#because they're both fighting different wars!!!!! they both deserve happy endings and for their pain to be acknowledged!!!!!
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scoonsalicious · 10 months ago
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We are almost at the finish line and God it's bittersweet. This series has been a wild ride and I wouldn't trade it for the world. Crazy to me how time flew by so quickly. But anyway, let's get to this chapter.
First off, TONY! that first sentence was so funny to me because the first thing he really found out was that Pocket had a miscarriage. Like, she didn't know he was there obvs but goodness was about to give him a heart attack. Happy to see that not they have the means to save all the women who were involved in the trafficking. Also her swear jar? That MUCH. How? But also, I'm really not surprised.
Also glad to have a confirmation that Jade is dead (aha. pay respects to the dead? Or not. But anyway this is the first and last time I'm calling her by her name so) But I mean, Bucky did snap her neck and I pictured it the way Thanos did with Loki in Infinity War and I don't know if she could recover from that lmao. And as much as I wanted her to have a slow painful suffering where she wished she was dead, i also don't want her around with how crazy she was so. Win-Win.
But them having to sedate Bucky just to get Pocket to the cradle though, oof. The whole scene playing in my head. Ugh. My heart. And truly, Bucky did pick her in the moment that mattered most, and as he said in the next part, he didn't regret what he did, so long as he saved his girl. I'm also glad that Tony and probably the rest now knows, because at least Pocket can have someone she can confide in. After all, there's nothing that kills you more than having to carry a burden by yourself. But with that said, Pocket does know things that they don't. Everything that transpired in the room when she got kidnapped was between her and Jade and nobody else knows about it so they also can't fully pass judgment on Bucky. And yeah, he's not entirely blameless, he still did some shitty things. But you also can't ignore all the other factors because they did play a part. Either way, the decision is always going to be Pocket's, at the end of the day it's up to her if she forgives him or not and how she wants their relationship to look in the future.
The unarmed joke, please I love. Also Tony beating Bucky up. Not saying it wasn't deserved but I also feel kinda bad because I just know Bucky didn't even fight back and just let it happen. Again, he's not exactly blameless, but he also not a complete asshole u know. But AH SO HAPPY THEY FINALLY GOT TO TALK. And I for sure know that this is just the start and they're going to have so many more conversations like this in the future with and without a therapist. I'm just so glad that they finally knew what happened with Jade and her manipulations like. Bucky and Pocket don't have secrets anymore and they truly have laid everything out to each other and this is the best way for them to start on a clean slate. It's so sweet that Pocket is understanding of his situation but I'm also glad that Bucky isn't going to let himself get off on a light sentence either so you just know he's going to always try and better. Just so much self awareness and growth through the whole part which I loveeee. They're both such different people now but for the better.
Not onto to this shithead named Steveioli. And boy do I have a lot to say. He's such a selfish little fucking bitch. Like who the fuck does he think he is trying to make these decisions for Pocket? Like say Bucky was still a player after DECADES, Pocket is still a grown and smart woman, she can handle herself. Because to me, this whole thing ultimately looks like Steveioli was underestimating Pocket and her judgment. It reads as him trying to control Pocket's decision for her and who she should be with. Not only that. THIS IS HIS BEST FRIEND LIKE REALLY? you're throwing him under the bus after EVERYTHING he's gone through? You see him being happy with a girl and the first thing you think about is "he's going to get bored of her" like, how dare you? what kind of friend are you? That also speaks SO MUCH on how he sees Pocket because??? You think Bucky would get bored of her????? She's this amazing woman and YOU think he's going to get bored????? Or is she just an amazing woman that fits your agenda? I DON'T GET YOU ROGERS. You know how I know how insincere his apology is? He keeps dragging Bucky down to make himself look good!!!! It's always "Yeah I did that but Bucky did something worse!" or "Okay I might have helped Carthage get what she wants and made it absolutely fucking easier for her to manipulate him and put him in a difficult and also dangerous situation BUT BUCKY! He still did the thing!" like how despicable are you? Obviously, Bucky still did make his choices I'm not denying that. He truly isn't innocent in this at all but he was manipulated and was practically beaten down to a pulp mentally, and was put in so many positions where he had to fight his own demons as well as an ACTUAL DEMON IRL WHISPERING IN HIS EAR and guess who had a hand in making that possible? YOU STEVE. And you were perfectly fine, sound body and mind! And what was his reason? Selfishness, jealousy, envy and just whining and crying that the girl he loves is fucking happy with someone else. YOU WEAKASS BASTARD. He wasn't even going through ANYTHING. So I could argue what Steve did was so much worse because THERE WAS MALICIOUS INTENT. Because Bucky was right, he can try and hide behind this "I did it to protect you and wanted to save you from heartbreak" when we all know he did it for selfish reasons. He wanted Pocket to himself. He wanted to try and "save" her like she's some damsel in distress and become her shoulder to cry on and strike while she's vulnerable to manipulate her feelings to get her to fall for him. Yeah, you never meant for her to get hurt but you were willing to get in between her and your BEST FRIEND because you want her to yourself as if YOU OWN HER OR HAVE CLAIM OVER HER. THAT'S JUST SICK OF YOU ROGERS. sigh. I'm so angry I can't even. I need a fucking walk.
But anyway, so happy to see a glimpse of what Bucky has learned in therapy. Like that really hit the nail on the head about his self-sabotaging tendencies. It's like an evil voice in his head needing to be proven right and that's such a tough battle. And please, that cute little reintroduction for them to start over is so sweet. I'm so glad they're taking this one step at a time. Lots and a lot of therapy, and with them always being honest with each other? They're going to be fine. Also, What the 'F' is it?
— Jnon 🤍
Yay, two Jnons for me to respond to! <3
Isn't it so crazy how, tomorrow, it's over? Like, I've been working on this story since September of last year! It's been a trip, but I have to say, it's been so much better since I started sharing it with all of you!
LOL, I really wanted Tony to hear about the miscarriage and be like "exqueege me?" and Pocket to just brush it off like "lol, wut?" She's definitely not ready to talk about it, but I thought it was important for him to know. He's got to be able to help her through it. Also, poor girl-- second time in (for her) three days she's woken up in the hospital. She's basically like "Nah, not this shit again."
I imagine Pocket is kind of like me, in that, throughout the day, when she's frustrated, she'd just mutter "fuck, fuck, fuckity-fuck" out loud-- just a variety of swear words coming out of her mouth without thought. I was also imagining that the savings account where her swear money went had a high-yielding interest, lol, so it was just money growing money. Now, it almost makes me wish I had some way to track the number of times I swore on a daily basis. I mean, it tracked her swearing for over a year and a half. And who knows how many times she cried out "fuck" when she and Bucky were alone... ;)
I debated long and hard about how I was going to have her use the swear jar money. At first, it was actually going to fund a vacation for her and Bucky to reconnect, but I really like the idea of her distributing among the surviving victims so much better. She's doing for these woman what Tony did for her-- giving them a second chance, an ability to transform their circumstances. It seemed like a very Pocket-thing to do. She can't save all the women, but she can change the lives of these women, like Tony changed hers. Oh no, Jade's dead. Press F to pay respects in the chat :P lol
I'm glad you liked the unarmed joke. I really, really wanted to use it again, lol. It was so horrible the first time around, but it was the thing that drew Bucky to Pocket in the first place. So, I thought it was a really cute full-circle moment for them. And yes, absolutely-- Bucky just stood there and took it while Tony beat him up. He felt he deserved every single blow, and would have probably asked Tony for more. He and Pocket did a lot of growing up, and I'm happy that they can finally have these conversations and be honest with each other.
Ah, Steveoli. Where even to begin? To me, there's just something incredibly sinister about a person who does things in the benefit of their own interests, but is convinced they are doing them for the good of someone else. It's like... ignorant malevolence or something. He was definitely trying to control decisions for both Bucky and Pocket, simply because he didn't like the outcome of the decisions they made for themselves. In his mind, he's Captain America-- he knows what's Right, what's best. I don't think Steve necessarily believes that Bucky would have gotten bored of Pocket-- it was more that he wanted to believe that Bucky would, so that Steve could excuse his own actions. My read on Steve (and this is just that-- my personal read) is that he always felt morally superior to Bucky. Bucky dated a bunch of girls; Steve was holding out for true love. Bucky got drafted; Steve wanted to enlist and "do the right thing", and in the context of this story, it hurt Steve's pride that this girl he likes would choose his inferior friend over him (again, just MY Steve take; don't come at me, Steve lovers!). And I tried to show that in the way Steve "apologized." Like "Yeah, okay, I did a bad thing, but Bucky did worse, so obviously I'm more deserving of your forgiveness, and by extension, love."
I mentioned in another ask that the whole bit with them redoing their introductions to one another was something I planned pretty much since Chapter 1, Part 1. Like I said, I love call-backs, so having them go back to the moment they first met, as a means of truly starting over, just felt like the right thing to do. But then, this tiny voice in the back of my head that sounds a lot like Tony Stark demanded to have the last line, so we had to come back to "What the 'F' Is It?" I swear to god, that was the best idea I ever came up with while high, lol. As always, I love you!
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yeeharley · 4 years ago
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war
peter parker is a child of war- harley knows this, has seen evidence in the form of bloody noses and straight-through bullet wounds and bloodshot, tired, nightmare-worn eyes after eight hours spent hiding from the darkness lurking in his closet.
he’s a child of red and blue and purple, of torn fabric and screamed curses and death. of waking up in terror and gripping harley’s forearms so hard they bruise with imprints of his fingers and sobbing into his shoulder. 
peter is a tragic character in this tragic novel of their tragic lives.
but the thing is, harley keener happens to be a child of war, too. 
not of the obvious war, of course- not the front lines, the battles, the high-speed fights and catastrophic injuries. harley is born of a different kind of war, a silent war, where the only time you’re fighting is when the tears sting your eyes and you know- you just know- that any kind of weakness you show can and will be held against you.
he’s a child of empty glass bottles and amber liquid and the sound of angry voices in the living room. of the thump of a fist hitting the wall, an open hand slamming against a small ear.
of lottery tickets that never find their way back to the kitchen counter.
of half-siblings he didn’t even know existed until he was seventeen, and of a younger sister who doesn’t know how to adjust to the knowledge that the man who had stood as a shadow in their doorway and screamed and screamed and screamed because the dishes hadn’t been done properly had left them for his other children.
harley keener and peter parker are both children of war, and in war, nobody truly comes out triumphant.
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larrythefloridaman · 3 years ago
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Y'all like your deities with or without the shell?
Under the readmore is aaaaaaaaall color god observations and musings based on them, because I am studying to become the world's Premiere Chromatheologian and RGB Understander so under the cut is pretty much Oops! All Spoilers! up to the most recent episode of season 3.
Apparently Universal Color God Attributes:
Damage to their domain hurts them, but fixing the issue, or lashing out by using their powers destructively, can help them to repair the damage.
If they sustain enough damage, it can temporarily paralyze them and send them into a strengthened but 'exposed' state (chartreuse's spirit activation in the last fight of 19) and further damage after that will activate a failsafe, which is unique by domain but seemingly designed to give them the chance to balance things, but can get… very out of hand or backfire depending on circumstances. (see: cobalt’s failsafe sending mark's universe into a never-ending apocalyptic war because word of the cure for death became too widespread for the killing urge failsafe to affectively balance anything because every side could simply revive their fallen.)
Chartreuse's failsafe is something of a stopped time bubble quarantine where processes that require the passing of time cannot complete, allowing her the time to wear down the offending party to beat them to death or plan around finishing them.
Cobalt's is inciting war, the casualties serving to balance the scale. I'm not sure we know Crimson's yet- he's never taken enough direct damage without doing damage to compensate in order to trigger it, although i dont remember season one well enough to recall if any of the universe stuff in it tracks with the pattern bc season one is a bit fucky
Connected in a fashion that allows them to simply Sense the overall status of the others to some extent, although they don't know Why theyre in the state theyre in without asking (chartreuse [and by extension, folk, presumably on her information] confronting crimson via crimsonaut for pretending to be dead, Cobalt confronting both his siblings about how they are handling their duties improperly but not knowing about Folk. He knew about the constants deaths because hes a death god, duh, but he didnt use their names like crimson did, possibly implying they're erased upon death so thoroughly that only crimson and the constants can really recall a shattered constants' existence, not even the other guardians.)
Abilities of the guardians can be replicated by mortals through three apparent methods- through machines (dimensional bus, the time machine, presumably J0hn's part in Sephiroth's resurrection,) simply through advanced enough individual skill (Home MD curing death, potentially Dantoinette's universe portal travel, maybe Genwun's sped up time bubble that evolved them into Genfour? although that could very well have just been an illusion and theyre just like, a fuckin theater kid that was doing pretend character development for the Bit or something given GenFive turned out to be a zoroark) or through stealing some of the power of the relevant god (Dr. Order stealing Chartreuse's power, Dani maybe having stolen some of Crimson's when she beat his ass. Dani's one woman universal travel is like, wicked ambiguous)
Cobalt:
Can seemingly perceive or act through any living material. (The Tree. Cobalt instructed Larry to slap his hand on that tree, that shit glowed and he had a new deal tattoo without Cobalt ever having been physically present)
Can influence the resurrected by giving them a killing urge. Represented by an aberrant brainwave and a ringing in the undead's heads. This doesnt appear to be direct control- as the Grunk could clearly restrain himself from killing people that genuinely didn't deserve it (like nightly and cha cha, who WERE grunk event targets but not fatally so. Nagito was a crimson thing so it really doesn't count here. God poor grunk his life really is just a constant plaything in the hands of the gods huh) and Sephiroth very much had personal motivation to want to kill Folk. failsafe activates this ability on the scale of war.
Deals. The extent of what Cobalt can do with these is unclear but Iggy's god powers were taken from him as his part in the deal so what he can take isn't limited to physical things or things obviously related to his domain.
Weaknesses:
Deals. While this ability is impressive his preference for making deals for those that offend against his domain is potentially very exploitable- Larry's knowledge of the cure for death is, if word of it were to ever get out beyond Larry, wildly dangerous for this dimension, so technically the safest thing for the iron-fisted cobalt to do would be to nip the problem in the bud and get rid of him. But, fascinatingly, that wasn't even put on the table, the first thing Cobalt does is threaten J0hn, prompting Larry to make a deal. While Cobalt enforces death, he also doesn't like unnecessary death, and Larry demonstrably knows how to keep a secret for the good of the world even at great cost to himself and Cobalt is aware of this- easily clarifying to Larry the aberrant thing endangering the universe wasn't his timeloop business. So while he's clearly not letting his resurrection fuckery go unpunished, he's being pretty merciful when he doesn't have to be and from a strictly, brutally pragmatic perspective probably shouldn't be.
His control over the undead manifests as a ringing and an aberrant brainwave trackable by J0hn's equipment, and could probably therefore be accounted for and circumvented? J0hn has, wisely, largely sworn off fucking with people's brains after the sephiroth fiasco went So Wrong, So Very Wrong, Oh God Oh Fuck Someone Cool Almost Died, but if he hadn't, and if J0hn let his dislike for authority and keeping Larry safe outweigh reason like he let safety, spite and comedic value outweigh good ethical sense when reprogramming sephiroth, in theory Mr. 'hacked a time machine for breakfast?' could. y'know. probably do it. what is a god's authority to an anarchist, what better to challenge life and death than the cold and eternal machine, you get the point its a fun scenario
Olive Garden Breadsticks and Small Cute Dogs, apparently
Chartreuse's:
Time Clones: taps into parallel timelines to retrieve alternate versions of herself to utilize.
Time Travel: what it says on the tin. Travel to the past creates painful splits in the prime timeline, but through careful action and traveling back into the past, these can be weaved into a time loop. A split from the timeline is a wound, and a successful timeloop is the surgical scar it can become with attentive care, to use a medical metaphor. Carefully closed and healing. Keeping Folk here is essentially akin to chartreuse pulling out her stitches on the initial incision.
Time Stopping: creates a space wherein things that take time to complete cannot complete, where things can move, but everything within is in a perfect unchanging stasis until the bubble drops. This is the form her failsafe takes.
Timeline Creation: can create timelines from scratch.
Can fuse alternate timeline versions of the same individual to allow them to coexist. (Ryan's confirmed in the discord that Dantoinette experienced both failures in 20, because Chartreuse fused the two instances of her to save the post-raid instance from fading. Could... theoretically do this to Folk and save herself the pain, but while Folk and Therapuppy are the same person, there's seven years and untold amounts of difference deriving from the time and circumstance between them and the inherent cognitive dissonances that would result from attempting that would be wicked fucked up to inflict, and that's assuming there isn't some reason that it wouldn't be possible anyway. while the two Danis had like. A day or so's difference between them, so she could be safely fused with the only dissonant thing being that she remembers both being too slow to prevent order's time escape and beginning to dissipate post-raid, AND losing that fight to her pre-raid. RIP Dani, that perfectionism must be kicking her ass)
Weaknesses:
Unwilling to use her powers destructively in her pursuit of domain repair and thereby much easier to damage to the point of paralyzing her, making her particularly vulnerable to Power Theft
Morally Optimistic. At one point in 19, she briefly justifies Crimson's shitty evil actions to herself after experiencing for herself how Wack the kerfuffleverse is firsthand, ("and all he did was kill a couple people!" Chartreuse. Honey.) and when she fights Crimsonaut she seems to actually believe for a second that he's actually worried about her when Crimson asks if she's okay after he beats her. Additionally, as D+, she concerns herself with trying to understand doctor order's motive, and after Larry defeats Order, he makes a point of confirming she feels no remorse before making his request for what Chartreuse does with her, and appeals to the idea of letting Order fulfill her desire to be a god in a way which isn't a problem for anyone and Chartreuse is more than happy to oblige under these conditions after what Larry's done for everybody. Then immediately threatens to evaporate him for playfully teasing her about having a crush on folk. Fucked up a little bit
Crimson's:
Universe Shifting: Travel between universes.
Universe Correction: appears to replace an aberrant individual with the 'correct' version of themselves for that universe, presumably sending them back to their own. (Mario from super mario was universe corrected, but still seemingly exists in wario form as evidenced by smashup kerfuffle, and was simply temporarily replaced with his corrected universe counterpart. But like. The dimensional bus system is still active crimbo doing the Put That Thing Back Where It Came From Or So Help Me routine aint gonna work if they can come back with a shrug and bus fare. you're fighting the symptoms without treating the problem)
Universal Constants:
Three individuals per universe that serve as the pillars which stabilize said universe, created by absorbing red orbs Crimson creates. Becoming a constant grants power, but also makes the constant fragile, and death wipes them from the face of the multiverse, only crimson, those he's possessed and the other constants seemingly able to recall they ever existed, although some physical evidence is still left behind (Larry's record of Nagito's death, which is just as redacted as everything else relating to him but still is very much something Larry has. Kind of a Voidfish adventurezone type beat ironically enough? Taako really has seen all this shit before no wonder he peaced tf out)
To counterbalance the weaknesses the constants have, they have a sort of spidey-sense to alert them to danger, and an intrinsic bonded connection to their fellow constants, and additionally, Crimson apparently doesn't suffer any pain from the death of constants or the structural instability of a universe.
Possession: what it says on the tin! Seemingly can only be done with permission to living things- none of crimson's direct hosts seem to have entered that agreement unwillingly, Valentine lost a bet, Hamburger and Crimsonaut have been by all evidence intentional allies to Crimson- but electronics are fair game, as seen with The Guy's suit. Kinda curious how that rule applies to bitches that are half and half, like J0hn or the clonebot gang, as its unclear whether The Guy's suit was yoinkable without permission because it was mechanical or because its not sentient. could go either way but if it's the former that's potentially very frightening
Fusion: Two individuals from alternate universes can be fused into one shared body which can take on aspects of either depending on which is currently in control. (possibly allows someone who traveled into a given universe to become a fixed resident there without it being an issue for Crimson, whose job is to prevent interdimensional travel?) Monday Mark and possibly T.O.M. are our main examples.
Corruption:
Unpleasant As Hell and can even kill you instead of changing you if you cant handle it.
turns the corrupted individual into a twisted exaggeration of themself, allows them supernatural control over their shape, and makes them very difficult- if not impossible by traditional means- to kill, based on Garfield.
Subjects them to control by Crimson, but can be exorcised of this influence just like crimson's direct hosts can, although the supernatural changes to their physiology are seemingly permanent, judging from Shantae.
Notable Weaknesses:
Exorcism can be performed to free a possessed or corrupted individual of Crimson's influence. Its unclear how exorcism works/is learned in CPUK, but confirmed exorcists: dantoinette and yung papaya's snake dad, confirmed non-exorcists: folk
The universal constant orbs are physical objects so they are Very Stealable and they grant a power boost so theres literally an Incentive to beat his ass for anybody who wants to be strong and either doesnt know or doesn't care about the whole 'getting erased when you die' part
Crimson has lots of tools to create pawns, but all of them have drawbacks. Corruption could kill a potential pawn, possession generally seems to require permission, and he has no control over the constants' choices and actions
Manipulative bitch's highest stat is charisma and it shows. This motherfucker is selling snake oil. If he was mortal rather than a Whole Entire God he'd make an excellent ineffectual saturday morning cartoon supervillain and i think everyone, including him, would be happier for it, ngl
Something interesting ive realized that likely wasnt fully intentional, is that a lot of Dr. Order's creations, considering her motive, can kind of be sorted by a color god it appears to be a crude attempt at mimicking the abilities of. My Grunk is a poorly executed resurrection, the clonebot gang vs chartreuse's timeclones (this one deserves special mention because Chartreuse used this shitty attempted mimicry to her advantage with D+, very smart and ironic play, excellent job Treusy,) spirits are somewhat similar to universal constant orbs (orbs which can be absorbed to grant power, but which have physical repercussions- key differences being that spirits require activation and grow stronger while attuning to a user without being used, and having far less severe drawbacks, taking a heavy toll on the body, but only once they've worn off and without the risk of wiping yourself from the face of existence,) and she also augmented Perfect Spriteman and Larry, which kind of track as crude imitations of Crimson's corruption!
Garfield was an acerbic cat who loved food and hated mondays, now its an actively malicious ever-hungry amorphous entity whose only weakness is monday and whose only consistency in form is 'cat-like.'
Shantae was (to my extremely limited understanding of shantae,) a friendly heroic type who had to introduce herself often, and she became something akin to a biblically accurate angel that can *only* introduce herself.
The Grunks a tough but sweet and supportive single dad with stage presence and a tendency to fly off the handle when he or his family are slighted, and now he gets so hype in the audience when his son does well that he bursts into flames and ascends and we get random grunk events along with the associated murder charges when he gets mad and the target sucks enough that he doesn't hold himself back from killing them.
Perfect Spriteman and Larry fit the trend of exaggeration of already present traits- Spriteman fucking loves sprite and became something that only thinks about sprite, and Larry the Florida Man, characterized from minute one by unpredictability and who spent his first matches in the series pre-shapeshifter transformation staying alive keeping stocks for Shockingly Long even despite getting seventh, became literally physically random as well as developing the ability to regenerate, albeit with the ability to feel pain normally very much intact, unlike Garfield just... Soaking up damage like its nothing in his pursuit of Jon. The fact that Arbuckle legit defeated Garfield, even temporarily, is terrifyingly impressive honestly that dude is fucking built different for being so chronically bland
i dont think they're actually corrupted in any meaningful way we have to worry about, to be fully clear, Spriteman was cured with fucking antacids, i simply think they could be a fucked up attempt at making something that kind of seems like it from a functional standpoint, from the wannabe god doctor that brought us green clones whose only fundamental association with time was accelerated aging and who thought an actively rotting corpse thats just reanimated enough that it can throw hands was as good as curing death
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char-lotteral · 4 years ago
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I agree with Kishimoto never trying to use the girls. The hate they get is not fair. I used to defend Sakura back in the days because I hoped kishi would do her justice. When shippuden started I WAS SO HAPPY because I thought this was the start of something great for Sakura and the girls but NOOOOO. Every time, Sasuke showed kishi turned her brainless. If you compare Naruto's actions and Sakura's actions to sasuke, you'd see they're completely different. What's up with that weird fake love confession scene 😭? It makes her look like she was manipulating Naru. JEEZ.
Also he literally had badass Tenten and Temari with cool useful abilities and he didn't use them ?! TF ?! Thank god for modern authors who treat their characters with respect :)
okay2 you know how i am with these longass rants so click readmore and brace yourselves
The way I see it, Sakura's character development in shippuden was always one step forward, two steps back. She gets this really badass scene (like her fight with Sasori and those cool ass medical skills) but is then regressed back into a pining girl in love every time Sauce is on screen or Kishi just throws her in the background YET AGAIN.
I love Sakura's abilities actually. Her brute strength, intelligence, vast knowledge and skill as a medic nin. But what I dislike about her character is how kishi handled her feelings for Sasuke. Naruto and Sakura's obsession with Sasuke was so???? huh??? it was so damn toxic and i never once understood why both Nardo and Sak were so obsessed with him. They were a team for one year???? I mean its great that they care about him alot but Sauce's feelings were kinda valid. His freakin clan died. Id go batshit crazy against my own village too. BUT BESIDES THAT. Both Nart and Sakura's Sasuke obsession was so annoying. 80% of shippuden was literally Keeping up with the Uchihas or Naruto yelling SASUKEH. BUT what irks me so much is the fandom's double standards with both Naruto and Sakura. "Oh Sakura shouldve gotten over her Sasuke obsession" but then turn around and call Naruto's obsession cute and gush about how he's so in love with him!!
Hot take but the only reason why sasunaru is "the most developed ship with the most chemistry" is because theyre both male characters.
I guarantee you if Naruto was a girl and SHE would be the one to have this unhealthy obsession who was chasing around Sasuke, the fandom would shit on Naruto just as much. And if Sasuke were a girl, Sauce would be sidelined like the rest of the female cast and Naruto would have another male character to have a "brotherly bond" with, because thats the only bond Kishimoto is actually good at developing. Yey for male characters having all the screentime and cool assets <333
And about that confession scene, I get her intentions. I really do. I understand that she did that in order to bring him home and that she cares about him but honey, w-why?? Why lie to him about your feelings?? Supposed he DID believe her, then what? then what kishi???? huh??? Some of her fans point the blame on Sai or whatever but I personally dont see why that scene was at all necessary. Maybe to establish Naruto's feelings for her wasnt all that serious? or his maturity? idk man. That scene was such a clusterfuck.
In the end her development in The Last and in Boruto was immaculate. She had one of the best glow ups in the old gen and ironically enough, her character wasn't butchered in Boruto. She got badass scenes she was cheated from in shippuden. I also love how she's finally getting the spotlight she deserves. Unlike the other konoha 12 :,)))
Okay onto the next female character that Kishi completely wasted. My baby. My light. 🙈 AAAHHH HINATAA.
I DONT EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN OKAY2 DEEP BREATHS.
Let me just establish this real quick. Hinata's goal was to get stronger because of Naruto, her goal was never to be with Naruto. She wanted to become someone who is worthy enough to stand beside him, someone whom he can consider as an equal, as a partner. She NEVER once said "marrying Naruto-kun is my all time goal UwU" (if youre one of those weirdos who interpret her character that way, youre immediately invalid, go take a hike)
I personally dont have anything against their crushes but to the point of making their personalities revolve around these guys every time theyre onscreen is so fucking frustrating. And with the way he writes their dialogues is so.damn.cringey. Like that one scene in the war arc with Tsunade and Madara
"I mAy bE a WomAn but I aM nOt WeAAKKKK"
BAAHAHAAHHA WHAT?? Everyone else gets coolass monologues and one liners but thats the best you can come up with Kishi?????? Hilarious.
If im being honest. Hinata's character is actually kinda well written. Not well executed. Dear God no. But with the way he set her story, her personality, her chracterization. She's honestly one of the best written female characters on the show. IMO. By Kishi's standards of writing women ofc. She's hands down one of the most complex characters. Her shy personality wasnt out of the blue, it wasnt a cutesy waifu trait. Her abusive upbringing made her that way. Her trauma turned her that way. So yeah, sue her if she looked up to Naruto as an inspiration when everyone else in her family treated her like dust. Shit on her for having Naruto's love light in her dark when her own damn father wouldnt even look her in the eye and her entire clan shunned her because she was "weak." She doesnt owe her family shit so idgaf what they do with the Hyuga clan. Neji and Hanabi aren't included btw
Im not gonna deny that her role in the show was only as the love interest but tbh for a love interest, Im glad her character wasnt so one dimensional. It just pains me SO MUCHHH how fucking wasted she is. Every time she's with Naruto, they always make her into a damsel in distress. They always feel the need to turn Naruto into the heroic prince. How cute.
LIKE THAT ONE SCENE IN THE LAST WHERE SHE'S THROWN IN THE CAGE?? WHY??? LET NARUTO AND HINA FIGHT THAT FREAKING ALIEN GOD TOGETHER. QUIT WITH THE TOXIC MASCULINITY. WE GET IT. NARUTO'S STRONG. GOOD FOR HIM. NOW LETS SEE HINATA THROW HANDS AND PUT NARUTO IN THE CAGE GODAMMIT
Hnggggg dont get me started with her role in Boruto. She's as relevant as a damn houseplant in the manga. They made her into an invisible trophy wife and "the mc's mother" and we all KNOW what happens to the shounen mc's mother once mc is in need of character development :) Quit putting her in the background. Give us that scene where she won against Hanabi DESPITE being retired for years. Give us that scene where she trains Boruto. GIVE US ANY FIGHT SCENE OF HER WHERE HER POTENTIAL ISNT WASTED WTF?¿
Now if you say that Hinata didnt have development. YOURE INVALID. She came from an abusive household, the shyest girl in her class, her insecurities got in the way of her own confidence, had difficulty of standing up for herself now became a loving mother of two, has the guts to kick her husband out of the house(with whom she couldnt even keep eye contact with when she was a kid) became the strongest hyuga, most supportive wife and mother, and has given her kids the comforting childhood she never had as a kid.
She has one of the most beautiful stories in the show and if you think her personality is only Naruto-kun and big boobs, then im sorry that you cant appreciate such a heartwarming story.
And I agree, killing her would honestly make me feel more at ease than continue to see her suffer because of godawful misogynistic writers. But at least let her die in an epic fight. Please. PLEASEE. She got nerfed so bad, i feel a physical pain every time i think about it
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Okay what else. I think Ino got pretty good development. Another wasted potential in shippuden but she's doing good for herself in Boruto. I dont know what Temari is up to. They basically made her into another classic angry mom who beats up her husband for comedy trope. Haha very funny and original! Im not sure with her career, im not that invested in the anime.
Tenten??
oh G O D Tenten. The dirtiest of all. Her jokes about her screentime is so mean and i hate that its true ahsjhs. She was the only female character in OG who's goal wanted to be as strong as Tsunade but what did Kishi do to her?? Sidelined. Forgotten. Irrelevant. Like every damn female on the show :D
Konan shouldnt have died. I blame plot armor. I know in my heart that Konan wouldve kicked Obito's ass if it weren't for Kishi's boomer mindset.
Tsunade had so much hype when she was introduced but died down in the war arc. Madara wiped the floor with the kages. Holy shit. Not only that, but yipee! Naruto is there to save the day AGAIN!!!!
AND UGHHHH If the female characters were given proper treatment then maybe MAYBE all the endgame couples wouldve made fucking sense????¿¿¿
I think that ends my rant. Im not sure how the female characters in Boruto are handled. Except maybe Sarada (she's pretty well executed in the manga imo). But arguably they are sooo much better handled in Boruto than how the old gen girls were. And thats because Kishi isnt anywhere near the new gen female cast. I cant formulate a solid opinion with the other new gen female cast since im not entirely invested in the anime. Not ashamed to admit that I only watch it for the sunshine moments and for Hinata :DD
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verobatto · 5 years ago
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Destiel Chronicles
Vol. XLVI
It was a love story, from the very beginning
The Guilt and The Demon!Dean foreshadow
(9x14/9x15 and 9x17)
Hi my dears! Another meta from season 9, this is a very interesting one, talking about a funny mirror I found with the ghostfacers and Destiel, also a new foreshadow for what will come in season 10.
We will talk about Dean's guilt and a lot a foreshadows too for Demon!Dean and his summer love with Crowley.
I want to say thank you to my friend @agusvedder, she made the gifs for this meta, thank you girl!!
Okay, let's start...
Guilt and more Guilt
Episode 9x14 is all about GUILT. We have Dean talking with Ghost!Kevin, trying to ask for forgiveness, because his death is all over Dean's shoulders... He said it while he was trying to contact him.
DEAN: Kevin? Kevin. All right, I can't do this. Coffee-buzzing, bump-in-the-night crap. I got serious things to say to you, okay? And I'm not gonna say them to this.
[DEAN gets up and turns his back on the coffeemaker]
Kevin, I'm sorry. You did not choose this life. You busted your ass, you lost everything, everyone you've loved...
[[MORE]]
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This speech is yelling guilt the whole time. Is Dean trying to say every painful word that had been stabbing his heart and his mind since Kevin died. One of his huge, heavy bags on his back.
Then... We will have Castiel talking with Bartholomew, and again, this angel trying to bring the guilt on Castiel, the fault.
But before this... Bartholomew will try to recruit him... Castiel is not that kind of angel, the one who follows orders, so, Bartholomew can't barely understand what motives Castiel to keep fighting by his own...
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And this is a foreshadow for that famous quote from Metatron: IT WAS ALWAYS TO SAVE ONE HUMAN. TO SABE DEAN WINCHESTER.
That's why Castiel needs to keep fighting, and that's what Castiel feels is waiting for him, for his help. Is waiting to be saved, even if he doesn't feel he deserves it.
And then, the exposition of Castiel's sins, and guilts...
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But Castiel answered magnificently... And this proves he really grew up after being a human. He did what he had to to survive, because they are in war. But what he did... Doesn't define him.
The quote from Bartholomew WE FOLLOW ORDERS, is against Castiel's nature, and impress the huge difference between Heaven and Castiel.
Foreshadow of Demon!Dean/Crowley summer of love, and Castiel's finding another "new love"
Okay, we had a little scene in 9x14 between Sam and Dean...
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What a funny foreshadow of what will be Dean and Crowley's summer of love, Dean giving some credit to the Demon, as if it was the beginning of a great friendship.
And we had a very interesting Destiel mirror with Ghostfacers in episode 9x15 Thin Man.
If you watch the episode, it will look like if Harry and Ed were representing the current issue between Sam and Dean. Their fight because of Gadreel possession. But if you dig deeper... They're not just mirroring the brothers there...
First of all I want you to pay attention to the clothes changes in Harry. Harry will be our shapeshifter mirror. He will be mirroring Cas and Dean, and it will be easier for you if you hear his words and see his color coded dressing.
With that on mind... Let's check this scene...
ED: What did Dana post?
HARRY [turning his phone around to show ED a picture of a girl]
No, it's just -- she changed her profile pic, and it's cropped, (...)
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Okay, Dana mhm, is obviously making reference to Dean here... But Dean is with another man... Platonically?? That's a very funny word related to Destiel dynamic, but also... Dana/Dean is betraying... Harry dressed in BLUE COLOR (CASTIEL MIRROR), so, blatantly talking about what is about to come... Dean will betray Castiel with Crowley, but just platonically (🤣) so funny.
But this doesn't ends here... Because when Dean arrives... The dialogue between him and Harry (Castiel mirror) becomes very second meaning and flirty.
HARRY: Ahh, first of all, you guys don't scare us.
ED: Not at all.
HARRY [lifting his shirt to reveal a gun in his waistband] Say, "hola" to my little pistola.
DEAN: Am I supposed to be impressed with that treasure trail or the lady gun you got hiding in your, uh, pants there?
HARRY: Uh...Both?
Okay, this was for dirty minds, and we know who had a happy treasure trail, right? Hello sexy Mish.
And then we had this new reference to Dana again...
ED: Come on, man, would you please stop Facebook stalking your ex-girlfriend?
HARRY: I was right.
ED: Hmm?
HARRY: She changed her relationship status to "it's complicated." What does that even mean?
ED: Who cares? You broke up with her. Everything about that girl is complicated. Okay, I mean, she gets the cream puffs, she tells you to take out the filling. They're just puffs.
So Dean is complicated, and he will be in a complicated relationship with Crowley... Foreshadow again.
Now... Don't forget that ass slap to Harry/still Cas mirror dressed in blue, but now adding green and red to make reference to Destiel.
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May I add this was too gay? And how Agus marked me... Dean is hitting his lower lip like, excuse me sir?
Finally, we arrived to the big fight between Harry (dressed in red, toxic Dean, it means he is mirroring Dean now) and Ed.
This fight brought to elements... One the brothers fight we saw at the end of Road Trip, mostly when Ed confess he did it for Harry (to lie). And two... The break up will be between Crowley and Dean at the beginning of season 10... So... Pay attention to this dialogue, thinking we have toxic/demon!Dean/Dean mirror in Harry and Crowley mirror in Ed...
Who was the woman Harry/Dean was about to marry, the woman who he had a serious and deep relationship? Dana, now... This reference is linked to Castiel. Castiel is the safe love the unconditional love, the man who will always be there for Dean. The angel showed him that in Road Trip. He's his loyal partner. The love of his life.
Now... This...
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ED: Well, maybe it's not too late, you know? You could call her and see.
Okay, this just recalled me when Dean and Crowley broke up, Crowley went straight to give some stolen grace to Cas, to give Dean his ex boyfriend back.
HARRY: That's not gonna work.
ED: Well, maybe -- maybe it will.
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Okay!! And let's stop here... Remember in episode 10x03 when Dean was back to normal and Castiel entered in his room? And Cas just threw I HAVE A WOMAN ON MY CAR? And Dean's face was like WHAT DID YOU JUST SAID??
Ah okay, so... Because Dean had this live summer with Crowley, with empty promises and all... Now he lost Cas, who searched for another love interest? (Hannah?) So yeah... Now Dana is Cas. And yes, Cas said this because he wanted some revenge and make Dean a little jealous.
Okay but that is for season 10 Chronicles we will have to wait...
Foreshadow of Cas and Sam healing Demon!Dean
This is just a brief comment about episode 9x17 Mother's little helper.
This scene...
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Is a foreshadow of Sam facing his brother as a demon, Demon!Dean will act like a soulless evil, erratic and heartless.
This episode showed us an unrequited love and a sacrifice for that love, linked too to season 10 and how will Dean feel after becoming normal.
And because is talking about soulless people, is a foreshadow to Amara's plot too.
Sam releasing the souls is showing us he will be solving the way to bring his brother back at the beginning of season 10: again FAMILY LOVE (Sam) and ROMANTIC LOVE (Castiel) will save the day.
To Conclude:
Episode 14 talked about guilt as a central topic this season, but it began to show clues about Dean/Crowley dynamic in season 10, we had even Dean saying to Del (the demon) "Well, me and Crowley, we're -- we're tight now. Thick as thieves. Saw him just last month. We, uh, had a grand ol' time."
Episode 15 did the same with Ed and Harry as mirror shifters for Cas/Dean and Dean/Crowley. Talking us about a love triangle between CAS/DEAN/CROWLEY and DEAN/CAS/HANNAH.
Finally we had another foreshadow of how they will heal Dean at the beginning of season 10 in episode 9x17, when Sam released those souls.
I hope you liked this meta, see you in the next one!
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Vol. XL, XVLI, XLII, XLIII, XLIV and XLV
Buenos Aires 15th January 2020 5:32 PM
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adriennestar · 5 years ago
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F*ck you endgame. I've given it time but honestly I'll never not be mad about this.
Sometime after Steve goes back to the 40s
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Peggy: Steve what's your spirit animal?
Steve: *sweating* why?
Peggy: Just for fun ☺️
Steve: *guilty tone* ...ostrich
Peggy: Haha, why??
Steve: *opens up the encyclopedia, turns to ostrich, and points to this picture*
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Get it??!
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Seriously though, they really expect us to believe that Steve would just sit back and let all of the bad things he knows are going to happen unfold without doing ANYTHING to stop them, knowing full well he's more than able to??! Really?? Steve if-I-see-a-situation-headed-south-I-can't-ignore-it Rogers, would never. Even if he tried, he'd go absolutely stir crazy after just a month of "resting".
It's an alternate timeline! So he doesn't need to worry about closing a time loop because loops are not how time travel works in the mcu. Endgame establishes this many times through out it's runtime. But that's a can of worms I won't dig into in this post.
I understand that he doesn't have to stop every single bad thing from happening but he'd at least help the people he cares about, like Bucky (aka his best friend since childhood and literal soulmate).
His entire trilogy is about saving Bucky ffs. From the beginning, Bucky is Steve's most important relationship whether you ship them or not.
Also, saving Bucky would already eliminate half the problems that were going to happen because he would never have become the winter soldier who helped "shape a century". Not to mention at least a version of Bucky would have a chance at a life without 70 years of trauma. Nobody worthy of mjolnir would ever let somebody they care about suffer like that!
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Any ways, here's my head canon ramble:
In my head, endgame Steve didn't stay in the 40s. Instead, he retrieves and unfreezes his 40s self and that's the Steve we see dancing with Peggy at the end of the movie.
That at least seems fair, because 40s Steve is the person she had feelings for. Not endgame Steve who is 12 years older so therefore has been through more than his younger self and is a different person as a result.
And who knows, MAYBE after finally going on a few dates they figure out they're not that combatible and later on Peggy ends up marrying the person she married in the original timeline lol. But while that's happening, endgame Steve saves 40s Bucky and brings him home.
Finding out that Bucky survived the fall and suffered even more at the hands of Hydra, 40s Steve is furious. Both at Hydra for hurting Bucky and even more at himself for feeling responsible for that. He mentally kicks himself for not at least going back to get Bucky's body after he watched him fall. His drive to keep fighting until all of Hydra is dead or captured is reignited and he embarks on a mission through SSR/SHIELD to completely eradicate Hydra. With Peggy's help he succeeds. They also eliminate the red room and keep Hydra from infiltrating SHIELD.
After saving 40s Bucky, endgame Steve makes another stop to the 2010s and gets a few things 😉. He returns to his original timeline just a few seconds after he himself was meant to return after returning the stones. He sets his "time turner gps" for him to be sitting on the bench. That's why he appears so suddenly their. After passing the new shield to Sam, he takes Bucky to a private room and peels off his wig and the face tech that Natasha used in Winter Soldier to make herself look old from his face. He let's Bucky know that he really is retiring and where he'll be staying if Bucky wants to find him.
Bucky visits Steve many times. The first few times, they talk casually and joke lightly about how alien it feels to adjust to a new century. Then they talk about the war and their other traumas; about how they are both changed forever because of them. Many tears are shed as they revisit these painful memories but they help each other through the pain and heal together.
Finally they talk about the old days before the war, about how happy they made each other. It seems like everything since then has changed except their bond. It's still the only thing that makes them feel safe in a way that feels like home. They knew from the moment that bond was made back in their youth, it was unbreakable. So, they stay together, until the end of the line, like they swore they would.
I also have the image of young retired Steve secretly helping with future missions from the sideline 😁.
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I'll say this a million times. Endgame Steve deserves a happy ending. He deserves to settle down, live a peaceful life. He's been fighting for so long that perhaps he has forgotten who he is without a fight. Losing his family/home (Bucky) probably played a huge part in that.
We all have our battles to fight whether they're on a literal battlefield or in society, but family helps to keep us anchored during tough times.
Steve had to watch his family die, twice.
Steve retiring in his present (the 21st century) where he doesn't know what the future holds, is much better than him running away to the past and burying his head in the f*cking sand to all the suffering he knows is going to happen to the people he loves. Again, nobody worthy of mjolnir would take the second option.
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I know that endgame was forever ago but I have a fix it fix coming soon!
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