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Selena Gomez replying to random instagram comments defending herself and her boyfriend is the level of Aries Moon pettiness, defensiveness, showing idiots their place and just plain eagerness to show the middle finger is what I LOVE to see
#sure it's her cancer sun as well#petty and defensive#a bit butthurt cause if it didn't bother her she wouldn't bother to reply either#but as an aries moon myself i'm stoked to see it#because i'd be the same#i hate when stangers think they know better when it comes to famous people#because social media has made people think they have literal rights to celebrities#as if they are their properties#monkey do the dance kind of thing#so i'm glad she's like fuck it and claps back lol#astrology#random
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I like tall-man!Chilchuck a normal amount (´・ω・`)
#delicious in dungeon#dungeon meshi#chilchuck tims#laios touden#laichil#chilaios#special appearances from smolcille and inutsumi#I said I'd draw tallchuck in situations and by god I drew him in situations#this was supposed to be ready closer to the dumplings episodes but I kept redrawing parts of this#because these were from sketches accrued over several weeks and I kept changing how I drew tall chil lmao#was debating if this would be funnier in multiple posts or one#but I think one post best captures my downward spiral <3#art#all four pages were on the same 19072 x 29447 file and my pc would freeze with each save DO NOT repeat this
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There's a fic I've been (slowly) working on that features Kirk being just about the Only person on the ship who can read Spock's expressions, simply because he Likes Spock (not even romantically at first, he just sees Spock and goes, 'friend-shaped <3'.) and therefore pays attention, where he winds up being like. a Spock-interpreter for everyone else. (Captain, is he mad at me?? Captain, are my questions annoying him? Captain, did he like my joke? Captain, I feel like Spock hates me. etc.)
and the reason I bring this up is because I think there's a lot of potential in a Different version of this, where Kirk is still the only one who can read Spock's emotions, but this time, it's because they managed to spontaneously bond like. immediately. and neither of them realize this for a good while, because what are the odds that you're So Compatible with someone that your minds just Instantly glue themselves together? They're astronomical, that's what they are.
Except, a year or three into the mission, Spock discovers the bond. and panics. and blocks it. Of course he does! It's an egregious breach of telepathic etiquette! (Or, it would be, if he'd done it on purpose.) He has No Idea how long it's been there - he assumes it must be new. And, once the bond is blocked, by a Spock who is absolutely swamped with shame that he could let that happen to his own captain and dear friend, Kirk suddenly. cannot read Spock's emotions. And then he panics, because ohmigod i can't read him is he mad at me what did i do does he hate me???? (everyone else on this ship is baffled. they're like 'his face has literally not changed?? what do you mean you can't read him now??)
and eventually, they figure out what happened, and that they love each other, and then restore the bond to its original state and kiss and what not. but they angst about it for a bit first, and possibly have to get their heads slammed together by bones before that happens.
#'well fool why can't you write both?' you ask? well. simple enough. i think i'd have a hard time making them distinct from one another#and it would frustrate me to just write the same thing twice. i want to write Different fics.#besides i've got way too many plot bunnies as it is. can't handle more#the first idea has more of a chokehold on me so that's the one i've been writing.#also note that this is not the fic that's almost done. that's a different fic. because i'm incapable of working only on one thing. rip.#tos#star trek tos#star trek#spirk#spock#james t kirk#k/s
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Legend has it if you listen to this soundcheck on repeat it will clear your skin, water your crops, and cure your depression. I hope this heals all of you like it has healed me.
#sleep token#vessel sleep token#vessel#song take me to church#take me to church#hozier#hozier cover#hozier take me to church#okay the caption is cheeky but this is pretty amazing#i wish the audio was better/longer but this was recorded outside a venue on a cellphone#the mp4 is in my google drive#in the rituals folder#it's literally a 30 second video of a wood door#but you can see the videographer get excited and thats kinda cute#because i'd be the same way fam#i wish i knew who actually recorded this so i could give proper credit#but its one of those things that's been passed around like crazy on the down-low#i know the person who *claims* to have recorded it is from ny or nj#so this might be from september 10th this past na rituals tour#i couldn't find this door on google maps#but i also couldn't get around to the back of the building to be 100% certain#i also tried checking union transfer the palladium and rams head live! but had no luck there either#if anyone has any more info on this soundcheck or the unedited video#(you can see and sort of hear it jump at the first “i'll tell you my sins”)#please please please tell me
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Lan Wangji Goes To Lotus Pier AU: Part 4.5: Morning Period.
(Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5)
#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#lan wangji#wei wuxian#jiang cheng#mdzs au#Yunmeng Jiang training arc AU#This is 4.5 because it was originally all supposed to be part of the same comic#This part wasn't as punchy and I was close to scrapping it but I figured I'd at least give it a chance.#Despite the fact I already had it in pencils...cleaning it up took a very long time. Still hate it. Sunken cost fallacy enacted: It lives.#Okay quick commentary (I'm very late to post today)#While this is supposed to be a 'snapshot' of routine - Wei Wuxian slept in. Normally he is up earlier.#Meaning he delayed the dueling part of the day. Hence LWJ's hand gesture.#I also imagine that LWJ and JC have a bit more of a friendship in this AU since they spend a few hours in the morning sans WWX#I always enjoyed how JC and LWJ on paper seem like they would get along but Do Not in canon. Let me have a world where they do.
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Happy Moon Festival! 🌕
there's a bunch of holidays today, Mid-Autumn Festival, Tsukimi, Chuseok and more! all dated on the day of the brightest full moon!
and since i had some time, i thought i'd draw all my moons and some yummy festival sweets (all prepared by chef Moon of course!)
some intros to all the moons and the dishes below the cut
some intros:
Moonie's from my chibi AU, "Rain or Shine". a rambunctious little guy who loves playing with his Sunny
Moondrop's from my hairdresser AU, "New 'Do, Same You". a Moon in a glamrock-style casing, who's pretty chill but insecure
Mooncake's from my restaurant AU, "Have You Eaten?" a hopeless romantic chef who loves cooking yummy foods!
13's from my dystopian AU. he's a sheltered, naive little Moon bot who is curious to learn about the world outside the palace
Miel is from my idol AU. she's an ex-Moon bot, turned nanny bot, turned rapper of an idol duo (she sings too tho!)
and the menu:
tsukimi dango are plain Japanese dumplings made of rice flour and glutinous rice flour, resembling the full moon
mooncakes are Chinese treat with various skins and fillings, but traditionally they are a pastry filled with lotus seed paste and a salted duck egg yolk to resemble the full moon
songpyeon are a Korean rice cake with various types of fillings—red beans, dates, sesame seeds, honey, and more!
#fnaf moon#fnaf dca#dca fandom#Moon Rain or Shine AU#Moon New Do Same You AU#Moon Have You Eaten? AU#13 dystopian AU#Miel idol AU#crab art#digital art#bright colours#all my moons 🥰#Mooncake is glowing because himbo Moondrop is lifting him up like he weighs about 3 grapes#boi i'd be glowing too#funny thing is#Moondrop and Moonie can't eat#so the other three will have to eat everything#or invite their Suns and Eclipses#i really gotta draw my suns and eclipses some time#this was fun#admittedly the Moons are the most chill around each other#the Suns are mixed bag but they'd be congenial together#the Eclipses...#they get a little chaotic ���#all the my Eclipses are different levels of extreme#extreme silly extreme flirty extreme danger extreme handsome#i love them all 🥰
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@spidey-loving-starkid said: Good Morning Judge Sokka?
Color Palettes Here
FUN FACT. Following a massive mental breakdown I had in March 2021 that set me back months of art progress, I completely stopped using a lineless style and never looked back. Tonight I decided fuck it, it’s been two years. Might as well give it a shot. This feels like absolution
#atla#avatar the last airbender#sokka#atla fanart#illustration#there are two more of these queued#figured I'd do them in separate posts instead of all together#because it feels weird to put multiple illustrations in the same post y'know#em draws
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i'm surprised i haven't seen any text posts yet about the Unsubtle Differences between astarion’s tiefling party/high approval forest scene and the one you get after the goblin party.
there’s something so terribly interesting about how the conversation afterward plays out depending on which variation you pursue.
like, most people have seen the tiefling party version by now. astarion basking in the sunlight the morning after, playing off most of what tav says with relative ease, even when they ask about his scars and he tells them about cazador. his cadence is smooth and composed, his smile almost friendly, even though you know, as the viewer, he’s playing a game of manipulation at this point. the only real crack in his demeanor is if tav notices that cazador’s “poem” was written in infernal, which, understandably, startles him.
but recently i watched the goblin party version of this same scene, and everything reads so differently. unlike at the tiefling party, it’s still the middle of the night when astarion tries to leave, thinking tav is asleep—almost immediately after the act, in fact. when tav does speak to him, he’s visibly nervous, halting and stammering in the middle of lines delivered unflinchingly in the other version of the scene. he gestures broadly and fidgets more while talking, his smile comes and goes. there’s even some of his distinctive high pitched, fake laughter sprinkled throughout the exchange, almost identical to later scenes where he's very, very obviously uncomfortable (like if raphael mocks him and magics off astarion's shirt to show the party his scars in act 2, or when confronting the gur children in their cell in act 3, etc etc).
siding with the goblins represents something deeply familiar to astarion, a level of cruelty he's more than familiar with and embraces likely because cruelty and duplicity, to him, go hand-in-hand with the power and freedom he craves so badly—but he won't stay the night with this tav, even if he approves of their actions. no, in this case, he'll keep to what's familiar and attempt to leave them in the forest under the cover of the very same darkness he resents having been cast into by cazador. when he gets caught, it sets him on edge, and everything he says becomes such a blatant lie to save face that tav would have to be completely oblivious not to see through him, or maybe just not care enough to.
but if tav saves the refugees? challenges his worldview and comes out victorious? oh, he'll complain of the poor rewards for his trouble at the party and whine about it being boring, but he decides to stay with tav through the night while they're asleep and on past dawn. he takes a moment to enjoy the morning sunlight, returned to his life after two centuries without. the same is true if you have high enough approval that he asks before the party, in which case, you've almost certainly hit his biggest approval gains: trusting him and supporting his safety. maybe he doesn't trip over his words when he speaks because, well, maybe this is someone he doesn't have to worry about. someone who's already more than proven themselves a foolish, heroic sort with a bleeding heart or otherwise demonstrated that they're already in his corner. in other words, not a threat—at least not to him.
does any of this make sense. i wanna study this guy under a microscope.
#the text may be the same but the line delivery is so enormously different it HAS to mean something idk! idk!#what he knows best but doesn't quite trust vs what's new but seems almost safe seems like the differentiating factor honestly#at least in whether he decides to leave tav immediately or stay with them till morning#which in turn affects how he feels by the time tav speaks to him#not to rag on the goblin route but man#he seems. well. frantic when he gets caught trying to leave asap.#to the point where listening to him feels... pretty bad imo#i'd love to know if it changes his romance later on because that seems like. well. a rough start#astarion#astarion bg3#astarion ancunin#bg3 spoilers#baldur's gate 3#bg3 meta#sort of idk#long post
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This little NPC is lost. The Narrator [Black] has come to guide her back to where she needs to be. [Blank Scripts AU]
I imagine Black would be a lot more tolerant toward his NPCs since they're basically just the Dungeons spawns, and by extension, his own creations.
[If you're familiar with manhwas / manhuas that features the dungeon / system genre, you'd be able to understand this AU a lot easier. The majority of my inspiration for worldbuilding came from those specific genres.]
[NOTE: 'Dungeon' is just another term for the Parable. Technically, Black owns a Dungeon and the Parable is just a small part of it. The Dungeon itself is much, much larger.]
For context, the comic below references this post about the Dungeon's children/guard dogs.
[They're more like the immune system since all they do is make sure the (body) is safe.]
[The reason the Narrator [Black] considers them his children is that the Dungeon is feeding off his energy and in turn shares the 'nutrients' to the monsters it produces, which transforms them into an image that resembles his power.]
And the old man below is Joseph!
Joseph is NOT AN NPC! He is a person who exists outside of the Dungeon!
[There are two separate 'worlds' for this AU. Inside the Dungeon (where most of the game-like stuff is happening) and the world outside (pretty much their normal world.)]
[There is a secret third world, and that's our world. Our reality.]
These characters are not actually important or anything, I just made them to make the AU feel more lively. To make a world that exists, you know?
When the Narrator [Black] first established himself in their world, he found a growing problem with homelessness. Not understanding human norms or why this has become a problem in the first place, he offers (tricks) them into working for him as janitors for the Dungeon and they accept for the money.
Most of them left after they got paid, but Joseph was one of the people who stayed. He doesn't have anywhere else to go and has no ambitions in life. He just wishes to live a peaceful life with food and a roof over his head.
Joseph defaults to referring to the Narrator [Black] with feminine terms due to his appearance despite his voice. The Narrator [Black] is not the type to care for such terms anyway so he doesn't care how other people refer to him as long as there's respect.
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This post focuses more on the worldbuilding and background aspects of the AU! There are a lot more in store for the Blank Scripts AU, and I want to explore more on how the characters might interact with their surroundings and how this would work to make a world that makes sense.
It would be so cool if people made self-inserts or OCs for my AU actually. I'd love to see how you guys would work with my stuff. Play around with it like a barbie world for your little barbie dolls. Be canon compliant, be canon divergent, who cares, have fun.
#tsp blank scripts au#I REALLY HOPE I'M MAKING SENSE HERE#this AU is genuinely so big in my head#I barely know how to navigate my way around it to show bits and pieces to my audience little by little so that you get what's up first#before I just dump a truck-full of lore on top of you and expecting you to just understand what the heck I'm on about#because I'm pretty sure if I don't introduce you to the world first you're just not gonna understand what's going on half of the time#let's take it slow okay? sorry if some of these posts come off as boring#I just really love this AU and I'd love to show it to you in a presentable and palatable way so that we can both be on the same level of-#-understanding this AU together#you know what I mean?#and also because I just wanted some background/side characters interactions#tsp au#tsp oc#the stanley parable#the stanley parable ultra deluxe#tsp#tspud#tsp narrator#narrator tsp#my drawing museum
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Pac: I can't keep doing this, I can't do this– [Laughs] I can't do this anymore— What is this, man?!
If you didn't see Pac suffering in Sims earlier today, here's a (translated & subtitled) compilation of some silly Sims Hideduo moments that made poor Pac look like he was questioning all his life choices.
#Pactw#Hideduo#FitPac#The “😬” face Pac makes 56 seconds in after realizing he may have pissed off Fit's Sim makes me laugh#(especially because of what happens next)#Thank you to @Elevann__ and @MaguinhaLee on Twitter for being my second (and third) pair of eyes and checking my translations!#I need to ask Twitter folks for translation help more I just sort of. Forget#I'm always more inclined to ask Tumblr folks for help because I trust our little community more#but alas we are mostly an English-speaking community#I also feel a bit bad bothering the same people for translation help again and again#But I always do appreciate the folks who reach out and offer help!#I'd like to do more French stuff but I haven't had time to watch many streams or VODs#I'll get to it... eventually...#Pac#June 13 2024#Edited#Translated#Subtitles#Portfolio
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the sounds of muffled screaming is me fangirling into my pillow with a big sheepish grin on my face.
#the x files#fox mulder#dana scully#i love it how scully just came around to be flirty and giggle like a school girl around mulder in this episode#because gurl same if i had someone like that i'd do that too#and i have to say i love the relationship between the alien baseball guy and the cop i genuinely shipped them#now don't tell me their relationship was meant to mirror scully and mulder's#i love this episode so much#season six is feeding me well#david duchovny#gillian anderson
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Act 3 (But why did they look so...?)
We finally got to the comic that actually made me think about this AU in the first place. After I was mulling around the idea of Loop looking like Siffrin the whole time, I realised that the conversation of "who or what do you think I am?" doesn't apply anymore. But you know what would?
The question of why Loop is even here in the first place. Because while it's nice to have another you around to help you out of the loops, isn't it weird that they're even here? Who sent them?
... and what was with their response?
#In Stars and Time#ISAT#ISAT Spoilers#ISAT Siffrin#ISAT Loop#ISAT AU#two coins same side au#comic#illustration#digital art#artists on tumblr#fan art#the creativity process#TCSS AU#id in alt#cw eye contact#tw eye contact#if it was actually in-game i'd imagine siffrin gets the One chance to answer and thats it#but i wanted to show some of the few options siffrin could potentially say without showing ALL of them#basically the choices still follow beat for beat as the who/ what am i convo (except for the ghost answer which wouldn't be there)#though loop's answers are different (please ask me about em its too long to put in the tags)#but yeah. loop would Not take the correct answer well because. yknow#they did Technically make that wish huh. and i guess in that sense they Did want to help siffrin#but that doesn't take the hurt of thousands of loops away now does it?#especially when you're helping a copy of yourself escape. loop canonically does not take it well after all.#EDIT: accidentally bungled the pronouns for the change god!! it's been fixed now!!
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You know I'll be first to point out if/when Crocodile does a little Luffyism, so let's take a moment to appreciate it when Luffy does a little Crocodile-ism;
Like Luffy may be a silly lil goofball, but as he's said many times himself, he's always serious (in combat). And so Fujitora laughing at Luffy right in his face, when they're in battle and Luffy is completely dead serious... Yeah, the way he takes it like an insult gives Crocodile
#Moon posting#OP Meta#Crocodad#Same with Luffy getting angry at Kaidou when he got drunk mid-battle#To be fair there's probably more examples of this exact kind of gag#(Kumadori taking A Little Snack in the middle of the Enies Lobby fight. Or Chopper fucking around with Franky's hair.)#(Sanji vs Wanze probably had something like that too that I'm kinda forgetting)#So this isn't like inherently Crocodad Propaganda it's just a type of gag Oda does often#But I'm here to spin it as if it were Crocodad Proof because I have an Evil Agenda to push and propaganda to spread teehee#I did finally finish rereading Dressrosa and I have some Thoughts I'd love to share but. I have work to do so IDK when I'll get around to i#(But it's about Luffy's feelings about Rebecca reuniting with her dad)
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snakeman luffy
#monkey d luffy#one piece#my art#op snake god au#described in alt text#i wuv snake ppl so fucking much you have No idea#when i was a kid a teacher told us a story about a king? whose wife told him he wasnt allowed to look at her when she bathes but he#got curious after a while and looked only to find out she was half snake and he ran away. and!! my whole 7yo self was so confused because#if i had found out my wife was half snake i'd be so happy!! anyway ive been meaning to draw him as a snake for a while now and finally did#it! i wish we had a snaketember the same way we have mermay i'd be so happy fr
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in defense of kabumisu……..
addressing things I see people say about why kabru being shipped w mithrun is ‘bad’ or why their canon relationship ‘doesn’t mean anything’ while also clearing up misconceptions of the characters some fans have
listen it keeps popping up and I just gotta do this or my brain will melt (if you don’t see it around then god I wish that were me) there’s an age gap!- erm there’s also an age gap in farcille (ily), the most popular ship in the series...also chilchuck looks like a kid but a lot of fans recognize him as a dilf because of his relative age, so there should be no age gap discourse among adult characters because it feels so conditional tbh
kabru taking care of mithrun is racist!- marcille likes to take care of others as well. is that sexist, or just an aspect of her character?
kabru isn’t treated like a servant, waiting on mithrun hand and foot…I mean he gives mithrun a foot massage but no one told him to do all that lmfao
he's also not the only one to care for mithrun. pattadol is shown to worry for him and milsril was the one to start taking care mithrun in the first place after he…...y’know. speaking of which-
they probably met when kabru was a kid!- neither of them showed signs of recognizing each other the entire time mithrun was introduced nor when they were together. and im pretty sure KABRU of all people would show some kind of recognition if they'd met before. it's kabru!!! the people person!!! mr. "i-noted-down-50+-characters-in-this-dude's-backstory-for-fun-and-actually-enjoy-social-gatherings"
you would think some kind of memory would come back to him especially after hearing mithrun’s backstory if milsril had even told kabru about him as a kid. but nope. it’s just fan speculation unless there's a side comic suggesting otherwise that i haven't seen
mithrun doesn't care about kabru, his shapeshift double looked like shit!- it's obviously because of mithrun's (then) lack of desires that it looked like that, but they really grow on each other
i think it's safe to assume it'd look more like kabru after they spent so much time together (also laios can barely even remember kabru's name..also saw his face multiple times and didn’t recognize him when they talked for the first time)
mithrun is racist!- he’s actually the least likely character to be racist since he lost his desires and that includes a desire for superiority over others. he even calls his past self out on that part of himself. the other elves in that side comic were being just as racist to shorter lived races but just didn’t use ‘outdated slurs’
(unfortunately literally every main character in dunmeshi is at least a lil prejudiced, but I believe it’s worldbuilding and a sign of the times rather than a reason ryoko kui is giving to hate each character)
taking care of others is a pain in the ass!- saying this as a reason kabru and mithrun shouldn't be together is basically saying disabled people shouldn't be allowed to have romantic relationships because they're a "burden"...if someone is actually willing to put in the work, then let them be.
that's not even all of their relationship, mithrun is the fighter of their duo and kabru would've been killed by the shapeshifter or something if he'd fallen down the hole on his own since he sucks at fighting monsters. mithrun helps collect ingredients for cooking every time, too (barometz fruits and griffin egg). he pulls his weight and then some!! i feel like people forget that part of mithrun a lot somehow.
+senshi literally cooks for everyone all time. it's kind of an important aspect of the narrative.
+also, while it is a popular fan thing I see around that kabru handfeeds mithrun, he literally never does lol this is mithrun using his own hands to eat:
also here we have him washing his own body
just saying because people like to treat mithrun like a baby even though the narrative respects him as a capable adult who also has special needs because of an accident. he’s captain for a reason
kabru hates taking care of mithrun!- not exactly, he was initially surprised and put off but got used to it quickly. i’m sure he’s grateful for all the times mithrun saved him from a monster and teleported them out of danger as well
he even starts doing “unnecessary” things for mithrun’s comfort and safety like when mithrun pushes himself too hard fighting, even after his mission to take care of him was complete when the canaries came back
here is even kabru resting while mithrun keeps watch (mithrun let him sleep for 5 hours before waking him up from the nightmare earlier, too):
there's nothing more to their relationship!- they actually have had a very tight and consistent dynamic since they met and they incite the most change within each other by the end. kabru is the one who inspires mithrun to create new desires so he doesn't waste away, and mithrun is the first person we see kabru being genuine with and it leads him to be more honest with others by the end instead of tiptoeing around everyone all the time (that mask was also the reason some ppl initially disliked kabru…)
kabru’s relationship with mithrun is honestly so important for his character and vice versa, but it’s often disregarded because of one over exaggerated aspect of it (an aspect that isn’t even the first way they interact with each other) or because people want to just straight up ignore it for some reason 🥲🥲
kui dedicates many panels to them that don't particularly serve the narrative as a whole in order to demonstrate this and i think that's pretty significant
you're taking this too seriously!- as if i'm the first person in the world to be crazy about a ship or the characters 😭 i love analyzing text and it's upsetting to see them mischaracterized when kui lays out the characters so clearly and deliberately
also they end up touching each other like all the time and have the kind of canon validation most ppl can only dream of lol i feel so insane look at this:
and this is just when they're first getting to know each other cuz there's a fuckload more
kinda hard to explain how i don't actually need them to get married or whatever but i'd die on this hill for them and i enjoy their dynamic immensely
haha you thought you were reading ship discourse but it was actually a character analysis 🤪🤪🤪
also don’t somehow take this to mean I think anyone has to ship them, I just need everyone to understand these accusations kind of don’t make sense especially when they can also apply to other pairs or characters
bonus kabru just looking at mithrun:
#dungeon meshi#kabumisu#kabru of utaya#mithrun#dungeon meshi spoilers#i'd rather be able to enjoy their dynamic without feeling like i have to explain it but i keep seeing the same takes i cant do this anym-#i feel like i advocate for kabumisu so much because i see so many people mischaracterizing kabru to make l4bru work like how they want#by saying he’s obsessed w laios because he thinks he’s hot..but he was curious about his autistic behavior and eventually thought his lack#of malice would make laios the best candidate for becoming dungeon lord to prevent another utaya tragedy. tho eventually he doubts that#not that i care that he's shipped with laius. i just want ppl to see kabru for who he IS bc some still think hes nothing but a shady bicth#i think that's best shown through his dynamic with mithrun (other than his own words of course) so i want ppl to acknowledge it properly#like idk if I can trust popular fan interpretations of the characters or relationships anymore after the shit with toshiro bro 💀💀#not trying to attach kabru’s entire being to mithrun or anything either just..saying#hm i feel like the way i worded all of this will make some ppl mad. not my intention but whoops#anyways has anyone drawn ship art of senshi and mithrun yet? anyone?
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personally i think katara is completely within in her right to be angry at and never forgive the man that killed her mother and in turn zuko is also within his right to be angry at and never forgive his abusers who gaslit manipulated scapegoated maimed banished and tried to kill him multiple times and neither of those things would make katara and/or zuko lesser than or bad people
#just a little hot take for ya there#holly talks bs#zuko#katara#zutara#yes i'm talking about azula too#zuko has no obligation to forgive or take responsibility for azula after everything#and yes this would still be the case even IF azula ever gets that fabled redemption arc#personally i'd like to see an azula redemption tackled that's almost entirely divorced from zuko/iroh/the gaang#because forgiveness from those you've victimised and redemption/atonement aren't actually the same#for instance zuko HAD already redeemed himself by the time of tsr#katara's personal forgiveness of him was a connected but nonetheless separate issue from his redemption they had to deal with between them
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