#bc i dont make ocs...bc i dont understand how to do Good Concept‚ Conflict‚ AND flesh em out
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skunkes · 1 year ago
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General oc talkkkk
I feel like i have to Do something with al once i take him off the shelf again (when my brain lets go of talon for another few months), ive been motivated to draw talon because he sits in my brain and i imagine interactions but it's much harder with al since al has been around for 10 years or more...and Al has like. Less conflict? In the sense of him just being a nice kind guy with regular human issues in a normal human world (or cow with regular individual issues in a normal furry world lol) ykwim?
Like. Talon is exaggerated he's a caricature of feelings to play with he's got lots of internal contradictions... and outside of that the whole Setting is easy to play with too, like, he's a vampire and those elements are more fun to think about and incorporate and build up in a way that requires a bit more brainpower of the fun variety (can make shit up) than Just a Regular Guy (has to be nore realistic, less fun to research), but less brainpower than, say, my abandoned Space Ocs where it was way harder for me to just make shit up, and way more to make shit up about (not as fun for me)
Idk! Its easy to imagine Talon in interactions, including ones with Al, or just self exploring dialogue....
Other than cute interactions between al and smunker its a lot harder to find stuff with him...he's a guy living in our regular world... his life has been fairly normal and he's good and nice. And i wouldnt change any of those things just to change em but there's less conflict other than the usual internal stuff all humans experience. I think if he wasnt my imaginary bf I would have shelved him more permanently like the oc group he came with...
There's something about how i very rarely make ocs, he's technically my oldest oc and talon is my newest oc, talon is what i Feel making ocs should feel like. And he's only over a year old. And he's still not even what I would call a well written character in any capacity. And yet i dont think i could very easily replicate this again ykwim. Im so bad at writing, and ..... creating....! Idk how people do any of it....i just wanna extend my ocs lives and my interest in them forever...
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shina913 · 2 years ago
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Okay so, i just finished Coquet and i am in LOVE ! the story was so good, so different with the plot and the idea, and your writing was also exquisite. I loved how stark the contrast was between “J“ and “Jungkook“. I also loved how sceptic Oc was and i think she actually portrayed all of us with this whole concept of getting to know an escort. And i have to be honest when i say that i KNEW Jk is an actual doc and that Haru and Jennie had smth. The way Jungkook answered all the questions about his shifts and how hard it gets was just SO natural and easy going i just knew from the beginning he is an actual doc. And after Oc asked Jennie at the pub if she knew smth and she got all defensive, i knew that she and Haru had smth. What i honestly didn‘t like was that Taehyung still married her. I mean whats the difference between Haru and Jennie ? Haru is his childhood best friend who slept with the love of his life. Yes that all happened when they werent even together but he still betrayed his friend. Jennie is a very close friend of theirs also since childhood and decided to sleep with the boyfriend of his ( Taehyungs ) sister. She was the one who Oc cried to for months. She was the one who acted clueless this whole time seeing Oc miserable. Jennie betrayed her close friend who happens to be the sister of the love of her life. Just bc she felt shitty abt her own love life with Tae and couldn‘t understand when hes going to confess to her, she was 50% of the reason on why Oc‘s relationship was destroyed. She destroyed another relationship bc she felt shitty for her own life. I dont understand why they dont want to talk to Haru and have no contact with him, but with Jennie its okay ? I honestly would‘ve found it better if Tae didnt marry her and Haru and Jennie would get what they deserve for cheating, backstabbing and lying. At the end, i feel happy that Oc found her true love with Jungkook and that Jungkook found someone who will accept his past, his present and his future without judging him.
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Hi, Pixie Anon!
First off, thank you so much for reading Coquet 🥰 Secondly, thank you for this ask! I'm always up for a healthy discussion when it comes to my fics so I will do my best to answer your questions and address your points below.
So, I’ll get right into the point where you’re conflicted with—the part where Taehyung still married Jennie despite everything that happened.
First, I acknowledge that I didn’t add a specific timeline or an explicit indication of the passage of time when I wrote the epilogue. I hoped that I had implied that but perhaps that didn’t come through clearly. I want to clarify that the wedding did NOT happen immediately. With that established, let’s get right into the point of contention!
To answer your question, there is no difference between Haru and Jennie. They were both at fault here. However, I wanted to highlight the conversation that OC and Taehyung had at the hospital. Both of them were conflicted, especially Taehyung because despite what Jennie did, he still loves her. With that in mind, he’s worried about how his sister would feel about that. I firmly believe that that feeling is rooted in reality. Some of us still have love for the people who caused us hurt. Many of us don’t openly admit that for fear of judgment—and Taehyung says as much in this conversation. Also, logically, you shouldn’t love the person who hurt you. It doesn’t make sense, right?
To which, OC responds—both those facts can be true. Things don’t always have to be so black and white all the time. And this is something that I constantly try to work into my fics—that we, as humans, often venture into many gray areas.
While Haru was out of the picture, Jennie didn’t get away scot-free (if that’s what you’re thinking). What she did was terrible and she was not forgiven right away. Taehyung wasn’t speaking to her, their big wedding was canceled, and she was embarrassed in front of family and friends. In that respect, I thought that she was held accountable for her actions.
And while it’s not written out, it’s implied that it took time for Taehyung and Jennie to rebuild that relationship before deciding to get married again.
Taehyung was apprehensive about patching things up with her. You’ll read traces of his apprehension through that same conversation that he and OC had at the hospital. He hasn’t returned her calls despite still having these feelings for her. OC, on the other hand, is urging him to at least try because OC recognizes that Taehyung and Jennie love each other very much and what they have is the real deal.
Granted, OC was enraged after learning the truth, you have to wonder—what benefit would she get out of casting Jennie out? Let’s say she “punishes” Jennie for the hurt that she caused. And then what? What would OC get out of that? A couple days of self-righteous gloating? And what’s next after that?
What about Taehyung? What satisfaction would OC get out of telling him to cut her out of his life just because she asked him to? In the end, Taehyung would be miserable and OC would have a hand in that, right? How is that a good ending for them both?
While I get the desire for an ‘eye for an eye,’ because when you’re hurt, you want the other person to feel the same way that you do or did (which is also a justifiable feeling), that is not the story that I want to write. When I write, I always want to show growth in my characters after I put them through some hardships/challenges. And that growth in OC is shown through letting go of the past and moving forward in her life. Did she forgive Jennie right away?
From the final scene in Chapter 8:
She opened her mouth tentatively, looking like she was deciding whether she should say anything else or not. She swallowed hard. “D-does this mean that…you forgive me?” She whispered.
You softened your face. “Right now? No,” you say simply.
Her expression is pained and quite frankly, you didn’t want to twist that blade any further.
“But I won’t stay angry. That said, I think,” you paused, “…that should be enough for both of us to move on from this. I can’t tell you how things will turn out tomorrow but tonight, I can’t pretend that everything is okay.”
And back to what I previously said, what would OC get out of depriving her brother of his happiness—knowing that he might be able to find it in Jennie? While it seems as if OC is giving Taehyung an out by ‘saving’ him from another difficult decision, I don’t think that’s the case the second time around. If you’ll recall, in the beginning, when the stuff with Haru went down, OC left. She was hurt and brokenhearted and didn’t want Taehyung to make that difficult decision.
While some part of OC wanted to show up Haru by bringing JK as her date, in the end, she realizes that she and Haru were absolutely done. They were done from the moment he ended their engagement—there’s nothing left to salvage there. It was time for OC to move on. And I don’t think that’s OC giving Taehyung an out or Jennie a pass by leaving them both to find their happiness. OC decided to pursue her own happiness in the end anyway.
I hope that answers your questions? And if they didn’t, that’s perfectly fine. I am still grateful for your feedback! I am glad that you enjoyed the story and took the time to send me this ask! 💕
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