#bc no one cared to preserve it!! THAT is the part of the systemic misogyny
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they cut off my tags on that thoreau post. i wrote like much more of a rant and tumblr didnt even tell me they were cuttin it before i pressed post
#listen. i would've been more concise if you made me#tales from diana#i get so passionate on the topic of pre-nineteenth-century female writers and their systemic exclusion from the literary canon#it drives me up a wall i could truly talk forever and ever about all of these misconceptions#lately the one that gets under my skin is 'look at these (well-remembered) female writers who wrote under a pen name'#my god especially if it's a MALE (or gender-neutral) pen name#first of all. the brontes did not have 'male' pen names. the gender of the bells was not known or presumed#but the assumption is that these ppl were trying to hide their gender rather than many ppl chose not to disclose their identity#bc they didnt want their identity to be known.#also many many many women chose unambiguously feminine pen names. ephelia or astrea or laura or lesbia#(yes very often aping latin/classical conventions)#or what jane austen published her work under initially? A Lady#that's not someone trying to avoid being judged as a woman but someone trying not to be known personally in the world. understandably#and many many early novelists were women. the novel was not a respected art form AT ALL in its early years#so it wasn't that controversial that many of the biggest novelists were women.#as the novel grew in perceived sophistication and respectability. the feminine aspect of its identity waned away slowly#and now the generations of aphra behns and eliza haywoods and fanny burneys and ann radcliffes are forgotten entirely#bc no one cared to preserve it!! THAT is the part of the systemic misogyny#not that zero women ever wrote or published anything. far from it#but it took a considerable amount of resourcefulness and/or privilege to achieve that in the first place#and even with that being accomplished. people did not value it enough to preserve it for future generations#we would not have shakespeare like we do without the first folio. that's a very significant historical fact in his legacy.#we'd have maybe a dozen or so plays. not 38.#but even today you do not go into a bookstore and find the complete works (or even plays) of aphra behn anywhere.#or susanna centlivre or mary pix or hannah cowley#how many people do you know who recognize those names? let alone how many people do you know who have READ their works?#very few. and they are not easy to fucking find anywhere either!#and often unless they've been selected in a series like oxford's world classics (god bless oxford's world classics btw!!!)#you won't find them except from very select sellers and often very expensively#many such early women novelists and playwrights have works so rare you cannot find them duplicated on public access sources
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Bro takes after the abSOLUTE WORST parts of those stereotypical âconservativeâ worldviews. Like, none of that nice âfidelity to your spouseâ stuff. Social status as an order of obedience? Yeah, indubitably. Blind adherence to laws and lawmakers? Adulation is his mind. Habitual misogyny? That shit FEEDS him. Itâs gonna be funny af to have the contrast between this young, well read scholar, and
But then it doesnât make sense~~~ how are you gonna read about philosophy and living at every le
OH FECK ohoho, broâs entire young adult formation was behind the heavily censored walls of the iron fortress for a feckin decade, so OBVIOUSLY books would have similarly been censored! And without the guidance of a parent, heâs gonna follow the rule of âpreserve all booksâ to be sure, but still he doesnât have a properly
But bro was literally 10 ish when they died off qwq thatâs DEFINITELY enough time to form a proper moral system :(((((
How about, bro starts off as a nice, respectful to everyone, benefit of the doubt, open minded to individual differences little lad, and under the tutorship of his mentor bro is like âoh shit everyone in this world kinda sucksâ and behaviours such as overt gossip, cruelty, nepotism (lmao), selfish ego, etc. Start to take root in his young, impressionable brain.
Thereâs still the motivation and hate towards the queen, sure; his memories are sweetened with every passing year, he yearns for the idyllic peace of his childhood. He wants the current queen gone - sheâs an imposter - and the ârightful heirâ of the original bloodline (would make sense if his family has a tradition of scholar work and hence passed down some notions of genetic prestige) restored.
But Iâd just say that these values more influence his behaviour than his goals (though of course both are affected in some way). Bro is a basically a snobby, uptight dingus:
- believes in law and order above practicality (gonna be SO difficult to conceptualise bc I personally am on the very opposite of this philosophical spectrum qvq) [to justify lineage nobility over systems of meritocracy, for example]
- blood prestige; believes noble / historical blood predispositions one for gentility (or gentility as defined by the nobility, anyways), raised in the âproper waysâ, attuned to politics in ways that the common human is incapable of even learning
- habitual misogyny; believing the capacities of the female sex are inherently frailer than their male counterparts (honestly, heâd be baffled by trans people, but heâd see trans women to be skilfully superior to trans men, similarly on the basis of biology - is this a form of trans inclusive mis no itâs not really nvm [that video meme is so cracked and I adore it])
- adherence to laws and order; he was raised to hold great respect for the monarchy and its adherents by his family (his parents were kinda mad simps for the monarchs ngl) and he absolves any cognitive dissonance between seeing an injustice to his morality as a result of the law by perceiving the latter to be an absolute system which must not be disobeyed
The thing with this characterisation is that I hold different beliefs qwq
OOH Wait The rule and order thing can be justified as âis every defence an attack upon the court?â Salem style. Where he trusts in the inherent stability of the law and does not believe the benefits of changing it / allowing exceptions will lead to a better collective outcome?
Idk or I could just make him go the route of ânon-noble people (working class, bastards, etc.) are writhing maggots clinging to the soles of calf leather boots and may be disregarded as mere inhuman creatures, whom can be pitied but not trusted in or cared forâ (bestial comparisons! Would also be the root of âoh yeah study doesnât matter for plebs bc theyâll never be able to be as smart as even the most idiotic nobleâ
Would justify established systems and institutions by âoh nobles made them and hence they are sacred and wiser (èżȘć type thinking lmao) by associationâ
it would be 1) easier to determine his reactions to stimuli bc itâs such a black and white worldview, and 2) would be an amusing alternative to racist or misogynistic outcomes bc, oh, yeah no, if you discriminate on basis of phenotype or religion thatâs so brain dead! The REAL WAY is to hit up their family tree and check for that blood purity ykyk?
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Sen Ăal Kapımı ep 48 asks
THE EPISODE WHERE THEY FINALLY GOT MARRIED!!!!!!!
SERKAN AND EDA ARE MARRIED!!
FINALLY!
YES!!!!!!!!!
Okay, now that I got that out of my system, asks under the read more.
andhewonherheart asked: @andhewonherheart I love that Bolat is Aydanâs last name, not Alptekinâs. I know itâs a little of a retcon, but this way we donât need to worry about Serkan and his family carrying that manâs name. And Aydan would be a woman that strongarms her husband into taking her last name.
I LOVED THIS! I sat up straight when Kemal made the comment about Alptekin taking her name and cheered. Seriously. What a great turn of events. Serkan is so attached to his name, itâs nice that he didnât have to have an identity crisis over that on top of everything else. And now itâs not weird for Eda and Kiraz to take his name after finding out Kemal is actually his father, which I wanted for them. I wanted them all to be tied together with a name, to have that feeling of belonging. Plus, as you say, itâs nice they donât have the name of that man.Â
I will say one thing, though... is it really a retcon? Did they ever say Bolat was Alptekinâs given last name? I donât think they did (but who knows with the iffy translations we all rely on). I do remember Aydan bragging on the lineage of the Bolats in a very early episode (maybe 2?) and at the time I thought it was odd that she was so proud of the lineage when she just married into it, especially because if memory serves she was sort of heckling Eda, who was marrying a Bolat. Perhaps this was always intended, and we only feel like itâs a retcon because weâre programmed by a patriarchal society to assume a woman always take a manâs last name?
Anonymous asked: I donât really like the idea of Serkan giving up Art Life. I understand the symbolism of him giving up his work for his family, but I wouldâve preferred that he finds a balance, like he did with bringing Kiraz to work. I feel like that wouldâve been a more rounded way of approaching his character, instead of swinging him in the other direction, now instead of having only work, he only has his family. When he could have both.
He will have both. Eventually. Heâll figure it out and get back to where he was. He is Serkan Bolat after all. You donât expect him to sit idle for any length of time, do you?
As much as part of me was just torn up at him selling his stake in the company, I thought it was really beautiful. Sure, balance is good, but this is a man who has ripped out Edaâs heart twice by telling her that work is more important than she is to him. This is a man who left ON HIS WEDDING DAY, who put work first ON HIS WEDDING DAY, who got on a plane ON HIS WEDDING DAY because he tried to balance (do both, go to Italy and get married in one day) and it ended up putting them both through hell and almost ruining both of their lives.
Picture how you would feel if the person you were marrying decided to fly to another country on your wedding day?Â
So I disagree with you. Iâm more than fine with Serkan Bolat unequivocally putting Eda first over his career and company. After everything theyâve been though, and her insecurities in that area, it was incredibly important and now she will never, ever doubt where his heart lies. Itâs with her. She (and their family) is his top priority.
Besides, the show started with Serkan having destroyed Edaâs dream of studying to become a landscape architect in Italy, itâs quite poetic that he gave up something substantial so that she could realize a dream of working as a landscape architect on her dream project in Italy.
Iâm pretty sure sheâll be more than happy to help rebuild their company. Together.Â
Anonymous asked: i know you said in your previous ask round-up that as far as the actual proposal goes, nothing would top that speech in 27.. i was wondering how you felt about his speech this episode. sure, it wasn't actually the proposal, more like a "reception" toast, but for me i think it was my favorite speech, or at least top 3, serkan has said to/about eda.. just pure love about their journey together and a huge full circle moment with that video from the pilot episode.
YEEEEEESSSSSS. I so agree with this, and actually thought exactly this while watching. It was a marvelous speech and while, as you say, it was presented as more of a toast, it was really more of a wedding vow. Â
I loved it. And Iâve rewatched it multiple times and I plan to watch it many times more. As always Kerem and Hande were excellent in the scene. Eda and Serkan were in front of their friends and family, but they were so focused in on one another they might as well have been alone. The emotion was palpable.Â
She is love. Dang, Serkan! Heâs mentioned love at first sight a couple of times, it was nice that in this moment he gave another nod to that.
Loved the call back to the video from the first episode, it worked really well, especially to remind us of how it all started and how she felt like he destroyed her dream. That segued into him mentioned them destroying each otherâs dreams. As I said above, quite poetic, especially since he then put his money where his mouth was by the end of the episode and destroyed his dream to preserve hers.Â
Well done, show.Â
Anonymous asked: i have loved the tone of this season so much. none of the drama we have is super heavy, outside of the kiraz reveal which was given the angst and importance it should have bc of how it important it was. otherwise, we've had happy (now married!) edser coming back together and now facing trouble and issues as a couple! this was basically all i wanted for them since 28!
Yes, me too. I really enjoy the tone this season. As you say, itâs not super heavy, the melodrama is at a minimum, most things are light and fluffy and even heavy issues are played with a light hand.Â
For me, Iâve really enjoyed this season and Iâm super glad we got it. I think COVID did us one favor by shutting down production when it did and forcing them to reevaluate what they were doing. If they hadnât Iâm guessing the show would have continued in a very messy and directionless manner, with lots of melodrama and storylines that would have been traumatic to watch.Â
Season 2 has direction and purpose and a plan and once we got past the horrified shock of the time jump and the secret daughter (which I grant you was no small feat) itâs pretty much been trauma free.Â
Anonymous asked: After watching the episode, I'm lowkey disappointed. we did get Pretty Woman SCK-style. I was promised Serkan as a gigilo and Eda encouraging it!!!!! LOL, jokes aside, I'll never forget the outrage over that fragman over "harassment" or "prostitution" of all things when the actual dinner scene lasted 3 minutes, Eda was being at the hotel the whole time, and the scene where people thought she was encouraging him was about her project. Almost 50 eps and you would ppl would learn how fragmans work.
The fragman was insanely misleading, but lots of them are, so you would think they would have figured it out by now, but nope! A large swath of people really embarrassed themselves with their complete over reaction to something that turned out to be nothing like they thought.Â
Thankfully Serkan was entirely in the dark about how dire the situation was and why Eda was pushing him to make nice with Deniz, and only humored Deniz very unwillingly and then completely cut ties with her. I think the best part was the least shocking twist ever... that the Serkan staying in her room line was an actual joke on the show. Come on, kids, it was pretty obvious to anyone with a brain that Serkan would never actually consider staying with her, and certainly not just days after he got married. Preposterous!  Â
Having said that, I do agree with people who think that Deniz being obsessed with him to that degree is dumb. There is a thread of misogyny and internalized misogyny (depending on which writers) running through the writing of these female guest characters who come in and absolutely shed all dignity, sanity and common sense when it comes to Serkan. Selin, Balca, the actress and Deniz. Good grief. However, I just donât care enough to get pissy. If thatâs what theyâve come up with to fuel the jealousy trope that apparently is a must for Turkish dizis without having Serkan ever have eyes for anyone but Eda, then so be it. Â
The formula is more than obvious by now, so Iâm not sure why some folks made asses of themselves jumping to other conclusions.Â
#Sen Ăal Kapımı#Sen Cal kapimi#edser#sckask#asklizac#sck episode discussion#edser discussion#sck 2x48#anonymous
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