#because apparently ''this thing you're doing is ableist and also making me suicidal'' is just me being lost in the fandom sauce

[hussyknee]

TW: 200th rant about the stupid "HP fans are all complicit in antisemitism and transphobia" discourse, brought to you by my OCD-induced suicidality.

I've by now become so wary of trans people and enbies on social media, especially Jewish ones. I'm like "this person is GOING to be on their Harry Potter bullshit and trigger the hell out of my OCD" and my hackles go up automatically. Then my OCD goes "haha you hate them because they're Jewish and/or trans, you're an antisemitic transphobe so they're clearly right about people who defend HP! SUFFER bitch!" Cue hell loop until my brain is flayed over anything nobody actually even said or did.

I don't even LIKE HP that much anymore, why is wanting to stop having PTSD episodes about stupid shit the thing that also dropkicks me down seven circles of hell??? It's made all the so-called "leftist" enclaves of the internet a minefield. Why are people with OCD everyone's favourite collateral when it comes to stuff shitty rich assholes do? Is it so fucking hard to stop making up thought crimes to attack people over??

It's an extra layer of horrible when the same people have no problems applying "no ethical consumption under capitalism" to stuff like Coca Cola and Nestlé products. Y'all can't possibly live without child slavery chocolate or making brown people drink Nestlé's toxic filth or anything that's subjecting Indigenous communities and people in entire Global South continents to long, lingering, horrible deaths, but this one franchise whose author royalties are funding the UK transphobic lobby is the one line that matters. Fuck all the trans people in those places I guess. Every single Global North consumer moral policing is western leftists's dehumanization of our people writ large. Fuck all of you.

[saltymcsaltything]

TIL that the K-12 Special Education version of "Active Listening" is called "Whole Body Listening" and it is just as fucking ableist

*CW/TW: Suicidal ideation*

Credit to the article "What's The Problem With Whole Body Listening?" at Parenting Autistic Children With Love & Acceptance (PACLA) -

https://autloveaccept.wordpress.com/2015/03/25/whats-the-problem-with-whole-body-listening/comment-page-1/?fbclid=IwAR0DsNa_wqcCUuz2PbbQARqipQvZkbdJkun346V-SqnExGn0fm4zPyX2j5s

Spoiler alert: I fucking hate active listening and it's neuronormative "body language" and nonverbal communication. Those expectations in the workplace are disabling. I won't shut up about it anytime I see some bullshit workplace training with "Eye contact, warm smile, fork handshake, open posture" and all the usual bullshit. If I am doing all of that *I am not listening effectively* because I can't fake normal for your benefit and process the words you are saying at the same time. Hell, I am lucky if I understand your jargony, vague, vapid workplace patter even when I am not busy pretending to be normal so as not to be treated like bullshit.

Unsurprisingly, but infuriatingly, the education system pushes the same compliance-based normative agenda for the comfort of neurotypicals, even though evidence shows that coercing autistic people into masking behaviors leads to long term harm including suicide. I've been in that place where I have been pushed well past my capacity to mask and was hovering on that precipice because of violence I experienced in the workplace - I reached a point where I did not see a way to survive if it continuer and an escape plan where I at least could stop the pain felt necessary. I was lucky I was able to hang on long enough to get help and wasn't pushed any further before I started to slowly recover.

So apparently, Special Education classrooms have *this little fucker* saying "for everyone else's benefit, please hurt yourself in the following ways to show you're listening!"

Hey Larry! You're a garbage ass little bootlicker! Tell the ableist shitstains that created you and shill their harmful "Social Skills" training that hurts autistic kids that I hope they hammer car splat.

It's Active Listening with bright colors and a cartoon bully.

And half of this shit doesn't even make sense. If I am faking normal by focusing on the first 6 things on Larry's checklist of self-abuse, I don't have the capacity for the last two.

Also, you have to actually care about my needs for me to care about what you're saying. If you've proven that you don't by expecting me to behave in a way that hurts me and impede my ability to communicate, then frankly, I don't give a shit about anything you say beyond comprehending enough for me to protect myself from you.

The article linked above skewers Larry brilliantly and is definitely worth a read, but I wanted to share their edited poster here because I think it might be useful. I am open about my autism and assorted co-occuring conditions at work and I want this hanging in my workspace - I will have to edit in "Active Listening" to match the workplace version, but I am hoping it will ruffle some feathers. And I am more than happy to tell anyone who thinks Active Listening is somehow an appropriate thing to force onto people in the workplace just how harmful it and other normative expectations couched as "communication skills" really are.

tl;dr - Fuck Active/Whole Body Listening

[nerdby]

I've been very depressed lately cause I've hated all of the print novels I rented from the library and it makes me feel like a failure as a book nerd. Well, I haven't hated all of them -- I tried reading Who Fears Death by Nnedi Okorafor, but I keep getting hung up on the fact that I can't pronounce the names and things correctly and it makes me feel as though I'm being very rude to the characters and author. So now I feel like I need to learn Igbo in order to properly enjoy the book and no offense to Nnedi Okorafor but that sounds more interesting than any fantasy novel.

I'm saying that cause I'm somewhat of a language nerd and cause I also kinda have this fantasy of moving overseas somewhere to become a research zoologist or photojournalist. Like when I was a kid I wanted to learn Swahili, so I could go to Africa and study wild cats. I'm using Duolingo to learn Spanish right now and part of me wants to run away and start over in Argentina or somewhere. But I feel like that would probably be a terrible idea and it's also impossible to immigrate if you're disabled in some cases. Cause apparently a lot of foreign countries don't want to accept immigrants they see as a strain on the economy.

And in a way that's kinda fair but it's also incredibly ableist eugenics bullshit. Cause it's like you try getting an interview in a foreign country with no work experience. I can't even get an interview in New York State without work experience💀 I have been wanting to apply for volunteer positions, but most of the volunteer work in my area is run by conservative Christian charities who I've had negative encounters with. The group home I was in for a while was run by the local Catholic Charities.

Except for the animal shelters and me doing volunteer work in an animal shelter is a terrible idea for a whole bunch of other reasons.

I would want to adopt all of them, basically. Like I can't tell you the number of times I've nearly bankrupted myself putting together an aquarium, so that I could save PetSmart betta fish. That was until it was pointed out to me that it's probably best for all involved if aquarium keeping as a hobby just ceased to exist because of the excess of animal deaths that result from both sheer nonchalance and martyrs with savior complexes who don't have the experience to successfully maintain an aquarium. Like people will purposely overstock aquariums for aesthetic reasons and that results in animal death every freaking time, and of course there are idiots who think microaquariums are humane.

They aren't.

Microaquariums are animal abuse.

But yeah.... There's also the issue that I tend to prefer contemporary literature over fantasy. Contemporary literature is just like the slice-of-life genre, basically. It's where romance novels end up when they don't have a "happy ending" but books like A Man Called Ove by Frederik Backman also fall into the genre. I like other genres, too, especially thrillers and horror and I used to be really into scifi before I realized I hate space operas. Space operas are like Star Trek -- a soap opera set in space and I don't know that I hate all of them ever. But all of the ones that I've been recommended extremely corny and full of wishfulment. Which I hate because it feels so unrealistic to me.

And I feel like by this point you're wondering, "Jfc, what is wrong with this guy?" I've been suicidal since I was 12 cause my family was abusive and me being ND and queer just made me an easy target for bullies. So I'm aware that my perspective is definitely skewed. Ish.

Cause hasn't real life always been pretty dramatic?

Anyway, I'm done rambling. I just wanted to post this cause I needed to vent my frustrations a bit. So yeah.....

[davekat-sucks]

Weird that people give Dave a pass for everything because he is an abuse victim.

My father was abused as a child, he was beat cruelly, insulted, and even once his father got this mirror, a mirror used to see behind horses, and had my father look at it and say he was nothing but a horse's ass. He was abused from birth until his mother took all her kids and ran away when he was still a child and eventually did get adopted by his mom's new husband. I can say he was a child who was abused in every way possible. HOWEVER. My father then later abused me. Still abuses me. From birth to present. He would do everything but hit me, because he knew my mom would literally kill him for that, but he still did everything he could to make my life hell.

My father's childhood is a reason to why he is the way he is, but is not an excuse. It doesn't make what he does okay. Nor would it be okay if I abused my wife or was toxic to her because of my #tragicbackstory

I do appreciate Dave's backstory, even his speech about abuse not making him stronger, like is stereotypically believed, but I still criticize him as a person. Rose Lalonde was neglected, depressed, cynical, all because her mother was such an alcoholic that she would rather drink than check on her daughter. We see Rose even threatening suicide with her strife vs her mom and the mom disregards it. Rose already had a pre disposition to alcoholism and addictive behavior due to her mom, but then deals with childhood depression and gets traumatic event after event happening and this results in her becoming an alcoholic too. And no, hussie, you don't cure alcoholism. Once you are an addict, you always are. It just changes over time. Rose literally believed even to her death in game over that SHE was a bad daughter, that her mom was great, she blamed herself. And no! Irl she would've been visited by cps. Although the mom is rich so probably nothing would've happened.

That's not even touching the tragedy of Jade Harley. Jade who could've seen her friends at any point, but Bec freaking kept her (ignorantly) captive on the island instead of teleporting her to see anyone. She was born alone and lived that way for her whole childhood.

I even criticize Dad Egbert, who people view as a saint and if you criticize him you must be a douchebag. John Egbert clearly suffered with depression even before the game began. He spoke in the first act about losing interest in things he used to love, being frustrated even, he also kept telling his dad he didn't like Betty crocker shit anymore but he didn't listen! Any good parent would see that something is wrong and get their kid help. Love does not cure depression. I think dad did love John, but that alone doesn't help mental illness. John in the epilogues even suffers from extreme depression, guilt, dread, and feels empty. He was also traumatized like the other kids, hell, seeing his dad dead would be enough to get diagnosed with PTSD for some psychs. But nooooooo he is perfectly fine! His dad is soooo nice why should he be upset? Why be so sad John? (I'm mocking Rose, who literally was like "yeah you're dad is nice so why are you upset John." I'll criticize everyone here)

People replying to you need to stop being so vitriolic. DaveKat can be fun, but dear God, if you think hussie put it in for anything but brownie points you are deluded. The man who knew he had bad pr because he literally had Karkat calling people the r slur, he even called Vriska the f slur due to her future self's screen name. Feferi called Jade the r slur. Vriska is a sexual abuser and also ableist early on. The man even said Kanaya wasn't a lesbian, just had a fetish for women. "TROLL JEWISH." Is apparently what Terezi is because she has a big nose. We have a word for that fellas! Hell, in the epilogues, DIRK CONTROLS DAVE TO MAKE OUT WITH KARKAT. He controls Rose/Manipulates her and she calls him Daddy and flirts with him. He uses his powers to do this. He even laments and is made at calliope for not making Dave and Karkat make out in candy and instead having them just talk. Hussie views DaveKat as a novelty. He views RoseMary probably as a fetish (a ship I don't like, sorry Kanaya, you don't exist outside of rose anymore and never will, good thing in hs2 you get cucked in both timelines)

Hell, let's address Jade and Rose's kid. I'm trans. People say Jade is trans because she has a dog dick from bec, this is even canonical. Yeah. Why people are okay with this I'll never know. But Rose cheats on Kanaya. It's cheating. It's straight up cheating. It's not an open relationship. It's clearly closed. Hell, in the other epilogue she becomes a robot and says fuck you Kanaya I'm with my kind of dad now. (Then again the hs2 writers actually don't like rosemary so. But if hussie didn't enjoy this then he would've said something about it. I guess as long as they don't touch his femdom fetish Vriska he is okay with it)

Everything you said here is very well said! Say it loud and proud!

[simonalkenmayer]

I really want someone to explain what it is that you did, or are doing, that's so ableist and antisemitic and all that. Seriously, I went looking a while ago and just found that you're antisemitic because... the tupperware, of course. Your nose, apparently? And for committing "blood libel", though they refused to explain what that was (and got mad when people googled it because I guess you're supposed to blindly trust them?)

What it all seemed to boil down to is that you're jewish coded, I guess? Why they're not just going after actual nazis instead is beyond me though. I'd support them if they went that route, but instead they're really really angry about you and your... historical inaccuracies? Maybe they should go after the people who make inaccurate history textbooks... there are so many more productive things to do than sending you suicide bait 🤧 they could even try actually educating you if they know so much better. In fact I'd follow a blog meant to fact check the things you say, politely and with sources, faster than you could down your taco bell.

Eh, I don’t really know or care. I think the presumption is that because I must be false, then everything is made up, and because it’s made up, I must have purposefully chosen the symbols I did. Now, I will buy that, but they’ve unfortunately made a severe series of illogical leaps. And I can point out two prominent ones for you now

If I were going to make up a monster that accounts for all the monster myths on earth, the creature would have to be an average of all the most prominent or constantly represented characteristics to achieve that universality. Like sharp teeth, yes? And perhaps nose and eyes are quite prominently discussed in many myths about many monsters from all around the world. Most of the monsters that are pointed to as being “Jewish coded” as you say, have long and complex lineages, and in fact, often spring from Jewish communities. Many in fact predate the depiction of Jewish people as having long or hooked noses. Not to mention that I have said hardly anything about my nose. If you read my books, you will see that I mention it only once and say that it isn’t overly large, just obvious. I was referring to the bone structure. They made the assumption it had to be antisemitic, because they wanted to find fault. A component to this leap, is that I discuss my Tupperware. The human parts are kept in red lidded Tupperware, the regular meat is in blue. Apparently red is religiously significant to the Jewish faith. As it happens, it’s significant in every faith, including Christianity, in which I did a brief stint, and means different things—though in my case it just stands for STOP. It’s also one of the most prominent colors of Tupperware. I have no idea what the blood libel nonsense is about. Maybe it has to do with the fact that once I taste your blood, I remember you and can find you like a bloodhound? Has anyone checked the dog’s politics?

The second leap they made has to do with what they don’t seem to be able to comprehend: that this is actually an experiment. If someone were to walk up to you and say “I’d like to explain this racist/sexist/bigoted conspiracy theory to you and then get your opinion on it” you wouldn’t immediately presume that this person believes said theory. They’re simply telling it to you and then asking you what you think. Yet because I’ve asked the question “do you believe in monsters” they presume that not only are they right about all the assumptions above, but that I believe in and support the anti-Jewish agenda of the Nazis. Part of that is anchored in my statement made once, that I would not participate in any religious ritual, partly for my own comfort, and partly so that those participating out of belief, can keep the sanctity of their practice. This apparently made me Jewish adverse.

The ableism remarks come from me refusing to tag my posts in a way thay permits people to screen my posts. I don’t do this because it would shift the materials based on filters. Meaning it taints the data. For example, If you filter for things like videos, you won’t see any of the posts I make about videos I suggest might be my species. Therefore you never see that information. It also has to do with me not wanting to put a TLDR on my posts. My argument is, I build arguments, and so do not use them, because the argument will be constructed for you. If you, the reader, cannot handle lengthy posts, then my apologies, but this content isn’t for you, and you should move along. If you cannot handle discussing things that may be real or not, then this isn’t for you. That’s why the disclaimer exists.

There is no winning. But I’m not here to win. They are free to think whatever stupid nonsense they like.

As for my “factual inaccuracies”…point them out. In detail. Read every story I’ve written and find them. I say, more than once, that my memory isn’t perfect, but I do my level best to try and make certain I have my facts straight. Do you remember what you had for breakfast last week? Do you remember all the nitty gritty details of every day? Compound your life tenfold and see if you remember anything. Do the research. I give my name. I give my locations and dates. I give the names of places and vessels and even maps. The trouble here is, that most of the history I describe, is so far back, there’s ten different and conflicting accounts. Believe what you want to believe, but do your research. But don’t you dare suppose that a swift google search will be enough to get an accurate picture, and yes, blame the white washed, nationalist, propagandist textbooks of ten generations of historians who couldn’t accurately record their own name spellings.

None of it matters. None of it. Because I am asking your opinion. If that’s your opinion, then fill out a survey and move along. Do something productive.

But the truth is they can’t, and the fact is, I know they can’t. I’ve been studying online bullying all along as a component to this, because I knew I’d see it. That’s what happens when you claim to be non-human, or eat people. You see the bullies pop out, and you can study how online bullying happens, the patterns, the ripples, and how it affects a group. These are bullies, and they don’t like that I call them that, and they want the attention they think they can get, by sticking themselves to me. Why else use my name in theirs? Especially with how much anon hate I get. They want attention, and so they game in order to get it, as my data will inevitably show.

But if they want to scream about Tupperware, they may be my guests.

[thefeistydragon]

Finally figured out how to delete comments (had to unblock assholes first, then delete, then reblock), so maybe just maybe the harassment will actually stop.

Funny how people will crow about preventing harm to other people or not being a bigot while actively harassing people in ways specifically targeting autistic people. Real fun.

Also funny (read: hypocritical) how people will go on about "listen to the experiences of x marginalized group" while actively throwing another group under the bus.

Somehow, they can see it isn't okay to throw trans mascs under the bus to get a point across (true) but think it's totally fine to let disabled people be collateral to a point. And when someone points out "Hey don't further ableism to get your point across" it's "I can't be ableist I have X condition."

They'll say that unironically while recognizing not every trans person has the same experiences. And not every POC or Jewish person or woman or any other marginalized group, even if they come from practically the same background, is going to have the same experiences. And that internalized bigotry is a thing.....except for ableism I guess?

Which is especially wild considering how varied the conditions that all fall under "disability" are. You literally, as a human, cannot know the entirety of how every disability out there works. It's mentally impossible.

What worries me is that someone who is supposedly a disability advocate irl unironically thinks they can determine what other people are triggered by, and that triggers are exactly 1 to 1 to trauma. Rather than a complicated brain response to trauma that sometimes don't make any sense.

Like literally unironically think that reading the first hand account of a survivor of trauma can't trigger someone with similar trauma if they didn't go through the exact same situation.

And that other conditions can't be triggered by things the person hasn't experienced 1 to 1. Like, tell that to people with ocd or psychosis and you're not going to come off as a disability advocate. You're going to come across as an ableist conservative who thinks their condition is fake.

That's not how any of that works, and with a view like that they're going to hurt people.

I've already been getting harassed about this for weeks by people who unironically will say they're preventing harm.

That kind of thinking is along the lines of the bs "You should be triggered" stuff that's going around. Which, say you don't actually understand mental health issues without saying you don't understand mental health issues.

Having a condition doesn't mean you're immune to holding incorrect views about it. Hell, there are people with diagnosed depression who go around telling other people to just smile all the time and it'll "fix them", and that they just need to "be more positive" (one of my friends' aunts for example).

That doesn't make the person right, doesn't make them immune to internalized ableism. And definitely doesn't make them immune to ableism against or an expert on any condition they don't even have.

Also someone bringing up something they personally went through and the resulting effect of trauma, and essentially telling them "Well I went through that and am not triggered by it so obviously people aren't triggered by that" is...such a cold take.

I went through the exact same trauma as someone close to me. As in we're survivors of the same traumatic incident. And we both have different triggers and have recovered differently.

Everyone is different, and all you're doing is echoing ableist conservative rhetoric when you accuse people of faking.

(For context, apparently people wanting warnings for a particular piece of media that contains graphic human rights abuses, as well as interpersonal emotional abuse, boundary violation, extreme unsanitary conditions, brutal death, suicidal ideation, and multiple cases of actual suicide, are being bigoted.

Because they "should" be triggered, because the things that happened that are being talked about are horrible.

Which. No. The topic is unpleasant. Uncomfortable. Not good. It's normal to feel uncomfortable or angry or horrified or to despair at the cruelty of humanity.

But being triggered isn't any of that. And it doesn't help people to learn to be thrown into a mental health crisis. It especially doesn't help to have their experiences with that denied afterwards and to be told they're a terrible person for it, or that they "should" have gone through that.

Either people are fundamentally misunderstanding what being triggered is for mental health conditions, and are aiding actual bigots in appropriating the term, or they're so unbelievably exceedingly cruel to disabled people I don't know where to begin.)

Fun thing, you don't exactly learn history properly if you're disocciating, panicking, or otherwise mentally having a crisis or checking out.

And backing up conservative "Those snowflakes and their trigger warnings" rhetoric because conservatives have decided to co-opt the need for them to "justify" banning media? Is ableism. It's throwing disabled people under the bus and calling people bigoted for just having mental health issues and trying to manage them, rather than addressing any of the issues around censorship or people avoiding responsibility for learning about history.

Tldr, I'm tired of getting harassed by people who think someone with contamination based ocd scrubbing their skin to bleeding for days after reading something is lying about it. Or who think the previously mentioned person should have to go through that because the topic being covered was about atrocities.

Oh yeah and that people with PTSD own the word trigger, and that it always manifests exactly like theirs. Pretty tired of that too.

[rjalker]

Any type of salt fics you are not fond of, I personally never liked the maribat fics as a concept since I am not a fan of Damian Wayne and I personally don’t see marinette even tolerating him or his attitude, I mostly just tolerate his presence in salt fics, plus I am puzzled about people propping up chloe in these fics especially since before chameleon I was struggling in trying to find fics where Chloe got her just deserts

I don't care about DC Comics so the only reason I know that Damian Wayne even exists is because of the Meredith fix, and so many people weren't even tagging them or treating them is Crossovers and I just got sick of it so I know just hate him literally just because of that. My sister, who is in the same room as me just interjected because she is also reading these stupid ass things, and apparently Damien is just a random literal serial killer dude who likes to murder people for fun.

Why the fuck would you replace Adrian or God forbid Felix with a murderer. How is that literally any better. What in the fuck.

As for the actual question, I hate salt fix that aren't actually salt. They're just bashing, but the author doesn't fucking want to admit that, and doesn't know the difference between in character and out of character. I hate so-called salt fix where all your is turned into a racist caricature in a violent bully because the author is not even pretending not to be racist, and they insist that that is her actual personality, she is actually a terrible violent abusive friend to Suicide Bates Marinette and literally tries to poison her.

I haven't seen a single, actual salt fic that I did not like. But that is heavily dependent on the author actually knowing what is and is not salt. Which 99% of this fandom not only does not know, but actively refuses to understand.

If you're having Miss bustier go around fucking trying to Suicide bait her students, having her kidnapper students, having her be an actual fucking serial killer, that's not salt. If you have Adrian randomly freaking proposing to Marinette while in the middle of her getting married, that's not something. Especially if he doesn't even know that she's ladybug. I literally don't know where people are getting these fucking ideas from.

If the author actually knows what is in character and what is not and what is realistic and what is not, that is salt, and I have yet to see a fic with these prerequisites that was bad. It's everything else that's the issue.

But at this point I literally just try to avoid fanfiction for this fandom unless I have written it myself, because this fandom is filled with racists, ableist, and really fucking proud pedophiles. So I try not to read it, so or if there are any recent Trends in disgusting Behavior, I probably have yet to see it, because I blocked 99% of the people who do it.

But yeah. Any so-called salt fix that are just completely out of character and it completely ridiculous and having the characters act ways that make literally zero sense just to justify the hatred that is being directed towards them is not salt, and these people can't even admit that it's out of character, so it's just terrible writing. Especially with all your bashing. Which is just straight-up racist. These people can't even admit that it is out of character for all yet to suicide rate Marinette. So it literally just precludes them from being good at writing., and then they of course have to come up with even more racist excuses for why they are being racist, such as, the show did it first therefore I am not responsible.

I just don't like this fandom. I do not trust this fandom. If somebody wants to send me some fix that are actually well written and actually in character and are not racist or ableist or misogynistic, maybe I read them, but maybe not, it would depend on if they were actually well written or not.