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jewlwpet · 8 years ago

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In one of the DVD interviews, Ikuhara mentioned that the shadow play girls were inspired by kuroko in Japanese theatre.

That’s one of the contexts in which it can be really useful to know about the kind of Japanese theatre that most heavily influenced him.

In traditional Kabuki theatre, kuroko/kurogo (interchangeable) wear all-black to be as inconspicuous as possible to the audience members.

The plays of Tenjo Sajiki, where J. A. Seazer was first working as a composer, often included kuroko only to completely subvert their function. The kuroko in these plays would draw attention to themselves and interact with both the characters and the audience.

To give an idea of the kinds of ways kuroko were used in Tenjo Sajiki, here are the notes dramatist Shuji Terayama (who Ikuhara described as his inspirational master) left at the beginning of the script for the play Jashumon (Heretics):

In this play, the Kurogo are entities who are totally responsible for fabricating lies.

When the script was written, the playwright wore the costume of a kurogo, and even the workers engaged in printing the version used for the stage production wore the kurogo costume while creating it. Therefore, anyone participating in a production of this play from now on is advised to wear the kurogo costume.

After setting up the lights, the kurogo constructing the stage set will leap through the audience seats in order to "search for the cast members."

The kurogo's relationship to the actors (including the autience) consists of what is in the script. The lines in the script will generally deal with such things as "the common, omnipresent prostitute; the common, omnipresent pimp." Accordingly, we might say of the dialogue and script: "The dialogue, since it has the property of transforming itself into anything, of appropriating objects to itself, is therefore the object par excellence. The universal character of this property corresponds to the omnipotence of the script, which is regarded as an omnipotent essence... the script is the pander between need and object, between human life and the means of subsistence. But that which mediates my life, mediates also the existence of other men for me. It is for me the other person..." (Karl Marx, Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts, substituting "the script" for "money.")

Since the kurogo are an allegory for power, they must always behave like a military regiment. Ideally, the kurogo should have trained for over a month in regimentalized "combat drills" using wooden staffs such as those used in military training by the rebels of the student movement. They must use provocative actions against members of the audience in order to violently cut through outmoded routines and to destroy habitual expectations of everyday reality.

In this play, what we call "magic or sorcery" always implies infectious magic, rather than a magician's performance. By touching the magic with trembling hands, by seeing it with your own eyes, you will participate in a state of mutually shared experience.

#revolutionary girl utena #shadow play girls #kunihiko ikuhara #shuji terayama #tenjo sajiki #jashumon #this was a seazer musical #anyway i. love these notes #quoting karl marx #substituting 'the script' for 'money'#also the phrase 'the property of transforming itself into anything of appropriating objects to itself'#def. reminds me of the ep 12 duel song #also im totally going to headcanon that the shadow girls went through extensive combat training now

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1337wtfomgbbq · 3 years ago

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Uh, I wanna talk about this. I wanna, I wanna. May I, great😆

Let me tell you. I started watching Spn when I was about ten years old. My best friend got me into it, she was a Sam girl, so I became a Dean girl because🤷‍♂️

But then we got to episode 16 of season 1 and😳 I don't know what it was about that episode that made me realise that I was into John/JDM. I think it was the realisation that John cares so much for his boys that finally sunk in completely with this episode.

Going through the whole show, season 1 to 5, it was about the story as a whole for me, so I didn't pay that much attention to specific characters. But on my rewatches, learning more and more with each season... I fell deeply in love with John's character.

For me it was hella interesting to learn during season 4 and 5 just how much influence heaven and hell had in all of this.

Mary and John getting together? Helped by/ if not entirely orchestrated by heaven.

Mary dying? Due to a deal Mary made herself which was part of Azazel's masterplan.

John being constantly on the road, on the run and paranoid as hell? All because of Azazel and his gang pulling them around like puppets.

Not gonna say that John didn't fuck up, he did, but with all that we learned in season 4 and 5 alone I gotta say, he didn't have much of a choice in the grand scheme of things. (A choice that wouldn't end with the world in shambles I mean.)

Past season 5 it's a fucking shitshow. The writers use John's character as manpain for the boys, especially Dean, so much and disregard everything that was layed out by JDM in season 1 and 2.

Gems like, "are the bruise in bad boys really from a werewolf though? John clearly beat Dean😠" While Dean and the writer of the episode say it was a werewolf, and both Sam and Dean say John wasn't physically abusive as far back as season 1.

The show took this greatly conflicted and nuanced character and just completely butchered him. JDM said he never played John in a way that there was any malice toward his sons. He played John as a man that loved his family, that didn't knew how to show his love in the right way/ the way the fandom wants, that was greatly conflicted BUT who didn't mean to intentionally harm his boys.

The fandom interpretation and misinterpretation of John is what really gets me heated up. I honest to god do not understand how, with all the info we have from season 4 and 5 alone, people actually really think John intended for any of this to happen. The man said himself that he wants for Dean to have a real home, and for Sam to go to school, and for Mary to be alife. He wanted to stop fucking loosing people.

They had such a big chance with a character like that and what did they do? They went manpain, they went the easy to swallow route that the moronic autience can grasp more easily.

Who needs nuance and grey area, and characters that are complicted and have actuall depth when your audiance is made up of people that have daddy issues for decades.

And thinking about this made me realise something: The John is bad bad bad takes didn't really start after Swan Song. They still got JDM on for season 3 to voice John in 'Long Distance Call'. The shit takes started after season 3 and with season 4. I can blame the fucking writer's strike for that one too🙆‍♂️

(John would have a second family. Give me a break🤦‍♂️)

And yes, I am mostly ignoring everythig that happened after Swan Song. I admit I stoped watching when they killed Benny off. Doesn't mean I don't have the internet at my fingertips and that I can't get my hands on episode transcripts, and the wiki- Heck, I watched the vomit that was 'Bad Boys' only to be able to completely tear the "John beat Dean uwu" argument to shreds.

The fandom really is to blame for this. The fandom with the most daddy issues.

People saying Dean could dig his way out of his grave in season 4 cause John probably buried the boys to train them for that case???! Are yall good??! What kind of sick things did your dad do to you??!

People saying John beat Dean because he looked scared in Dark Side of the Moon' when he remembered John's reaction to Sam running away under Dean's watch?? It makes me wonder about those peoples familys because I would never interpret this as John beating Dean. Not only because Dean already said in season 1 that John didn't beat them, but also because I got yelled at for stuff my sisters did (yep even running away on my watch) and I still remember that with an underlying sense of fear. Which doesn't mean my mom is abusive, it just means that parents are only human too.

John's character is the epitome of writers fucking over and retconning an established character and the fandom being dumb as bricks and filled with daddy issues they don't deal with adequately.

Did any of you watch a movie/serie/book/piece of media when you were younger and have an opinion about it and then when you watched it again when you were older you realize that what you were watching and your idea about it was completely different? Yeah, well I do. Two things first, I am about to start ranting and two, yes this is about Supernatural. (Actually is about a lot of things but this post is about Supernatural). So here it is

When I started to watch Supernatural I was like 10, I think and I was rather naive. So when John friking Winchester has his “redemption arc” and makes the deal to save Dean I was like, ok you know good parenting right here. Then on season 5-6 I stopped watching for whatever reason and I became an irregular watcher of the show (I watched in disorder and missed some). Fastforward to two years back when my obsession returned and I started to look for more Tumblr posts about the show and I was shocked to see a lot of people hated John and because my knowledge of the show was a little bit mushy (and at this point I had had others wake up calls where this has happened) I decided to review some scenes again and watched the evidence the posters presented and I was completely shocked because what I was seeing was not what I remember. My brain couldnt compute this version it had on my head with the version the show was portraying, so I leave it be, but the seed was planted. So again fastforward to this year where I decided to rewatch Supernatural again this time in order, and again picture me shocked because the posts somehow managed to fell short. John Winchester was a terrible parent. But, and this is where it kills me a little bit, 10 year old me had made an image already about him that 21 year old me had to tear down, and its a work in progress I am not going to lie. So somehow my views had to meet in the middle somehow and I come to this conclusion.

John Winchester was a terrible parent, borderline abusive (if not all the way). Did he love his children? Yes he did, Did he turned them into soldiers? Again yes, Did he tried his best? I think in his mind he did, Was it enough? No, absolutely no. Did Dean and Sam deserved better? 100% certain

Feel free to ignore or if you want to add or put your experience or start a debate, also welcome, just respectfully please

#john winchester #john winchester defense attorney #john winchester deserves better then this dumbass fandom

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