#because everyone was talking abt how it was a 'happy ending' for dani like she didnt just get inducted into a violent cult
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disconnected-dragon Ā· 1 year ago
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yknow I really didn't think it was possible to make me angrier at JK Rowling but then I found out she wrote a book abt an autistic person being sucked into a cult (that's totally not an analogy for trans people what you talking abt) because they just can't possibly know what's good for them, they need their fathers to come and hire private investigators to get them out of a cult. And in the book autistic people are referred to by the r slur and called "a bit simple".
I didn't think it was possible for me to hate this paternalistic, honeyed head-patting, self-righteous, hate-driven HAG of a woman more than I did but fuck me here we are.
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crimsonandcloverwrites Ā· 3 years ago
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bhah ch3 reread u know the drill
what is Jamie doing with all this oil I am concerned
god the tension of knowing Jamie is there but not talking to her but Dani probably secretly hoping she will
aww is she picking up more wonder woman comics for mikey?? cute
gah I love that they slip back into playful banter so easily despite everything going on
also 10/10 that the gays in town would be trying on the tackiest sunglasses in the service station (and 12/10 that Jamie actually brought them)
Dani Carson car adventures!! i would read a whole 20k word chapter just on that
sdfkjdshjfhd Dani throwing herself to the ground when she sees Jamie in the supermarket Iā€™m losing it
ā€œYeah and then she leftā€ ouch
THREE GAYS IN A SUPERMARKET WHAT WILL HAPPEN
aww Jamie Carson reunion tooooo cute
oh my god the tension of them standing back to back trying not to touch lmao
Jamie rly is the teeniest in town huh
Dani getting all protective and mad over Mikey having to sit outside school is v sweet
Jamie to the rescue how cute
Jamieā€™s collarbone: hello. Daniā€™s gay panic: LOOK AWAY
also sdkjfhdkjhg Jamie working w her hands is so hot we need more fics just talking about her getting dirty. for the good of the nation
there is so much going on here the cute teasing Dani feeling all weird abt their whole dynamic jamie giving her looks the engagement ring I am not equipped to process all of it
ā€œyou think there are secrets in this town?ā€ just ur burning love for each other ladies!
once again mechanic!jamie... i am compromised
aww Dani bby literally does not know what to do with herself. the juxtaposition of the depth of their relationship and the little moments of familiarity with the awkwardness of people who donā€™t really know each other properly anymore is so fucking well done here
Eddieā€™s ā€œhoney Iā€™m homeā€ moment carrying her over the threshold afkjhsdkjf good for him
Dani and this house got beef huh
Dani: sometimes things with Eddie just donā€™t feel right but Iā€™m sure thatā€™s fine. Dani when she loses a tiny piece of her relationship w Jamie: level 5 meltdown. Literally the theme of this fic is ā€œhoney you got a big storm cominā€ and I love it
this dig at pineapple on pizza........ offensive
ā€œInstead, she reset her mask, pulled the rope to part the stage curtains, and tied the other end around her neck.ā€ Jesus.
ā€œthe other part of Dani, the part that never knew how to stop missing Jamieā€ i will cryyyy
starting a gofundme for Daniā€™s car asap
Eddie putting the moves on I canā€™t look. but lmao when he finds a girl thatā€™s actually into him and wants this kind of attention his whole world is gonne be rocked
can we get Dani some therapy pls this is not how u should feel abt the person ur gonna marry. or about yourself
*gasp* the wontons mixtape
hmmmm Iā€™m Not in Love and A Case Of You really are a one-two punch huh
lol I just went to play them and I was apparently in the middle of listening to Stop Making This Hurt by The Bleachers which feels... apt
fuck. making a mixtape for someone truly is peak romance huh? music my beloved
hmmm i just realised that this timeline parallels the flashback chapters w a new Taylor in school in each how cool. and also Nan vs Jamie taking on responsibilities w these kids and stepping up for them in their own way pls my emotions
aahh the coffee date I kinda forgot how fast Dani made this relationship rekindle bless her
wait clara and horace does that mean abigail is in Daniā€™s class too??? she lives??
a reserved sign pls thatā€™s so cute
OWEN! god I love the levity and banter w Jamie he brings to fics
there is just so much fondness between them it always shines through no matter what theyā€™re talking about I love it
this backpacking chat... envisioning Dani n Jamie once Mikey is grown up going on a big tour of europe together n fufilling Daniā€™s dreams
the fact that Jamie was drawn back to this place... by what hmmmm ms taylor. by what
oof this really is a painful rehashing of the past huh.
ā€œstar hikeā€ lmao
"I can fix it." "You can't." OUCH
ooft just rip the bandaid right off. ā€œI missed you. Everyday.ā€ god my heart
arguing in an alley behind the pharmacy thatā€™s gay rights
"Because if it was going to end, then I wanted it over quickly!ā€ jamie ā€˜everyone always leaves so I cut them off before they can hurt meā€˜ taylor everyone. I am not doing well
ok with the context of like... everything from the future chapters this scene hits even harder than the first time i read it jesus
still canā€™t get over Dani ā€˜trying not to recall the memories of the last time they were in this room togetherā€™ was Jamie absolutely falling to pieces in her arms *screams forever* i remember reading that line and imagning so many things it could have been and yet yall went for the ultimate stab to the heart bravo
god Iā€™m just thinking about how much theyā€™ve both changed in those 10 years and how much theyā€™ve stayed the same and just. god the way theyā€™re so drawn to each other still!!!! i canā€™t even comprehend
blue schrunchie cherished friend
i feel like there is a significance to the red door I cant place and all my brain will provide is ā€œyou, me, herā€ but polyamory adventures is probably not the direction this is going
Jamie like ā€œwant a tour of ur future home babe? lets goā€ (I do love how enchanted Dani is by all of it though)
gah I love Jamie and Mikey together soooo much
find u a person that eats all the foods u donā€™t like. pickle soulmates
heh ā€œMiss Daniā€ poor Mikey is goin through it lolol
they are all so cute together i love this lil sunday afternoon family
ā€œDani kept her gaze fixed on Jamie for just a second longer, studying her profileā€ gay
there has been several mentions of Jamieā€™s unreadable/blank expressions this chapter and I canā€™t stop laughing at her losing her mind over how much she loves Dani and trying to keep it in check every time
THEYā€™RE FRIENDS AGAIN
AND THEYā€™RE HUGGING OH HAPPY DAYS
oooh the sandalwood cologne
idk why this Jamie Eddie handshake is making me laugh so much but I love them
Eddie pulling Dani in closer to himself when Jamieā€™s there..... he knowsĀ 
staying awake until 2am to finish rereading gay fanfiction... clownery (but fun!) goodnight
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cattles-bians Ā· 3 years ago
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damie vibecca exes au pt 9
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obsetress: ready ok ot4 hc incoming
em: ot4! ot4! ot4
obsetress: after dani breaks up with her viola cuts all her hair off n it's the first impulsive thing she's ever allowed herself to do in her whole life (which should also tell you exactly how fucked up she was by it) n so then we have
obsetress: short curly hair viola
em: what is wrong with you
em: oh i love a dramatic haircut as a motif
obsetress: by the time she and rebecca start hooking up it's grown into a long bob and she keeps that for a while tbh because like
obsetress: viola has impulses all the time but she either: suppresses them, or thinks about them and then does them to the point where they can no longer be considered impulsive
obsetress: vs um
obsetress: dani has impulses all the time and used to suppress them but then fully leaned into
obsetress: charging headfirst into whatever the fuck (vp speech ref sheds a tear)
em: OTP: dont you wanna go apeshitt
obsetress: and thinking about how people change u and rub off on u for the better even after they leave
obsetress: viola: wants to go apeshitt
obsetress: viola: thinks about going apeshitt, thinks about all the ways it would benefit her, thinks about how she would enjoy it even if it did not in any way benefit her
obsetress: viola: yes ok don't you wanna go apeshitt
em: no but i am i am thinking abt like. dani and viola as both sort of? dragged into being housewives and homemakers because Women n viola didnā€™t really have the power to change her situation (even if she got isabel out of it!) and dani actually managed to call it off
obsetress: YEAH
obsetress: grits teeth
obsetress: once again crying over very intentional very deliberate danvi parallels that no one else wants to talk about and i think even in this au right
obsetress: viola is socialized in such a specific space that this can very much still be true
obsetress: and i think like part of what draws her to dani is exactly thatā€“ā€“that dani had the freedom to do that much soonerā€“ā€“but also she resents dani for exactly that too
obsetress: even when they're together, and that's the possession piece too
obsetress: i think a part of her thinks if she can't do it for herself she can have it for herself and that's close enough
obsetress: like she v much covets dani
em: ah the unique way that lesbians fuck each other up bc of living in a homophobic and misogynistic society
em:i mean who doesnā€™t covet danis ass
obsetress: literally and metaphorically
obsetress: and part of dani definitely knows that but part of dani (at least until she doesn't) likes it
obsetress: (also this is kinda what i was getting at w my insane lil pwp alfjadslf but i think it tracks here too)
obsetress: because she's like "well this is what it's supposed to be but it didn't work with eddie because i don't like men but now i'm with a woman and this is how it's supposed to be"
obsetress: "and i like being wanted it's nice to be wanted by someone i want for once"
obsetress: but yeah thinking a lot about the danvi dynamic once again
obsetress: viola short curly hair to viola long bob
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obsetress: YEAH I JSUT
obsetress: WENT TO HER INSTA TO FIND
obsetress: AND THEN GOT
obsetress: SO DISTRACTD
[em note: edited out a 30 minute tangent going through pictures from kates instagram]
obsetress: so anyway the whole point of this. long bob viola
obsetress: rebecca loves long bob viola she rly loves um. sitting on her lap and running her fingers back through her hair
obsetress: when she and dani see each other again for the first time dani's all "oh. you cut your... hair" and vi's like "i did" and dani's like "it, um. looks... it looks... good?"
em: i think itā€™s nice when viola does something for herself :)
obsetress: it's nice :)
obsetress: i'm happy for her :)
obsetress: wish she didn't have to look so much hotter though :)
obsetress: don't make that face, babe, it's fine :)
obsetress: you know i love you :)
em: WAIT
em: dani had a fucking moment. sheā€™s like
obsetress: oh dani likes her girls w curly hair huh
em: counting on her fingers. how many ppl has she dated w
em: YEAH
obsetress: YEAHDLKFJSLDFDFJSLDFj
em: CURLY BROWN HAIR
obsetress: OH MGOD EDDIE TOO
obsetress: NOT JUST GIRLS
obsetress: aw baby has a type
em: so actually it is DANI who ends up w the strongest routine
em: just short bob hair viola sitting next to jamie and dani has a fuckjng. out of body experience. perceives herself a little too hard
obsetress: she's just. staring
obsetress: mouth def hanging open
obsetress: then someone's like "dani? dani?" and she's blinking like five times in a row and sitting up straight
obsetress: but she does def have that moment at brunch
em: jamie doesnā€™t twig it
em: violas like. violas got a keen eye for anyone ā€˜copyingā€™ her style. raises one devastating eyebrow
obsetress: dani and vi devastating eyebrow partners n crime
obsetress: later that night, in bed: jamie?
jamie: wot?
dani: do i have a type?
obsetress: jamie immediately wants to jump to no because how could she have anything in common wā€“ā€“
obsetress: oh. oh
em: jamieā€™s lil wispy premature greys set her apart
em: ā€˜jamie HATES it when she has things in common w violaā€™ is my favourite bit sjddkhd
obsetress: jamie "not sure how viola has no greys n she's how much older than me again" taylor
em: dani realises she actually has. no idea how old viola is
em: barely even knows a birthday
em: maybe viola even has like. a decoy birthday
em: queen of being mysterious for the drama of it all
obsetress: "she's just too stubborn to grey is all" "i'm stubborn!" "mm" "wossat supposed to mean" "you're..." "i'm what" "you like to... pretend? you're stubborn" "pretend i'mā€“ā€“ i am!" "jamie, i asked you to repark the car because i didn't want to get out of bed and it's street cleaning day and you immediately jumped up to do it even though you can barely parallel park"
em: WHIPPED
obsetress: jamie's quiet for a long time then, softly: "can parallel park just fine"
obsetress: "mm"
obsetress: whipped as hell
obsetress: this led me to everyone making dani or viola parallel park all the time when they go anywhere
obsetress: hc dani is a Very Good driver. idk why but it tickles me
em: i think um. dani is v independent and wants to be able to do things herself
em: and i think she probably got her license before eddie, but as soon as eddie got his....
obsetress: and dani's better than him n got a better score than him, and yet
em: and yet!
em: they swap out being deso driver if theyā€™re gonna be drinking. or jsut call a taxi lmao
em: iā€™m so endeared by Extremely Good Driver Dani
em: dani does a reverse park without thinking
obsetress: viola loves her martinis n dani is drunk off of half a glass of sangria
obsetress: same!!!!!!!
obsetress: also just like. imagining
obsetress: dani checking all her mirrors
em: no
em: HANNAH
obsetress: and adjusting everything so fastidious
obsetress: OH GOD
obsetress: i didn'tā€“ā€“
em: i jumped
em: phew itā€™s actually cute
obsetress: yeah! dw i'm not sick
em: well
obsetress: she just goes through her whole lil checklist and is so meticulous and precise
em: jamies like ā€˜weā€™re the same heightā€™ and danis like ā€˜well.ā€™
obsetress: oh god the four of them driving to the seaside for a vacation together (lots of content to mine here, will have to put a pin in most of it because i am getting sleepy) but they end up taking the truck much to viā€™s chagrin just because it can hold the most
obsetress: (like viola doesnā€™t have a range rover but listen it needs to be dani n jamieā€™s car for this to work)
obsetress: and vi and rebecca are sitting in the back and then rebeccaā€™s frowning and blinking and digging a headband out of the seat between them and viola immediately just. knows
obsetress: sheā€™s like ā€œdani?ā€ ā€œmm?ā€ ā€œyou and jamie... have cleaned your car recently, right?ā€ (jamieā€™s chiming in: ā€œiā€™m right here, vi, you can address me too,ā€ viola pointedly ignores her) ā€œum... maybe a couple months ago? why?ā€ ā€œwell,ā€ and vi pokes her disdainfully with the headband, ā€œcan you at least tell me youā€™ve had it cleaned between whenever this got stuck between the seats and rebecca and me sitting here now?ā€
obsetress: dani just GRINS sheepishly
obsetress: ā€œi could tell you that, but...ā€ ā€œbut?ā€ dani mumbles ā€œit would be a lieā€
obsetress: anyway dunno why viā€™s that upset about having to sit in the backseat where dani n jamie hooked up, like, last week when itā€™s not like she and rebecca havenā€™t been inside the two of them respectively but itā€™s absolutely the kind of contrarian shit sheā€™d choose to be pressed about and it makes me laugh so
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janiedean Ā· 3 years ago
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Amazing how you can erase and twist everything someone says and not even bother to check things before launching in your 1000 words answer where you repeat the same things over and over again. When I say ā€œTheonā€™s story is about destroying deathā€, I AM talking about his trauma and abuse. Iā€™m not saying that Theon is a superhero, Iā€™m saying that Theonā€™s story is literally about surviving and saying no to the dying of light, heā€™s always been trapped between life and death. How is that less meaningful than Jon being AA just because heā€™s special. Jon is stereotypical, not matter how much you deny it. He is the bastard son of the ā€œgoodā€ Ned Stark that everyone seems to venerate, he becomes important, heā€™s actually a prince, and heir to the kingdom, heā€™s going to come back from the dead and apparently itā€™s not enough because heā€™s also AA. Also ā€œI search for AA and see only Snowā€, how is that not a red flag? Didnā€™t you think that it could be about Ramsay hiding Theon? I didnā€™t say that everything is about mythology and ancient literature, I said Theon has a lot of connections to it, connections that are hard not to notice, that actually make sense and are not taken out of nowhere like everyone in this fandom does. Theonā€™s story is about himself, not about Bran or any Stark, youā€™re just obsessed with throbb. Theon is connected to magic and to the gods, Theon is the rightful king of the Iron Islands, so why itā€™s so amusing to people when someone suggests that Theon has something to do. Iā€™m not saying that Theon has to be important for his story to count, but why itā€™s so amusing to people the idea that Theon is an abuse and rape victim and at the same time he has something to do. When it comes to female victims, they want them to do great things, when it comes to Theon they constantly reduce him to poor say boy, but Theon is not like that, Theon is in pain and he wants everything to end, but heā€™s also angry and he wants to be free. I didnā€™t say that he has to explore the sea because heā€™s an Ironborn, you said that, not me. I think that thatā€™s something Book!Theon would want to do if he survives everything. Because he would be free and he would go into the unknown. Thatā€™s not true Theon has no connection to the sea, the Drowned God himself wants him as king and he likes ships, thereā€™s also the fact that he never learned how to use a ship because he was kidnapped at 10. Also whatā€™s so wrong about him connecting with his culture? He could change things, he wouldnā€™t be a viking, he would be an explorer. The way you talk about it, itā€™s like dealing with trauma means closing himself in an house. And about the prophecy, whatā€™s so amusing about saying that Theon has a lot that fits? I know that the prophecy is vague, but Davos and Stannis donā€™t come close to it as Theon does. Theon died in almost every possible way and managed to come back on his own. He keeps saying that he died in Winterfell. Read the last chapters in ACOK, itā€™s all there and it all happens at the same time, and still thereā€™s so much more, so many things. And itā€™s like this HAS to be true, but you say no to everything, you donā€™t even think that he has something to do with the Iron Islands, you just think he has to ā€œatoneā€ to Bran, so how are you different from D&D? Theon doesnā€™t have to atone to Bran, Robb or anyone else called Stark, his story is about identity. And Bran is talking to Theon and yes, Theon took Winterfell, but itā€™s not the only reason their stories are connected, Theon taking Winterfell from Bran was a foreshadowing to them interacting in the future for different more important reasons, that was always clear to me
... anon never mind that I hadn't talked about this in ages so like you came into my inbox with some 500 words of replying at 8 am on a sunday morning and idk how *I* am supposedly twisting things when
you brought this out of nowhere
I hadn't talked about the AA thing nor anything wrt theon's ending in like... a year
you are basically making up half of what I said or didn't because like 'oh I didn't say he had a tying to the sea because he's an ironborn' but two lines later you say 'what's the issue if he reconnects with his ancestry' which.... means that he'd have a tie to the sea because he's an ironborn so what's the truth here
'you're obsessed with throbb' I didn't mention robb once in my entire answer nor throbb nor I have written throbb meta recently like... I ship throbb but I don't see how that has any relevance to an answer where I literally didn't mention it and I said theon's sl can't be just about the starks
idk why you seem to think I have great stakes re jon snow and 'he's stereotypical no matter how much you say he's not', I'm saying that for a chosen one archetype he's a deconstruction so he's not stereotypical in the way h*rry p*tter is or aragorn is or whatever and it's like objective text and honestly I have fic to write and stuff to do and I could have like completely ignored your ask and said 'I think you're wrong' instead yesterday I spent half an hour answering you like... you don't need to sound that aggressive or come at me with this entire block of text when I wasn't even the one starting this conversation
whatā€™s so amusing about saying that Theon has a lot that fits?
anon I explained in those 1k reply or whatever all the reasons why everything theon has that fits is something every single other character has at that point dany has the exact same reasons for fitting it and I told you all the reasons why jon has extra things that fit that no one else has, like.... it's my opinion, I haven't changed my mind since 2012 on it, you aren't going to change it and no one is until grrm writes different, you don't need to convince me or look for me to validate your reading because you can have whichever reading you want and no one stops you, I just don't think it's correct, the end
The way you talk about it, itā€™s like dealing with trauma means closing himself in an house.
anon you keep on saying I say that but you are aware that if I say I want char X to get their little house in the village/woods/city of their choice and grow strawberries with their loved ones and be happy I'm not saying what you said and I'm talking abt endgame? jaime and brienne both also deal with trauma and when I say that I hope they get married on tarth have fifteen kids and never set foot in a court again I'm not saying having children is the only way to deal with trauma like.... one thing is the endgame one thing is how you get there, where did I say theon is gonna lock himself in a cottage in wow and stay there until ados? nowhere, like.... please a bit of chill here? you read a thing and arbitrarily decided it meant stuff it doesn't mean but I am the one twisting and erasing? like sorry but it sounds like you want a fight about it or smth and believe me fighting about who is AA is not on my list of to-do things for today, also 'I died in winterfell' is like... yeah, theon greyjoy died in wf then he became reek then he became theon again, it's metaphorical, jon literally died, also like if AA wasn't a main fiver then it'd probably be someone completely out of left field that no one gaf about and for that matter there's a character who has been dying and coming back to life who has a flaming sword since like acok, but do I see you telling me it's textual proof beric is AA? no, but that would make more textual sense than theon imvho so *shrug*
in short: anon sorry but it sounds like being that theon is your fave - which... I mean he's in my top three so I agree that he's a great fave choice - you want him desperately to have the main role in the main storyline which is imvho not the case and again... even if jon was stereotypical (which we can argue on but like... from your wording I think you hate jon ngl which fair enough everyone has their dislikes) it wouldn't make the textual evidence less evidence and like... idk how to say it nicely but not liking the protagonist is more common than not and if you don't whatever but that doesn't mean he's not and that the textual stuff indicating he has the mystical hero storyline doesn't exist, I'd suggest you make peace with that concept and with the concept that your fave doesn't need to have any specialness in their sl to be a legitimate fave, also like... in asoiaf everyone who is specialā„¢ has a shit life and when grrm says he wants a bittersweet ending like in lotr, do I have to remind anyone what was lotr's ending? samwise gamgee goes back to his little house and children and wife in the shire and says he's home and we're all happy that the dude who deserved it most got it great, if that's what he's aiming for I really don't think presuming everyone gets the magical greatā„¢ storyline is in the cards XĀ°D but most of all: again, everyone who's had a sl being full of magic prophecies and shit in these books has had a crap life and hated every second of it that was related to those prophecies and I want theon to be happy at the end so in lack of any imvho text proof that says it's anyone but jon I'll stick with that because it means none of my faves is in line to hate their life, which is exactly what happens to jon if he's AA and exactly what I think is gonna happen and I don't particularly like that for him either bc I do want jon to have nice things but idt he'll get them, doesn't mean I'm trying to find any textual reason to decide on my own that AA is dany (a char I care a lot less about) so that she gets the brunt of it because that's now how it works, I made peace with it too XĀ°D
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sharkonasock Ā· 4 years ago
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Alright everyone time for my post episdoe analysis and HOLY SHIT IT WAS GOOD. Let's just start with the opening scenes. We had Martin dreaming about escaping and coming home to Jess and Malcolm dragging him back down to earth and showing us some real solid Martin psychology. Then we had Malcolm working out and the Wake Me Up Before You Gogo and we had the affirmation card and the pills. It was very conclusive and it had that little essence of season 1. Also that tiny bit of Jess and Gil angst was great. Ok, the boarding school so I liked the fact that we got back into the flashbacks and the reason he changed his name (bc there are fics for it and they are very good), plus we had that little bit of torment around the edges of just knowing that this place was one the reasons Malcolm's traumatized. Which led straight to the case and how at the beginning when Gil showed up it was the headmaster Malcolm was hoping was dead. Bright knew all about this guy so it gave it that personal touch. We also had a solid amount of Edrisa and she was just swimming around the pool and talking about how vibey the crime scene was and just y e s gimme more weirdass medical examiner shit. Also in the hallway with the closet and Dani noticed Bright's hand tremor gave me some major brightwell subtext. I liked how easily we slid into the black notebook think and I liked Mal jumping into the pool and walking into the room of kids completely soaked it really went with his 'my life already sucks how much worse can it get' lifestyle. The little profiler things with the kids at the beginning and that scene of Edrisa being a total science nerd leading to the kids had fantastic charactization and build up for the murder. Wow this is gonna be long as shit. Ok uh the cheating circle made it more interesting and harder to figure out and I enjoyed learning that the librarian who Malcolm thought he could trust ran it. Plus the entire reason with him leaking Malcolm's name because he was too observant and too intuitive gives us a really nice representation of kid Malcolm. I'd also like to point out when he told Malcolm he was obsessed with solving things because that is so true and the way he used it was perfect. I actually did think it was going to be the librarian until I remembered that Louisa volunteered at the library. The murder was perfectly complex and has that little twist.
Now onto Martin, the Bible study had me worried for a second but I enjoyed watching him manipulate that other prison. I knew he wouldn't kill Mr. David (yet) because it didn't fit at the moment but the whole planting the shiv and stealing the keycards was genius. And yes I shouldn't be ok with him escaping but I liked to watch him slip away from Martin Whitly and into The Surgeon. It was that little bit of sociopath showing between the cracks and how easily and thoughtfully he did it. To bring up soemthing along with that let's go back to Malcolm getting locked into the closet. I didn't expect that ending and I really just thought he beat the shit out of the kid and that was that. But what I want to focus on is the tremor. Because while he was talking to Dani he brought it up and I truly thought it was from being locked in a closet for three days but oh how I was wrong. The fact that if he had let Nicky die it would've been first degree because he stole his inhaler just makes me so happy and it really really shouldn't but I can't help it. And yes it's fantastic that he saved his life and all but think about the cause and effect here. Someone learns he's the surgeons son-> they lock him in a closet for three days-> Malcolm plans and almost kills him-> gets expelled because they headmaster knew he was a killer. IF THATS NOT THE MOST SATISFYING THING. Ok now back to Louisa, so I enjoyed the connection to her father and how she was being sucked into a life that wasn't hers and she needed away. Because it's exactly what Bright did when he went to Quantico. But I also enjoyed how they s h o w e d us they were the same. Idk if I can explain that but yeah.
Last things, the little details were so appreciated. Dani freaking out over Tally and JT, Jess still pushing to be the perfect family, Malcolm and Gil's entire conversation (my personal favorite), the oxygen depletion in the library and the fire, the chloromine-t poison usage, MAL BEING WRAPPED UP IN A BLANKET, the fact that JT is going is going to be an amazing father, and last but ļæ¼ c e r t a i n ly not least I WANT TO SEE BRIGHT HOLDING A BABY AWKWARDLY AND HAVING NO IDEA WHAT THE FUCK TO DO
oh fuck wait I forgot abt the preview: uh it looks interesting as shit and I think it's going to be very very bad at the same exact time ok that's it wow big brain moments if you got down to here I'm so so very sorry ok goodbye I love you have a good night
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colour-outside-the-liness Ā· 3 years ago
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Hi Colour! This is going to be a long one, so buckle up!
Oh wow, that's so precious! You've definitely earned the "real life Dani" nickname haha I wish I could find something meaningful like that to do with my life. I'm actually autistic and have ADHD so hearing you do this kind of work makes me really happy! Keep up the good work Ms. Clayton! šŸ˜ Haha
You sound like a lot of fun to hang out with at pubs! Haha I'm glad you identify with that bit of info on your star placements. I had a lot of fun doing it too!
The thing about Hozier is that some of his lyrics are incredibly sapphic to me for some reason, I'm still trying to figure it out. NFWMB is one of the songs that feels like that to me. Don't know if you've heard it before but give it a try if you haven't. If you close your eyes it sounds like you're in an epic romantic story and there are swords, pretty gowns, and rooms lit by torches. Haha
The beginning of this song was inspired by a poem written by W.B Yeats called "The Second Coming" in 1920, and it talks about an apocalypse of sorts, alluding to all of the horrors men inflicted upon the world which ends up awakening this beast that goes to Jesus's place of birth in the Bible (Bethlehem) to be born. The last lines being:
"And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"
So the song starts with:
"When I first saw you
The end was soon
To Bethlehem it slouched
And then, it must've caught a good look at you"
And oh boy do I think of Dani when I hear that. Especially bc of that scene where Viola accepts Dani's invitation to live inside her. And nobody knows why she accepts it (but I do!).
And yeah at first glance you might not think much of Dani. in the beginning she's just a tiny frail small-town girl with a lot of anxiety, running away from her past traumas. But she proves us wrong again and again and again. She moves to a country she's never been before entirely by herself, sees an opportunity, and doesn't let go of it even when it looks like it went wrong. Then is very loving and tender with these children who have gone through so much and are still going through so much. Tries to fight (with a fire poker!!) the threatening man that keeps harassing her, the children, and her friends. THEN manages to soften the angry, grumpy lesbian who's given up on people after A LOT of trauma (too much in my opinion) and doesn't give up on her when she rejects her either. Freaking exorcises her ex and makes him stop haunting her so she can be with the love of her life. And then finally as if all of that didn't make her the bravest hero in this story, she literally stops an apocalypse from happening and saves everyone from this beast by sacrificing herself without even thinking twice. Saves everyone that came before her and then the ones who'll come after for the rest of eternity. I mean the P-O-W-E-R this girl has. šŸ’Ŗ so hell yeah the lady in the lake wanted to take her.
When Hozier says:
"Ain't it a gentle sound, the rollin' in the graves?
Ain't it like thunder under earth, the sound it makes?
Ain't it exciting you, the rumble where you lay?
Ain't you my baby? ain't you my baby?"
I can only think of Dani at the bottom of the lake laying on top of all the bones of the people Viola killed and how she's at peace living forever in a dark place like that. That's kinda hardcore y'know?
After the first verses, Hozier goes on to talk abt his lover, someone so utterly terrifying even the beast of the end of the world can't stand to look at them. But this song is also about being proud to be this person's lover bc nothing can fuck with them, not bc you are there to protect them and wouldn't let anyone harm them, but bc they're more than capable of protecting themselves and you too. So in my head, this song is Jamie's declaration of love to Dani.
And then I think of Jamie's devotion to Dani when she said "If you can't feel anything, then I'll feel everything for the both of us." shown in this verse:
"If I was born as a blackthorn tree
I'd wanna be felled by you
Held by you
Fuel the pyre of your enemies"
And the fact that she took what she could get just to be with Dani. She knew she'd have to suffer for/bc of her at some point, but chose to be with her anyway. I have no doubts in my mind she'd want to be anything for her as long as they could be together in any way, shape, or form. In all the lives they happened to meet one another too.
Wouldn't it be cool to see them in an AU where Dani is like a medieval princess who's supposed to marry Edmund to form an alliance between kingdoms or something and Jamie is an assassin who is hired to kill the princess so she has to pretend to be Dani's personal guard or wtever but they fall in love and run away together and Jamie teaches her how to fight so Dani becomes this warrior but turns out Dani is naturally good at it and then she becomes a legend? Hahaha I can see her riding a horse in the winter with paint on her face and her blonde hair falling over this fur-lined cloak, fierce look on her face, and Jamie riding next to her (always). Then they come across Viola who's a witch and puts a curse on Dani and then Dani and Jamie have to travel to all sorts of places and fight all sorts of people and go on this whole adventure to rid Dani of this curse. Maybe Dani has to go back to her kingdom bc her father dies and there are other people trying to take her kingdom so there's a lot of angst and suffering but then they win at the end after a lot of sweat and tears and they live happily ever after! šŸ˜ŽHahaha
Anyway, I hope you're having a great week so far and hope you had fun with your niece today! (I know if I was her and you had us make fudge and paint I'd worship you haha) I'm sorry for the very (very) long ask, but I've been obsessing over this idea for months and I just had to share it with someone! āœŒļøāœØ
(And you can call me Libby or wtever since I'm not anon anymore šŸ¤—)
Awwh thank you so much for saying I have earned my 'real life Dani' title is means a lot to me that you guys see that in me!! I am sure you do so many meaningful things in life without even realising it!! I honestly just want to make a difference and I love helping people so going into a career like this just seemed so natural to me and I really do love what I do!! Thank you so much I really hope I can keep up the good work!! I hope I'm a lot of fun- I know I have helped win a few pub quizzes and there's been a few times I've won games of trivial pursuit as well so that really did make so much sense to me and learning about all the placements of my chart was so much fun and was so interesting so thank you very much!! I have heard some of Hozier's lyrics are quite sapphic and I always mean to look into more of his songs and then just never do but I will definitely look in to NFWMB because the lyrics you have sent me here are incredible and definitely give of Dani x Jamie vibes I definitely agree with you in everything you have said about why Viola accepted Dani's invitation- Dani and Viola are similar in some ways and this was something I was explaining to my niece when she watched it with me. I explained to her that both Viola and Dani are strong willed, and stubborn, and would do anything to fiercely protect the people they care about. We saw that time and time again with Dani, how within days of knowing Miles and Flora she was out with a fire poker trying to protect them from a strange man that she kept seeing around the manor. And how Viola would've done anything to protect her daughter. One major difference between them though is that Viola seemed to have a slight selfish streak where as Dani is entirely selfless, she was selfless for the longest time in even agreeing to marry Eddie so she wouldn't hurt him, she was selfless in protecting Miles and Flora, and even more selfless in saving Flora's life and freeing all the trapped spirits of Bly Manor and then she is selfless in the fact that she won't drag anyone down and won't hurt anyone else at Bly ever again. The one thing she did for herself was being with Jamie- and she was able to make Jamie open up and trust people in way she probably hadn't for the longest time. Dani is a truly strong person as was Viola and I can see why she would accept Dani's invitation. I will have to listen to this song to see it from a Jamie perspective which I will definitely do tomorrow but from the lyrics you have sent me I can definitely see it being a love declaration to Dani from Jamie. Jamie knew in the end she would suffer because she knew she wouldn't be able to keep Dani forever, and knew that one day she would have to leave her- but she knew loving Dani for as long as she was allowed to would be worth that pain in the end and Jamie is a truly strong person as well for knowing this and staying by Dani's side anyway when that must have been such a hard thing for Jamie to ever have to accept. Jamie would've been anything for Dani and would've one anything for her as Dani would've for Jamie and that's why I love them so much. They loved each other so purely and without conditions and so wholeheartedly and it really was such a lovely thing to watch play out in front of us (even if it did hurt us all at the end). I think it would be so cool to see an AU like that I think medieval stuff is always so fun and so interesting and a good enemies to lovers start never fails either because there's so much tension there between them. And Jamie being undercover as someone to get close to Dani and them slowly falling in love with each other would just be a great thing to see!! And I am all for warrior Dani and Jamie (women with weapons is a little bit of a weakness of mine)!! This whole AU just sounds incredible I love a good curse in fantasy stories and the curse slowly taking over and you thinking they're going to run out of time but everything works out in the end!! Dani going back to her kingdom because of her sick Dad dying would be great for angst because it would look
like she would have to marry someone to create an alliance and that she would have to take over a kingdom (perhaps something she never wanted to do in the first place)!! I think this could be a very angsty one shot and could be so interesting and fun and the happy ending would definitely make all the angst worth it in the end!! I am having a good week so far thank you and I had so much fun with my niece today, making fudge went great and she was happy that I was able to show her how to do it because she'd never made it before so now that's something she knows how to do (I think she thinks I'm way cooler than I actually am haha thank you for saying you'd worship me though if you were my niece haha šŸ˜‚) but tomorrow she is teaching me how to do something because I taught her how to make fudge today... she's gonna teach me how to draw in an anime style- which is something she is really into and even though I'm not she loves drawing so I've asked if she can teach me since I taught her something today!! There's no need to apologise I loved this long angst and I loved this idea I think it's really great and interesting and that song just seems amazing and I am definitely gonna listen to it tomorrow when I get chance!! Thank you for sharing this idea with me I loved it!! ā˜ŗļø Haha oki doki then as long as that's alright with you Libby is what I'll call you!! Like I said you can seriously call me anything!! ā˜ŗļø
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disaster-fruit Ā· 4 years ago
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Please give us fluffy guayguay hc's.
YES MY FLUFFY BOYS
Btw this is not that fluffy bc well itā€™s me Iā€™m angsty angst boy but I tried uahduajd
they first started developing feelings (in the current times) in part because being constantly surrounded by their big loud neighbors made both crave for something calm and peaceful and they found that in their small moments together.
Moments like going to lunch together after a Mercosur meeting, helping each other on boring work things, or talk endlessly in a quiet corner of whatever party they might be. Theyā€™re really comfortable around each other, both relax a lot and are more themselves than in big groups or with some other people.
Para is also the one person uru canā€™t say no to. Completely powerless against those big shiny eyes and that little face he does when it wants something. Thereā€™s just so much self-control a man can have in him
One hc I really like is that Sebastian, being this more serious man who tends to avoid strong emotions, is completely taken aback by how Dani is much more open about his feelings and emotionally mature, heā€™s not afraid to voice it and doesnā€™t try to look cool and detached as too many (including Sebastian) do.
And this attitude makes Sebastian sometimes be hit HARD with FeelingsTM he has a hard time containing and doesnā€™t know what to do with them. It takes him a while to understand, oh, is this what being in love feels like?
both but specially uru donā€™t have much relationship experience. Theyā€™ve had their affairs and had strong emotional connections before, maybe even a little bit of love, but nothing that he felt he couldnā€™t stop himself from having if he just put the on the effort.
And when both realize that new layer of love over all those shared moments from before, thereā€™s a bit of that DenialTM. Uru is sure is nothing more than initial infatuation, Para not for a second believes his feelings could be returned, and neither wants to risk what they do have with an affair or worse, with a rejection.
I donā€™t have a specific hc abt their first kiss but one possibility I like is just they talking one day and Uru gets one of those Strong Feelings after something Para says and in a crazy moment of impulsiveness he kisses him. Itā€™s not like Uruguay to have moments like this, to be impulsive ever, which forces him to realize that heā€™s way deeper in love than he had imagined.Ā 
Another possibility is Para kissing him first, and then Uru kinda rejects him bc he doesnt know how to deal with Strong Feelings and would hate more than anything in the world to end up hurting Dani later. So like things get really weird for a few days or weeks until baby realizes heā€™s being an idiot and go kiss his man back like he should have.Ā 
They decide to keep it a secret for a while, mostly because they know Martins reaction will be.... something. Also because both kinda still feel like this is just a fragile little crush from the other and telling it to people might make it too real. So for a long time (maybe years!) they donā€™t tell a soul.
At first they are very very careful with the secret but after a while theyā€™re just trying to see how many times they can kiss behind martinā€™s back or have sex in his bedroom, hold hands under the table, sext during dinner, etc, without getting caught.
But is during this time they develop some habits that stay with them forever, like having most of their dates are their own homes and trying to make the best out of it, going to small distant towns on the weekends where they canā€™t easily be recognized, boat rides to the middle of nowhere that end in a picnic on a hiding spot, etc.
After a while theyā€™re also resisting to tell the world to avoid changing this comfortable dynamic theyā€™ve developed, like it wouldnā€™t be the same without the secret. Sometimes things are better when you keep them to yourself, no one needs to knows.
But eventually they do tell everyone. Arg reacting to Guayguay is my favorite thing. To paraphrase an anon for a while ago ā€œMartin: just found out Daniel and Sebastianā€™s lives donā€™t revolve around me. #disappointed and #upsetā€. Heā€™s shocked lol he thought he was part of the trio not that he was the third-wheel šŸ˜”Ā  and though the three still hang out together after, Martin is constantly DISGUSTEDtm at any form of affection they show ever. The first time Dani calls Sebastian Mi Cielo in public he has a fuking stroke.
Paraā€™s mom was never a fan of anyone dating her boy in the first place, but with all the options he had in the continent, sheā€™s happy he picked Uruguay lol (basically Sebastian is the kid all the parents want their kid to date)
PDA! Thanks to another anon, Iā€™ve adopted the hc that para calls uru mi Cielo and mi Sol. Uru calls Pari mi vida. Constantly. Itā€™s gross.
Also they hold hands so much??? Is that even allowed?? And if before they were kissing and holding hands in secret now they do it in front of everyone.Ā 
Danielā€™s social media is full of pictures of their dates together, pictures of the homemade romantic dinners, of the places they visit, and the descriptions are either small romantic texts or just emojis like šŸ„°šŸ·šŸ‘¬ šŸ’•
Ā Sebastianā€™s on the other hand have spontaneous pictures of Dani he took when he wasnā€™t looking, like him gazing at the sunset or sleeping on the couch looking like an angel. And the descriptions are even more disgusting bc itā€™s just things like ā€œmy loveā€, ā€œsunshineā€. Martin is this close to blocking them
No matter how much time has passed, Sebastian still a little flushed whenever Dani is a little too sweet with him, or tells him he loves him. Like homeboy literally cannot Believe this is happening.Ā 
Usnduajduajduajjdua they gross Iā€™m sorry
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lastbuckshot Ā· 7 years ago
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oc list
so @underbree did a lot of asking abt my ocs so iā€™ve been typing up a (very small) synopsis of them for a few hrs (small bc thereā€™re So Many)
if ur curious abt them or wanna know more abt a few pls feel free to ask me about them i love my kids
some notes:
fc = face claim
some fcs repeat bc I canā€™t leave well enough alone and some different looks from the same actor give off completely different vibes (Iā€™m the guiltiest of this with cm punk lmao)
Ā sometimes my fandoms/obsessions and my fcs go hand in hand so when u see a bunch of actors from the same show thatā€™s usually not a coincidence
speaking of fandoms, a lot of these ocs and fcs are years and years old (Iā€™m talking like some of them are 6 years old) so a lot of them are gonna have fcs from ppl I used to fuck w/ heavy way back when but I donā€™t anymore, I just canā€™t bring myself to change the fc (like with all the cm punks)
youā€™d expect me to have a pj and a milo oc and Iā€™d expect it too but I donā€™t, Freddie (@miloventisoylatte) has both and we collab like every day
all the assassins arenā€™t assassins for fun, and theyā€™re not hitmen either; thereā€™s an entire company/organization that theyā€™re a part of, which doles out missions and payouts. they only really kill scummy people so think of it as a massive trained vigilante operative organization
The Oloros
Ā Zemorah (Zee; FC: Janelle Monae) ā€“ sheā€™s probably my fave oc atm, I grouped her with her family but sheā€™s also an assassin. sheā€™s the seed that planted the whole family, bc she was a standalone oc first. sheā€™s a bi girl, and she has a history of past relationship abuse, but sheā€™s growing and recovering and actually engaged (to one of freddieā€™s ocs as a matter of fact; a big werewolf boi named Aaron who has Milo Ventimiglia as a FC)!!! sheā€™s a bonefide flower girl sis loves flowers and gardening but sheā€™s Not the one to play with. Very independent and self-sufficient bc she doesnā€™t see the point in having anyone take care of her when she can take care of herself and do it better. Prefers hand-to-hand combat to guns on missions. Frequently goes on missions with Liam (mentioned later), but is off from missions indefinitely because sheā€™s with child (triplets!!!)
Halina (Hal; FC: Yetide Badaki) ā€“ the oldest of the oloro sisters (but not the oldest sibling). Tendajiā€™s twin sister. Sheā€™s reserved and on the quiet side compared to a lot of her family; sheā€™s on almost the same plane as rashid. she can also be a workaholic, getting stuff done and making progress (on work or in life) is one of the most fulfilling things in the world for her
Malkia (Mal; FC: Danielle Brooks) ā€“ the youngest of the oloro sisters and she loves to give love. She has a big olā€™ heart and a loud infectious laugh. If you wanna have a good time and feel good about yourself and come out feeling like a Rockstar you hang out with mal
Hodari (FC: Aldis Hodge) ā€“ one of the younger oloro brothers. heā€™s like, the class clown of the siblings. heā€™s always making fun of something or someone heā€™s goofy as hell
Rashid (FC: Mike Colter) ā€“ oldest child and oldest brother, probably the most stoic and ā€œput togetherā€ sibling. married with kids and very, very, very protective of his family. a ā€œyouā€™d be better off fucking with him than fucking with his familyā€ type
Kaivon (Kai; FC: Ricky Whittle) ā€“ second youngest brother, and adopted. bi, and a flirt (ofc he is). Someone you can ask to fuck you one time out of the gate and heā€™ll have no problem w/ doing it. He could talk a priest into becoming a satanist
Jamal (FC: Trevante Rhodes) ā€“ jamal is the youngest brother and youngest sibling and heā€™s such a sweet heart oh my god,,, heā€™s pan and heā€™s like a giant teddy bear he really just wants to make everyone he meets happy. truly a people pleaser and a ā€œIā€™ll give someone in need the clothes off my backā€ type. Lover of cuddles
Tendaji (ā€˜Daji; FC: Michael James Shaw) ā€“ Halinaā€™s twin brother. ā€˜Daji is the sibling you get when you mix rashidā€™s protectiveness and hodariā€™s goofiness. Heā€™ll make you laugh and loves to laugh but you Cannot cross him or his family he wonā€™t let it happen
Shani (FC: Viola Davis) ā€“ the mom of this gaggle of kids. sheā€™s a really sweet and loving mom and provider for her kids, so much so that she adopted one and pushed out 7
Andwele (FC: Lance Reddick) ā€“ dad of this gaggle of kids. Very stoic and gets a kick out of being overly stoic toward people heā€™s meeting for the first time and seeing how they react when rly deep down he loves a good time
Ā Ā The Northcutts (Werecats)
Ā Alexander (Alex; CM Punk [this version]) ā€“ leviā€™s older brother. alex is a werecat, yes, as a northcutt, yes, but heā€™s also a demon (his dad was one). Ego the size of texas. Still exploring and discovering his sexuality, and isnā€™t completely comfortable with any labels, but heā€™s a lover of sex in general. So much so that he has 4 kids (heā€™s a single dad). thereā€™s a good heart in there somewhere but heā€™s still a force of chaotic evil. Chaotic neutral on a good day. Chaotic good on a better one. But always chaotic
Levi (FC: Adam Levine) ā€“ alexā€™s younger brother. Heā€™s the good brother. Heā€™s not a demon, because he and alex have different dads. Lover of sushi (yes, because heā€™s a cat)
Grant (FC: Jake Gyllenhaal) ā€“ charlieā€™s older brother. Heā€™s a really chilled out and laid back single dad of one, but his brother is a bad influence
Charles (Charlie; FC: Ryan Reynolds) ā€“ grantā€™s younger brother. Getting called Charles upsets him spiritually, please spare him the pain. One of the pettiest, dumbest, most extracurricular ocs. Heā€™s an assassin and when jay (an oc I talk abt later) gets ready to give him his payouts (which can be huge lump sums of money, Iā€™m telling you right now), heā€™ll tell jay he wants something stupid instead, like pocket lint or a finger nail clipping. Like, he doesnā€™t want any of the money, heā€™ll tell jay to donate it or give it to someone else or do whatever he wants with it, and just ask for a shoestring. It drives jay up the fucking wall
Jackson (Jax; FC: Chris Evans) ā€“ rebeccaā€™s older brother. Heā€™s in the same boat as alex with exploring his sexuality, figuring himself out. Itā€™s summer, heā€™s got his hat on backwards, and heā€™s ready to fucking party. has dabbled in drugs and is a patron of the one night stand
Rebecca (FC: Megan Fox) ā€“ jaxā€™s younger sister. bi. she used to be a party animal just like jax, until she had her first son. Sheā€™s cooled way down now, and sheā€™s the mom everyone wants. Sheā€™s the mom that takes everyone to Disney and buys everyone souvenirs on a whim bc she just feels like it
Nadia (FC: Jessica Chastain) ā€“ taraā€™s older sister. mother of twins. Very loving, and the type of person you go to if you need life coaching.
Tara (FC: Amber Heard) ā€“ nadiaā€™s younger sister. bi. sheā€™s a mom with a very big, soft heart. Her instinct is to nurture everyone around her (not necessarily coach them like her sister does; just take care of them emotionally)
Anastasia (Annie; FC: Alicia Coppola) ā€“ alexā€™s and leviā€™s mom; bi, and the youngest sibling out of the matriarchs/patriarchs. Just like all the northcutt matriarchs and patriarchs, sheā€™s a fun-loving parent. Teases her kids in as loving a way possible (like asking alex if heā€™s done slinging his junk around and impregnating the city)
Katrina (FC: Julianna Margulies) ā€“ charlieā€™s and grantā€™s mom; bi, and the oldest sibling out of the matriarchs/patriarchs. Very similar to annie, but her ambiance is different. If annie is a chill mom, katrinaā€™s more of a cool mom.
Anthony (Ant; FC: Live Schreiber) ā€“ nadiaā€™s and taraā€™s dad, and the second oldest of the matriarchs/patriarchs. Looks scary, but is actually only scary 49% of the time. Probably the most serious of the northcutt parents (which isnā€™t saying much, bc the whole family is doofy)
Logan (FC: Hugh Jackman) ā€“ jaxā€™s and rebeccaā€™s dad, and the second youngest of the matriarchs/patriarchs. Prankster and a jokester, and very close to annie
Ā Ā The Assassins
Ā Aiden (FC: Richard Armitage) ā€“ evaā€™s fiancĆ© and a lover of red wine. aiden was the start of a long line of assassins. Heā€™s a father of one, with another on the way, with his fiancee. Thereā€™s some years old drama between him and ian, that ultimately ended in the death of his (aidenā€™s) daughterā€™s motherā€™s death, because of the assassination of the wrong person on ianā€™s part (itā€™s resulted in an inside joke about bad aim). Heā€™s semi-retired now, in that he doesnā€™t go on missions himself much, but he still works with the company.
James (FC: Andrew Lincoln) ā€“ daniā€™s husband. aidenā€™s best friend. Father of two (one with dani, one from a previous marriage). Also semi-retired, in the same way as aiden. Heā€™s got a big fucking mouth and almost everything he has is some type of joke or innuendo
Dominic (FC: Luke Evans) ā€“ jayā€™s older brother (half-brother, different dads). Pan. Loves to cook (entrees more than desserts), hopeless romantic, and a single father of one. Still takes assassin work often, usually sniping.
Ian (FC: Michael Fassbender) ā€“ mr. bad aim. Still carries a lot of guilt about what happened to aidenā€™s daughterā€™s mother (should he is up to viewer discretion), but heā€™s still very loving, and heā€™s been trying to make up for it for years (despite being told itā€™s a buried and forgiven issue). Doesnā€™t handle guns much on missions anymore; heā€™s more in charge of extraction now (whether that be via car, bus, motorcycle, heli, etc.)
Jacob (Jay; FC: Ian Bohen [usually this version]) ā€“ dominicā€™s younger brother (half-brother, different dads), and a father of two. Also loves to cook (desserts more than entrees), and used to work as an actual assassin, for a very short time, but stopped, because that part of the job wasnā€™t for him. Nowadays, heā€™s more like the accountant/money man in the company, giving everyone what theyā€™re owed, determining how much, helping decide which jobs get what pay. The object of charlieā€™s endless torment
Liam (FC: Dan Stevens) ā€“ liamā€™s a werecat as well as an assassin, as WELL as a demon (on his momā€™s side). heā€™s adopted (his adoptive parents and biological mom r mentioned later), which he found out relatively early in life, when his abilities started manifesting on accident. He was never mad about it, and didnā€™t take a particular interest in finding his real parents until recently (and luckily heā€™s found his mom; the deal with his dad hasnā€™t been completely settled yet). Sniper/generally most comfortable with guns as opposed to hand-to-hand. Zeeā€™s frequent partner and mission husband (but not her real fiancĆ©, even if they had a fling for a while). Gets clowned for eating baked beans for breakfast (especially by zee)
Danielle (Dani; FC: Danai Gurira) ā€“ jamesā€™s wife. A jack of all trades in the company, with her hand in accounting, assassinations, mission planning, and training. She thinks her husband is endearingly dumb (she doesnā€™t look down on him, she just knows heā€™s a dumbass), but she places a high value on how much he makes her laugh.
Evalyn (Eva; FC: Rutina Wesley) ā€“ aidenā€™s fiancĆ©e, and a doctor within the company. You could probably tell from her job she genuinely loves taking care of people, and enjoys the pressure. She can do surgeries and the like, but poison recognition and treatment (if possible) is her preferred practice.
Ā Ā Werewolves
Ā Jonathan (Nate; CM Punk [this version]) ā€“ one of my first ocs, and honestly, a pure, good soul. He has a history of abuse (not from relationships like with zee; his abuse came from his father and his peers [I donā€™t mean school here, even though thatā€™s true too]), and struggles a lot with depressive episodes, but he still has the biggest, warmest heart in the world. He knows forgiving isnā€™t for everyone, but itā€™s what makes him feel better, given some time and space. Christmas is his favorite holiday and he has a collection of santa hats that he makes his friends wear to get into the spirit. Heā€™s still figuring out his own gender, sexuality, and romantic attraction, but he considers himself a bi ace often (heā€™s not sex repulsed and heā€™s had sex, but not often and itā€™s not important to him), and fluctuates between considering himself male and nonbinary (but heā€™s more comfortable with he/him pronouns in both cases)
David (FC: Ian Bohen [usually this version]) ā€“ cocky and full of himself and comes off as arrogant. He sort of is all of those things, sort of not. Iā€™m just gonna say this honestly: thot. 5 kids, but all from the same mom. heā€™s not with her, not formally; theyā€™re more likeā€¦ā€¦.. kid partners? Mates? Itā€™s a weird arrangement. But he a hoe
Ryan (FC: CM Punk [this version]) ā€“ one of nateā€™s past abusers. Repentant, very repentant, and nateā€™s forgiven him, but whether anyone else does (or should) is discretionary.
*Tom (FC: Tom Hiddleston) ā€“ (*name subject to change bc I donā€™t usually like fcs and ocs to have the same first name) the second of nateā€™s main abusers, alongside ryan. Has also repented and earned nateā€™s forgiveness, but again, whether anyone else can forgive him is discretionary.
Ā Ā Demons and Fallen Angels
Iā€™m gonna save some breath here: all the fallens are pansexual and panromantic, unless stated otherwise (godā€™s not included here)
Ā God (FC: Idris Elba) ā€“ okay, obviously god isnā€™t a fallen angel or a demon, but heā€™s still in this equation. Not much to say bc god isā€¦ā€¦ā€¦ god.
Lucifer (Lucy; FC: Colin Oā€™Donoghue) ā€“ yes, Thee lucifer, the fallen angel. Big ego, as you can imagine, and very, very bitter at god, not just for casting him out, but for keeping people he was close to before the fall from following him, including his girlfriend (and now wife) at the time, ariel. Extreme lover of red wine and makes his own in hell bc mortal wine isnā€™t strong enough or good enough for him. Father of twin daughters in the official sense, but has fathered literal devil spawns in the past So I Mean
Ariel (FC: Jennifer Morrison) ā€“ lucyā€™s wife and long time (millions/billions of years long) girlfriend. Did not follow lucifer in the fall, half because god convinced her not to, and half because she thought his betrayal of god was a betrayal of her, since itā€™d put their relationship at risk (whether sheā€™s right or not is a matter of personal opinion). Sheā€™d visit lucy as an angel to talk to him, because she was upset that they were apart, but still missed him. Eventually, she made the decision to put her love for lucy over her angelhood and fell. Sheā€™s still an angel at heart, though.
Jonah (Ares; FC: Sean Maguire) ā€“ lucyā€™s best friend. Fell with him, and was his right hand man during the rebellion. He got his nickname from lucy, because he reminded him of the god of war. Despite lucy seeing them as equals (minus lucy being king, and ares not), ares has a tendency to refer to lucy as ā€œmy lordā€ and ā€œkingā€ (though heā€™s cut down recently). Honestly a workaholic, and loves being occupied (which in hell means a fair amount of soul torturing, but he also makes lucyā€™s wine)
Adam (FC: Josh Dallas) ā€“ another fallen angel. Didnā€™t fall with lucy, but fell well before ariel. If a frat boy were a fallen angel, theyā€™d be adam.
Sabrina (FC: Rebecca Mader) ā€“ o shit bois, another fallen!!! Before lucy met/fell in love with ariel, sabrina was his main squeeze. she fell shortly after lucy and ares did, and she and lucy did some fooling around in the years before ariel fell. She and lucy are probably more alike than ariel and lucy as far as attitudes and mannerisms go (both of them are promiscuous [not a bad thing], sarcastic, and flirtatious), but doesnā€™t hold any (or much) ill will toward lucy or ariel.
Malachi (FC: Liam Garrigan) - yet another fallen!!! fell after lucifer, and stayed in hell, not causing trouble, for a little bit. then he started plotting to overthrow lucy, and eventually tried, by threatening to kill ariel if he didnā€™t give him the thrown. got punished with torture and stripped of the privileges being a fallen got him before. lucyā€™s pulled him out of punishment now tho. second chances and all that.
Paul (El Demonio, Victoria; CM Punk [this version]) ā€“ genderfluid/bigender (hence the two nicknames), and currently married to haedes with a daughter (biologically theirs) after some turbulent times of denial and teasing from both of them. Sarcastic and a little bit holier than thou (but so is haedes). Would lay down his life for any and all forms of red velvet.
Desmond (Haedes; Richard Armitage [mostly any version of RA with long(er) hair is Haedes]) ā€“ paulā€™s husband. A little arrogant, but not usually so much that you wanna punch him in the throat. Just about as arrogant as youā€™d expect a demon to be.
Joseph (Joe; FC: Joe Manganiello) ā€“ alexā€™s dad. Estranged from his son and alexā€™s mom both bc of the grimy shit he did. Not born a demon, and not possessed, but filled (literally, not figuratively) with demonic energy by a demon.
Athena (FC: Jill Wagner) ā€“ Liamā€™s biological mother (who he only met very recently; he does openly call her ā€œmomā€)
Ā Ā Humans
Ā Violetta (Dee; FC: Ruth Negga) ā€“ calling her Violetta or Violet will probably get your shit pushed in so please leave her be. Bi. She has tulip oā€™hareā€™s accent (as opposed to ruthā€™s irish one), and part of a female biker ā€œgangā€ (yes, she wears plenty of leather jackets). Loves teaching herself tinkering/handy type things, like taking apart and fixing computers, building computers, fixing cars, sewing, and fixing appliances. Really, sheā€™ll pick up and learn just about anything if you give her the time.
Abaddon (Abby; FC: Jeffrey Dean Morgan) ā€“ no, not That Abaddon. Abbyā€™s just a country boy with strong opinions on how peach cobbler should look, taste, and be served. Master griller. Father of two (co-custody).
Wade (FC: Wade Barrett/Stu Bennett) ā€“ my very first oc, so weā€™re talking like, 6 years. Which you think would mean I have a lot to say here, but I donā€™t!!!!!! his characterā€™s been doing a lot of changing and evolving with my tastes and perceptions, with me trying to decide whatā€™s too far and whatā€™s not. and I might do an entire revamp. For now, Iā€™ll leave it at: he has a really sketchy fucking past, but heā€™s doing better now.
Cassandra (Cassie; FC: Emma Thompson) ā€“ liamā€™s adoptive mother. A+ sense of humor. Jokes about liam and zee still being together.
Denton (FC: Hugh Laurie) ā€“ liamā€™s adoptive father. The more reserved between him and his wife, but he has an endearing dry/subtle humor that suits him.
Killian (FC: Matt Ryan [the welsh actor not the football player]) ā€“ Iā€™d be lying if I said killian wasnā€™t very inspired by john Constantine lmao, bc he is. He is a demon hunter/exorcist/jack of all trades in the supernatural. He knows lucy, and lucy knows him, and thereā€™s a petty war between them. Lucy isnā€™t killing him, killian isnā€™t actively trying to take down lucy, but they know each other exist, and killian brags to him about trapping and destroying all his demons.
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sansasstarkling Ā· 6 years ago
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okay BUT
iā€™mma fix this stark family fuck up.
after bran becomes king they put together a small council thatā€™s like just random blokes - no bronn as master of coin (jesus fucking CHRIST, who the fucks idea WAS IT to make that man a MASTER of FUCKING COIN? WHAT THE FUCKBALLS), no tyrion as the hand - just random people to signify that yea this is a beginning of something new. and i saw that one post explaining all the random weird stuff bran does when heā€™s the king - like he has there secret passageways and corridors all around the castle and he sometimes just likes to scare people by just silently rolling out from behind a random tapestry or something, kinda like hogwarts style - so thatā€™s now my hc.
then we go back to WF where sansa is crowned queen but sheā€™s not alone. brienne, pod, sam and gilly, arya, jon, davos, even edmureand robin arryn, theyā€™ll all be there and we see the celebrations afterwards where sansa just sits with her friends and laughs and theyā€™re all joking around and Arya says sheā€™ll leave on her ship in a few weeks. and oh yea the prince of dorne keeps sending sansa letters and annoying her and she thinks heā€™s unbearable but she also quite likes him and his cockiness and in the years to come heā€™ll visit the north and sansaā€™ll visit dorne quite a lot, when with brienne and pod and davos and co., when with her girlfriends and the relations between the northernmost and the southermost kingdoms of westeros have never been better and everyoneā€™s just wow and no you canā€™t convince me to change this hc, ever
and now to the main part
well, arya is on her ship and theyā€™re just abt to leave when she hears someone riding towards the harbor and gendry rides there completely sweaty and out of breath (bc he hated it at the stormā€™s end (he got to keep stormā€™s end after danyā€™s death and heā€™s spent his time there up until now) alone and it wasnā€™t him and he canā€™t bear it so when he heard arya was leaving he immediately jumped on a horse (or maybe he sails to north idk i have no idea of the time needed to travel from the stormlands to north? well he rides there and the timeframe has to fit that ANYWAY) and came to North and Sansa told him Arya had already left to the harbor but that he might make it and he did) and he jumps off his horse and jumps to the boat and just looks at arya and goesĀ ā€˜mā€™lady i would like to come with you if youā€™ll have meā€™ and arya smacks him bc god she hates when he talks like that but she canā€™t help herself (and okay oh FUCk gendry looks so FINE heā€™s even more muscular now and his hair has grown a bit and he has a slight stubble on his jaw and arya realizes sheā€™s checking him out and goddamn stop it) and she chuckles and they sail off together and just fuck off for a few years.
and then they come back a few years later and go to wf and sansa is there and sheā€™s now married to a handsome, strong, gentle, kind man from a northern house or from the riverlands or the vale or whatever and she has small twin boys and sheā€™s expecting her third child (sheā€™ll be a she and sheā€™ll be named lyanna catelyn btw) (the twin boys are named theon and robb and no iā€™m not crying you are) she got the family she deserves and the loving husband she deserves and sheā€™s now happy and right where she wants to be and no iā€™m not crying here itā€™s just allergies ā€˜s all
and arya smiles at her sister's newfound happiness and takes robb in her arms where the small boy giggles and pulls her hair and she and gendry stay in WF for a few weeks until they decide to travel to the stormlands together and theyā€™ll stay there, at least for a while but years pass and arya finds she quite likes the stormlands and living with gendry in the castle and riding around and visiting villages, talking with smallfolk and listening to their stories about anything and everything. and sooner or later she finds out sheā€™s pregnant and she has a crisis because she doesnā€™t want that she doesnā€™t want to be a mother she doesnā€™t know how and fuck what is she going to do but theyā€™ll figure something out, gendry promises, and arya believes him and she gives birth to a beautiful baby girl with the black hair of the baratheons but when she opens her eyes theyā€™re grey, startlingly so, the same Stark grey as hers and she cries and smiles and knows that sheā€™ll love her with all her heart
(and okay letā€™s just get this out there; bronn is not, not in any fucking universe, in any fucking decent version of this story the fucking lord of the reach, jesus fucking christ, i donā€™t care who is or if anyone just no one fucking give that man ANYTHING, much less a whole fucking kingdom) (like idk just ship him over the narrow sea to one of the free cities where he can whore around and drink himself to death all i care ffs) (also tyrion. tyrion can fuck off with bronn.) (so thatā€™ll leave the reach and the westerlands unruled but iā€™m sure bran already had a solution to this problem too bc he has seen it in advance (no shit) and find someone or two someones to rule the kingdoms.)
oh and you thought i forgot jon? well, jon got to spend about 6 weeks that side of the wall when he got a raven from his sister that told him to haul his sorry arse back home and he hesitates but he gets a new letter every week and after heā€™s received 8 he just fucking gives up (partly also bc tormund is getting really annoying with it and he pressures him to go back bc he saw one of the letters sansa sent and hasnā€™t shut up about how jon should just go back) and so jon goes back and heā€™s been pardoned and he is welcomed to the north but he knows that he can never forgive himself and that this betrayal. this deed is too bad to forgive and he goes to wf but sansa is there and she helps him through the bad days and listens to him when he needs to talk and she always finds ways to help him and the words to console him and gods she really is a treasure isnā€™t she? {and really the realm knows about him now, almost every major house throughout the kingdoms got varys's letters telling jon's parentage and sometimes someone would tentatively bring the subject up but jon always freezes and clenches his fists and looks like he's about to be sick and sansa or arya shoots a murderous glare in the direction of anyone who mentions this or sends a curt letter which usually shuts the other person up and jon is so grateful to his sisters because they understand and they know, even if at times sansa looks at him like she'd like him on the throne, like she's thinking about it and "what if's" are going through her head but then she sighs and lets those thoughts go because what can she do, really? it's over, it was a possibility a long time ago but not anymore. but he thinks about it too sometimes, wonders if it would've worked, wonders if he could've been that, a good king, a responsible leader. he knows he could've but he wouldn't have liked that. the capital. the people there, the castle. he likes it better in wf, where he belongs. the north.}
and then one day arya returns with gendry and the starks - the pack - are together again. ghost finally found nymeria and her pack roaming around in the woods at the border of riverlands and the north and it took a while but nymeria finally recognized him and one evening there are horrified screams all around the town and they can be heard in the castle and jon and sansa and arya are baffled but then they see what itā€™s about and arya rushes down with jon and sansa at her heel and itā€™s nymeria and ghost and nymeriaā€™s pack and arya hugs nymeria and ghost goes straight to jon but one of the wolves of the pack approaches sansa and nudges her belly and she stares at the animal in puzzlement but then she stoops down and scratches her behind her ear and she licks her face and from that day the wolf follows her everywhere.
and the wolves quickly form a kind ofĀ ā€œprotect all the starksā€ squad and a few of the younger wolves, more cubs than anything else, are especially fond of the twins, robb and theon, and on good winter days you can hear the happy laughter and delighted cries of the two toddlers from the godswood where they are playing with some of the wolves andā€“
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6angel6babie6 Ā· 5 years ago
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stealing this
i am stealing this fromĀ 
daddy
my best friend
tumblr user @bugmouths
1: 6 of the songs you listen to most?
Gemini Feed by Banks
Just the Same by Empress OfĀ 
What Are We Gonna Do Now by Indigo de SousaĀ 
The Sun is Bad by Indigo De SousaĀ 
700 Club by Nicole DollangangerĀ 
A Sunday Kind of Love by Etta JAmesĀ 
2: If you could meet anyone on this earth, who would it be?
Harry Styles :/
3: Grab the book nearest to you, turn to page 23, give me line 17.
ā€œYouā€™re entrusted with equipment that costs a fortuneā€ - Dear John
4: What do you think about most?
My friends and my sisterĀ 
5: What does your latest text message from someone else say?
Its two pictures of a writer that @bugmouths sent meĀ 
6: Do you sleep with or without clothes on?
Absolutely notĀ 
7: Whatā€™s your strangest talent?
Imitating voicesĀ 
8: Girlsā€¦ (finish the sentence); Boysā€¦ (finish the sentence)
Girls go to Jupiter to get more stupider boys go to college to get more knowledgeĀ 
9: Ever had a poem or song written about you?
No :(Ā 
10: When is the last time you played the air guitar?
I donā€™t even knowĀ 
11: Do you have any strange phobias?
SPIDERSĀ 
12: Ever stuck a foreign object up your nose?
Yeah a ds stylus, q-tips, coke
13: Whatā€™s your religion?
I donā€™t rlly knowā€¦ catholic alligned??Ā 
14: If you are outside, what are you most likely doing?
SmokingĀ 
15: Do you prefer to be behind the camera or in front of it?
behind
16: Simple but extremely complex. Favorite band?
La DisputeĀ 
17: What was the last lie you told?
I told my friends that i had plans with that i couldnā€™t hang out lol n
18: Do you believe in karma?
YesĀ 
19: What does your URL mean?
That i used to be a popular slut who felt evil but now its not rlly true.Ā 
20: What is your greatest weakness; your greatest strength?
Weakness: my mental health and clinginess. Strengths: Iā€™m caringĀ 
21: Who is your celebrity crush?
I have no manyĀ 
22: Have you ever gone skinny dipping?
absolutely not
23: How do you vent your anger?
I cry and isolate myself and drinkĀ 
24: Do you have a collection of anything?
I have really cool old envelopesĀ 
25: Do you prefer talking on the phone or video chatting online?
FacetimingĀ 
26: Are you happy with the person youā€™ve become?
no
27: Whatā€™s a sound you hate; sound you love?
Hate: chewing specifically sticky things. Love: trains
28: Whatā€™s your biggest ā€œwhat ifā€?
What if i had an childhoodĀ 
29: Do you believe in ghosts? How about aliens?
Absolutely to bothĀ 
30: Stick your right arm out; what do you touch first? Do the same with your left arm.
Right: a pillow Left: my wallĀ 
31: Smell the air. What do you smell?
It smells fresh cause my window is openĀ 
32: Whatā€™s the worst place you have ever been to?
Arizona i fucking loathe it thereĀ 
33: Choose: East Coast or West Coast?
Iā€™ve never seen east, so west.
34: Most attractive singer of your opposite gender?
Harry stylesĀ 
35: To you, what is the meaning of life?
No ideaĀ 
36: Define Art.
idk
37: Do you believe in luck?
yes
38: Whatā€™s the weather like right now?
Cold and windy
39: What time is it?
8:59
40: Do you drive? If so, have you ever crashed?
Yes, and no i havenā€™tĀ 
41: What was the last book you read?
I donā€™t remember honestlyā€¦Ā 
42: Do you like the smell of gasoline?
yes
43: Do you have any nicknames?
Dani is my nickname heheĀ 
44: What was the last film you saw?
It wasā€¦. Hm. I dont know. The Nun?Ā 
45: Whatā€™s the worst injury youā€™ve ever had?
I broke my leg :(Ā 
46: Have you ever caught a butterfly?
NoĀ 
47: Do you have any obsessions right now?
Probably a lotĀ 
48: Whatā€™s your sexual orientation?
pā€¦.an?
49: Ever had a rumour spread about you?
AbsolutelyĀ 
50: Do you believe in magic?
yes
51: Do you tend to hold grudges against people who have done you wrong?
Not frequentlyĀ 
52: What is your astrological sign?
Scorpio :)Ā 
53: Do you save money or spend it?
SPENDĀ 
54: Whatā€™s the last thing you purchased?
Mac n cheese and pizza rollsĀ 
55: Love or lust?
Um both. But lust cause its easier.Ā 
56: In a relationship?
no
57: How many relationships have you had?
Like 4 real onesĀ 
58: Can you touch your nose with your tongue?
YesĀ 
59: Where were you yesterday?
At my grandmasĀ 
60: Is there anything pink within 10 feet of you?
My vibratorĀ 
61: Are you wearing socks right now?
no
62: Whatā€™s your favourite animal?
snakes!!!!
63: What is your secret weapon to get someone to like you?
ā€œBaby and angel energyā€ im also funnyĀ 
64: Where is your best friend?
On ft with me at their houseĀ 
65: Give me your top 5 favourite blogs on Tumblr.
@bugmouths muah
66: What is your heritage?
Half mexican half irishĀ 
67: What were you doing last night at 12AM?
I was texting maria and dozing off, watching youtubeĀ 
68: What do you think is Satanā€™s last name?
Starts with a VĀ 
69: Be honest. Ever gotten yourself off?
Literally too oftenĀ 
70: Are you the kind of friend you would want to have as a friend?
I think so
71: You are walking down the street on your way to work. There is a dog drowning in the canal on the side of the street. Your boss has told you if you are late one more time you get fired. What do you do?
Save the dog probablyĀ 
72: You are at the doctorā€™s office and she has just informed you that you have approximately one month to live. a) Do you tell anyone/everyone you are going to die? b) What do you do with your remaining days? c) Would you be afraid?
a) I would tell my sister and my friends b) tell everyone how i feel ab them lol c) no
73: You can only have one of these things; trust or love.
trust
74: Whatā€™s a song that always makes you happy when you hear it?
Sleeping lessons by the shinsĀ 
75: What are the last four digits in your cell phone number?
lol
76: In your opinion, what makes a great relationship?
Idk iā€™m really bad at relationships
77: How can I win your heart?
Literally give me attentionĀ 
78: Can insanity bring on more creativity?
sometimes
79: What is the single best decision you have made in your life so far?
Um idk.Ā 
80: What size shoes do you wear?
Big ones for tall pplĀ 
81: What would you want to be written on your tombstone?
My name? idk
82: What is your favourite word?
I really dont know
83: Give me the first thing that comes to mind when you hear the word; heart.
Too bigĀ 
84: What is a saying you say a lot?
I love youĀ 
85: Whatā€™s the last song you listened to?
Whatever is playing on the other end of this ftĀ 
86: Basic question; whatā€™s your favourite colour/colours?
Mmm lately like white and yellow and pink
87: What is your current desktop picture?
Itā€™s the factory nature pics, i havenā€™t changed itĀ 
88: If you could press a button and make anyone in the world instantaneously explode, who would it be?
Me lol
89: What would be a question youā€™d be afraid to tell the truth on?
Iā€™m not even putting the question down bc i get nervous thinking abt itĀ 
90: One night you wake up because you heard a noise. You turn on the light to find that you are surrounded by MUMMIES. The mummies arenā€™t really doing anything, theyā€™re just standing around your bed. What do you do?
cry
91: You accidentally eat some radioactive vegetables. They were good, and whatā€™s even cooler is that they endow you with the super-power of your choice! What is that power?
teleportation
92: You can re-live any point of time in your life. The time-span can only be a half-hour, though. What half-hour of your past would you like to experience again?
ā€¦ picking out baby names on my old best friends bed with her and my exā€¦Ā 
93: You can erase any horrible experience from your past. What will it be?
Um my trauma lol.Ā 
94: You have the opportunity to sleep with the music-celebrity of your choice. Who would it be?
I want namjoon to give me the most gentle dick down imaginableĀ 
95: You just got a free plane ticket to anywhere. You have to depart right now. Where are you gonna go?
God im annoying. MinnesotaĀ 
96: Do you have any relatives in jail?
Yes i hope he rotsĀ 
97: Have you ever thrown up in the car?
nope
98: Ever been on a plane?
yes
99: If the whole world were listening to you right now, what would you say?
Are you mad at meĀ 
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janiedean Ā· 5 years ago
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So was discussing this with a friend. S8 s*ansa talking about r+L even tho jon asked her not to. Initially we were like book!s would never, but then my friend said book!s DID in book 1 (telling ned's plan to c). Now obviously these are 2 v different situations. Book!s was a kid who had NO idea abt the larger context of things, and she wasn't aware of the political games going on. She genuinely thought she was doing the Right thing or at least what would eventually benefit her and her family 1/2
~because if c and joff are happy it will benefit the starks. So my friend said s8 stuff wasn't all that different since she genuinely believed Dany was nuts and Westeros was better off without her and that jon couldn't see it because he loved her. Plus if jon ends up on the iron throne (which is what we thought she was getting at in telling tyrion) it's again good for the starks? What do you think? If nothing it made sense in the context of show!s considering LF her mentor? 2/2
... I... respectfully disagree on just about everything. In order:
as you said, book!sansa had no fucking idea what she was doing, she was being misled by both cersei and joffrey and she thought she was saving her father, not benefit her family, which is normal given that sheā€™s... twelve. or whatever;
now, the problem is that itā€™s bad writing if a character starts somewhere and arrives at the same place without nothing having fucking changed in betweenĀ unless itā€™s a movieĀ whose point is being depressing or specifically wants to be tragic, because like... circular writing for *long* series where people get invested in *character development*Ā means that we get at the same situation but with changed peopleĀ - for one, idk, itā€™s circular writing if jaimeā€™s last line in the series is the things I do for love after he idk knights brienne or saving tyrionā€™s life or doing something selfless, because we went from jaime who does things for love that are bad for himĀ and bad for everyone else involvedĀ to jaime doing things for love for good reasons, which is why among the other reasons the bells is a shit episode that doesnā€™t work on any level, so if sansa spills the truth about jon to tyrion exactly the way she did in got therefore causing harm and the only difference is that she knowsĀ sheā€™s causing harmĀ sansa hasnā€™t had any development outside ofĀ ā€˜wow she started as a sweet girl and now sheā€™s cersei 2.0ā€²;
on thatĀ sense, the entire point in sansa being mentored by lf in the book is that sheā€™s not going to turn out like him or cersei which is plenty obvious because itā€™s been four books and sheā€™s still kind and empathetic to everyone including people who hurt her, so thatĀ is not a legitimate writing choice imvho;
now, about sansa spilling about r+l, there is a whole other level of wrong in it, which we can further divide into the following categories: a) first of all for what THE SHOW told me, sansa basically decided dany was nuts and hated her because WHY THE FUCK NOT - there is no literal reason for show sansa to dislike dany that muchĀ when she went with jon to help, JON was the king so it was hisĀ decision to kneel, she didnā€™t hurt the northerners and she arrived with an army to kill the goddamned zombies, so basically by the point she spills to tyrion she seems like sheā€™s doing that out of pettiness - honest, by 8x04 dany hadnā€™t... looked nutsĀ or anything, and Iā€™m saying it as someone who doesnā€™t care about dany but thinks that if S8 did oneĀ thing was making you root for her even if you previously didnā€™t; b) sansa swore in front of a heart tree (which is sacred to northerners) that she wouldnā€™t spill and then she did, which is... not that great; c) more than that, it was going against jonā€™s wishes because jon made overtly clear that he didnā€™t want the throne, that he didnā€™t want to act on his rights and that he knelt to dany and that he wasnā€™t interested in challenging her claim, so if sansa wanted him to be king she was basically ignoring what HE wanted without even consulting with him first, which is an incredibly bad breach of trust on her side that honestly, if I had been jon in the finale Iā€™d have told her to fuck off and that I never wanted to see her again XĀ°DD like you donā€™t put people on thrones when they didnā€™t ask you to out of disliking the legitimate ruler that your brother who was king at the moment bent the knee toĀ because you presumably.... want the independent north which in the books is a thing that will happen because branĀ is 100% the next kitn, but is not a thing inherently seen as morally better or more just than any other option and which neither ned nor robb actually wanted, so.... no;
ā€˜dany being nutsā€™ was a decision dnd took without even planning it well because she basically lost it without oneĀ single illegitimate reason - I mean, again considering that I donā€™t care for dany and I think sheā€™s a good khaleesi but not a great ruler and that her adwd stint confirms it and that sheā€™s not endgame ruler for the end of the books... what I see in S8 is that the poor girl goes to winterfell to help them and sansa treats her like shit and everyone treats her like shit, she has to see one of her dragons die once, jorah diesĀ in front of her, when she tries to mingle with the others she gets treated like she doesnā€™t belong, then it turns out that her new boyfriend is her nephew and a threat to her claim which she has staked her entire storyline on, then almost all of her closest advisors decide to turn against her for wtf reasons when she said from the beginning that she was there to kill cersei and reclaim her rights, thenĀ she loses her second dragon and her best friend in the span of one day, then during the bells she goes berserk because they decided to give her jonconā€™s storyline out of nowhere and bc dnd havenā€™t even read the first version of the first dance with dragons, but like... honestly at that point myĀ opinion wasĀ ā€˜if she goes and dracaryses the entire continent Iā€™ll just cheer because what the fucking fuck is this they just made her sympathetic and sansa looks like a cold scheming asshole which is not the character I loveā€™, so like... where is the truth? the truth is that dnd decided to go with that shit ending where maybe 5% was grrmā€™s thing (I mean the small council made of cripples bastards and broken things isĀ a grrm thing, how they get there.... no) and dany didnā€™t feature in it and they didnā€™t know how to finish and they went with that also because they knew most fake feminist press was rallying behind the ā€˜sansa as queen in the north who needs no manā€™ bullshit storyline so what the fuck letā€™s just go with that, and like.... again: as someone who doesnā€™t gaf about dany in the books, that was just not it period
tldr: s8 sansa makes sense maybeĀ if we take her as a separate character who has nothing to do with her book self and that dnd wrote to be cersei lite except slightly more likable, but her actions make no sense, her writing makes no sense and hasnā€™t since they gave her theonā€™s fucking sl in S5 and there is literally nothing past episode 8x02 except maybe four scenes that actually makes any shred of narrative sense as an adaptationĀ and within the showā€™s context, since a lot of stuff is basically characters contradicting each other. I said what I said. /shrug
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