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riickgrimes · 2 years ago
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me ever since feb. 1
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oneofthosebells · 8 months ago
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Oof. Okay. I understand where you are coming from, but I am really uncomfortable with this take. Because I genuinely do not understand what Netflix Nordic are supposed to have done wrong here.
Teenagers have parasocial relationships and a lot of emotions about them, absolutely. It's why the Beatles were told to hide their wives back in the 60s, it's why every boyband member throughout the decades has been told to be vague about their relationships/sexuality so as not to spoil their fans' fantasies.
But this isn't a boyband situation where the PR team are trying to get a generation of teens invested in a brand so that they'll buy albums and concert tickets and merch (and then keep on buying them). For NN, YR is simply one of their shows - yes, their biggest and most popular show, but one that's soon coming to an end and therefore is soon going to cease to be of benefit to them except as possibly a springboard to other content. ('You liked that? Watch this!') Right or wrong, that's Netflix's business model - a constant stream of new content to keep hold of subscribers.
Ultimately, the diehard fans screaming and crying on twitter and insta do not actually matter to NN. Because they're the ones who are going to watch (and rewatch) the show anyway. The people NN need to worry about are the people scrolling idly past who go 'oh, there's a new series of that queer Swedish prince show, I enjoyed that - and ooh, looks like the lead is in another movie, I might watch that'. That's what's going to get the numbers that will please Netflix HQ in California.
Frankly, in those circumstances, I think we're lucky to be getting the content we are. A whole behind the scenes documentary? That's huge! Hardly any shows get that! A fan event with the cast? That's awesome! We've had trailers and sneak peeks and pics, and I'm sure there's plenty of cast promo to come as they've clearly filmed it.
I really don't understand what NN are supposed to have done differently. Not support their other new shows because it might upset some people on twitter? Make their lead actors pretend that they COULD be in a relationship with each other (nudge nudge, wink wink) when they're absolutely not? I know many a publicity tour for a Hollywood film has done exactly that, but that doesn't make it right.
They could perhaps have released content earlier or in a different order but do we really think that would have stopped the complaints? NN will have a finite budget to release a finite amount of content, and if they had released say a cast interview weeks early, then it would probably mean a gap somewhere else in the schedule and then the fans would STILL be complaining because there's not new content every day.
Teenagers' feelings and emotions are absolutely valid - but that doesn't mean their behaviour is always valid too. Part of being a teenager is learning from the behaviour of the adults around you what behaviours are okay, in fandom as well as in real life. If we, as adults, turn around to teenagers and say actually all that whining and entitled complaining you're doing is fine actually, keep doing more of it and we'll give you everything you want, then we're not helping them.
I'm just a bit uncomfortable with the idea of infantalising teenagers like that; the idea that because they have big emotions, we should condone or even encourage their behaviour.
I live in a country where you are legally an adult at 16. (It's complicated because of the complex relationship between Scottish and English law over the centuries, but for the most part yeah, you're considered an adult at 16 under Scots law while it's 18 in England.) And for me, if someone's old enough to have a job, to pay taxes, to vote, to get married etc, then they're old enough to understand basic concepts like actors and characters are different people.
E posted about APOY first, and F didn’t even post about YR. They really moved on.
I have a counter question: why does it matter even IF it is true? Does it actually affect the show and its quality in any way? Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams famously couldn’t stand each other as they were filming The Notebook, and yet the film was a huge success, and their performances were praised greatly; their feud didn’t affect the actual film. And this is not even that, it’s just actors doing their job and promoting their other project 😅 They have a life after YR, shocking I know. They’re allowed to “move on” as long as they fulfil their contractual obligations and do their actual job (which they do).
The whole insta stories thing is frankly quite ridiculous, because Edvin simply reposted the slides in… the order they were in. The NN post had APOY first. That’s it 😭 As for Felicia, of course she’s more excited about the film she’s the lead in than the show she’s got a tiny role in (also, we don’t even know if she’s gonna be involved in the YR panel/screening event; maybe it’s just the main five). This is all a bit silly, I’m sorry 😅
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altruistic-meme · 2 years ago
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1 2 16 - fanfic writer asks
had to type quickly before i forgot alxhskdjs
eheh, hello beloved <3 also what a mood
1. Who is your favorite character to write for and is this the character you find easiest to write for? i think my favorite may actually be Andrew! he's very interesting and trying to figure out how he may react to everything is super super fun. he is, however, definitely not the EASIEST to write. i think Neil (or well. Nathaniel actually lmao) may be the easiest for me to write since i feel like a lot of what he does is stuff that i can understand a lot better on a personal level.
2. What is your favorite fic of yours? you know it's gotta be (why is there) joy in this poison!! i'm just so proud of everything about that fic, from the amount of planning to the wordcount so far, to the way it's been coming out. it's so much fit to my tastes, and it's one of the few fics i've written where i've decided "you know what, i really don't care if this gets any attention bc goddamnit i WANT to write this!!"
a close second is actually Stupid and Anxious though! i recently reread it and i'm still so glad with how well that turned out :') it's really amazing what can be done in so few words as well.
16. Do you have a method for getting characters to sound/feel in character? it's all about that source material babyyyyy-
no but seriously! whenever i write something i try and make sure i rewatch or reread the actual content. a lot of the times, if we've engaged with the fandom a lot then the characterization will start to shift in our minds, away from the canon characters and towards fanon characters. so when i write, i go back to the source to remind myself what the characters actually are like when they are in character.
my first fic for yoi, Brown and Blue, was written before i read any yoi fanfiction. (wit)jitp was planned/started after going back through the books and specifically noting character behaviors. a soft place to fall was written after rewatching the episode when it took place.
this is also why i like to point out what differences there are between fanon/canon! because it helps to remind myself that a lot of what i see in fics from other's is lovely, but not always in character. and when my goal is to keep them in character, then knowing what common things people do helps me keep an eye on my own writing.
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