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took me a hot sec to get used to i3's manual tiling again. i need to look into the possibility of tabs in awesomewm bc i will miss that as a feature, but for simple stuff (2-3 window splits, sticking stuff on multiple tags for dynamic workflow) it's much faster than i3
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i (now) use arch btw
after a few months of not posting anything here, i finally managed to get arch working with awesomewm :)
initially when i tried a few months back, it was going fine until i could no longer hear audio for some reason lol. after searching for a solution i eventually gave up and retreated back to mint for the time being. after getting my infamous itch to just nuke everything and start again, i reinstalled arch and tried once again and i gotta say, its been going REALLY well.
the first time i ever attempted an install of arch (before archinstall was a thing) i somehow forgot to install a network manager and therefore couldnt really do much else. i really enjoyed setting it all up manually, but the fact that in the end i didnt really have it working was very annoying. the next time around, archinstall was there to back me up and its made everything so much easier!!! for me its broken down the barrier of entry significantly. i simply chose the desktop setup i wanted, and it chose the relevant packages. i went with a window manager rather than a full desktop environment this time around, more specifically awesomeWM. i wanted to go with something more bare-bones and configure it from the ground up so i could learn what sort of packages go into a full de. in addition people often talk about how much more efficient they find using wms, both productivity and resource wise. i see why! my entire operating system on boot uses like <500mb of ram, which is baffling that its possible. plus, the use of shortcuts of navigating around has been great.
i ended up going with awesome as nvidia has been absolutely the biggest issue with this whole process. for some reason my graphics card just HATES wayland which eliminates some options off the bat. ive had soo many issues in the past with it, so trying to use xorg is probably my best bet going forward and luckily its still a very popular choice, no shortage of resources for me. i did have a few issues setting it up on arch, as i wasnt really familiar with how to configure it at first but getting nvidia-settings it made it much easier for me for now.
pacman was an interesting change to get used to. discovering that it didnt have some packages that i have usually was interesting, but then shortly i discovered the aur and yay. it opened me up to a wide range of new packages that werent even on some of the package managers i had tried previously, like dnf and apt. in contrast to those, i found pacman and now yay much easier and incredibly fast to use. there just becomes more and more reasons to use arch every time i open it haha.
one of the things i havent got around to choosing is a file manager. having to navigate my files entirely by terminal has helped build the muscle memory of commands i didnt know before. plus may even be faster than i found previously? i may get around to setting up some aliases if i feel like i could shorten some tasks. using cli packages in terminal over graphical packages has helped me to learn git some more as well, which im sure will be useful for me in the years to come. in regards to the terminal too, im looking into switching to zsh instead of bash which i currently dont know what the difference is between shells or what they do exactly but ill find out.
i have only been using arch consistently for a few days at this point. and awesome is still pretty ugly, so the next task for me is to spice it up a bit with some theming. i dont have much, if any, experience with lua, which apparently is the language that awesome uses to write its dotfiles (also took me a minute to learn what dotfiles actually were). the last time i used lua was probably in roblox studio at like the age of 10 or something, so its been a while. i have a few articles and videos lined up that i need to watch for an introduction, so i already have an idea of where to start. with that said however, if anyone has any advice or tips send them my way!
now the obvious question for myself after this is what project am i actually going to do next? i want to actually develop software but i find it extremely intimidating. so there are a couple options for me going forward. one of the big ideas in my mind is developing a longer form game project in godot. i have developed smaller projects in the past to get used to the engine, but i want to try my hand at doing something over the course of multiple weeks. i have poor time management skills and tend to get sidetracked with other projects but i really want something i can chip away at every day for a few hours. and i think a game could be just that! plus, it gives me a creative outlet as well. i can make the music and art for that and combine a few hobbies into one.
arch & awesome has been definitely an interesting change to get used to, but it has been so fun! learning how to do everything myself has been what i have been craving and every day i regret abandoning windows less and less. i cannot sing the praises of linux and its community enough for scratching my brain in the right places! at some point i want to make a post detailing my full journey with linux, so keep an eye or two out for that.
if anyone wants to talk with me about any of this feel free to send me a message! dms are always open :)
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Also I think I'm finally starting to understand how window managers work! ^^
KDE at 144hz is just... wow. The animations are so smooth!
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all this advancement in technology and we still dont have decent ways to have an animated desktop wallpaper. world gone to shit
#trying to have my custom firefox theme have an animated background but the 1mb file size limit is ludicrous#best windows can do is that slideshow mode i talked about.#trying to figure this kind of stuff out bc im getting into linux again.. awesomewm might let me code an animated bg perhaps#dextxt
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Depressing fact: the Amazon Kindle e-reader runs fairly mainline Linux! The home screen / launcher is actually a heavily riced AwesomeWM!
(this definitely used to be true, I'm not sure about the new ones)
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finally bite the bullet and try swapping out a classic desktop environment for a tiling window manager (and my first incursion with wayland too). It seemed like a lot of hassle when we have perfectly usable DEs and KDE Plasma is the best desktop I've ever used... but... well why not it’s a waste to not try new things on linux and I like customizing stuff.
I've tried bspwm, qtile and hyprland (wayland compositor). My favorite right now in the way it handles the windows is bspwm (the sailor moon wallpaper > https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/3090720 and the picture for the rofi app launcher is from @babypears - https://babypears.tumblr.com/post/634408945711218688/sailor-scouts). Ridiculously simple and does everything that i want between switching, moving, window rules, layouts... Qtile is probably the most extensive one. Hyprland is the shiny new toy with fancy animations, gradient borders and my transition to wayland was mostly smooth except the headache of having the same look for gtk & qt apps (but it's not a hypr thing).
I'm still trying to iron out some things like scratchpads, clickable action on widgets, polybar stuff (i hate polybar), trying different forks of picom... At the end of the day, i'm still using the same stuff... dolphin, kate, gimp, firefox, kitty, keepass, mpv, qbittorrent, cmus, fish, zsh, rofi, rsync, fzf, ffmpeg etc...
I'll probably try awesomewm and another wayland one too, i'll keep the configs ready to hop in case of and i'll be back on plasma for the 6 release.
(qtile - John Atkinson Grimshaw - Shipping on the Clyde)
(hyprland)
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Straight up learning Lua just so I can configure Wezterm to the extent I want to...
(it's purely a bonus that Neovim utilizes Lua as much as it does)
I swear I can never let anything be easy for myself cuz I'm also still learning shell & command line to begin with & I downloaded rofi so I gotta read up on configuring that & I want to eventually switch over to a window manager like awesomewm or something until I'm comfortable enough to switch to hyprland under wayland. Ugh!!
So much reading ...
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okay so that's maybe. 1 to 2 hours trying to figure out how to set up awesomewm on my computer. haven't completely failed but utterly vexed by the process of using the theme file to set my background. also i so hungry now what happened
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okie the ability to put multiple tags on an application in awesomewm is huge for like temporary layouts and stuff. way better than having to like move them and then move them back to wherever you prefer them to normally live
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debian 12 with awesomewm in 100 megs of ram :3
on a toshiba tecra A1, from around 2004. Pentium 4 mobile, 768MB RAM, 60GB IDE hard drive. not the most minimal system ever, but pretty damn good. in 524 packages as well :>
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real tempted to hop to arch so i can make some openbox/awesomewm r/unixporn aesthetic setup but im already pretty settled in on my shitty kubuntu macOS ripoff setup i don't wanna reinstall all my shit. and if it ain't broke don't fix it yknow
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In the end are all suggested distros ok (although I personally don't like Manjaro). There is no right or wrong awnser. So if unsure, just roll a dice or something.
And for DEs, some additional suggestions:
- Cosmic recently started their alpha. Made by the PopOS team and pretty much the first full DE that has real tiling
- If you want something that looks a bit more old/classic, mate, XFCE, LXDE and LXQT have a bit of an Windows 7 look. I'd say LXDE even a bit of Windows XP.
- If you want to look for a WM, Hyprland is pretty good (although the creator is a tiny bit problematic. *Explanation under the cut). And if you want to look into other wayland based WMs, River looks interesting and Sway is an almost drop-in-replacemet for i3.
- And of course, the classic WMs are still around (awesomeWM, i3, dwm, bspwm, xmonad etc.)
And final tipp: almost nothing beats the arch wiki in information about how to get some linux components to work.
* Vaxry does not seem to be a bigot, but a centrist who is defending the "I don't care about politics as long the discussion stays on topic for my project" stance so much, he doesn't ban nazis. This was a while ago, and I'm not sure if this is still the case.
Some people say he's transphobic, but there was only one isolated case where one of his discord mods was transphobic and a year later he apologized for how he handled the case and seems to have made some changes in his community management for the better. He's young and capable of learning.
I will stay away of the project for the unforeseeable future, but it's not so extreme that I would suggest others to do the same.
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Okay I know theres a bunch of you [Distro]-offical blogs following me and many others with strong opinions about linux, help me out here. I'm moving my desktop from windows to linux(yeah I know sue me I was through every year of "this is the year of desktop linux", it never was) and borked my laptops void install(also dont ask im not a smart bot sometimes). Sell me on your linux flavour in the notes(pref in the replies but do ya rebloging if you wanna make more chaos discussion ) <3
PC: standard gaming/streaming/art set up, AMD cpu, nvidia GPU im replacing with AMD once finances arent hell. Maybe a little coding but I leave that stuff for work cause im too sad to code for free rn
Laptop: One of those suped up xps13s, allllllll up in that maxed i7 from that gen and no gpu to speak of. Just my mobile code machine and maybe light gaming
random tags of linux accounts I can think of, please share with all them distro fuckers
@arch-official @debian-official @ubuntu-official @retropieos-official @sinsinewave @recursive-wizard @puppylinux-unofficial @puppylinux-official @transhuman-priestess (:P)
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AwesomeWM over Xvnc is actually pretty speedy! Just gotta figure out exactly how peripherals work...
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awesomewm first impressions: simple yet highly complex....no rigid tree like in i3, but a freedom i3 doesn't have. I think I would need to put a ton of time into it (unlike i3) to get it how I want, but I wouldn't need half the additional stuff I have in i3 and it would be worth it like how vim was worth it.
I feel lost rn but if I'm stuck on X this could be a great place to move (I wonder if there's a wayland equivalent)
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2014-08-21 Gentoo Madoka Charlottes
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