#atp i just have a thing for water ghouls

[moonlitministry]

The Lake brainworms haven't left, more of the goober

[perfectfangirl]

ooo a part three and four! yeah, the joke is kinda that they "yassified" ghouls for the show but then again this could be said for the games, bethesda changed them up and took them in a different direction and even between fallout: new vegas and fallout 4. a theory for the show unifying the lore is great, i have been wondering if lore from the show would effect and/or involve the games more...

oh this is interesting, i think i'm inclined to agree with it too. it would explain so much because as it stands, it's a little vague otherwise why ghoulification results in going feral. i'm not sure i've seen other explanations [besides just the radiation itself] and this one is very good.

yeah, ghoulification is weird because this theory calls into question some other stuff because there's definitely lore on drugs causing ghoulification [no radiation as understood whatsoever and people becoming ghouls well before the bombs dropped] and born ghouls [people being birthed as ghouls and/or experimented on to be born as ghouls]. but i still like the theory because it's such a reasonable explanation and it's not outside the realm of the lore for it to happen, you know

yes ok that ghoul child in the fridge presents a host of lore issues on its own! not sure why he was included or made in the way he was but it turns the idea that ghouls need food, water, and air on its head, it implies multiple things like that the fridge didn't shield him, he survived without food, water, and air and that ghoulification? was what kept him from passing all this time. this also goes for another character that was buried [much like cooper] from an earlier game.

there's a few theories that kinda i guess make it make sense--- much like how how cooper was buried, there's some idea about a type of hibernation. but that still begs the question of how so without the serum. or other human and being alive things one needs for this to make sense. not sure why they decided on this. but then again, there's non feral glowing ghouls, ghouls who turn into trees, and ghouls who may never go feral, perhaps bethesda just likes being a little vague here dkgkdk

yes, when i first saw the show, i furrowed my brow over the serum because it didn't really make sense to me and with the games at first--- i had never heard or seen it and saw people say it muddles the the lore up too. i didn't even realize this! that the ghouls in the super duper mart didn't take any vials and/or didn't need any. nice catch, that's so interesting they didn't. and stuff like this is why i call into question if the serum is forreal or just a scam, because it's got to be on purpose showing mostly only cooper and roger taking the serum and/or the idea that it's not widely known for its healing and/or antiferal properties.

i have seen speculation maybe cooper was involved with some ghoul experiment vault as a theory [would make sense to me atp!]. omg no ok but him having ended up in vault 4 to be experimented on, wow. i hadn't quite thought of this [mostly because the doctors knew him and the vault experiments at least in the beginning seemed to be centered on a very specific type of creature they were making but]. this checks out so much, friend. they would "help" people there before i'm sure and then experiment on them oof

ooo the serum being pre war would be so interesting. there's also a lore discrepancy with various chems like this, some characters claim to have created them at certain points in the timeline that don't always make sense in other games, very interesting to think about with this to me. ok but i do wonder if the snake oil salesman knows what the serum is. and that's why maximus tells thaddeus he thinks he's a ghoul because the serum has some type of healing properties? i don't exactly think it's the same one but who knows, right? that instant healing makes it seem like it is so i get why one would think so. ah, the clinic having it would definitely make it seem like it's pre war, wow yeah. totally right

omg i didn't think of this either [not good at math dglld] so i didn't realize cooper may have met roger as a human. this means the next time he seems roger, his friend is already feral ☹️. see yes ok, i don't think it prevents him from going feral, i think it just staves off symptoms of something else he has going on idk? omg wouldn't that be interesting, radaway [and/or rad x] being the opposite type of solution and then there's this radiation packed serum.

i firmly think thaddeus might be turning into a super mutant but i guess just as well the show could be introducing us to drug induced ghoulification too. i noticed the vials had like, skulls and stuff on them but i couldn't guess what it could mean. i guess it's like almost saying it's poison. whoaaa--- cooper maybe not being radioactive enough? your mind. wait omg, i don't think i realized he didn't trigger the geiger. because... didn't it go off with monty? this would be crazy?? it not going off with cooper? oh it makes me want to rewatch for a third time because whattt

modifying the serum to make it more addictive would explain how i feel about it for cooper's experience with it to me and also unify the possibility it really was doing what he thought it was supposed to do, wow, your mind again! maybe the serum i guess it's a catch 22. taking it prevents ferality in ghoulification but if you stop, perhaps the withdrawals make ghoulification worse or make ferality faster idk... lmao not colander lungs 😭 i was thinking he coughs because radiation [and smoking pre war] done turned them into swiss cheese but. it is almost certain that all them bullets has effected his breathing too omg you're so onto something

ooo i just know bullet wounds [and them healing over, making his body react], ghoulification, taking that serum [then having withdrawals? from it], all that sand, having no nose, smoking pre war, and possibly having asthma or some other respiratory problem is compounding into what we see with him and his breathing and coughing. i think it was with purpose not showing him starting to go feral because ferality is the end stop for all ghouls. they at least want to stave off any true implication of that. i also think they wanted us to notice and figure out what it means, too. because there's so much vagueness and discrepancies, it's making our heads spin ldgldl

starting to see the poetry in moldaver keeping rose all this time in her feral state and the possibility of cooper and lucy forming some type of bond where lucy would theoretically do the same [though i don't particularly think cooper would end game exactly this way at least not in the show] but then i started wondering... just how long was rose ghoulified? i am curious if they'd show moldaver and/or rose flashbacks because a timeline or even just scenes would be interesting to the story. like if rose's ghoulification was fast, i wonder if moldaver was incredibly sentimental and grief stricken and this situation just happened? or was it slow. like most ferality is. and moldaver and rose got to talking. what if rose asked moldaver to keep rose around even... after... as... evidence? i mean lucy got to see all what hank did this way. with verified proof. it's obvious there was sentiment there too with moldaver but... the twist, the exposure of that what hank did was the sharpest revelation, i think. at least the most prominent in those moments... i think moldaver [implied at least to me] loving rose and then keeping her as a feral ghoul is with detailed purpose. i definitely think there's going to be more things similar to this in the show. whether it has anything to do with cooper and/or lucy, i guess the writers will show us in time but i can see parallels being drawn, maybe not as tragic or even as stark. but i do think there will be more than what we saw with roger and rose.