#bbc telemon

[mejcinta]

Ariadne choosing Telemon over Jason is why I like Medea more.

Girl, you need to reassess your choices. I don't feel sorry for you. 🤷

[geohenley]

Am I too ambitious?

[robocracker]

i haven’t rewatched atlantis for a couple of weeks, but today i’m finally on 2x03!

i’m anti-monarchy through and through, but queen ariadne and her crown own my entire heart

“since when have you kept a promise?” jesus CHRIST, pythagoras has chosen violence today against hercules

i hate that pythagoras keeps speaking my own thoughts like this, telemon is very pretty but it’s true... something is not right...

idk why but areto is literally the only memory i have of this entire episode, so i’m intrigued as to why she stuck out in my mind...

oh my GOD, don’t tell me telemon is actually a random criminal committing identity fraud-

“the ampitheatre is no place for a woman” okay fuck you tele-fraud, you know areto would have kicked your ass right into the underworld

i know he’s only been around for a single episode, but so far telemon is by miles the most infuriating antagonist this show’s ever had.

[bbcatlantiscom]

#BBC Atlantis Rewatch 

2x03 - Telemon (the first minute)

[atlantistalk]

BBC Atlantis Weekly Rewatch - S1 thoughts

Before starting our S2 rewatch, why don’t we all take a moment to chat about S1.  Random thoughts, favorite moments, characters, whatever…

I’ll start!  So, some general comments...

Aeson and Circe: What the BLEEP did you guys do that started this whole mess?!  

I feel like we’ve got two very unreliable narrators on our hands.  They both have the same story (which Aeson repeats to Jason in S2).  They were both dearly in love with their spouses, they never saw the betrayal coming, they’ve no idea what happened, Pasiphae is just evil and hungry for power.  

REALLY?!  Pasiphae usurped her own throne.  This is the most nonsensical and risky power play ever.  

And this all went down right after Jason and Ariadne were born.  It’s a very good thing that Ariadne looks like Minos!!  Because cheating is usually the first place TV shows go.  But what in Hades is the explanation here?!

Circe is Ariadne’s mother: I believe this as strongly as ever.  Not only due to the line about Pasiphae taking her husband, but also all the pieces are there that she was involved in the epic crazy-ass betrayal.  She knew about Jason!  She knew he was alive, and she knew when he returned from the other world, which leads me to believe she also knew where he was hidden and was watching for his return.  She had to be in on it!

Additionally, she sends her sister’s own son to kill her!  That’s some messed up revenge for stealing her husband.  But what about for stealing her kids…

Pasiphae is not the bad guy: I’m gonna play devil’s advocate here.  We come into things learning early off that she’s the evil stepmother.  But then we learn the timing.  She waited over 20 years before poisoning Minos.  Unless she is just seriously fail at killing people and has been trying this entire time.  But she has failed to kill anybody in her family!  I kinda think she maybe, you know, loves them or something.  

Back to timing… Therus rushes in to whisk Ariadne away into hiding because she’s about to come of age to become heir.  Pasiphae will surely kill her before that.  This seems rather urgent.  But Ariadne stubbornly goes home, and Pasiphae… carries on trying to set her up to be married.  She doesn’t try to kill Ariadne until Ariadne forces her hand.  She offered mercy, and she looked genuinely shocked and hurt that Ariadne wants her dead.

Additionally, in S2, Ariadne says “This land was bequeathed to me by my father and I will never disown it“ (while Pasiphae is pleading with her to give up, rather than simply killing her).  So did Minos just break the rules, or did Ariadne make it to becoming of age??  Did she reach this mark between seasons, or did she become heir while Pasiphae was still the Queen?!

Getting sidetracked here a bit, but at what year would she have “come of age”?   If it was 20, she would absolutely have been stepping right on it in S1.  Jason is 22 when the show starts, and we know she cannot be more than a couple years younger (she was already born while Jason was still young enough to be called a baby).  So, damn, I think she actually made it to legit being heir during S1.

Also, Therus was presumed dead due to being lost at sea.  Aeson was left alive during the epic crazy-ass betrayal (and Pasiphae collapses weeping when she learns of his death in S2).  And Circe survived also.  And Pasiphae has good relationships with her other two siblings’ children.  And Pasiphae keeps not actually wanting to kill Ariadne and Jason (which continues all through S2 with her repeatedly capturing them and then reasoning with them).  

Pasiphae was always Ariadne’s stepmother: Whoa, this was a shocker of an ending to the season.  I’d assumed Ariadne had lots of lovely memories of her mother, which is why she was so bitter about Pasiphae replacing her.  We learned in ep 5 that it had been over 10 years, but then discovering that Pasiphae has been her stepmother her entire life!  Damn.  Looking back at Pasiphae referring to herself as Ariadne’s mother only to have Ariadne throw it in her face that she’s not… wow, Ariadne, that is really cold.

Pasiphae isn’t the bad guy (reprise):  The only absolutely horrid thing Pasiphae did in S1 was kill Korinna, which was actually a suicide.  Except SHE WOULDN’T HAVE DONE THAT!!   She was a precious cinnamon roll too good for this world, too pure!  So forget everything I just said, Pasiphae is a straight up evil witch!

Jason’s expectation of honorable fighting: Dude, stop being all offended by cheating during arena games.  The first rule of fight club is THERE ARE NO RULES!  Trying to surprise stab you after you’ve “won” is absolutely allowed.  It’s not over until somebody draws blood, you dumbass.  This happens every time.

Also, you were supposed to take a dive in the Pankration, Jason!

Pythagoras: “You cannot win. ... You’d be dead by sundown.  We all would.”

Jason:

Well, now Korinna is dead.  Maybe when Pythagoras tells you there’s no choice but to lose, LOSE!

The next time Jason and Heptarian face each other, Jason stabs him.  *glares at Jason*  That was unworthy of you.  (Yes, I realize the unworthy line was actually to Telemon, but they accidentally reused the Rules of Engagement script for that ep, so...)

Hercules’ ongoing belief that Jason is useless with a sword:  I love this.  Every time Jason enters a fight, it’s like “well, you’re gonna get killed, we’d better train you.” 

Ep 8: Since I just did a gif from this ep, I’m going to end my rambling comments on how great the trio’s relationship is in it.  Jason and Hercules never waver as Pythagoras’ friends and just support him all the way through.

[pasiphaequeenofcrete]

[aislinceivun]

This creeped me out a lot.

With Jason and Ariadne being kinda step-siblings plus Jason and Medea being actual cousins, now Pasiphae having creepy eyesex with the future-fake-husband of her son's beloved/her ex-stepdaughter? Yiccck.

[trianglesandbutts]

my opinion on telemon while watching the newest episode

i like you

wait pythagoras doesn't like you?

i kind of still like you though?

no i don't like you

but you're so nice to ariadne i like you

but we know nothing about you i don't like you

no wait i do like you

*kills areto* 'women don't belong in the arena' (or whatever the exact quote was) NOPE MY MISTAKE I DEFINITELY DON'T LIKE YOU

[geohenley]

hello friends welcome to the era of me posting gifsets from bbc atlantis 2x03 telemon i mention this because there’s a moment in this episode that may be SLIGHTLY too catered to me to post as a full gifset but i made a little gif of it anyway and would like to share it and it’s called “the Look between areto [lashana lynch] and ariadne [aiysha hart] which is their only interaction in the episode but it’s Everything to me”

[atlantistalk]

“Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.” — Ian Fleming

[cerysehightower]

Atlantis + Parallels between Medea and Telemon (Teledea? Melemon? Whatever I ship it)

[atlantistalk]

So is anybody else wondering why Pasiphae is caressing Telemon with a bloody hand?

[cerysehightower]

[pasiphaequeenofcrete]

[robocracker]

…so, are we ever finding out if Telemon was honest about his past??