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toiletpudding · 15 days ago
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Pt. 10 Pt. 12
Abel’s the “If you cry, I cry 🥺” type.
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devastatedloyallute · 5 months ago
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Adam's phone wallpaper💕
Starting my digital drawings for Bigger Than The Whole Sky! [read here on AO3]
@shinynewboots :3
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nikichan234 · 8 months ago
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You ever think Adam has nightmares about what happened with Cain and Abel? You think he blames himself for not being able to stop it? You think he believes Eve blamed him in some capacity for what happened? Maybe she did.
I think he might’ve- he just can’t actually admit it. Only time he really can is in the turmoil of his own mind.
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darkmasterofcupcakes · 9 months ago
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Abel must feel so weird about Lute and Vaggie.
He can't deny he's not a fan of Lute, either her as a person, or the fact that, despite Adam flat out denying it when Abel asks his father if he's got any feelings for his lieutenant, he knows that Lute is as close to a third wife as Adam has ever had. Meaning she really is the closest thing to a "true" replacement for Abel's mother.
His feelings towards Vaggie are more....complicated. Part of him wants to hate her, because she's the result of his father "cheating" on his mother (the fact that they've both been dead basically since the beginning of time, and Eve ended up in Hell while Adam went to Heaven is something Abel chooses to ignore). But he also felt it was wrong to hate a child - his own (half) sister at that - for something she literally had no control over. So he sort of found a compromise in his actions. He never sought her out, but whenever they did happen upon each other, he was always polite and did come to enjoy getting to know her, at least a little.
He did wonder what happened to her when she (as far as most of Heaven knew) went "missing" and was declared dead by the seraphim, but also knew he couldn't ask anyone, not without having to doubt it the answer he got was going to be true in the first place.
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kittenfangirl20 · 7 months ago
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*it had been a couple years since Adam and Eve were thrown out of Eden for tasting the Forbidden Fruit, they recently had a twin boys together, Cain a boy looked so much like Adam and Abel a boy who looked so much like Eve, the pregnancy was a painful event because Eve claimed that she tricked Adam into taking a bite of the fruit even though he made the choice on his own because he didn’t want to lose someone else he loved because she didn’t want him to be punished, he was woken to the boys crying, he got up because Eve needed her sleep and made his way to where the babies slept and to his shock, Lilith was standing over the small bed Adam made for them, she was still beautiful, but in a twisted way, she now had large red horns coming from her head and large red bat like wings, she wore a crown and a deep purple gown*
Adam: What are you doing here Lilith?
Lilith: In order to be Queen of Hell with my beloved Lucifer, I was cursed to not be able to bear children of my own. Lucifer wants to be a father and I think that these beautiful little babies will be the perfect Princes of Hell. If you love Lucifer like you say, you would be willing to sacrifice them to make him happy.
Adam: Fucking stay away from Cain and Abel!!!!!!!!
Lilith: We definitely have to change their names.
*Adam charged at Lilith and she grabbed him by the wrists, now that she was a demon she had super human strength and Adam screamed while the bones in his wrists were cracking, Lilith held him up by the wrists and slammed him into the ground*
Lilith: Why fight when you can just have more children of your own.
*Lilith started to mercilessly beat him, tears started to fall from Adam’s eyes while he wondered why Lucifer could choose her over him, he hated the fact that he couldn’t protect the wife and children he loved dearly, suddenly the beating stopped and Lilith screamed, even though it hurt to move, he moved himself up a little to see Eve standing over a cowering Lilith, in Eve’s trembling hands was the angelic sword of Michael which he had given to the couple after they had been thrown out of Eden to protect them in case something like this happened, Adam was impressed to see that Eve had snuck up behind Lilith and cut off her wings, since it was angelic steel, the wings would never grow back*
Eve: As my husband said, fucking stay away from Cain and Abel. Also if you lay another hand on the man I love, I will end you and you won’t be able to be reunited with your husband.
Lilith: Fine, I will have a child one way or another. Besides I don’t understand how this hideous creature inspires such loyalty in you, I at least have better taste in men and I am not an imitation of who Adam really wants.
Eve: Lucifer chose you over Adam, I have to question his tastes. I know Adam loves Lucifer and if the world had been fair to Adam, Lucifer would have loved him the same way. But I know that Adam loves me the same way as he loves Lucifer and anyone who is loved by Adam is a very lucky person. I feel sorry for Lucifer when all he has is you when he could have had so much better.
*Lilith just spat at Adam and disappeared, Eve ran to Adam and held him in a way that wouldn’t cause him more pain*
Adam: Eve please know that I love you so much.
*it hurt Adam to speak, but he had to say it*
Eve: Don’t speak, I know how much you love me. Someone please come help Adam, I can’t lose him.
*to the surprise of the couple, one of the Archangels, Raphael, who was a healer came to heal Adam’s wounds, Adam thought that he would have been abandoned by God and the other angels like how Lucifer abandoned him, as he was being healed he wondered if Lucifer told Lilith to steal his babies with Eve because they couldn’t have their own and if Lilith had truly poisoned his first love against him*
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scun-gilli · 6 months ago
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“When we’re older…you won’t forget me, right?”
“Never.”
Lucifer is the king of the realm and his sworn sword is his childhood friend, Alastor. Lucifer is arranged to marry Lilith, but something tells him that his red thread is connected to someone else. Alastor had always felt a connection with the king, but the deal that binds him makes him fight against those feelings.
(King x King's Guard AU)
Cover by the AMAZING @elkaseltzer
CHECK OUT THIS AMAZING FANART <3 (spoiler alert)
By @penbwl
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My sweet Raphael from Chapter 34. By @elkaseltzer as well :)
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A beautiful commissioned scene from Chapter 29!
A Cain and Abel sketch by the talented Elk!!
A Royal Family Portrait by the amazing Elk!!
TRT CHARACTER DESCRIPTIONS
just a little RadioApple fun on ao3. We having fun over here.
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peachhoneii · 9 months ago
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Sir Pentious giggled like a schoolgirl, unable to contain his mirth. “Lucifer is the, what do you say, the baby daddy?” “Right in the Garden while my dad was hunting!” Abel continued to bellow, the hypothetical washing over him like syrup. “Just went around and fucked my ma.” "Oh, the hilarity!" Sir Pentious chuckled. "I do think Miss Charlie would not approve of such jokes about her father." "Is it a joke if it's true?" Emily gaped. “What the fuck?” “Emily!” Sir Pentious gasped.
Sera must confess her failures to a being higher than herself. While she seeks absolution, Emily and Sir Pentious seek ice cream.
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Hazbin Hotel Theory: The Overlords Hold Lilith's Sins (It Allowed Her To Go Stay In Heaven) Part 1
[Note: Don't Reblog This Without My Permission.....if you are a fan of Hazbin Hotel, please make sure to have watched all the episodes of Season 1 before reading this, because of spoilers that will be mentioned..only read this fan theory if you want to...also I'm going to have this theory broken up into two parts, this one will be put as 'Mature' instead of just 'For Everyone', the part 2 of this will of course give a heads up of saying 'for Mature Audience Only' but will have it will be visible for everyone, but the mature audiences only will still be for those who are old enough to view it...also some parts of the theories in this, will be a bit dark...]
okay, we all know Lilith well as much as we can know about her so far...of course RL-Lilith ain't exactly my favorite Gran-Gran right now, I mean yeah there is that whole possibility that one of her surviving daughters had ended up surviving what those three angels were doing, and the said daughter may have met Cain and fell in love, and had children together...
and the said daughter of RL-Lilith, would also be biologically Adam's daughter, and their descendants would end up meeting Grandpa Seth's descendants and have children of their own, and then it would lead up to their curtain descendants that is me and everyone else...
and yeah, some darker and evil versions of Lilith of Hazbin Hotel, in some fanfics, will be based on what she did to Adam...
which the certain reasons being is why Gran-Gran Lilith, the first wife of the Adam from our universe, isn't exactly my favorite right now...
like I could like some alternate versions of her, that haven't done the Apple Sugar Spice Honey Of Liquid Eggs move that she had did...
(I will get to the topic that will talk about my theory about reasons why Lilith was able to go to and stay in Heaven that has to do with her Sins being held by Overlords, there is just some stuff I need to say first...)
and well, even if the Lilith from Hazbin Hotel might of not did what Gran-Gran Lilith did in RL...but she could of still did some bad stuff to Adam in that series...
and it is pretty obvious that if Gran-Gran Lilith did give birth in a cave, when she had ran off after her and Grandpa Adam's fight...
she was obviously having human babies, and maybe if those three angels didn't threaten her the way they did and didn't cross lines that were NEVER meant to cross, she wouldn't of ended up trying to replace the ones that didn't survive, like if Gran-Gran Lilith had other children with Adam, before she had the ones in a cave...
then it could be possible they, the eldest of her and Adam's children, were left with Adam...and they ended up losing their lives...
it is disgusting, because maybe she wouldn't of got so bad and way worse and ended up hurting Adam, if those three angels were a bit more in touch to the Positive Feminine side, and didn't do those disgusting threats on her...
those three protecting children and babies, I can see as their repenting for the damage they were a part of...
Gran-Gran Lilith didn't become a Monster on her own, just like how Grandpa Cain didn't become a Monster on his own either...
Adam and Eve need to own up to their own parts that they played on what happen with Cain and Abel, if they saw the signs a bit more clearly that Cain was hurting and he was only gonna get worse and let it out in a very bad way, maybe they wouldn't of played favorites and possibly gave Abel too much of a ego trip...
because once again, both Cain and Abel are are at fault for what happen and they both were victims...
and yeah as weird as it might be, I would want to have both Grandpa Cain and Grunkle Abel go stand in the corner of shame, well they could sit in the corner of shame as well, if they get tired standing.
and yeah, one of the reasons Grunkle Abel goes to the corner of shame, has to do with the animal he would use as a offering...
if certain info is correct on how he does it, either it be a sheep or lamb...I would grab him by his ear, don't care if he is more taller than me, and I would have him go stand in the corner of shame...
there can be a right and wrong way of like spiritually sharing your food with like The Heavenly-Father/God and Earthly-Mother/Goddess...
like if you do still eat the food, but spiritually share it with the Heavenly-Father and Earthly-Mother, without BLOOD being spilled...then that's fine...
like even if you do have to get some meat, either by hunting for the animal in the woods but maybe if you have the license to hunt...
or you get the meat at some market, along with some fruits and vegetables...
but what Abel was doing, I can't help but view it as...not right.
both him and Cain were in the wrong, and both of them were victims on what happen...and maybe if things weren't so out of balance back then, maybe the Goddess could of stop Cain from crossing the line he had ended up crossing...I don't know.
animals are living creatures as well, and even though they still play a part in either being food or clothes, and some ended up being animal companions that become like your best friend and being there for you when you feel sad and act as emotional support...
there have been some humans in this world don't respect the balance, and yeah apparently some Vegans have crossed those lines as well, well not all of them, because there might still be some people who are Vegan who wouldn't disturb the balance...
because no matter if one is Vegan or not, there is some stuff you do NOT mess with, cause it might ended up hurting everyone, not just humans but also other animals...
there can be a right and wrong way to fight for animals, there needs to be perfect balance...and I'm going to hope someday a animal doesn't get hurt when no one adopts them right away, at least not all shelters do that disgusting thing, but there should be better ways to care for those animals, like dogs and cats and any other pet type animals, than to do that disgusting thing...
anyway, I might still view Abel as still having a good heart, but he might of still had a bit of a ego that blinded him to the full truth and he couldn't see that his brother Cain, was in both emotional and spiritual pain, and he might of been showing jealously to his brother, but it has to be more to it than that...
Adam and Eve, should of saw the signs that Cain was hurting, but if they did, they may have chosen to ignore it or saw it as something that wasn't a big thing to worry about.
well excuse me if it has to be Adam and Eve's Defective Earth Angel Granddaughter that has to reprimand them for being part of the reason why Grandpa Cain ended up the way he did...
I can still go by 'daughter' cause I am the Nonbinary type that still uses she/her pronouns of course, and there are different types of Nonbinary...
anyway, as for the whole theory as to why Lilith may have gotten into Heaven besides the possible deal she made with Adam....
she likely was able to stay, because she placed all her sins into the Overlords she owns the souls of.
some fans already theorized she owns Alastor's soul, but he might not be the only one...
I believe she also owns Vox and Valentino's souls, and she may have also owned Adam's soul as well, possibly...
she didn't just place her sins into them, so she could get into heaven...even though the essence of the sins could still be part of her, but could be hidden, who knows...
Vox could hold Lilith's Dark Obsessive Hate to Adam, which Vox ended up feeling a Dark Obsessive Hate to Alastor...
Valentino could possibly hold Lilith's Dark Obsessive Love to Adam, which Valentino ends up feeling to Angel.
so what I'm going at with the whole Lilith having a Dark Obsessive Love to Adam, is well certain actions that Valentino has done to Angel, could be the same as what Lilith may have done in the past before Adam and Eve were kicked out of Eden...
certain info on what Gran-Gran Lilith did to Grandpa Adam, is one of the reasons why I can't fully be on her side...
only the parts where I know she was wronged, and she was hurt by those three angels, who might not of understood at the time but learned later on, that threatening her and k*lling her children, wasn't the best call...and it only caused her to become a even worse version of herself...
we can only hope that the Lilith from the Hazbin Hotel series, doesn't take the darker path in the canon, I mean fans will still have it happen in the fanon...but who knows how Lilith will be in the canon.
the story that Charlie reads, is likely full of half-truths and half-lies.
it could be possible that Lilith didn't take kindly to being replaced by Eve, and it could of been before Lilith and Lucifer fell in love at the part of the story that Charlie read...
Lilith could of left out a lot of stuff in the story, that has to do with her past and how she had became so obsessive with twisted love and lust for Adam...even if she did leave him before after the fight and she refused to submit to his will...
but married couples can try to talk things out, plus Adam was likely not as bad before as Charlie's Mom made him out to be...
plus we can only hope that Charlie's Mom, didn't do what Gran-Gran Lilith had possibly did...
and it having to do with the info about Lilith having r*ped Adam when he was sleeping...
in most fanon timelines so far, Lilith is either fully good, neutral or full on evil...in some fan fic works of the Hazbin Hotel version of her.
we do not know if Charlie's Mom will have done what her counterpart Gran-Gran Lilith had possibly done to Adam...
which has to do with the s*xual abuse that Gran-Gran Lilith had possibly had physically done to the Adam from our universe...like the info saying she had s*x with him when he was sleeping, and other info saying she took the form of Eve to take advantage of him.
until there is some form of evidence that proves her innocence, like if it turns out it was the Fallen Angel Lilith but maybe it wasn't her...even if I believe both the two Lilith had their stories mixed together and being mistaken as being one and the same...
well there is Fallen Angel Lilith (which I had found out about from the video by Melinda The Mystic Witch), Lilith the First Wife Of Adam, then there is Lesser-Lilith who is the younger Lilith who apparently the mate/wife of Asmodeus...but I like the idea of calling Lesser-Lilith by the nickname Lilly...so not to confuse her for the Matron Lilith that may either the Fallen Angel one or the one that was Adam's first wife.
Small Lilith isn't as important and isn't well known but she is a Earth Angel and Human, but the Fallen Angel Lilith, Adam's First Wife Lilith and Lesser-Lilith/Lilly, ain't the Boss of Small Lilith...and Small Lilith doesn't fully trust some Eon-Boomers...
anyway, even though Vox and Valentino ended up in Hell for a reason...but they could of been not as bad before they got involved with Lilith...
also for all we know, the 'Lilith' that we see in the painting where Lilith's eyes and smile are gentle and open along with Lucifer and the younger child version of Charlie, might not be really her...
the Lilith that has her face hidden in the flashback during the song that Charlie and Lucifer sing together, is likely not Lilith...
for all we know, it could be Eve...or Eve's Older Sister.
I mean yeah, even if Eve is suppose to be Adam's second bride, but if some info is true, then it would mean Eve was the second attempt but would be the third bride, not the second bride...
some info I had read, has to do that Adam was awake during the whole creation of his Nameless Second Bride, who was also made from one of his ribs but he wanted nothing to do with her or even name her because he was disgusted and scared of her...
and apparently he had to be sleep during Eve's creation.
the hair style of the woman in the flashback when Charlie was small, she seems different from Lilith, which could mean that is either Eve or someone else, and the Lilith we know that made a deal to get into Heaven, is not Charlie's Mother...even if Lucifer was the one who possibly gave birth to Charlie.
there is a possibility a soul wouldn't of got into Heaven, if their sins are too corrupted, like the moment Lilith steps foot on Heaven, she would likely be kicked out, like a portal would open up and send her back to where she was before she left, that would be in Hell.
she could of found a loophole to keep Heaven from kicking her out, like she may have tried it before, but was always met with being forced out...she could of used a spell book to take her to Heaven, without Lucifer's knowledge, or even Charlie's knowledge.
like for centuries she may have been trying to leave her kingdom, her husband and later her own daughter, for a perfect and better life in Heaven...
she may have found out the reasons why she wasn't granted full passage and stay in Heaven, and it may have to do with her very sins she may have committed before she was forced to live in Hell.
truly terrible and corrupted things that she has done, that she left out of the story book that was left for Charlie...
things that would make Charlie herself view her differently, and not as the hero that she had grown up viewing as someone she looked up to...
Lucifer's Ex-Wife that is Charlie's Mom, Lilith...
maybe have found a way to transfer her strong worse parts of herself as well as her sins into the Overlords Alastor, Vox and Valentino...
part of the deal she made with Adam, was likely that if he helped her into Heaven and tells her how, she would stay as far away from him as possible and not go near him.
it would be nice if Adam came back as a Sinner, but the chances of that happening in the canon is very small and might not happen at all, which is fine and plus there is always the fanon when that happens.
Adam could of been threaten into helping Lilith, which could of happen when he was possibly 7 years ago when he last went down to Hell for Extermination day, and Lute could of been there to witness the deal take place...
Adam may have already knew a way for Heaven not to kick Lilith out, and it involved her finding vessels of souls she must own and that are very powerful, to be hosts to her most corrupted sins she had done in her life when she was still living in Eden.
Valentino may have been a bit different before he became a host for Lilith's most corrupted sin, and Angel may have been treated a bit better but Valentino could of still been strict with him but didn't get too violent, Angel may have notice the sudden change to Valentino around 7 years ago, which the change happen because of Lilith.
Alastor was likely very aware of being made to host Lilith's sins so she could get into Heaven, and stay there...
Alastor and Vox's broken friendship, may have involved Lilith who owned their souls through some kind of unknown deal.
Alastor could of went into hiding for reasons that are unknown, but for all we know, it could have to do with trying to plan on how to undo the power that Lilith has on himself as well on Vox and Valentino.
Lilith could of used them to transfer her sins into them, so she could stay in Heaven, and she may have learned this from Adam who could of been threaten into revealing it, and Adam could of learned it from a library in Heaven...which could of been in a very old library.
Lilith may have still had a dark obsessive love for Adam, and one of the reasons why Adam help her, was so she wont try to go after him...either from her hate or twisted love and lust to him...
the deal they possibly made, could of involved keeping Adam safe from Lilith's physical abuse as well as verbal abuse that Adam may have had to suffer through during his life in Eden...
Lucifer may of not known the darker and twisted side to Lilith, because he wasn't there during those moments when she possibly was physically and verbally abusive to Adam, and possibly only became even worse with physical abuse once Eve was made...
Charlie's Mom didn't take kindly to being replaced, and ended up becoming a lot more violent to Adam to the point she had to be forced to leave Eden, and at some point Lucifer found her, which shows in the story book that Charlie was reading...
but it doesn't say that Lilith was forced to leave the garden, I mean yes it does tell that Lilith did leave Adam because she didn't want to submit to his will, but a lot of other stuff may have happen after that, some info that Lilith left out so not to let Charlie know the full truth...
like Lilith did go back at some point, but Adam was given a new bride already who was named Eve...
Lilith may of hated the thought and feeling of being replaced by a new woman, so she ended up becoming abusive, so much so that when she was caught by one of the Angels (before Lucifer found her and fell in love with her, and not knowing the monster she had became during that time in the past in Eden...) may have forced her to leave and never to go near Adam in the garden, ever again...
Lilith likely found a loophole around that, and she likely used the fruit of knowledge and Lucifer, to take Adam's happiness away...
like the Angels who were guardians of Eden and the humans, plants and animals there, may have told Lilith to stay away from Adam in the garden, but they said nothing about Eve...
we don't know if Lilith from Hazbin Hotel, is way darker and really bad as we theorize, but we will have to wait and see.
but it could be possible she may have had to do something to keep herself from being kicked out of Heaven...
the reason why Sir Pentious was able to get into Heaven and possibly stay, is because he was both redeemed and his sins were purified from his soul, Lilith's own sins might not be able to be purified as easy as Sir Pentious's own past sins.
which is why she needed vessels of souls that she owned, to act as hosts for not just her sins but the worse parts of herself...
from her obsessive love for Adam, that Valentino is the host of as well as the sin that is linked to...and instead of being obsessive love for Adam, Valentino ends up being obsessive with Angel...
Lilith's obsessive hate for Adam, that Vox is the host of, but instead of hating Adam, it ends up focusing on Alastor.
Lilith's dark and twisted obsessive love and hate for Adam, as well as the sins she had done in the past when still in Eden, was possibly one of the reasons why she failed in her attempt in staying in Heaven...
the corruption in her soul and the really bad stuff she had possibly done, that had involved her love, lust and hate to Adam, could of played a part in Heaven kicking her out so many times.
I'm not sure if this theory will be proven true or not, or there was other reasons on how Lilith was able to get herself into Heaven...
and we can only hope that Charlie's Mom, didn't do the whole certain physical abuse to Adam, that some info about the other version of Lilith had possibly done...
we just need to be prepared for anything that has to do with Charlie's Mom, even finding out she may have been both physically and verbally abusive to Adam, and may have been triggered by Eve.
Adam wanting to k*ll Charlie, despite her being a Hellborn...
might come from his deep hate and resentment to Lilith, and the harm she had done to him in the past as well as her possibly threatening him into telling her how to stay in Heaven and keep Heaven from opening a portal and forcing her out...
Charlie is innocent, as she did nothing wrong and shouldn't be made a scapegoat for whatever her Mom had done to Adam in the past.
what may have went on in Adam and Lilith's past relationship, may have been domestic violence, which is why one of the tags 'domestic violent relationships' is being used for this...
Charlie's Mom might also be manipulative, and she likely was able to keep Charlie's Dad from finding out the full truth of what she had been doing before they met and fell in love.
Lilith likely didn't want Charlie to find out the full truth, and if Adam kept the same story book but with the full truth in it...
Emily could be the one to find it, and find out the terrible actions that Lilith had did when she found out she was being replaced by Eve.
she could end up showing it to Charlie, who might have a hard time believing her own mother would be capable of such actions and would keep that out of the book that she had read before.
finding out that your parent isn't as innocent as they seem, can't be easy for anyone...and if it turns out there is a darker and terrible side to Lilith from Hazbin Hotel, then it could end up hurting Charlie even more than when Vaggie's secret was revealed...
Lucifer likely found out much later on about his ex-wife's true colors, but he hides it from Charlie...
and in theory, Lilith becoming physically and verbally abusive may have been thanks to Roo's influence.
like Roo may have spoken with Lilith before she went back to find that Adam had a new bride, and Roo could of corrupted Lilith and it caused her to become violent to Adam...
Lilith may have had true innocence before when she and Adam first had a disagreement and she left the garden...
but Lucifer was not the first to find her alone in a disheartening state, it may have been Roo that found her first and used her darker feelings that were hidden away in Lilith's heart and soul, parts of herself that she would of never act on before until Roo used her powers to make them surface and manipulated Lilith into acting on them when Lilith found out she was being replaced by Eve.
and once she did find out about Eve, she ended up physically abusing Adam, possibly by punching, clawing and pulling his hair.
one of the Angels likely saw this, and made her leave and not to go near Adam in the garden ever again...
and at some point, Lucifer found Lilith and she didn't tell him the full truth on what happen or that she was the one that attacked Adam.
and Lilith became that way likely because of Roo's manipulation.
and over time, Lilith became more manipulative herself, as she may have manipulated Vox, Valentino and Alastor to hold on to the worse parts of herself as well as her sins...
those three Overlords, are possibly being used by her to act as hosts for the worse sides to herself as well as the sins that are linked to those worse sides to Lilith.
Alastor possible holds Lilith's resentment to Adam, which Alastor may have already held not a good view on Charlie's Dad, but it could end up being mixed with Lilith's resentment that would normally be for Adam...
Alastor had likely found out what Lilith was doing, so his resentment didn't fully go to another person, so he could end up feeling resentment to Adam as well, he still is himself, because he was aware of Lilith's plan to use him and the other souls she owns as hosts for her most corrupted sides as well as the sins she had.
Alastor could of found out her plans by accident, but it was too late for him to keep her from using him as a host.
Vox and Valentino weren't aware, so they were able to be fully changed with only having some of their personalities stay the same, but like become even worse versions of themselves thanks to Lilith.
this would mean that the worse sides to Lilith as well as her sins, have more influence on Valentino and Vox, because they are not fully aware that they are being used as hosts so Lilith can get into and stay in Heaven.
not everyone has to agree about this theory possibly being true, and it's okay it gets debunked.
but if it turns out to be true, then maybe it could mean that Lilith became corrupted by having met Roo first before she met Charlie's Dad.
and Lilith meeting Roo, could of been left out of that story book that Charlie was reading that tells the story about Angels, Heaven and even about Adam and Lilith.
Sera who is still going to remind me a bit of White Diamond from Steven Universe, and maybe a bit of Blue Diamond...
she could of known about Roo corrupting Lilith, as well as bringing out some dark parts of Lilith and causing Lilith to become violent to Adam after she learned she was being replaced by Eve.
Sera could of not known any way to truly help Lilith to return to how she was before Roo corrupted her, and over time Lilith became too far gone and corrupted with her dark obsessive twisted love and lust to Adam, as well as her hate for him.
it may have been by accident that Adam found the info that has to do with transferring the most corrupted sides of a person and their sins into a host either it be a living soul or object.
and once he did learn of this, it was bad luck for him that Lilith cornered him and possibly threaten him into telling her how she could get into Heaven and stay there without Heaven forcing her back into the Pride Ring.
part of the reason why Adam helped her, is that while she is able to finally live in Heaven, she is not to go near him.
Adam would only help Lilith get into Heaven, by telling her how to transfer the worse corrupted sides to herself as well as her sins, if she promised to never come near him ever again.
we don't fully know why Lilith is in Heaven or what deal she made to get herself to stay there and why she never told Charlie...
fans can only make theories as to why she never told Charlie and why she left her family.
a part of me hopes that Lilith didn't hurt Adam physically in the canon, and she only does that in the fanon...where it is non-canon.
one of my fan theories on how she was able to get into Heaven and stay there without being forced back into the Pride Ring...
might have to do with her placing the worse and corrupted sides to herself as well as her sins into host vessels of souls she had owned, and those being Alastor, Vox and Valentino.
Lilith likely doesn't own Velvette's soul, but she has the Female Overlord watch the other two and keep a eye on them.
Velvette may have known that Lilith placed the worse parts of herself as well as her sins into Vox and Valentino, but she was likely threaten by Lilith into never telling those two or else she will have her powers and rank of a Overlord taken away from her and she would have to start all over again, meaning she would have to earn her way back into the rank of Overlord and the power that comes with it.
even if Lilith is a possible villain of the series, but she could be a mini-boss compared to Roo, who could be the true villain and antagonist as well as the true boss fight in the future.
and in theory, if Charlie had to fight Lilith in the future, it could be possible the next villain she would have to fight might be Roo, the very woman that had started Lilith's corruption in the first place.
I will make part 2 of this in a little while, after talking about a Helluva Boss theory...the part 2 of this will talk a bit more about Roo and her involvement on how Lilith was able to get into and stay in Heaven.
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kevotsuka · 5 months ago
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thanks to @whatwepostintheshadows and @lastlatebraker for tag me, im o sorry all of my wips are a bit...
RULES: Make a new post with the names of all the files in your WIP folder, regardless of how non-descriptive or ridiculous. Let people send you an ask with the title that most intrigues them, and then post a little snippet or tell them something about it! And then tag as many people as you have WIPs. (um, i can not-)
I don't think i can list all of them, honestly. And all of them are in spanish but if you ask i can talk about it (or traslate my notes) (if tumblr let me in in my inbox...)
(Also i'm gonna cheat because i don't want to put here my OC's fics sorry my babies are made for pegging bez in my drafts and they love stay there)
MotoGP:
Souldoors | Lucalex
Fake wedding au | lucalex
Preg! Bez | MB72
Mechanic Alex AU | lucalex
Ghoul AU | MotoGP
Uni Roomies AU | lucalex
QPR | AM73, lucalex
Hogwarts AU | MotoGP
Cupid AU (red strings) | MB72, AM73
Nudo Gordiano (fake wedding AU) | lucalex
Uni DORNA au | motogp
El romance, la sexualidad y el tedio: una tesis | AM73
others fandoms under the cut:
Tokyo Revengers:
From life unto life and for always (I'll be there when you need me around) - Soulmate AU | KokoNui
Mitsuya . NSFW rokuhara | MitsuRan
Rumor en las olas | TR Pirates AU
Dude (looks like a lady) | MitsuRan
Vampiro AU | RanMitsu
Lo que no se dice (puedo sentirlo en mi alma) - Instituto Soulmates | KokoInu
mitsuya - plan | Ranmitsu
mitsuya . Ran fantasma AU | ranmitsu
twist | ranmitsu
yuzusen motogp esquema
Santake dead dove
Blanco | Ranmitsu
Alice in N.Y | Ranmitsu
SPY x Family AU | ranmitsu
Ran - Conspiración Boten | MitsuRan
Conspiración navideña | Mitsuran, Ringry, Kokoinu
Inupi - Soulmate AU extra 4.5| kokonui
Tenjiku Mitsuya | Ranmitsu
Case 143 | ranmitsuhoya
Flame Lore | TR Katekyo AU
¿? - Soulmate AU | mitsuran
Koko - Hanahaki Disease | Inukoko
Kakucho - Instituto Soulmates | IzaKaku
Doggie | BajiKoko
Ran - Time Travel AU | Mitsuran
Koko - BNHA x KHR AU | bajikoko
Vals para tres | RanMitsuHoya
TokRev Ent. | ranley
Matrimonio Deuda | RanMitsuHoya
3 + 1 Ranley
Poetas Muertos (24.02.2022) | Mitsuran
Isekai HP | ranmitsu
El shinigami y el general del invierno - Hwayugi AU | Ringry
Doc x Shinigami - Death Note AU | ranmitsu
La araña tras la cascada - hwayugi AU | ranmitsu
notas | Maestros AU
Otros
Por ti, para hacerte feliz | Soukoku (BSD)
MuraHina (Haikyuu x Kuroko no Basket)
Cain & Abel (Hazbin Hotel)
yo soy tu, tu eres yo [sol y gravedad] | kacchako (BNHA)
Versace Prince | Hyunibini (SKZ RPF)
i have too many wips... im exausted and this isn't the half of them but
and tagging no one because
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toiletpudding · 7 days ago
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Pt. 11
I sleep now 🫠
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[Image Description: a four-panel comic featuring Adam; along with hypothetical versions of Eve and their children, from “Hazbin Hotel”.
“Aclima! Cain!” Adam calls. “Come meet your new brother!”
Eve shows her two oldest children the tiny baby cradled in her arms. “This is Abel.”
Aclima instantly loves her new baby brother. “Aww! Hi, baby!” she coos.
Cain, by contrast, is unimpressed. “Why is he so ugly?” he sneers.
“Shut up!” Adam roars. “You were an ugly baby, too!”
“Not as ugly as you!” Cain retorts.
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Cain a hater from day one
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darkmasterofcupcakes · 9 months ago
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Considering Abel died because of his brother's jealousy, he definitely would feel like bad about being shitty to Vaggie because her mother is genuinely cared for by Adam.
I feel like Abel is one of the few persons with whom Adam is fine talking of Vaggie as his daughter.
While Adam doesn't act as a father with her, he spend enough time with Lute, with or without sex, that he definitely see Vaggie every day.
So I can see Adam mention Vaggie casually whenever he talk to Abel, both because he know his son enough to know Abel honestly is interested in her despite trying not to, and because Adam, despite being who he is, actually like that she's his daughter and he think of her, simply, he doesn't talk of it with people who he know will be judgemental.
Abel would be judgemental, but he also would make sure not to show it, and also, Adam would definitely be genuinely dismissive of judgement from his son on such matters, and the fact that Abel's own dislike of Adam "cheating on Eve" mean that he wouldn't want Adam to step up for her mean that Adam know he's not gonna hear such things.
I can see Emily let slip that Vaggie was at the debate for the matter of redemption of hellbound sinners.
Especially because, again, he fully understands that Vaggie herself had absolutely no say in the circumstances of her birth, so he feels like feeling any kind of real anger towards her would just be needlessly cruel.
The fact that Adam sees Vaggie pretty much every day - even if he doesn't really acknowledge her most of the time until she's much older - does spark the tiniest bit of jealousy in Abel. Though he tempers it a bit by reminding himself that it's not that his father wants to see Vaggie more than he wants to see him. It really is a case of him either just seeing Lute at work, so wanting to visit her for "personal" reasons at home, and because Lute likes to usually keep Vaggie close to her, especially when she's out, that means Adam usually ends up seeing Vaggie as well.
Adam does talk to Abel about Vaggie sometimes, yeah. Though him telling Abel that Vaggie was his sister was something that just slipped completely by accident one day when they were talking. Probably shortly after Vaggie was born, since Abel, unable to help himself, would mention that he both hadn't seen Lute around much the past couple weeks, and his father had been around a bit more frequently than usual. And Adam not only talks about how Lute had a baby...but slips that the baby is his basically by just venting a little about how he's annoyed that he can't do anything fun with Lute for a bit because she both needs to recover and rest from the birth, and he knows the baby will be crying too often for them to get anything done; and while Abel is already feeling unsure of what to say, Adam just, without thinking, goes, "Would'a made sure I didn't knock her up if I knew this was gonna happen."
Emily letting it slip that Vaggie was there with Charlie was likely how Abel found out that Vaggie was still alive, since as far as he knew, she had been missing and at least presumed dead for years.
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jknerd · 5 years ago
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Hazbin Hotel & Helluva Boss AU: Cain
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True Name: Cain Ambrogio Likes: Gardening, polishing his bladed weapons, architect designing, brewing teas Species: Human (formerly), Demon/Vampire Gender: Male Sexuality: Bisexual Occuption: Overlord/Father of Vampires, Founder of Pentgram City, Babi’s mentor (formerly) Family: Adam (father; estranged), Eve (mother; estranged), Abel (brother; estranged), Jezebel (wife; in hell), Vera (daughter; with Jezebel) Others: Lucifer Magne (mentor; surrogate father), Lilith Magne (mentor; surrogate mother), Charlie Magne (friend), Blitzo (employer) Status: Alive Cain was firstborn of Adam and Eve, older brother of Abel whom he murdered. He is also known as “Father of Vampires” ever since he was taken in by Lucifer and Lilith Magne. Cain has an ability to control hostile, dangerous hell flowers/plants and turn mortal sinners into vampires. As first son of Adam and Eve, he did not gain much affection from them as they favored Abel over him. Learning the reason why is that Adam and Eve believed him to be a bastard son of her and the devil, Cain developed hatred towards his family, envious of his brother Abel to the point he committed fratricide. Banished, Cain encountered Lucifer and Lilith who willingly take him in and given him a power. When Adam and Eve learned that Abel was indeed their son, they tried to look for him, only to be stopped by Michael who forbade them to search for their “evil seed”. Cain was one of guests of honor who have visited Lucifer and Lilith when they had Charlie. Also, he once taught Babi, daughter of Asmodeus, history and abilities of vampires until Sade came alone. During a slight competition between them, Cain resigned as her tutor. Centuries passed, he encountered Jezebel, the former prostitute in Pentagram city, and bought her from the Porn Studio as his wife. He found her name “Deep Throat” repulsive he changed it as “Jezebel” and much later, both have a daughter named Vira. Currently, he is the one who is spreading Corona-Virus across the world with his control over bats. Cain has a rather strong Italian accent and is fluent with it as he also speak Latin, Hebrew, Spanish, French and German. Raised as unfavored son, Cain has been very resentful of his parents and brother Abel, believing his brother would be looking down at him for not became a favored one of a god. He once had remorse in killing his brother, but feeling that he is not at fault, Cain felt disgust in favoritism and the negligence he felt from Adam and Eve. As a first vampire, Cain is strongest and oldest as he is immune from sunlight, garlics, and holy water. The reason why he spread Corona-Virus is that he wanted to see how most Americans and Europeans would commit racial attacks at Asians in belief they spread the disease, then would stop and pretend their hate never happen when the virus is gone. In other words, the racial segregation happened because the Bible portrayed him and his descendants as “dark-skinned” and out of spite, Cain caused the virus in China. Although he doesn’t really believe in complete redemption, he cares for his friend Charlie. As murder is one of his major businesses, Cain agreed to let Blitzo open his Immediate Murder Professional company. He married Jezebel to spite Heaven, but he have grown fond of her and their daughter to the point he refuse to let angels/exterminators or his estranged family to ever meet them. 
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cutepastelstarsalior · 5 years ago
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My version of Hazbin Hotel
In this world, when someone dies, they are either reincarnated, or sent to either Heaven, Purgatory, or Hell.
Heaven, Purgatory and Hell are all physical places, like a continent. Each “continent” has its own “country” ( if someone from a Christian religion when to “heaven” that person would go to the country that had that the person version of heaven). Heaven in this world isn’t called heaven it’s called Euphoria. The same thing with Hell, it has its own countries too. Hell also has a different name, its called Dysphoria. 
In Euphoria and in Dysphoria all countries are named after a religion. Also in Euphoria and Dysphoria all countries have a ruler that takes care of their country and their people. And each bi-month the rules of each country would meet each other. Then on New Years Day, 2 rulers from Euphoriaand 2 rulers from Dysphoria would meet with each other to talk about if there is any problems or success. 
In Christianity, Lucifer is the ruler of their country. When Lucifer was banished from Euphoria to live in Dysphoria, he was curse to never have any offspring. At first it was fine, Lucifer was in a polygamous relationship (they had three partners). Lucifer and his partners would adopt human and non-human children or Lucifer’s partners would have donner or surrogate children. But one day Lucifer wanted a child that had his DNA, so he and partners created a child with magic. The child was a girl; Charlotte.
Charlie is a half goat half snake girl. (Her lower half is a snake and he upper half is a goat, she has horns, hoofed hands, one of her pupils is sideways and the other is split, she had fur on her upper half, and scales on her lower half,) She is the youngest of 8 siblings. (Her siblings represent the 7 deadly sins). She is silly and fun girl who loves musical,theater, and art. Even though she is the baby of the family she is determined to become a great ruler for her county. But she is mostly ignored by her family and is belittle and made fun of by her people.
One day Charlie notice that in Christianity country that more and more morality grey human are arriving. At first Charlie thinks nothing of it, but when she goes to the bi-monthly meeting with her father, it was reviled that the morality grey humans were coming into all the countries. At first the rules were confused why were morality grey humans coming to Dysphoria and not to Euphoria. Was there a mistake in Purgatory’s control system? Where these morality grey humans too dangerous to be reincarnated? Without being able to get contact from Purgatory the new humans were forced to stay in Dysphoria until further notice.
In Christality, it is a place of fire and ice, of pain and suffering, both physically and mentally. To torture you mentally, Lucifer created a drink that when someone ingest it, it would give it’s victims a horror base reality, the persons fears and darks thoughts would manifest itself into reality. (Think of Silent Hill).
Somehow the postion spread its way from Christianity into the other countries. All the other rules blamed Lucifer. After hearing the fact that something was wrong, Charlie decide to do something about it. That way her father wouldn’t no longer be blamed, the grey-morality people would go to their proper place, and Charlie would be seen as a hero and would be respected. So Charlie then created a plan, a Academy to have morality grey people to learn to be a better person and to be abel to go either to Euphoria or to be reincarnated.
After pleading with her father, siblings, and parents. Charlie finally wore down Lucifer and he reluctantly gave into Charlie’s plan. Excited Charlie got her siblings, money, equipment, and the place to make the academy. Months later Charlie then goes onto Katie Killjoy news station to promote all over the continent of Dysphoria’s Academy for The Morality Confused Sinners. A place were were morality grey humans, creatures, or sinners who feel like they are treated unfair get to live and study at the academy to learn how to be better people.
After promoting the Academy, Charlie is immediate laugh at by Katie and her people. Feeling upset Charlie goes home. A week later five new people show up at the Academy. Violet (it’s vaggie but with a different name since I don’t like her original one), who is Yellow Wolly Bear moth girl. Husk, who is a Selkirk Rex cat. Niffty who is a cyclops, and Razzel and Dazzel, two demon goats. They all want to help Charlie to run the Acadmey.
Angel Web and his siblings are the first to sign up from the Academy. Angel is a centaur tarantula, his twin sister, Molly is anthropomorphic wolf jumping spider and their older brother, Arackniss is a human with spider features. Angel explain to Charlie that he and his siblings aren’t supposed to be in Dysphoria they’re supposed to be in Purgatory. When they were alive, their father was sick and they came from a poor family.
To pay the bills and to help their father Arackniss start to work for the Italian mafia, Molly stole and sold drugs, and Angel became a sex worker and stole from cops, and from his rich clients. They didn’t do the things they did for fun, they did it to help their family.
After hearing their story, Charlie agrees for them to stay and study at the Academy. Soon a year goes by, the Academy got better and gets more students, but morality grey humans and the alter reality potion were still a problem. So Charlie and her friends decided to go investigate what is happening. ( if this was an actual show this would be season 2).
It’s later reveled that the morality grey humans and the missing potions were cause by Alastor. Alastor was once a human who lived, died, and when to Purgatory. But as more and more people died, people when to Purgatory instead of Euphoria and Dysphoria. Soon Purgatory was getting overfull.
It’s then revealed that 2 years ago a frustrated Alastor hacked into Purgatory’s control system and made all the recent humans be split into two groups. One group when into Euphoria and the others when into Dysphoria. Alastor also when down into Dysphoria, an became the all power Radio Demon. After getting his power, Alastor then went into the royal castle, stole the alter reality potion and dump it into the continent’s water supply. 
Alastor is somehow captured and force to be sent to Christianity to be punished. Lucifer then gets a hold of all the continent’s rulers, tells then what is going on, cleans up the water supply, and later gets a hold of Purgatory and Euphoria and tells them what is going on as well. Charlie is happy and is appreciated by her family and people. Violet and Charlie end up together, Angel and his family are sent to be reincarnated together, and Niffty, Husk, Razzel and Dazzle keep helping Charlie with her Academy.
The end
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queenofcandynsoda · 5 years ago
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Hazbin Hotel OC: Jezebel
Jezebel
Former Name: Deep Throat
True Name: Jozska Melnyk
Title: Mother of the Vampires
Likes: Pampushka, varenye, flowers (mostly Hell Moon Flowers), her teddy bear, her pet bat Kitti, textile arts, dancing, Cain
Species: Human (formerly), Wire Demon
Gender: Female
Sexuality: Heterosexual
Appearance: Jezebel has blue skin, blue lips, red eyes, and long purple hair. She has wires jutting out of her cheeks then splitting into six, each piece holding open a different part of her neck open. Her teeth and fingernails are primarily nails, razor blades, and needles. Her ribcage is made of tons of thin wires. Due to the severe damage of her throat when she was alive, her voice is currently gravelly and deep. As a prostitute, she wore a black and dark blue tube top, denim shorts, and black heeled boots along with silver hoop earrings. After being freed by Cain and marrying him, she wears a green and blue floral dress and blue flats. She also wears a black choker necklace with a sapphire. She also gains a new set of razor blade teeth, which appears more human and has fangs. She wears lighter makeup in her marriage.
Occupation: Prostitute (formerly), Housewife
Family: Lyubov Melnyk (mother; erased from existence), Svante Smirnov (step-father; erased from existence), Vasyl Koval (father; erased from existence), Vira (daughter)
Others: Cain (husband), Angel Dust (closest friend), Diablesse (closest friend), Snuff (former owner; previous life), Valentino (former boss), Sade (former regular client), Adan (father-in-law), Eve (mother-in-law), Abel (brother-in-law)
Status: Active
About: Jezebel is a friend of Angel Dust, the wife of Cain, the mother of his daughter, Vira, and the Mother of the Vampires. She has the ability to control the wires, nails, razor blades, and needles in her body to get blood to fed her daughter. Jezebel was a young woman who was a sex slave in her previous life. Her step-father sold her to a man now known as Snuff to get money when she was ten to get money to fuel her mother’s drug addiction. When her father, who was trying to get custody of her, learned of this, he murdered both of them. During his search for her, he was killed by Snuff when he realized that he couldn’t bride him. Because he murdered two people, who were very awful garbage people, he was sent to Hell along with them. Jezebel suffered eleven years of brutality, such as being rape, having her teeth ripped off, forced to take drugs, and forced to kill her pet bird. She died in a snuff film where she choked to death during a blowjob when she was twenty-two in 2007. Despite she was never at fault for this, Jezebel got sent to Hell for having a “sinful lifestyle”. This caused her to blame herself for her horrible fate in life. In order to survive in Hell, Jezebel works in Valentino’s Porn Studio. However, she encounters men like Sade, who brutally rape and dismember her to satisfy his sick pleasures. She was able to become friends with Angel Dust, who gave her the teddy bear as comfort. After years under this, Cain, the first murderer and the “Father of the Vampire”, bought her from the Porn Studio but not as a slave but as a spouse. He then changed her name from Deep Throat to Jezebel. During a recent purge, Jezebel finally got to see her father again after years. However, he was heavily injured from the Exterminators being led by Michael. After her mother and step-father got brutally massacred, Vasyl was able to talk to her. He apologized for not being able to protect, though Jezebel didn’t think it’s his fault. Then he told Cain to protect his daughter. When Cain and Jezebel hid from the Exterminators, Vasyl was brutally decapitated by Michael, who gave him NO sympathy and told him that he should’ve fought for custody for her harder. After the birth of their daughter, Jezebel REFUSED to let Cain’s family or angels see her. It’s because she believes that they would try to kill her baby.
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Hazbin Hotel Theory: Was Adam & Lilith Once Adalith...? (Also In Real Life or Myths: Cain Might Be Lilith's Son-In-Law) Part 1
[Note: make sure you had watched Season 1 of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss before reading this because there will be spoilers, Mature Audience Readers Only, also this post is not for kids...]
so I will start with the Hazbin Hotel Theory, before talking about Cain marrying and having a family with one of Lilith's daughters...
there is a story that has to do with how Adam and Eve were once one in the same, that they were "hermaphrodite" (not to be confused as Intersex, we cannot confuse them...I still suspect I might be one of the Intersex types but I'm not 100% sure...) and something about them being split into Male and Female forms.
like what if in that story book Charlie was reading, it only told half of the story...and left out the parts that Adam and Lilith use to be someone called Adalith, like it being Ada-Lith...
from the dust of Earth, Adalith was made but then they were forced to become two beings that will bare half their names...
and they were named Adam and Lilith.
like while Lilith seem sweet and caring on the outside, she was not so much deep inside, and while Adam was well full of himself the way he was and is...
deep down he could be a big softy who lets out more of his anger than his sadness and tears.
Adam and Lilith, could make up the Best & Worst Traits of Adalith.
also it could be possible from our universe, Lilith had Adam's babies in a cave and they weren't monsters or demons, but she may have had such offspring later on the longer she and Adam were separated and well how three angels tried to force her to return to Adam.
it could be possible that Lilith, kept her human children safe and hidden, and they could of been twins or triplets or quadruplets that were the sons and daughters of Lilith and Adam.
and if it is true that Eve and Samael (or to some it could be either him or Lucifer) that had become the bio-parents of Cain, but no matter if Samael or Lucifer were the Bio-Dads, Adam did raise him even if I still think he may have been a Gray-Parent...but he could of still loved Cain and he could still be considered Cain's REAL Father...
so yeah, after Cain was kicked out after what happen to Abel...
he likely did meet one of Lilith's daughters, and possibly fell hopelessly in love with I guess who he viewed as a "Angel"...
I mean she could of still been human, and since she couldn't of been the other daughters of Eve and Adam, and it could be possible that in theory, Cain may have married one of them later on in his life, possibly...
but it would mean Lilith's bloodline & Adam's bloodline, ended up well like...you know, the one that Cain married was already Lilith & Adam's daughter, but Cain was Eve and whoever which one that isn't Adam that is the Bio-Dad...
also if this was a thing in like a Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss AU in a Fanon Timeline, this would mean Charlie would be a Auntie...
I will just call Lilith's daughter "Daisy" for now.
it might be possible that Daisy, could of been a Earth Angel and well maybe both her and her siblings that are possibly twins, triplets and or quadruplets.
Cain and Daisy could of ran away, without Lilith and her other siblings knowing, and they ended up starting a new life together as well as a new family.
I had found some info that had to do with Adam and Lilith having children, and well the post I found was by someone named Rebecca and I'm not sure if she would want me to say her full name on here or not...
and while the info does say that Cain and Lilith's Daughter, were half-sister...
it could be possible that Adam could still technically be biologically related, but we know that Seth is Adam's Biological Son who is still my and other people's ancestor.
it would be interesting if in Hazbin Hotel, Adam and Eve were one in the same, which I have some fanfics I read to thank for that...cause I can't help but love that idea and concept.
if Daisy or whatever her name would be, did exist in the Hazbin Hotel Universe...but with no other siblings during that time until many years and centuries later, Charlie would be born.
Daisy would of been born BEFORE Lilith and Lucifer were punished for giving Eve that apple, but in different stories it could be any fruit but in Hazbin Hotel and other works, it is an apple.
Daisy was likely left alone, until one day she met and fell in love with Cain, and for all we know the two of them could of zinged like from Hotel Transylvania.
and at some point, a close descendant maybe like a Granddaughter of Daisy and Cain, could of met one of Seth's descendants and had a "zing" with them too, having fell accidentally in love.
even if Lilith and and Adam were suppose to be together (and it's okay if my theory about them being Adalith once gets debunked. also if some do want to skips some parts of this, keep a eye out for the bold words when scroll down. )
they likely didn't feel a "zing" even if they may have tried to make it work...
but in theory, since Adam and Lilith didn't fall in love but instead their possible daughter from our universe did fall in love with the son of Eve, that is Cain.
I mean it could be possible, not everyone has to agree about it though.
it could mean that some percent of Earth Angels, who are born Humans, would end up being well you know...
and even if the Adam from our universe messed up, he couldn't of known what would happen and yeah if he did, maybe he would of gave Lilith the space she needed...
also it could be possible that if a soul in human form dies a bit too early more than once, even if they are like a Earth Angel or not...
their soul could possibly end up suffering from some form of damage, one of which only being able to recall a small bits and pieces of past life memories but not all of them and some memories might be a bit well would the word be distorted...?
it could be possible that some memories might belong to the Earth Angel's Soul Parent or Parents if they are a fusion Soul.
they would need to figure out which memory from a past life is theirs, and which one is a copy from their Soul Parent.
in theory if a Earth Angel who's Soul has been around for a super long time and centuries even, were to break a small piece of themself and it would later form into a newborn earth angel.
it could be possible the new soul would be very fragile and could later figure this out and realize it does not work 100% the same like other humans who are earth angels...and they might view themself as Defective and a Accident.
well I don't really mind being a Defective Earth Angel...
I guess I can try not to think of myself as a Accident...
and I know that not everyone will listen or take my new belief seriously, and I'm not gonna force convert.
I can still believe in the Heavenly-Father, but I also believe in the Earthly-Mother now as well...
and realizing something is really wrong, that we had been going through a type of imbalance but at the same time the balance is trying to be fixed...
but I can't force people to see the truth, that it could be possible that the Feminine might be hurting.
it could be possible, it's just some may choose to ignore it.
just like there is more to the past and why men ended up with so much power and some of them treating women not so great back in centuries past...
it could be possible that Sera may have harmed the balance without realizing it, by allowing the Extermination to happen to the Sinners.
I mean I still think only half of them should be taken out, but not all of them because not all of them are 100% evil and some are just hurt.
it might not be likely Grandpa King David or Grandpa King Solomon will be mentioned or have counterparts in Hazbin Hotel or Helluva Boss's canon and might only show up in the fanon...
but yeah if anyone deserves to be taken out by Lute and the rest of the Exorcist Angels...
it would be the two disgusting inhuman filth that are Amnon and Jonadab...
even if they would only be in a Fanon Timeline in a AU of Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss...
those two can NOT be redeemed for the harm they had done...
even if King David loved Amnon, but he should of still punished him even if it were just locking him in his room and he was not allowed to leave his room without a escort.
like in the words of Moxxie, "could be a bit more selective."
Charlie and Emily are still in the right on the rules being gray...
and Emily had every right to be upset with Sera for keeping the truth from her...
but I think both the Redemption and Extermination could both work, I mean it could be possible that in Hazbin Hotel, not all the Sinners are bad even if they might seem so.
this could also mean that not all Winners are good, and some half of them shouldn't of went to Heaven in the first place.
this could hint that the balance is in a imbalance.
if Adam and Lilith were once one body, but they became no longer balanced.
Charlie could turn out to be a big destiny, and no NOT as a Antichrist like some may have theorized...but I don't think that is her destiny.
part of her destiny is obviously to save her family the Sinners who can be saved and still have good in them.
and well if some percent of the half of the Sinners are descendants of Cain, it could be possible that Charlie and Cain could be in theory, half-siblings.
I think I'm pulling a Alastor again, well ya know with the Radio.
the signal does seem a bit okay, but the green light keeps flashing a bit, or flickering.
but when I put my hand pointed to it the green light becomes a bit better even if it still flickers a bit.
but then when I physically touch the Radio with my hand.
the sound gets a bit better and the green light flickers a bit but is a bit better I think but there is still a bit of static sound mixed with the talking and music coming from the radio.
well at least it seems to only happen once in a while.
but at least it isn't fully like Alastor's powers, even if it is freaky and yet kind of cool that the freaky thing with the radio at our home, acts the way it does...
and there is that whole my spirit animal is suppose to be a deer...
or I could use the word spirit familiar, I mean some might say "your Native American" and you can't use the word "spirit animal"...
well excuse me for not being like my Native American Ancestors...
I mean both myself and a lot of people have mixed heritages.
but even if there will be some who might think you shouldn't use the whole "spirit animal" for yourself, but I'm just remembering about some post on some other place I had found before, can't remember everything that it said but I know it had something to do with saying how some should stop using spirit animals and it something to do with them not being Native American...
anyway with the whole freaky thing that has been going on with the radio for me, and the whole my spirit animal is suppose to be a deer...
it just gonna remind me a bit more of Alastor.
the green light isn't showing on the radio now, but the sound is a bit faint and small I think...but when I put my hand on it, like you know physically touch it, the sound gets a bit better and the green light shows up again.
still weird, but still interesting...
the song playing is "She's A Wild One"...
I'll keep my other hand on the radio while I use the other to type.
at least until the song is finished...
okay now I can type with both hands again...
just wanted to listen to it without the signal becoming a bit poor if I move my hand off.
anyway besides the whole weird thing with the radio, which once again only happens once a while...
and besides the theory which might be more of a hypothetical theory, like what if it were true that Adam and Lilith were once one in the same before they were split apart and their name use to be Adalith.
the only ones who could of known were the Elders, one of them being Sera.
and Lucifer, Charlie's Dad would not know that Lilith wasn't always Lilith and both she and Adam use to be one and the same person until Sera split their original self Adalith into Adam and Lilith.
and there could be a even bigger secret that has to do with Eve that we don't know of, but maybe we will learn more about her in one of the future seasons.
and if Cain and Abel did appear in a future episode of Hazbin Hotel, we don't know how they will be like but we can't truly say they will show up in the show, they might not or maybe they will.
we will have to wait and see what happens.
anyway there could be some parts of Adam and Lilith's past, that Lilith left out of that story that was in the book that Charlie was reading.
it is possible the book is full of half-truths and half-lies, and either Lilith or Lucifer wanted to protect Charlie from the full truth.
I need to go to bed, I'm going to do one more thing, like editing my last post a bit and well hopefully later or tomorrow I can finally talk about my thoughts about Empath type Epilepsy, I have been meaning to talk about it in a new post, but haven't really got to it...
I think I had talked about it before, about how some energies could possibly be the reason for some Epilepsy but maybe not all of them.
I think I will talk a bit more about the whole Hazbin Hotel theory and the possible truth or myth that has to do with the daughter of Lilith and Adam, having ended up marrying Cain the son of Eve and well technically Adam who can still be considered the true father, biological or not.
I'll talk a bit more about the whole Adalith theory when I come back either later or tomorrow...
hope I can talk more about the theory later...
but right now I need to head to bed...right after I post this and take care of some editing just a bit on that last post...
also yes, some may have already guessed that Amnon and Jonadab aren't my favorites, but I think in a AU in a Fanon Timeline...
if they went to the hotel, and if they are greeted by Alastor who opens the door to see them...
but Alastor should slam the door in their faces...
I know those two wont show up in the canon, but in the fanon they would so be turned down for redemption in the hotel...
they are just the types, I think wouldn't be redeemed like EVER.
Alastor has more of a chance than those two, and I'm still going to view those two as disgusting.
there could be many different Sinners that live in the Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss Universe, that can be redeemed and some who can't because they don't have any small piece of goodness in them.
also I hope some agree about the theory, that it could be possible that half the Winners in Heaven that is in Hazbin Hotel, shouldn't of ended up in Heaven in the first place, but only some percent of Winners do belong in Heaven.
just like some percent of the Sinners that ended up in Heck, should be Winners in Heaven, while only some Sinners do belong in Heck.
so only some half of Winners who ended up in Heaven, but are suppose to go to the Pride Ring, should be Sinners.
while half of the Sinners that do end up in the Pride Ring, but aren't really evil but still have good hearts and maybe never did a truly evil thing in their life...
could of mistakenly been send to the Pride Ring and became a "Sinner" but in fact they were suppose to go to Heaven and become a Winner.
wonder how big of a freakout would happen if it turns out that theory turns out to be true, that half of the Sinners are suppose to be Winners and vice-versa.
also is it possible that Charlie might be Half-Sinner, if she has red blood like the other Sinners do when they were once human even though there are some humans in real life that don't have red blood, but have that is called gold blood...
I think I will talk about the possible theory that Charlie is Half-Sinner & Half-Hellborn another time...but even if that were true, Charlie's Dad Lucifer, may have never viewed her as a Sinner.
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