
* Clark's 'exercise' here does more to sell me on the idea of Old Man Superman as a cool idea than however many decades of Earth 2 stuff.
* Intergang being noted alongside Darkseid and Doomsday speaks to how much Kirby informed Morrison's conception of Superman.
* This isn't exactly the most progressive in its disability politics but at least it makes clear Black's being a piece of shit about it.
* It's startling how much Clark can get away with saying stuff in here you'd never expect to come out of Superman's mouth. "I made an executive decision" "Privacy, really...?" "You have nowhere to go, Black. Nothing to live for." "There are few people in my life who I instinctively and viscerally dislike, and you've always been one of them." It only works because there's zero aggression behind it, he's just past the point of niceties and being totally frank while making clear none of these assessments preclude that he cares and is going to unconditionally do the right thing every time. He is absolutely, per Morrison, humanity's dad picking us up when we're too drunk to drive ourselves home.
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* The story doesn't put a big flashing light over it, but it's not even a little bit subtle having the material threat of the issue be a ticking timebomb left by the carelessness and hubris of generations past.
* Manchester keeps trying to poke the bear and prove his hot takes about Superman and it's just not working. The front he put up under Kelley is gone after decades of defeats, and as Morrison understands what actually conceptually works about him as a rival to Superman underneath the aging nerd paranoia he's exposed as what he absolutely would be in 2021: a dude with a horrific terminal case of Twitter brainworms. I was PANICKED when I heard there was an 'offensive term' joke in this, I was braced for Morrison at their well-meaning worst, but it's such a goddamn perfect encapsulation of a very specific breed of Twitter leftist who uses their politics first and foremost as a cudgel and justification to label their abrasive, judgmental shittiness as self-righteousness (plus it's a killer payoff to a joke from way back in his original appearance). Cannot believe they pulled that off when they're so very, very open about basically not knowing how the internet works.
* @charlottefinn: Manchester Black using his telekinetic powers to force someone he hates to fave a problematic tweet so that he can screenshot it and start a dogpile
@intergalactic-zoo: “Once they cancel Bibbo, Superman won’t be *anyone’s* fav’rit anymore!”
* Friend noted this issue had to be fully the conversation because the whole premise stands on the house of cards of these two somehow working together, and with three 'silent' inset panels the creative team pulls off that turning point.
* So much of this feels on the surface like Morrison bringing back the All-Star vibes with Clark, but when he drops a "That's all you got?" in a brawl you realize what's underlining that bluntness and confidence in the face of failure is that deep down this is still the Action guy too. This dude ain't gonna get wrecked in his Fortress while the other guy chuckles about him being A SOFT WEE SCIENTIST'S SON!
* Bringing up Jor-El made me realize that Morrison already spelled out that this is the final threat to Superman, what he faces at the end of the road:
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"Now it's your turn, Superman."
* A l'il Superman 2000/All-Star reference with the Phantom Zone map!
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* There's so much intertextuality going on here even by Morrison standards - Change or Die with the old hero putting together a team of morally nebulous folks out to 'fix' everything, Flex Mentallo with the muscleman trying to redeem the punk, Doomsday Clock with the fate of the world hinging on whether Superman can get through to a meta stand-in for an idea of 'modern' comics cynicism, DKR and New Frontier and Kingdom Come and Multiversity and Seven Soldiers and What's So Funny and All-Star and Action and the last 5 years of monthly Superman comics and Authority and probably Jupiter's Legacy and Tom Strong - but none of that's needed. You could go in with the baseline pop cultural understanding of the character and not care about any of the inside baseball shit and get that this is a story about a leader of a generation that let down the people they made all their grand promises to as inertia and day-to-day demands and complacency let him be satisfied with the accomplishments they'd made long ago, looking at a new era and seeing the ways its own activists are dropping the ball. The only thing that fundamentally matters in a "you have to accept you're reading a superhero story" sense is that because he's Superman he's willing to own up to it and listen to people who might know better about some things and try to set things right while he and those who'll take his place still have a chance. And yes, the oldster looking back on their legacy with a skeptical eye and hoping for better from the next generation, hoping most of all that their little heir apparent can fulfill the promise inside of him instead of being a provocating little shitkicker, is obviously also autobiographical.
* The overlaying Kennedy reprisal is such a great visual of a sudden intrusive thought.
* The Kryptonite secret is the obvious "This is going to matter!" moment, but "He lied about his son" is a bit that doesn't connect to anything going on right now so maybe that's important here too? More significantly, the Justice League can't actually be the villains here but that Ultra-Humanite's crew are in an Earth-orbiting satellite makes pretty clear what's up.
* I've said before that between Superman, OMAC, and a New Gods-affiliated speedster this was going to use all of Morrison's favorite things. King Arthur playing a role isn't exactly dissuading me.
* Love the idea that all the antiheroes have their own community in the same way as the capes and tights crew. They definitely all privately think the rest are posers though and that they alone are Garth Ennis Punisher in a mob of Garth Ennis Wolverines.
* Manchester's fallen so far he's gone from trying to convince Superman to kill to convince him to dunk on people for their bad takes and Clark just doesn't get it. Official prediction of dialogue for upcoming issues:
"According to these bloody Fortress scans, the only thing that can restore your powers is an unfiltered hit of dopamine. Don't worry, Doctor Black has a few ideas."
"Hmm. Maybe I'll plant a nice tree?"
"...fuck you."
* Ok I already talked about how great the Fortress looks in here but LOVE this library.
* A pair of pages this seems like the right spot to discuss from Black's original appearance that underlines both his and Superman's inadequacies up to this point:
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Responding to the problem of "the government and penal system are hopelessly corrupt" neither of them has any actual notion of what to do about it in spite of their respective posturing beyond how to handle individual outside actors - each is in their own way every bit as small-minded and reactionary as the other. Clark's coming around though, and he's holding out hope for the other guy.
* Superman: Have a lovely mineral water :) proper hydration is important :)
Manchester Black: *Is a dude who can get so mad he vomits and passes out. At water.*
* That last page is the one to beat for the year, and does more to put over the idea of this as an Authority book than that Midnighter and Apollo are literally going to show up. It also feels like Morrison tacitly acknowledging all the ways the premise could go or at least be received wrong - from Superman saying 'enough is enough' to who he's bringing into the fold to go about it - in the most beautifully on-the-nose fashion imaginable. Maybe they'll save us all! Or maybe they'll drown us in their vomit.
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max-vandenburg-is-life · 3 years ago
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Long Loki rant incoming
Ok first things first I've always liked Loki a lot as a character but I don't consider myself a really really big fan mainly because I haven't read the comics. So all this rant is gonna be only about mcu loki and loki in the mcu has been written differently depending on the movie so yeah. And on that note let's go!!!!
So today I'm gonna talk about what I liked and what I didn't like about the Loki show. This is obviously just my opinion, you can disagree with me! I'd love to hear your opinions!
First I wanna talk about is the writing of Loki's character. So previously it has been established in the mcu that Loki doesn't do bad things just because he's a bad guy or because he wants power above everything else, but because after all the manipulation and lying he went through as a child, the abuse, always been seen as less than those around him and being taught to hate himself for who he was (a Jotun). He wants validation and being treated the same as the others, he doesn't really care about ruling or being king. His actions are a result of his trauma. So the show painting him as "He's a bad guy!! He's evil he can't help it it's in his nature!! He just wants to be king!!!" felt off to me since it completely goes against all the previous canon. Apart from that, I feel the show also erased other aspects of him that had always been essential to his character, such as him being very smart and always having a plan, and his powers (he BARELY used his powers throughout the season and he's supposed to be the best sorcerer in the nine realms. Please). So yeah there's that. I didn't absolutely despise his character in the show or anything like that, he generally seemed more happy and chill and that was good, I just felt some aspects of the character seemed inconsistent.
Apart from Loki, something I loved about the show were all the new characters that we were introduced to. Sylvie was absolutely fantastic, she had a well written tragic backstory, she had a goal and she had layers. She was a really well written character. Also she was just really cool overall, she had a cool personality and seeing her use her powers was very fun. (Sylvie your hand in marriage) (I guess I can talk about the "betrayal" now. So yeah not gonna lie I don't think it was that bad. She had a goal she had been pursuing her whole life and she obviously prioritized that before a guy who she met a few days ago. She did hurt him of course but still it's easy to understand her decision.) Mobius was also really cool, in the first episode I didn't like him much but I started liking him a lot later on. He's just a good guy, he wants to help people. (HE ONLY WANTED A JETSKI MARVEL). And I liked his story a lot, he was forced into working for the tva because his memories were erased and he was told what he was doing the right thing when killing all those people, but once he finds out all of it was false he immediately starts going against it and trying to help as many people as he can. Ravonna was also a good character (I keep saying all of them are good characters lol they're well written ok). Like okay she was a little bit evil but I liked her. I really liked her ambition and her confidence. I would have loved to know more about her life at the tva, because it seemed like because of her position she knew some things that most didn't. Hunter B15 was also really good, loved her character development. Casey only appeared in the first two eps but for some reason I liked him a lot idk why. Casey my beloved. Kang was mind-blowing good, he absolutely carried the episode. He was so fun to watch and a very interesting character. This is how you do villains Marvel. And then all the Loki variants were amazing. Classic Loki was great, he was more mature and wiser than the Loki we're used to watching and I felt really sad about his whole situation (aka trying and failing to find his brother because he missed him, getting pruned and then dying). Kid loki was a BLAST, I really liked the little funky dude and I would love to know more about his life. Boastful Loki didn't appear for long but I liked him a lot, he looked like a really funny guy I wish he had had more screen time. And then there was the Lokigator which was also great. President Loki was also cool (meaning he had the coolest outfit), but we didn't see much of him. I think that's a big problem with the show, because they made it seem like it was gonna be more about the other Loki variants and their timelines (that's what it seemed to me from the trailers) but then we barely got that. Sad shit.
Now let's talk about the writing of the show in general. The writers definitely went off with the philosophical conversations, I enjoyed them greatly (Loki's and Mobius' talk in the second ep and Loki's and Sylvie's talk in the third ep were amazing). Something I didn't like at all about the show (this is probably my biggest complaint) is that the writing of the show throughout the episodes didn't seem consistent, like each episode seemed to be a different genre, and that made the whole story feel weird. What I'm trying to say is: the first episode was about Loki learning more about his life and reflecting on why he does the things he does. There was more to the episode but it was mainly that. It was a very emotional episode. The second episode looked like a cop show, they investigated a crime scene in the beginning, they did some detectiving, they had a great breakthrough and found out were the villain was hiding in the end. The third episode was an action episode. It gave me the vibes of mid season episode that isn't too relevant to the plot in which the characters go on some short mission. The fourth episode I can't exactly categorize it I think it was kinda like episode 1 but with some more action. The fifth episode was also a mix, they had a lot of reflecting on Loki's character like in the first episode and then also some action. And the last episode was mostly just exposition and a tiny bit of action at the end, very philosophical and stuff. It also felt like in the first two episodes they were indicating that the show was gonna be about free will and good and evil but that kind of disappeared for a big part of the show. I'm trying so hard to explain myself well, I hope what I say makes sense. Now my opinion on the episodes, my favourites were definitely ep 1, 3 and 5 (haha odd numbers go brrrr). The pilot was absolutely amazing, and I loved the direction the show seemed to be taking (YES MARVEL explore his trauma mmmm that's some good shit right there). It was really emotional but like in a good way. The third episode was great. I think it balanced really well the action and the dialogue, seeing Loki and Sylvie going on their shenanigans, using their powers and fighting was really fun, and then the train talk scene was absolutely amazing (bi loki yay! Gonna talk about this later). The fifth episode was great mostly because seeing all the other Loki variants and how they contrasted between each other was fantastic and I loved it. I really hope we see more of the variants in the next season. The other eps, the second and fourth were okay, the one I think was the worst one was the last one. Damn that episode. It was a very slow episode. Thank god the guy who plays Kang was really good because otherwise the episode would have been impossible to watch. There was so much exposure but it felt like we already knew most of it? They talked about how multiple timelines existing was bad because chaos and stuff, and they talked about the war in which the different timelines battled each other. Ok we already knew this. I feel like the only important thing to take from that whole talk was that Kang's variants are very powerful and dangerous and they were introducing the villain to the mcu. The whole episode felt like instead of giving closure to the characters or ending some storylines, the main thing it was doing was introducing the concept of the multiverse for the next marvel movies.
Something that surprised me a lot about the show is how important it is for the mcu storyline. Like in the first episode they talked about how the tva (and of course Kang) was much more powerful than the Infinity Stones, when basically all previous marvel movies were about them and about their power. And then Kang was revealed to have created a sacred timeline, he controls absolutely everything that happens. All of this is so important and for some reason I didn't think the show was gonna be like this. Not that I'm complaining, this is great. And I feel like a lot of people are not realising how big it is? Like I don't see much talking about how this is literally the greatest power in the universe.
Damn this is getting long sorry.
I suppose I'll have to talk about it because it has been this big thing. I'm talking about the loki x sylvie pairing. I didn't like it too much, it felt a lot like the writers went "he's a guy she's a girl so they have to fall in love", like I felt they had a very different dynamic and when they said that I was mostly surprised and confused. Because they were variants of each other their romance felt weird to me, and the fact that they made a character genderfluid and then made a woman and a man version fall in love also rubbed me the wrong way (I'll talk about the genderfluidity later). I did like the mobius x loki pairing more, but still I don't think they should have got any romance this season, I feel like there has to be a lot more progress in that relationship before any romance. I generally feel like Loki should first start getting some friends and then later on we can start with romance. But yeah this is just my opinion. And all the drama and discourse there has been over this???? Some of you guys look ridiculous not gonna lie.
Ok now let's talk about representation. I'm not poc myself so I don't feel like I'm in the position to say if something was good or bad, so I'm not gonna talk about poc rep. The show did a good job with female characters, many of the main characters were women and they were very well-written, not sexualized and cast appropriately for their age (I can't believe I'm praising this, this should be the bare minimum. Why is media in general so bad. Like please just.) About the bi rep now. I'm sure that the writers or directors of the show had to fight really hard with marvel so that they could make loki canon bi, so yeah cheers to that guys good job. Obviously it's not enough, and I really hope his bisexuality is explored more later. But yeah we finally have a queer character in the mcu this is big. Now about the genderfluid rep. OOF. I have a lot to say about this. It was bad. Really bad. I don't know if they just don't know what genderfluid means but that's what it looks like after watching the show. Not only were all of the variants cis, but they also went on to say that Loki as a woman was a weird and uncommon thing. Oh my god. And what angers me the most is the fact that Marvel used the so called genderfluid confirmation to their benefit. They exploited so much that little piece of paper that said his sex (not even gender) was fluid. I saw SO MANY articles praising marvel for making him canon genderfluid, and then it was absolutely shit. Absolutely shit. Out of everything in the show this is definitely what I hate the most.
Gotta calm down now. The soundtrack of the show was amazing, the actual songs they used were perfect and then the music they composed for the show was just *chef's kiss* (i have no idea how they're called but the song that plays during the title sequence WHAT A BANGER and the one that plays when loki and mobius are looking at the whole tva from the balcony in the first ep WHAT A BANGER). The aesthetic of the show was also great, the colours were really pretty (Lamentis bi colours my beloved) and I think it had some really cool shots. The acting was great, I'm gonna highlight Kang because I thought he was amazing. The costumes and that stuff were also really cool, I really liked seeing all the different versions of outfits they gave to the Loki variants (if anyone is interested I made another post reviewing all the variants' outfits) and Kang's funky costume was great too. The design of the places and that stuff (I have no idea how to call these lol I'm trying so hard but I don't know any of the technical words) was great: Lamentis was really beautiful, the void was also very cool and the tva was really well designed.
Ok y'all I think this is it. I'm so sorry this is much longer than I expected and if anyone actually reads all of it i love you and PLEASE tell me your thoughts (if anyone wanna chat about the show with me privately send me a message!!! I love talking with y'all). A little final note, English is not my first language, nor my second, so yeah sorry if I can't explain myself well. Bye!!!!
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ahhhh you updated!! i didnt think you would until hiwthi was done! i love the characterizations hemlock in particular is so new a concept to me that i want to see what his line was like from his and... his exs point of view. still learning the names sorry. i love that mc just has the good reactions to everyone. like what i mean is finds everyone attractive/ interesting the way they would if this was the skeletons - mc isnt intimidated by the royalty bit, doesnt have to learn to see them as smexy. the by play between rose and mc was good too. just a bit of light flirting nbd. mc is a goof and im loving the nerd already. and basil with his pokemons and hes totally doing it on purpose what a good dad man. OKAY BUT this raises the question... questions 1. is everyone mutliversed or is it just the royals 2. have they all met their fallen human 3. how are the timelines getting along with the sudden power vacuum? anyways thank you for writing!
heheheh you overestimate my ability to stay focused 😎 BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS my bestie is really into toriel and asgore so every so often it asks about the fic and im like oh shit, i suddenly have the power to write like 3k words. IM SUPER GLAD U LOVE THE CHARACTERIZATIONS AND REACTIONS LIKE DJKENS i have been super nervous about these next few chapters bc its soldifying personalities and characterization and i really want to get it good. so this is like AAAAAA a win for me.
ok ok i got sidetracked questions:
1. only the royals only. as always with these things, the sans machine fucked up and boom, now six other versions of toriel and asgore exist in one timeline. awkward. i just thought itd be funny if the catalyst for a harem with the goats is the same as the skeletons.
2. okay like, the first fallen human, the one they raised with asriel is a definite yes. theyve all met them, its why the swaps are very uhh sad to say the least around frisk. the undertale protag fallen human *flops hand* ehhhh most solid answer i can give u rn is yes and no.
3. as you might be able to guess things are not going super duper great. any crazy multiverse shenanigans wont happen, but its certainly not without its consequences. id say specific timelines wise, they’re probably doing something along the lines of if a neutral route occurred?? someone else taking the throne and going from there. try not to think about fell sans, swap paps, or sf paps goin in for knock knock jokes and not receiving an answer. 🫠
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