#bc if he did then.. is that why he mentioned matt… 💀

[lingulaca]

Honestly, many actors from hotd lack a basic understanding of their characters. Most of them either don't understand who they're playing at all, or they play the role the way they think is best for them (or they say whatever they want in promos to whitewash the character's image and attract an audience). Tom is not serious at all and I basically can't listen to his reasoning about Aegon and his connection with Helaena and Aemond (it's because of him that everyone got the wrong impression that the greens are in for an incredible brotherly bond and mutual understanding, lol). Olivia no longer knows what to say to whom so that Alicent will have at least some fans left. Emma is overly determined to make a warrior out of Rhaenyra, completely ignoring her soft and feminine side. Matt is also fickle in his judgments about Damon. He, like Tom, wants to whitewash his character, despite the fact that he is hardly better than others (he killed his wife, hit Rhaenyra and still wants power for himself). And listening to Ewan once again about how Lucerys mocked him and took his eye and did not apologize and that is why Aemond holds a grudge against him (constantly ignoring the fact of an accident in an attempt to protect his brother and ignoring Aegon's influence). I think I really miss Elliot Grihault and his point of view on the whole situation in all these promos/interviews. I think he would be smarter than the others and would know what to say. He has received unfairly little recognition. Honestly, I would like to see him again. I was hoping that he would appear in Daemon's hallucinations. But maybe hotd will bring back Elliot as Lucerys for Aemond's hallucinations. I need Luke to actually mock and torture the one-eyed asshole now, as he deserves, so that the greens can at least write about the creepy monster Luke with reason, lol

i dont agree with the thing about emma trying to make a warrior out of rhaenyra lol where'd u get that idea from 💀 also i like daemon soo any judgement of him being bad is so ugh to me bc of all my bad experiences with daemon dislikers. obviously yeah, they fucked up daemon in the show but still ughh. all of the bad things u mentioned that he did were sooo ooc and obviously placed in the show by an unintelligent daemon hater but i've talked about that b4 so i won't go into detail. comparing matt to tom in that way is honestly a bit over the top, i don't think the way they understand their characters is the same at all. call me biased, that's just how i feel tbh

i do really like luke though, thats one thing we can agree on ! i was hoping we'd get more luke scenes back in season 1, specifically maybe something of him and jace together.

[oacest]

Sorry if it's been already asked but I'd love to hear your guys' thoughts on Slide Away(’s lore).

I always very casually liked oasis and even watched supersonic in 2017, just thought it was a cool doc and went on with my day, but got into them deeply after the reunion announcement and was a "normal" fan for a while until I searched oasis on this platform and my whole world shifted and here I am lol

So a part of me still feels it's rational to think it's about Louise, especially when Noel said he thought they were soulmates (this comment from Noel is all over the internet but I can’t find the original interview), and it’s generally believed that the song is about her, but at the same time, whether it's about Liam or not, none of the lyrics screams heterosexual romance and some of the lyrics really evoke Liam & Noel together as a pair, like "together we'll fly" and "two of a kind". I've read the interview excerpt where Noel said Liam came up with "Let me be the one who shines with you" on the spot iirc, which makes it even more of a liamnoel song. 

It’s very interesting that the brothers seem to have a more deeper emotional relationship to slide away than some of their other songs. At the top of my head- the collective “WHAT FOR”, the infamous iTunes gig, Noel acoustic Chicago ’98, and I’m sure the list goes on but that’s all I can think of at the moment.

Also Noel saying in MM podcast he doesn’t remember Liam and him shouting “what for” together is so suspicious to me. Just like that one time Matt made him do a fanmade oasis quiz and said this song is disturbingly titled and a bit incestuous but Noel pretended not to be able to guess the super obvious answer. I don’t think Liam would do the same because he seems to be far less bitter about their past than Noel. I wonder it’s because the “what for” is so intertwined with whatever relationship they had back then (they never did it again after ’96 or ’97 for some reason) that it feels like an old inside joke with an ex or something to Noel. He very well could be in complete denial and has partial memory loss but fingers crossed that they bring it back this year🤞 

the denial of ("er, thingy") sister lover is soooooo funny always. he's so embarrassed by that song he can't even bring himself to performatively denounce it. the ONE TIME he doesn't go out of his way to make something extra weird by commenting on it when no comment is necessary, and for once this silence actually makes everything so much more sus. a casual "yeah it was about that girl band, bit of a joke" would suffice, but he can't even do that. constantly thinking about that eternal silence on the podcast while matt was prompting him, and the grunted "oh right" and immediate moving on. you aint sly buddy <3.

but anyway, re slide away, idk,,,, i think it's pretty fair to call it an essentially basic noelish lovesong without too much depth to it. AS USUAL there's no way to know for sure bc a) he lies b) his brain is swiss cheese, c) he often takes a long time to write things and repurposes a lot of stuff, so how/why a song begins is not necessarily how/why it ends up. some combo of louise angst + knowing how to whip up a Big Hit on the spot doesn't seem farfetched to me. otoh liam is great at making everything about him, so retrospective meaning can always be applied with or without noel's consent lol. not to mention the loaded emotional weight of its live performances in the later 2000s of course 💀. death of the author applies even (and especially) to noel gallagher.

although the thing you're thinking about re liam supposedly coming up with the "let me be the one who shines with you" line was actually noel refuting that version of events. supposedly liam claimed he invented that line, but noel says there's an early demo of he himself singing it that way before liam ever got ahold of it. now afaik this supposed claim of liam's only exists in this specific quote from noel himself lol, so who knows what degree of truth there is to it. (i don't have that interview to hand at this exact moment bc im writing this at midnight and im lazy tbh, but we can probably locate it if anyone is interested.)

[thegreatimpersonator]

bestie what's wrong with the sturnio triplets? I don't watch them but I am curious

okay you opened the floodgates with this question bc i have no one else to rant about all this with so here's all the nonsense below the cut

they just have sooo many red flags and their fan base just ignores them and writes them off, like just bullet-points

they never said anything about the election, theres an old clip of them from a few years ago saying they hate politics and dont talk about them (huge red flag), but fans insist that they would never vote for trump and be totally liberal bc one of them is gay (which means absolutely nothing- people love trump who also have gay siblings/friends/family members etc), and also years ago 1 of them posted a picture on a photography account a picture of anti-trump graffiti. but they also vocally show love to a bunch of trump supporters, like they've publicly shown love for logan paul, they follow bryce haul, mr beast etc. also their manager is a trump supporter. and lets give them the benefit of the doubt and say they arent trump supporters, they still very much entertain and support people who align with those right-wing beliefs

a good percentage of their youtube friends are problematic as well, ones who are zionists, ab*ser apologists, etc.

i saw a tiktok recently of a fan saying that the reason they have a mostly female-centric fan base is that they 'don't show any signs of toxic masculinity' and i actually had to laugh because they completely do. like abundantly. they have a female-centric fanbase because they're conventionally attractive men, thats why lol.

they consistently call people, most often women, bitches. very aggressively most of the time.

i mentioned one of them is gay, his name is nick, and nick is a walking example of the 'gay men being misogynistic because they think they can get away with it' trope. he is always insulting the way women look and saying violent things towards them. 'that bitches outfit is ugly', one time he said he 'wanted to stab that bitch in the face' bc someone said they looked young for their age. in a recent video he said 'that bitch was a fucking idiot', his brothers told him to calm down, and he doubled down and said 'no im gonna say it, that bitch as a fucking idiot'. people have called him out before on this but he's continued it and the fandom excuses it by being like 'no nicks an angel bc he complimented a women on camera once and said women were strong' 💀. as if that changes the other thousand times he's insulted women. fans will always say some nonsense like 'im so glad they support women, they have so many female friends' like that isnt the most overdone saying when people get accused of something. 'he can't be racist, he has a black friend' type shit. them having female friends means nothing.

they also often have violent outbursts and have very easy triggers. every time they have one of these tantrums, fans excuse it as 'they're siblings!! i fight my siblings all the time!! y'all dont have siblings and it shows'. you fight with you're siblings when you're like 6-16 but you grow up and learn to control your emotions... these are 22-year-old dudes still hitting and screaming at each other.

they got in a huge controversy recently because they posted an extra deleted clip from a video on their instagram of nick accidentally hitting matt (another brother) in the eye with a calendar. it barely touched him, but matt proceeded to punch nick in the head multiple times and throw things around the room. it went viral because of how insane it was and a bunch of people were saying how embarrassing it was for a grown 22-year-old to be throwing a huge temper tantrum like that. fans were using the same excuses they always did, the 'this is how siblings act yall are being dramatic' bs. one girl posted a video that went viral talking about how it was insane to behave that way and that it was borderline abusive. a lot of the fans had issues with that because 'that's their precious baby boy being attacked by stupid people trying to cancel him over nothing' or whatever nonsense. matt responded on instgram stories 'joking' that he'd 'do it again', doubling down. the triplets made a video a few days later and in the video they address it saying it's not that big of. deal and everyone was being dramatic. they then played that girls viral video and nick basically said 'sometimes i think we shouldn't talk about people who go after us because then our fans will go after them, but you had the nerve to talk about me so you deserve it'....... so if being have the nerve to criticize them... they deserve to get death threats from 12 yea olds? insanely entitled behavior. sending your fans after a young girl because you dont like something she said is actually crazy. anyway thats what you missed on glee.

[raysofcrosby]

What was Ethan and Melody’s first time having sex like? Did he plan something special or did it happen naturally? Or did she initiated it? 👀 Did Ethan went and talked to their parents before going for it or just let them know afterwards? I can’t imagine Matthew giving him the sex talk lol

never thought about it bc in the main chapters of wltay ethan’s 8 and like caroline i want him to stay that way ✨forever✨ but obvi after the teasing about 20 year old him and melody in the holiday special i kinda figured i might need to think up something bc ethan is like everyone’s adopted fictional son and they’d want to know.

obvi ethan got the whole puberty/seggs talk in school (and via educational book mentioned in scarlett’s pregnancy chapter. fun fact: there actually is a boys version of that american girl: care and keeping of you body book, written by the same author which i think is v cool), plus matt talked to him (and also recruited his dad, richard and brady bc mans really doesn’t want to talk to his 10 year old about puberty + seggs 😩) and he never really talks much about it (what kid would tbh) unless there’s issues or he has questions and more often than not, he’s embarrassed but still talks to anyone anyway.

BUT REALLY— ethan doesn’t start to ask questions till high school (bc hello, teenagers) and caroline’s normally pretty good at answering them, but also reiterates how he shouldn’t be doing anything until he’s ready and with the right person (but man has been dating melody for like a solid 1-2 years now so lol) and ethan’s normally like “ya i know, but you and dad did it when you were 15,” which is usually when matt butts in somehow with the “and we got pregnant with you at 17, do the math.” 💀 he never really takes it seriously bc man doesn’t want ethan having seggsy time at the risk he might become a grandfather “teen pregnancies can be generational, caroline 😩” and normally miss caroline is like “🙄 shut up matthew, not if we keep the conversation open” kind of reply. and they do, which is why he’s comfortable (while also being slightly embarrassed) whenever caroline or matt ask IF he’s seggsually active or thinking about it.

matt’s not a big fan of the seggs talk for sure, but he obvi knows it’s pretty important. so surprisingly he does however give ethan a bigggggg lecture when he goes off to play for usntdp because he is away from home, a teenage boy and playing hockey for a really good program— and matt knows how it was when he was playing and teen pressures and parties, so he just gives him an all around responsibility and slight threat of: ‘don’t do something stupid and cheat on your girlfriend’ lecture.

anywho, it's not until ethan turns like 16 and is home for winter break when he actually like...pulls matt aside and is all "so um...mel and i have been talking about...ya know." and matt's all red-faced bc hello?? but he talks to him and reiterates the whole safe-seggs thing and is also like "well...do you want your mom to know?" and ethan's all "i was kinda of hoping you'd tell her for me 🥴" and caroline just happens to walk into the room with 10-month-old payson (and is also 5 months preggo w/ oliver) and matt and ethan are just like "🙂" and ethan just blurts it out all "mel and i are thinking about having seggs." and caroline (who is just tired and pregant) is just asking questions about birth control, if they’re being pressured into it, etc all those parent things when it comes to learning your teen might b considering having seggs.

after the fact, they're slighty uneasy about him being seggsually active bc hello, he's their kid and also nervous about ✨babies✨ but also know trust him to be safe and to come to them if anything is ever wrong (esp since he's been open and honest with them since the beginning). so they basically tell him that as long as he's sure about his decision, is comfortable and is safe, that they're not going to like ground him or anything (unless he starts acting stupid and sneaks out and stuff– then they might get a little testy). matt buys him condoms, caroline gives him the re-rundown on safe-sex and pregnancies and both reiterate that birth control isn't 100%– so to use a condom every time and if something happens, then to tell them and they'll buy a plan b (since you have to be 17 to buy) and help them figure it out– bc that's exactly how they had him 🥰

flash forward seven months later, they're back home in st. louis for the summer– ethan's 16, scarlett's 4, payson's 1 and oliver is 3 months– and matt is like “hey, let's go out on a date since we haven't done that in a while. my parents or yours can watch the kids and ethan’s old enough to stay home by himself for a few hours.” well ethan’s all “mel and i are actually going on a date to the movies…so can you guys maybe not go there?” and they’re all “lol sure, cause we’re adults and go on dates at night, not to early evening movies.” and mr boy is hesitant to ask but he does anyway and he’s like “is it okay if she comes over after the movie?” and OBVIOUSLY matt and care are both like 🙂👀 and poor ethan is all “no, no please just stop that’s not what i meant. just to like order pizza or something.” and so they’re like “yes that’s fine, just don’t burn the house down and if something does happen— then be safe.”

both go on their dates, matt + care leave about the time ethan and melody come back from their early movie. they go to dinner and just walk around downtown to look at the sights, maybe hit up a museum or two— whatever parents trying to relax from having kids do lol— and around 10 they’re like “hm let’s head home bc tired.” on the way home matt’s like “do you think they did it?” and caroline just smacks his arm like “let’s not think about that. we told him to be safe, gave him advice and the stuff to do so. we just have to trust him.” and matt’s like “okay yeah, you’re right…but do you think they did it?” and caroline’s just like “i don’t know, matthew, he’s 16 and had the house to himself with his girlfriend over. what do you think?” and matt’s all “🙂 i did a lot with my girlfriend at 16 when no one was home…even when people were home. hell, we even snuck out—“ and caroline just laughs and is like “well, whatever happened, don’t bring it up and just…let him talk about it if he wants to. he’s 16, matty. you remember how awkward it all was when your mom caught us and our parents knew.” to which matt is like “yeah, i guess you’re right. hey, do you mind if we stop at the store?”

after stopping at the store they get home, the living room tv is on and awww melody and ethan are fast asleep (and fully clothed) on the couch and gretzky is sleeping soundly on the floor in front of them. matt’s like “😨 not my couch” to which Caroline shoved him and is like “shut up, they’re fine. just fell asleep, let’s go upstairs.” they do and she stops him from going to check ethan’s room and bathroom and he’s all “i just want to know i’m too impatient to wait for him to tell us when he’s too dumb not to throw the condom away in the bathroom trash or leave his bed unmade 😫” and caroline’s like “he’ll tell us if he wants. bed. now.” to which matt’s all “don’t mind if i do 🤪” (they don’t)

next morning caroline wakes up to matt coming back into their room, she goes downstairs to see ethan and melody are gone. makes herself some coffee and legs gretzky out. ethan comes down the stairs freshly showered and kinda hesitates when he sees caroline (bc hello, he’s a teen boy and it’s still awkward) but then doesn’t and is like “morning” and caroline’s all “morning, how was your movie with melody?” and ethan’s stands out on the backyard deck with her like “it was good. you guys should see it.” and caroline’s all “mm maybe.” like we’re talking some small talk to fill the awkwardness before mans just sighs and is like “dad already knows cause he came down this morning right after mel left and i told him. but we had seggs last night— and no, not on the couch, i promise we went to my room.” “that’s fine ethan, just as long as you were safe—“ “i didn’t mean for it to happen- i mean, it wasn’t planned. i didn’t lie to you guys when i told you we weren’t going to. it just kind of happened…i don’t know, like it felt right, does that make sense?” and caroline’s like “it makes perfect sense, ethan. dad and i were…younger than we probably should have been our first time, but for us it was we were with the right person, the timing felt right and we were comfortable with the idea and safe. so as long as that’s what happened last night, then it’s all okay.”

and ethan’s like relieved— cause even though matt + care said they wouldn’t be mad as long as he was safe, he was still nervous actually telling them bc hello it’s just kind of embarrassing telling your parents you lost your virginity, no matter how close of a relationship you have. but the awkwardness is gone and they just talk about how melody is doing back here in st. louis and the plans for today until Gretzky is ready to come back in. when he is, they all come back into the house where matt is walking into the living room holding onto the small cake he made caroline stop at the store for last night and is all smiles like “here you go, e! 🙂” (AND MAN LITERALLY PULLS A LONELY ISLAND I JUST HAD SEX CAKE GIF MOMENT)

to which ethan just turns red in the face and caroline’s like “THAT’S why we stopped at the store matthew? 😡” and matt’s all “nooo, we stopped at the store because i wanted cake. me writing this just all depended on whether or not he did it. and since he did, which thank you for not ruining my couch, i wrote on it in the best way to tease him in the most lovingly parental way i know how.” and meanwhile they’re all there like 😇🥴��👿 and ethan’s like “…thanks, dad.” and goes to grab the cake but matt’s like “oh no, this cake is mine. i just wanted to embarrass you the same way mom and i were embarrassed when mimi walked in on us in the hot tub.” and Caroline takes the cake from him and is like “we’re all eating the cake and i’m scraping this off. no more teasing him or i’ll tell him all the embarrassing times you—“ and poor ethan’s just panicking like “please don’t, i don’t want to know those...”and matt just laughs and pats him on the shoulder and is all “well, it’s just fatherly love, but really…thanks for being honest with us, it’s important to us that you feel comfortable enough to talk to us about this stuff. just, stay safe and don’t make us grandparents while we’re in our thirty’s thanks<3”

but that’s why Ethan gets so flustered easily whenever matt teases him (like in the holiday special) no matter how old he is bc mans literally got him a cake that said “congrats on the seggs” and gave it to him the morning after he lost his virgin*ty. 🥲

[raysofcrosby]

100000% thought you were going to say “Andrew made a comment about Caroline’s weight” because hello he’s a brother. And Matt got protective like 😒 she’s with child you jerk 🥺

LOLOL “because hello he’s a brother” has me deceased bc true and he wouldn’t even say it like as an insult either. if he did mention her weight it’d be all “i’m surprised she didn’t do any of those bridal boot camps to get in crazy shape for the wedding” or something along those lines 💀

buttt something like that does happen when care’s pregnant with oliver about six months after they had payson and andrew’s all “why does it look like you’re still pregnant? 😂” and matt’s all “because she is you dumbass” bc man knows miss caroline is not feeling all that confident post-payson and he does not stand for any kind of care slander 🥺 and that’s how andrew ruins the “surprise, we’re having another baby” gift for himself on their last fam vacation before they go back to Canada lmao