#at most i've browsed the wiki because i wanted to see what some of the other monsters were

[yharnamesque]

Uhhhhhhhhh talking about Sweet Home season 2 brb

I managed to convince the family to watch Sweet Home with me since season 2 came out last December and honestly? It's kind of been a dud so far

Like season 1 FUCKED HARD and there's a reason I binged the whole lot in one night the first time round. But this??? Who the fuck are any of these new people and why should I care about them. Why should I care about Chief Ji or her daughter and weird friend, or the new priest that is so clearly just a shady grifter, or ANY of the soldiers except the one that brought the OG group to the shelter in the first place. Where is Ui-myeong and the rest of the monsters he set loose? You're telling me they wouldn't have followed the soldiers out to the hideaway and tried to make an effort to break in? The crazy scientist is the only guy holding my attention at the moment

The timeskip of almost an entire year without doing even a smidge of establishing setting up in the underground has really fucked it up I think. If there'd been even like a series of quick flashbacks to show some stuff like why Chief Ji and the military leader are at odds, what proper went down between Ji's husband and Eun-yu etc it would have helped massively. But as it stands it's just kind of a nothing burger. The bloody soldiers get more screentime than the actual OG survivors who managed to make it, why is that allowed???

Where's my boy Hyun-su and his sick as fuck wing-arm, bring back my boy already

[kurczeno]

the thing I love about Dragon Age series is that each time I play, each time I research something, I learn something new.

Sometimes it's a stupid trivia, like how Wade and Harren are a couple, or how Sten and Shale were sort of flirting?

But sometimes there are major things I've overlooked, often by browsing through the "bibliography" on Dragon Age wiki.

And here I am, stunned by this.

As far as I understand this is 100% cannon in a way, that was the intention, but Gaider said it MAY be outdated.

But seriously, having confirmation that Flemeth did, in fact, care in her strange way for Morrigan (which I always firmly believed, because, as she says herself, she could have killed Morri easily, if she only wanted to) feels great. Of course she could have just said "hey, girl, I'm not actually trying to take over ur body, the thing is..." and explain everything, but hey, who does that in fantasy?

And, the Solas "trivia", which probably IS outdated, because I'm pretty sure they wanted to make him less forgivable, but the community liked him and the romance too much (which I kinda understand, though I feel like the community just ignores some parts of his story). Also as you might have picked up - I don't really like Solas, but I can't help but wonder, does the "anyone" include romanced Lavellan? I know many people see the Solavellan romance as another trick of Solas, but it's just one theory. Theory that definitely won't be confirmed in a new game, but what was the intention? (I actually like the theory, but also don't think it was ever true)

(the ss is from reddit, because I can't open the old designer notes anymore, but it's a direct quote, if I understand correctly)

anyway, im sure most of you know about this, but for those that don't - enjoy. Again wiki marks it as "legacy" information, I assume because different people are now in charge, but if I'm quite honest, I don't exactly consider the fourth game an actual Dragon Age. But even if you do, it's definitely interesting.

[snakeeyesdraws]

Overly Analyzing Fortune Street character dialogue (Mario and Luigi)

So I've spent a lot of time browsing Mario wiki pages (organized easy to read information about a current hyperfixation makes for great destressing material) and one of the pages I've been really into is the quotes from Fortune Street (2011)! I've been thinking about talking about and discussing some of the character dialogue from it, since some of them actually have some fun character tidbits, and after seeing this post from pianokantzart (please go check out their stuff!) I decided to go ahead and do so!

Today we'll be focusing on Mario and Luigi's dialogue, and dialogue that involves them! If you would like to view these quotes for yourself, you can do so here and on the character's quote pages. I'll mainly just be highlighting some of the fun ones under the cut!

Mario

"Brr! This ship gives me the creeps! Best to win fast so I don't have to hang out here too long!" (The Ghost Ship)

This is an area-specific dialogue line for the Ghost Ship, and I find the implication that Mario is a bit creeped out by ghosts/haunted places, seeing as Boos/ghosts are an enemy that have notably defeated him numerous times via the Luigi's Mansion series.

"Wow! What a fancy palace! But I still think Peach's Castle is the best…" (Castle Trodain) "Ha ha! I'm gonna do well here. Peach's Castle is like a second home to me!" (Peach's Castle)

Simple but cute!! He thinks of Peach's Castle as a second home and feels safe there!! This is extremely important to me

"Dooo-doo-doo-doo-doo-dooooo! Hey, I love this tune!" (Super Mario Bros.) "Doooo--doo-doo doo-doo-doo! That sure is a catchy tune I've got stuck in my head! Oh, sorry, is it my turn already?"

He also really loves the Super Mario Bros. theme! The theme that is associated most with him and Luigi ;w; I like to imagine he hums its to himself whenever he's working

To Yoshi: "I'll help you find your cookies, Yoshi - just give me a second to brush these cookie crumbs out of my mustache!" Yoshi to player: "Yoshi! Yoshi! (Nice job on that promotion, (player's name)! Here, have some cookies to celebrate!)" Mario's response: "Why no cookies for Mario? Can't I have just one?"

There's also a running theme of him wanting Yoshi's cookies which I think is so funny. The Legendary Hero of the Mushroom Kingdom cannot turn up a tasty snack. Some people seem to push back against the idea that Mario enjoys eating?? But I think it's such a cute characteristic of his (and the fact that he basically admits to Yoshi's face that he swiped his cookies jsadjkkdlsa)

"Not to look a gift Yoshi in the mouth, but I was hoping for more coins..."

Mostly highlighting this one for the substation of "horse" with "Yoshi" in this quote. Fun little world building tidbit of Yoshi's being the Mushroom Kingdom's horses.

After player warps: "Ever get a stomachache when you warp, (player's name)? That happens to me sometimes!"

Even though he presumably uses the warp pipes all the time? Interesting... (side note but because I'm movie brain pilled, you could potentially read into it more here for that verse 👀)

After landing on a Take-a-break square: "Heroes never take the day off! What am I supposed to do with myself - go to the beach?"

Bro that is not a good mindset let yourself take vacations!

"Thank you for your patronage! You're very generous, (player's name)... Just like me!"

There's a lot of playful lines like this from Mario, I like when we get to see his competitive side and how he has a teeny bit of an ego (he's still overall humble and kind, but he knows he's the hero of the Mushroom Kingdom)

After player buying his circus tent: "I can't believe you took over my circus, (player's name)! Didn't you like my fireball show?"

FIREBALL SHOW???? HE PUTS ON A FIREBALL SHOW????? I am desperate for any crumbs of reference to Firebrand (even though he likely used a Fire Flower for this but still)

To Luigi: "Hey Luigi! Stick with me, Bro, and we'll win this one together!" Luigi's response: "You got it, Mario! We'll show (player's name) some real Mario Bros. teamwork!"

To player: "Nice work, (player's name)! But Luigi and I aren't going to give up quite yet!" Luigi's response: "Right you are! The Mario Bros. are just getting warmed up!"

THEM........ 🥺💖 WE LOVE TO SEE THEM WORKING TOGETHER

To player: "Psst! Hey, (player's name)! Princess Peach is watching, so I'm afraid I just can't lose to you today!" Peach's response: "Mario, I heard that! But don't you worry - I'm the one who's going to win!"

Dude is SMITTEN for Peach and it shows. He wants to impress her! I do like that we get to see that Peach is also competitive and playfully rolls with it

To player: "Keep going, (player's name)! It's way too early to give up!" Peach's response: "Hey, Mario-what gives? You seem like you're more concerned about (player's name) than you are about me!"

That said, Peach clearly likes having his attention on her LMAO it reminds me of the scene in Paper Jam where M&L Peach visibly got a bit jealous of Mario getting blushy and flustered over Paper Peach

Bowser to player: "You're in luck! If you beat me, you automatically get to become one of my minions! That's the law around here!" Mario's response: "Don't listen to him, (player's name)! I've beaten him a million times, and I'm no minion!"

Almost all of Bowser's quotes that invoke a response from Mario play out like this; Bowser provokes or taunts the player and Mario immediately snaps back or defends the player. It's fun to see a version of their rivalry here, albeit one in a much more relaxed and lower stakes setting. They will get extremely competitive even when it's just a game for fun

Bowser Jr. to player: "You're just being a big show-off, (player's name)! I'm NOT impressed!" Mario's response: "Don't be jealous, Bowser Jr.! Sure, (player's name) is doing great - but you're not doing bad yourself! Try to stay focused!"

While Mario will do the same if Junior taunts the player, here we can see him being encouraging towards him. It's a cute little moment! I feel like Bowser's Fury enjoyers will like this quote lol

Peach to Mario: "Hmph! Why does (player's name) have all the luck? Mario! I order you to go out and gather me some gold coins!" Mario's response: "Sure thing, Princess Peach! But, umm..how?"

I mean it when I say dude is smitten. One order from the princess and he's ready to drop his competitive streak to go fetch some coins for her LMAO

Toad to player: "I'm impressed with your business acumen, (player's name)! I wish I was more like you… Mario's response: "You can be, Toad! Just keep up the hard work!"

Friendship between Mario and Toad can be so personal, actually... and more encouraging and sweet Mario! Never forget that this man is kind and caring before anything else

To Birdo: "Ouch! Birdo, you're charging me an arm and a mustache! That's precious gold I'm never going to see again!"

AN ARM AND A MUSTACHE HE SAYS............ this man is a DORK

To Bowser Jr.: "I'm surprised you're charging folks so much to shop here, Bowser Jr. ! Just like your daddy, you are!" To Bowser Jr.: "Bowser Jr.! You're just like your daddy. Always getting in my way!"

He'll be encouraging and overall gentler with Junior, but it doesn't change that fact that Junior still gets in his way a lot JADSKK

To Donkey Kong: "Hey, Donkey Kong! Would you mind if I paid you in bananas? Ha ha ha! Oh, I bet you get that joke all the time!" To Donkey Kong: "You sure know how to roll that die, Donkey Kong! Almost as well as you roll a barrel!"

oh my god he's so obnoxious sometimes you KNOW this man is telling dad jokes even if he's not a father. And it's a small hint towards the DK and Mario rivalry that started in the old games!

To Luigi: "Oh, Luigi! Can't you give me a special discount or something? I thought we were the bestest of buddies!"

the bestest of buddies I could cry.... it's a very sweet sentiment, even though clearly it's said in a bit of teasing tone here. I now HC that Mario calls Luigi his bestest buddy whenever he wants something from him

To Peach: "Looks like I need to start picking some flowers for your victory bouquet, Princess Peach!"

THIS. MAN. IS. SMITTEN.

To Waluigi: "I hate to fraternize with my brother's nemesis, but it looks like we're going to have to work together! Let's swap shops, Waluigi!" To Waluigi: "What!? Waluigi's about to win!? I don't think Luigi is going to be too happy about that…"

Interestingly, we get to see the Waluigi / Luigi rivalry acknowledged by someone outside of them. I do like the implication that out of principal, Mario avoids anyone who has beef with Luigi.

Luigi

”Eek! No one told me there would be gh-gh-ghosts here! I wish I'd brought my Poltergust 3000 with me.” (The Ghost Ship)

LUIGI'S MANSION REFERENCE!! An obvious one, but it makes me happy whenever it's referenced regardless

"Leaping lasagna! This place is even bigger than Peach's Castle!" (Castle Trodain) "This place is wackadoodle! It's turning my brain into spaghetti!" (Good Egg Galaxy)

HE DID IT HE SAID THE FOOD JOKE THINGS!!!!

"Looks like my bro really cleaned this place up! I hope they gave him the key to the city!" (Delfino Plaza)

this one is just, so pure and cute???? supportive Luigi confirmed??

To player: "Hey, (player's name)! I'm Luigi! Oh, you've heard of me? I'm so flattered I think I'm blushing!"

This is also so cute and a bit sad - he thinks it's amazing that someone has heard of him enough to know his name outside of just "Mario's little brother"

"This game has got my mustache all mussed up! Where's my little comb?"

Implying he carries a comb with him specifically for brushing and cleaning up his mustache! Which makes total sense, considering these other lines of dialogue from him;

"I take a quick time-out to trim my mustache, and someone buys up almost all the shops! What gives?" "Ack! One shop left? All I did was take a minute to trim my sideburns… I need to stop doing that!" "Who bought up all the shops? Guess I was too busy grooming the 'stache to pay attention to the game…"

A lot of people interpret Luigi as very neat and tidy and almost obsessively keeps himself cleaned, and this dialogue most certainly solidifies that! People pointed out in the recent film that Luigi's hair is also a lot neater than Mario's, which lends to this idea. Apparently more than once he's been so focused on grooming his mustache and hair that he's missed something important lol

"It's not so bad being in second place. As a matter of fact, it feels just right! I wonder why that is…"

Ohhhh buddy,,,,,, the eternal player 2 mood LOL

"One day I'm gonna dominate this district. Then everyone will see who's the real brains behind The Mario Bros.!"

JDSJKASDLDASKLA this is such a sibling quote. Though it is interesting considering many people consider Luigi the more strategic of the two

After player lands on a Take-a-break square: "You've been working so hard lately, (player's name). Promise me you'll take it easy on your day off!"

A lot of characters will gleefully remark that they can advance while you're on a day off when you land on a Take-a-break square, but Luigi seems to genuinely want you to take it easy and I think that's neat

To player: "Did Mario teach you to play this game, (player's name)? 'Cause you've definitely got some sweet moves, just like him!"

CUUUUUUUUUUTE Luigi thinks the world of his brother, so of course if you impress him, he will compare you to him!

After player builds a tax office: "Built yourself a tax office, (player's name)? That was a calculated move! Ha ha ha ha!"

"You got any hobbies, (player's name)? I'm into lots of things: golf, tennis, basketball, beating you at this game…"

DORK I am going to lovingly push him into a locker. This was the blueprint for "You just got a-Luigi'd!"

After building an estate agency: "I bet Princess Daisy'd be really impressed if I owned a few more shops! Help me out, estate agency!"

One of the most favourite moments for Luigi/Daisy enjoyers. Because it really is cute! He just wants to impress her!

Going bankrupt: "Bankrupt!? I'm gonna get laughed right out of the Mushroom Kingdom!"

highlighting this one just because every time I read it all I can think of is "they're beating my ass in the QRTs"

Daisy to player: "If you win, (player's name), maybe I'll invite you on an all-expenses-paid vacation to Sarasaland!" Luigi's response: "Wow, what a prize, (player's name)! I wish I was in your shoes!" Daisy to player: "Yay! You got your salary, (player's name)! I guess that means you'll drop by my shop soon, right?" Luigi's response: "Wow, Princess Daisy! You're good…"

THIS. MAN. IS. ALSO. SMITTEN. I find it so funny that both Mario and Luigi are so head over heels for their respective princess GFs.

Waluigi to player: "Hope you're comfortable in last place, (player's name), 'cause that's where you belong!" Luigi's response: "Knock it off, Waluigi! I'm pretty sure you're the one who belongs in last place!" Waluigi: "Luigi, (player's name)… Is there anyone they DON'T let into this thing?" Luigi's response: "Ha ha! You're one to talk, Waluigi! How did YOU get on the guest list?"

LUIGI, KILL!!!!

More of the Waluigi / Luigi rivalry, and it's interesting to see someone who is usually more timid and soft spoken like Luigi be so confrontational and angry addressing someone who is clearly getting on his nerves. Waluigi seems to be one of the few people who can really push his buttons like that.

Mario to player: "Nice job, (player's name)! You're a real hero - just like Mario!" Luigi's response: "I wish Mario would call me a hero sometime…"

The post I linked before delves a bit more into this, but Luigi has a couple of dialogue lines about wishing Mario would think more highly of him. It doesn't come across as out of spite or disdain; it just reads as a younger sibling wishing he could impress his big brother who he looks up to. But as we all know, Mario clearly thinks the world of Luigi and he even shows it in this game;

Mario to Luigi: "Great job, Bro! Ha ha! You're my hero!"

They care about each other and I will hear NO arguments.

[anotterthatlovestoys]

Another Goodwill browse

So, over on my main tumblr I made a few posts going through goodwill lots of ponies out of interest and seeing which ones get the most bids and such. I've been doing research into the MLP collecting community and I'm always interested to see what people consider worth spending money on.

Today I saw a LOT of vintage ponies were recently posted as I was scrolling. Interestingly all from what looks like a single goodwill location.

This is the first lot that caught my eye, "Vintage Hasbro My Little Pony MLP Lot No. 1", because it was bid up to $101, with just 10 bids. The other two comparably sized lots were at like $32. So obviously I had to look over the ponies and figure out why- now, if you're a seasoned MLP collector maybe you'll see immediately which one is the most valuable, but I wasn't 100% sure.

First off I double-checked the price of the pony with rainbow wings, Ringlets, because I knew she goes for slightly more than other ponies. However, she's only listed on ebay for about $45. Many of the listings say "RARE HTF" but there are like 22 listings for her- afaik she's not rare, she's just pretty looking so people like her.

I also checked the popcorn pony and the bright yellow tropical ponies, because sometimes ponies with funky schemes or sillier designs are slightly more pricey.

But at that point I had already noticed this pony: Satin n Lace.

It seems like magenta Satin n Lace is actually proper rare/HTF. I noticed information on the coloration is even difficult to find on MLP wikis and forums. This pony was printed in 3 variants: Lavender colored, Magenta colored, and "So soft" which means her body is magenta but white flocking fuzz is covering it, giving i the appearance of lavender. There is only one listing for her on ebay, for $75.

So, I'm guessing that Satin n Lace being good quality + having several other high quality ponies and desirable ponies made someone really want this lot, hence the $100 bid.

They have a fair few other lots, and they split up a lot of the sets sadly. Here they've separated Galaxy and Fizzy (right) from Tic Tac Toe and Bright Eyes (Left). Bright Eyes sells for more on her own (havent been able to figure out why). Fizzy and Galaxy are some of my favorite pony designs, too.

Meanwhile gingerbread, whizzer, and 2 party times got a lot of their own:

Looking at lots 2 and 3, there are a lot fo dupes- I'm not sure if they got all these ponies from the same place or not, on second thought. But a few of the same collections are repeated, like the magic message ponies and ice cream sundae ponies, and there's another rainbow curl pony in this set. Lot 2 has 6 bids but is only up to $30. I do <3 Steamer though, respect.

Now for a lot nobody has bid on: six g2 ponies! At $10 that's less than $2 per pony! But collectors don't like g2 as much. Perhaps someone will pick them up anyways.

This My Little Pony Friends lot is from a different goodwill, just posted, and its got! zigzag! Kingsley! and Spunky the camel! People don't like the other MLP friends as much as they do Cutesaurus the Dinosaur but that's okay, they are loved by me. And they are being bid on.

There's a lot just of these three Summer Wing ponies, and a separate lot that includes 2 of the third one (Little Flitter). These'll probably sell for higher and get bid up- they're not that rare or special but I imagine many people want to get this collection.

Looking at all these ponies, you can tell they did their research to figure out which ones to separate out, more or less.

For reasons again, unclear to me, Diamond Dreams is worth much more than the other Merry Go Round ponies- selling for $130+ on ebay. The Big Brothers with hats are separated out (including others that are not wigwam, the racism pony).

They're also individually selling the So Softs and ponies like Starglow (im pretty sure the Glow n show ponies are just more expensive because they glow in the dark), plus some of the ones with accessories. Honestly the So Softs they're selling are like, some of the cleanest SS I've ever seen.

I'd imagine the sets they have listed, like this, might be bid up to a slightly higher price just because if someone doesn't have that set they might be tempted knowing they can get so many at once.

In comparison, a different goodwill posted these 3- a Sparkle pony and 2 baby Sparkle ponies- and didn't list their names out like the first goodwill.

It is usually more fun to see the ones where people don't know what they have, because you get fun mixed gen lots, like this one which has mostly vintage ponies, a vintage lunchbox, a g2 McDonalds toy, a g3 McDonalds toy, and a g3 pony (or two, I cant tell)

This is actually the first time I've seen Woolly & Fleecy being sold. They were part of the Baby Ponies and Pretty Pals set, which were ponies with animal companions with matching cutie marks. They don't sell for *that* much on their own or even together but its sweet to see them in the same set!

Other highlights include: 3 twinkle-eyed ponies, a princess brush and grow pony, and 2 Glittery Sweetheart Sisters. Quite a nice and varied set.

This lot comes with a doll who I don't think is MLP related- not sure which doll- but I think a baby pony playset of some kind, a Merry-Go-Round pony, one of the playtime baby brothers (which I dont see often) and even 2 Fairy Tails, which are the bird spinoff of MLP. I think the two birds are these (photos from mylittlewiki)

...

woah theres actually this big lot that comes with a bunch of ponies and accessories. it looks to me like these are mostly early year ponies though, so idk if they will be bid highly. they're also really dirty. I dont think mlp collectors care that much for Megan and Molly but maybe someone will want them!

goodwill even has these 2 princess WITH their bushwoolies and hats which is cool.

man, lots of fun stuff on the thrifting web today. alas, i should stop, as i have looked at so many plastic horses that i cannot afford, and i really need to do other things now...

[bon-is-gone]

https://www.tumblr.com/bon-is-gone/748757237890170880/fluttershy-so-yeah-i-made-mlp-infection-au?source=share

*perks up* found this trend a while ago and I loved seeing mlp infection aus...idk why but I think mlp horrors are the best horrors! Like human horrors make me feel uncomfortable but replace the humans with colorful ponies and I wanna see it! (My random guess is, not knowing if I'm right or not, because I'm scared of it being transmitted to humans?) Anyway, now I'm curious about it!

What are the stages? How did it begin? You planning to make a bunch of art for it? Write a story via comic or written or as I've seen some do...videos? Or just draw a bunch of ponies infected? Sorry if I'm pushy or nosey...just fluttershy went from 0-100 so fast in your pics of her and looked so good...she looked so cute before infection and terrifying after! You have a great artstyle! I just had to learn if this was a one hit-thing or if it will bloom into a story or something!

AGDHAGDHSGDHAGSHGA I STILL CANT GET USED TO THE FACT THAT PEOPLE LIKE MY STUFF AND IVE BEEN HERE FOR A YEAR NOW HDGAJGXISHDJ THANKYOUTHANKYOYTAHNKYOUTHANKYOU-

Ah yes, my favorite subject

Dying ponies with rabies 😌

Imma try and answer all the questions amigo, however I'm writing this in 2 in the morning with a sh*t ton of adrenaline from the fact that you asked (I'm gonna have a heart attack oh lord) so do forgive me if I missed one-

Oh ehem-

Stages

So the sickness which I took for this au is Rabies! Which I think a lot if you might know what it is. Ofcourse, this is a more messed up type of rabbies. There's only 3 stages since the person transforms quickly(in a 1 day). 1st stage: after the pony gets bit by a subject with rabbies they start feeling weak, tired and nauseous. They also all of a sudden get scared of water 2nd stage: the ponies body starts to hurt, usually specific body parts feel the most pain (for example with fluttershy its her front hooves), which then start to get longer, stretching. 3rd stage the ponies body becomes disfigured, they become extremely aggressive and blood-thirsty, foam will start pouring out of their mouth and completely forget who they were before.

How did it begin?

Some chemist pony probably tried to find a cure for different types of sickness in the mlp world but instead made a potion for the missed up rabbies. He tested on some animals and one of them escaped. The animal got to fluttershy(because she's always with animals so she shall be the first victim) and bit her. The infection would continue on with twilight who wanted to go check up on her but instead got attacked.

You planning to make a bunch of art for it?

Oh buddy. OH BUDDY- I already nade some sketches of how twilight and Pinkie pie are before and after getting infected. I do want to draw some background ponies with those meters (you know those ones with like "hunger: 50%" or something) specifically this guy

SILVER ZOOM 😎 I found him whilst browsing the mlp wiki for background ponies and omg I LOVE HIS DESIGN AJGDHSHDHWHDHDH

Also this fella

Crystal earth gives me "I FELL INLOVE WITH AN EMO GIRL" vibes and I'm DIGGING IT

Write or make a story/comic/video? Or just draw a bunch of ponies infected?

I'm not a writer so hard pass on the story. Comic would LOVE to do that, however I'm not used to drawing ponies like, at all, So it takes me a really long time to get the look right(especially with all the different angles of the head, yikes). Now, the video? Hell f*cking yeah. I planned on making a video 100% doing it like people do on tiktok (or in my case youtube because I am not going to that wretched place, no offense to anyone who goes there) but never made it since I got sidetracked with other stuff lmao. So currently I will stick to just solely making art, but I will make a video about it no doubt. Complete story? Probably not.

Again thank you so much for asking! It makes me super happy when people ask me about my stuff or just opinions on anything. (I did not get held enough as a child God damn-) and no worries about being pushy! (You weren't honestly)

This was Bon, signing out

[knowlessman]

am a veggettibble. dint sleep much lately; AC was broke. gonna watch some bnha tho. "Make It! Do Or Die Survival Training." Also: tier lists! but text only bc I don't feel like whole-assing it with pictures and all.

new OP. prolly just for this special, I'd guess? -- is the "delinquent" archetype that they seem to be pulling with bakugo usually half as, y'know, blatantly abusive and generally hazardous as he is, or is he just a huge outlier? I don't think I've watched that many highschool anime.

"we're gonna do two teams of ten." oh, awesome, so we're gonna see some of Class B - …there really are twenty entire characters in Class A alone, huh. I keep forgetting that. excuse me for referencing something that… may have aged very dubiously, but I swear this show is taking over a large chunk of my monkeysphere. : \ -- if you flipped a coin between deku and bakugo and they were both able to see it, it would land on its edge. (…he says, as if it isn't just the UA teachers going "hey, this kid REALLY wants to kill this other kid. we'd better always group them together no matter the context until that stops being the case.")

deku I'm pretty sure your team is waiting for you while you laboriously recreate momo's logic in making the teams and recycled footage of eveyone's quirks plays over it

"that's yaoyorozu's voice!" mimic. …I mean, it could be.

inb4 bakugo starts up some more quakes

not a mimic. fair enough. 'XD wait, why isn't iida's helmet strapped on? what's the point of it if it just flies right off and lets him bonk his head?

they keep making bakugo smarter than I'd like him to be. : / he's an evil sledgehammer on legs, it doesn't feel right when he's the solutions guy.

…this special or whatnot is a little boring so far tbh, but come to think of it, at least mineta's not in it.

beats me how deku's saying his kick is more accurate for this than bakugo's blasts, but wever

"hey, you. you're finally awake. you were trying to rescue that training dummy, right?" -- hm. apparently the thing's not padded enough, or something. he whacked his head on the wall and then the helmet came off.

"if deku said he was gonna save them, it was because he knew he could!" …yeah. because deku is absolutely the kind of guy who has a solid grasp on his own limits. (well okay, he has gotten a bit better about it.)

maybe bakugo's writing is actually galaxy-brained and he's a parody of libertarianism. he sure as hell talks like it. "let me help you walk!" "no!" "you helped us by getting pichu to turn on the emergency power, let us help you!" "no! I had only selfish reasons for doing that!" … "be my cane! it's okay if you help me walk because I bullied you into it, but only then!"

TIER LIST TIME (I was gonna use tiermaker but then I realized I could literally just write it down normal-like; also I didn't feel like either making lists on it or browsing it for ones with identifiable pictures). As a reminder, I just finished s3, so, yeah. My memory of stuff up to that point (and a wiki page I'm trying not to read the spoily subtitles on) is what I'm working with.

CLASS 1-A (Plus, I guess, the smaller-than-I-thought handful of other students who we know anything about/who I recognize) TIER LIST: -- Zuko Tier: Shoto Todoroki (He's so cool and has so much going on and he manages to be OP without being a dick or annoying-to-watch about it); Kyoka Jiro (She's so cool); Tenya Iida (He wears glasses and doesn't suck and is a good bean even if he's also a square); Hitoshi Shinso (He looks like a Homestuck and also I wanna see him do cool things in spite of the inherently-villainous power he didn't ask for). -- B Tier: Izuku Midoriya (Gonna be honest, I might mostly be knocking him down a tier to adjust for him being the protagonist; he is a pretty good one as they go tho); Momo Yaoyorozu (The fanservice thing is annoying but she gets to be the most competent character in the show (maybe she's tied with Todoroki for that but he has the advantage of being OP) and that's cool); Fumikage Tokoyami ("What if Crona was a Pepsi Cola instead of a cinnamon roll?"); Tsuyu Asui (Eh, she's cool and is debatably autistic rep, and she has a snake friend); Tetsutetsu Tetsutetsu (META. POD. BROS). -- Very Mid Tier: Itsuka Kendo (She might mostly only have screentime in relation to Ditto, but eh, I like her); Ochaco Uraraka (They had her describe her parents' backstory thing in s2 and then, uh, well now she's pretty much just Sakura-if-Sakura-was-allowed-to-do-things); Eijiro Kirishima (He willingly hangs out with Bakugo and is the guy who says the faux-positive toxic masculinity bullshit, but on the other hand, he's one of the Metapod Bros and that bumps him up a bit); Ibara Shiozaki (IIRC, we very briefly saw her make an idiot out of Kaminari; pretty sure I remember being entertained by that); Inasa Yoarashi (His was an interesting subplot I guess); Mirio Togata (Fricking nudists. : | But he has a point to make and I guess that's something); Mei Hatsume (Her pranking Iida for advertisement was fucking hilarious, but her invading Deku's personal space to annoy Sakuraraka was… well, annoying). -- Who? Tier: Mezo Shoji (He has zero discernible personality but his power's sort of interesting); Mina Ashido; Mashirao Ojiro (He does karate I guess); Nagamasa Mora (Mostly in here to acknowledge his existence tbh); Koji Koda; Toru Hagakure (I swear the sub puts two U's in it; anyway, no me gusta "This character's powers only work if they aren't wearing clothes." Also how in fuckery did she beat Deku in the physical); Rikido Sato; Denki Kaminari (He sidekicks for Mineta : / If it wasn't for that, he might be up a tier); Hanta Sero (He's less interesting than Pichu and would probably hang with Mineta if he had the billing); Tamaki Amajiki (Gorillaz-lead-vocalist-looking mfer); Nejire Hado (…I vaguely remember finding her annoying. We don't know much of anything about either her or 2D yet tho); Saiko Intelli (An interesting antagonist; she gave Yaoyorozu and Jiro and company a hard fight); Neito Monoma (I remember liking his thinking, or at least resisting the show's intention for me to dislike his thinking, when he debuted, but then he just became a sad running gag); Yuga Aoyama (Literally forgot about him until I had everyone else in 1-A down; anyway I guess I don't strongly dislike him but I don't really like him either); Seiji Shishikura (Flippin libertarian creep). -- Weewoo Tier (Translation: "This person is never onscreen without me wishing this show had authority figures in it who were actually remotely responsible"): Katsuki Bakugo (Self-explanatory); Worst Character (Same).

PRO HEROES/TEACHERS TIER LIST: -- B Tier: Eraser Head (Okay maybe it's partly because he reminds me of the shopkeeper from Bleach but he's also just kinda cool); All Might (Smol Might's visual design is Zuko Tier; the character himself, eh, he's pretty good. He has flaws, but he's aware of them and wary of them); Kamui Woods (…He looks a little bit like a Bionicle). -- Very Mid Tier: Gran Torino; Thirteen; Nezu; Selkie; Manual; Cementoss; Gang Orca; Ms. Joke. -- Who? Tier: Ectoplasm; Snipe; Power Loader; Mandalay; Ragdoll; Best Jeanist; Recovery Girl; Tiger; Vlad King; Hound Dog; Mt. Lady; Fourth Kind; Uwabami (Literally did not remember her until I was posting this and had to reopen the wiki tab and check her name 'XD). -- Weewoo Tier: Present Mic; Midnight; Pixie-Bob; Endeavor (…Granted, maybe I'd have a different opinion, or less of one, if I'd been spoiled on things a bit less).

VILLAINS TIER LIST: -- B Tier: Kurogiri (Pajama Boy's handler. The dapperest living hole in reality anyone's ever seen); Dabi (Yeah I've been spoiled on a huge part of what his deal is but I guess I still won't have the full picture for awhile). -- Very Mid Tier: All for One (He is very Mojo Jojo but idk he's competent I guess? And he has some kind of body-possession-immortality thing going I think); Himiko Toga (So far, kind of annoyingly typical with the happy-slasher-blood-licker thing; maybe she gets more interesting later, who knows); Tomura Shigaraki (He's silly and I have no idea what he wants but he's also spoopy sometimes and maybe his motives will get easier to comprehend as we learn more about how One for All's users have treated him); Twice (…I think people like him? He felt very Deadpool in an annoying way at first but that backstory spiel was pretty brutal. Also sort of annoying in another way tho bc people are always looking at clones and going "But which one is the real me?" as if that means anything). -- Who? Tier: Spinner (I don't remember if we found out why he has such a stupid-looking weapon); Stain (…The story treats him and his spiel like a big deal but I still have no real idea what his deal is); Muscular (AKA Bakuswole; I do not remember whether we know anything at all about this fucker); Mr. Compress (…Idfk he looks like a Pokemon filler villain); Moonfish (Go back to Hellraiser you weirdo); Mustard (…He had the backup gun, right? Dang, the last main plotline was so effing long ago); Magne (Very vague queerphobic vibes from this one tbph).

Anyhow. On to s4 next time.

[seoness]

Writing Guide of ASOIAF/GoT

|| Part 1 of 2

Welcome to the first part of my writing guide, we'll begin with looking at writing fanfiction in the world of A Song of Ice and Fire and general tips on writing. A second part will be made regarding the character of Sandor Clegane. I did this because to write a believable Hound you need a believable world.

I am by no means an authority. Take what tips you wish and ignore the rest or ignore it all. I've spruced in some gifs to break up the text a bit. 💃

Helpful links 🚀

Interactive Map of Westeros

The most detailed timeline of the books (fan-made)

The ASOIAF wiki

Study the books

"But I want to write fanfiction set in the show?" Doesn't matter. Think of it like this: the show is a rendition of the books (at least the earlier seasons), so if you write fanfiction about the show you, in turn, write a rendition of a rendition. The further in the rendition line we go, the more we run the risk of losing accuracy in portrayal. You don't need to read the whole book series but reading the chapters where, for example, the Hound is present will give you so much more meat on your bones. There are excellent collections of excerpts floating around on the internet so no need to cough up coin (my only advice is not only reading excerpts from Sansa Stark but Arya Stark as well if your goal is to gain a better understanding of the Hound).

Smaller details/answers to questions can often be found in the ASOIAF wiki so - as I said - there is no reason to read the whole series.

Remember the times

Traveling takes time and effort. Avoid giving your character jetpacks like they had in the last seasons of GoT.

Use garment types that fit into the world. Breeches, doublets, cloaks, boots, underdress, hairnets, etc.

If you are doing battle scenes get some general knowledge of fighting. Two YouTube channels I've found informative:

Jill Bearup

Schola Gladiatoria

Hopefully, these two aren't problematic. Use caution when browsing "historical" YouTube. Some channels quickly divert into... well, someone trying to make you believe that wokeness is the greatest threat to humanity... I'll just leave it at that 🫠

Know the names of some armor pieces.

Dialogue - Class Difference

One way GRRM differentiates speech between smallfolk and nobles is if the person shortens their speech. For example:

Nobility: "I did not see them passing the bridge, my lord."

Smallfolk: "Ain't seen 'em passing the bridge, m'lord."

Servants that are expected to be in close relation with nobility mimic their way of speech.

Be careful with the usage of certain words

Some vocabulary we use isn't used in the show or the books, and using them in your text will make the story feel too modern.

Avoid personal titles of miss, mister, and sir (not to be confused with the knight title of Ser).

In describing scenes consider avoiding modern comparisons unless your OC has been transported from our world to Westeros. For example:

"Things moved in slow-motion."

"He pictured himself as King of the Seven Kingdoms."

Be careful not to overwhelm your reader with descriptions

This, admittedly, is something I struggle with as well. It doesn't matter how beautiful your prose is, how vivid you paint the world of Westeros if it becomes too heavy to take in. If you're writing longer scenes, remember that it needs to be a balance of describing and moving the story along. Having a good pace is crucial to keep people reading.

But here are some concrete things to keep in mind.

Don't overstuff your sentence with unnecessary wording. For example:

Stranger stomped angrily at the ground as Sandor quickly pulled at the reigns.

Remove unnecessary descriptions.

Stranger stomped at the ground as Sandor pulled (alt: yanked) at the reigns.

Don't be afraid of simple dialogue tags like said, replied, and answered, and to some extent, using none. There is nothing wrong with adding an alternative here and there, but dialogue and action are usually enough to indicate tone, infliction, etc.

Keep your sentence-length varied. I like to imagine writing as listening to music. You want the text to flow, and to feel alive and the length of your sentence is as valuable as the wording itself. Keep it short. Perhaps ask a question here and there to engage your reader? It keeps your text from becoming rigid and monotone, but be conscious about its use. Shorter sentences will make time move quicker. Longer sentences will make time move slower and display a more calm and calculating environment.

A quick observation on the depiction of canon fem-characters

As an example, I will use the typical OC build of having your character be a part of the Stark family. Usually, in OC x Sandor Clegane, it is a female and either true- or bastardborn. Here, other females in the family can become very unflattering in their depiction. There is nothing wrong with having your OC be at odds with the female characters, but try to keep the canonical traits of the females in mind. Especially Sansa Stark and her mother, Lady Catelyn Stark. Study them for a bit, look into what their reactions would be, and you'll have a more believable depiction and potential conflict.

For example, if your OC is bastardborn, Catelyn Stark would probably show your character the same treatment as Jon Snow. Never saying your name, never speaking to you, treating you as nothing more than air. Lady Catelyn Stark is usually written as the epitome of a true lady, keeping true to the Tully words of Family, Duty, Honor.

It goes into my next pointer of believable consequence and reaction, but this area, in particular, can make your OC feel like a "pick-me". A "not like other girls"-type.

There is nothing wrong with writing a female character that goes against the grain, but unless it's a part of character growth for her to realize that it shouldn't be done while bashing other women, try to be cautious in that area.

And if you recognize that you've done something like this, then please do not see this pointer as me "calling you out", "throwing shade", or "hating". I've made this mistake too. And writing a pick-me doesn't even have to be a mistake. A writer could certainly do something interesting with that character and their growth.

At the end of the day, writers are humans, and our biases and prejudice bleed through to the page. All anyone can do is try to be conscious of them.

Believeable Reactions

Westeros is not a kind place and it takes quick note of those that stand out. Your characters shouldn't be exempt from facing consequences for their actions/behavior, and in that place? Hells, they are more often severe than not. The older your character gets, the more the pressure will grow to conform to society. If your character is bold, the easiest way to circumvent consequences is having them be in a position of power that makes them untouchable. Think Daemon Targaryen from HOTD.

Your character shouldn't be all-knowing

There should be gods, customs, and places that are new to them. We may have watched the show and know who's good or bad, but that shouldn't be extended to an OC. Perhaps you write a jack-of-all-trades, but they shouldn't be an expert in all those areas. Basically, prevent your character from being a Mary Sue/Gary Sue.

Editing is a bitch and your best friend

There is something you can do to up your editing game if you got the coin.

Spellchecking software: I use Grammarly. It's expensive and far from perfect. It gives quick feedback, but it can sometimes miss errors and give faulty advice.

My biggest editing tip is to use text-to-speech software. While reading aloud to yourself is free, the issue is that you "know" how it's supposed to sound. The software doesn't. It reads what's there. I use Natural Readers, but that's just one of many available for personal use. It takes more time, but I find that the result is far better than using spellchecking software on its own.

Let text rest. This is completely free, but returning with fresh eyes can be a game changer.

Have Fun! 🎉

Above all else, have fun. Fanfiction is just the love of stories, so don't be too harsh on yourself. This a courtesy that should be extended to writers as well, some are really young and are brave enough to share their work early on in their writing journey.

[dangmanronpaimagines]

Hello! Could I request how the SDR2 guys would react if they found out there female S/O was secretly looking on the computer at plastic surgery prices because she has low self esteem about her body? Sorry if this is awkward, I've just been having problems with mine >__

No, you’re fine! I hope this at least cheers you up a little!! Iunderstand that in the end, most people will believe that they aren’t perfect.However, it may be important to realize that everyone comes with their flawsand mistakes. I tried to incorporate that here, because I didn’t want just arepeat of all the guys saying ‘hey gurl, ur ~*~*perfect~*~*’ and I didn’tthink it would help that much to just leave this post with that message.

And also, after a bit of thought I decided to leave out the imposterfrom this list. After browsing through the wiki page, I feel like more of hischaracter is introduced in the anime, which I haven’t watched. I kinda hatewriting people OOC, even if I already accidentally do it sometimes. Anyways,here we go!

Hajime Hinata

His heart drops when he spots his S/O looking at things likethat because he sees the saddened look on your face and how your postureradiates hopelessness. He can tell right away that you’re not looking at thewebsite out of pure curiosity, but rather out of frustration with your ownbody. He’s sad that you’re sad, and for a moment he’s so shocked that nothingcomes out of his mouth right away.

He sneaks up behind you to take a glance of what you’relooking at first, so he can find the argument he needs to convince you that youdon’t need to change at all, and as if he had an elevator for organs, he felthis heart drop again, not realizing that it came back up in the first place. Good lord, those are some hefty prices.

He practically grips his chest after seeing that and hegrunts, eliciting you to look back at him in surprise. In the middle of youtalking and asking questions – ‘Hajime, what are you doing here?’ ‘Me? I-I wasjust browsing! I’m writing an essay on plastic surgery!’ ‘Hey are you okay, youlook like you’re having a stroke…’ – he starts to wave you off and get back ontrack with his original goal. When he finally begins to speak, he has his handson your shoulders and keeps eye contact with you.

“While I am here tosupport anything you want to do, I want to say first that I think you’reamazing just the way you are. None of us are perfect and we all have our flaws,but I’m by your side already and so are many other people in your life. Youdon’t have to change anything about yourself because people like me alreadylove you as you are. Also, I cannotafford to help you get surgery, I’m sorry.”

Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu

While Hajime took the Good Boyfriend approach, Fuyuhiko is alittle rougher around the edges. Upon glancing at your laptop while you were inthe bathroom, he saw the list of surgeries that could be performed and, likethe classy man he is, let out a loud and resounding, “WHAT THE FUCK.” You quickly finished up your business and rushedout of the bathroom and to him, going “What? What? What happened?”

“This! This is what happened!” He pointed to your laptop,clearly gesturing to what you had left on. Fuyuhiko would be kind enough toremain silent while you tried to explain yourself, saying that you were justlooking because you were curious about it. However, his angry face and assertivestance quickly makes you confess the truth. You’re just… not feeling that goodabout yourself. Yeah, he ‘fuckin’ figured that was the case’.

With a sigh, he softens up a bit and glances off to the side,obviously still upset. He starts off mumbling, but soon raises his voice foryou to hear him. He’s trying to assure you in the best way that he possiblycan, mentioning that while he can cover whatever decision you wantedmoney-wise, he felt it was a waste of time. He grew attached to you because ofyour personality first and your looks last. NOT THAT HE THINKS YOU DON’T LOOKGOOD- FUCK!! DON’T CRY!!!

He’s trying his best, he really is. The honest truth he has ahard time getting across is that he lovesyou and that your looks are never an issue and it never had been.

Gundham Tanaka

No mere mortal shouldever have come into possession with the dark knowledge of shape-shifting …Or something. He’s clearly against the plastic surgery whenhe catches you looking at it one day. While his tone and language gives off theimpression of him being rather unaffected by your misery-induced perusing, he’sactually pretty worried. Why do you want to change yourself? …Did he dosomething to make you upset? He never really voices those worries, but it’shidden in the words he speaks. Surely anevil obsession with demons hasn’t compelled you from beyond? Are my words toopowerful for you to stand at your current state?! …Or something.

The moment he gives you a chance to speak, you explainyourself, not bothering to cover up anything. Like Fuyuhiko, he is silent whileyou talk, but his face is hidden slightly by his scarf and he has the sameserious look he always does so it’s hard to pick up on what emotion he isactually feeling. In the process of talking, if you start to become upset, hisFour Dark Devas of Destruction will skitter onto you. It’s almost like they cantell that you’re sad! Just like their owner, they hate seeing you like you are.

In the case that you might break down and start crying,Gundham will hesitantly place his hands on your arms. An illusion covers the true power that dwells within you! Someone withsuch untapped potential like yourself should never adhere to the constraintsthat normal mortals hold! I, myself, am understanding of the demonic appearanceI give to others… I am as captivated by your likeness as I hope you are mine. Icherish the times where we revel in each other’s company!

Kazuichi Souda

He understands it the most. While the two of you may havewanted to change your appearance under different reasons, he gets it. He changedhimself, so upon seeing you looking dejected as you scrolled through differentwebsites offering different procedures, he puts a hand to his head and clearshis throat. Despite trying to get your attention – and surprising you in theprocess, as you didn’t know he was there – he doesn’t really know what to sayfor a moment and he’s left clueless on where to begin.

Should he start out by saying he gets you? Should he say thathe doesn’t think surgery should be the first step? Maybe he should just suggesttrying easier options first? Perhaps he should start out by saying ‘you’reperfect already’ or something. With an exaggerated sigh, he says that he’s metplenty of people with crappy noses and they get by just fine. When you tiltyour head to the side in confusion he gestures quickly to the screen, hisnerves starting to get to him. “Right there! It says rhinoplasty and it’s got apicture of a nose.”

And with his speech already beginning, he takes over yourcomputer and starts scrolling through on his own. “Tummy tuck, thigh lift, skingrafts?! Eyelids, brows, ears, and botox?” He turns to you and gripsyou tight in his hands, squeezing you in desperation. “I get makeovers, butS/O, will I recognize you anymore?! I like you!!”

In a weird turn of events, you end up consoling him some, andhe ends up apologizing by suggesting dying your hair like he did if you reallyneed a breath of fresh air. Maybe you should get some kind of bright, neon…turquoise, blue color? Then your hair would complement his and vice versa! It’slike wearing matching couple stuff!

Nagito Komaeda

I think he wouldn’t even need to catch you looking on awebsite or anything to understand that you were upset about your body. He’dcatch you looking in disdain at your reflection, and he’d notice how you neverreally looked happy when picking out an outfit for the day or when you went tothe bathroom to get ready. He’d remain silent about these things he’s picked upon, waiting for you to come to him. He’d be sort of passive about it all,trying to get you to come to terms with yourself by making comments every sooften, comments that were intended to lift your spirits and, best of all, hope!But in order to obtain what he wanted for you, you had to use this crisis inyour life to become even stronger!

However, when he’d see your browsing history on the computer,it’d click that things are not goingin the direction that he’d like for you. Perhaps he should meddle more? He hadjust wanted you to see that your beauty came from inside and when you weretruly happy and content with yourself, then that beauty would radiate out andshine bright. People would then see the real you!

When he gets up and follows his resolve to find you, yourthoughts aren’t actually occupied with your insecurities at that moment. So,when he pulls you into his arms and places his hand in your hair, you’repleasantly surprised, but confused. When he begins talking, you slowly start toput the pieces together, and end up listening to his words. He repeats all ofwhat’s on his mind, and ends up complimenting you until he knows some of whathe said has gotten through to you.

Nekomaru Nidai

You both had been sitting on the couch in your living roomwhen he left to go to the bathroom. You, not knowing when he would come back, beganto get just the slightest bit bored. When you opened your phone to preoccupyyourself, it unlocked to show your browser, and to the website you had beenlooking at just a few hours prior to meeting up with Nekomaru. Just like that,you felt your own happiness float away. The seemingly endless list of thingsthat you could change about yourself shadowed over you again. Sitting there,you could feel a sense of dread that made your heart hurt. There’s just so many things that you could do to meldyourself into something different. So many things that would possibly make yourlife a little easier somehow. Things that could make you feel better aboutbeing you.

“BUT THEN YOU WOULDN’T BE YOURSELF, WOULD YOU?” Nekomaruseemed to yell out of nowhere. He startled you and made you drop your phone.His voice did make your heart jump, in a different way than he usually made itdo. When he picked up your phone and looked at it himself, he only shook hishead.

“S/O… When you change yourself, it should be FOR YOU!! Notfor others! Changing yourself to make others like you ISN’T THE WAY TO GO!” Yousort of wondered how he was able to tell that your nosedive in confidence ledto looking up plastic surgery, but his words did make you feel better.

“PLUS, NEITHER OF US CAN AFFORD ANY OF THAT. I HAVE ENOUGHFOR A HAIRCUT.”

Teruteru Hanamura

He’s flabbergasted, to be honest. You?! YOU?! YOU- ”YES, ME!” Youthink that you’re not beautiful enough? You think that you’re not meant to keepthe body you’ve been born with, giftedwith, and one that you’ve shared with him in ‘such intimate moments with’?

You resist the urge to hit him because he’s obviously not takingthe situation seriously. Even after explaining yourself to him, he’s not reallyunderstanding your point of view. Not necessarily because he doesn’t bother to,but more because he genuinely believes that you’re already incredibly gorgeous.Which… while you do appreciate his words in some ways, it doesn’t really domuch with helping your self-esteem. He was known for being an incredible pervert before you two gottogether and his tastes were wide and varied with nearly anyone fitting intohis wide radius of attraction. It made you feel worse, thinking that the onlyreason he even ended up with you was because you just happened to like himback. Your self-esteem, topped with that thought alone made you feel incrediblyfrustrated.

While it’s unfortunate that he wasn’t be able to realize itbefore, seeing you roll your eyes, cross your arms, narrow your eyebrows andpuff your cheeks in anger strikes a different chord in him. Oh, you reallybelieve that you’re body… isn’t… beautiful…

“Hey, I might be a huge pervert, but I only have eyes foryou, angel cake! Why make a bitter face when you’re sweeter than any dessert I’veever made?” You roll your eyes again. He stutters, seeing how that didn’treally help the situation. It’s only then that he really becomes desperate tosee you happy again. He mentions how he’ll make you your favorite foods, how he’llwake you up with breakfast in bed every day and how he’s come to realize thatthere’s no one else he’d rather take home to meet his mother. He sweeps you inhis arms and twirls you around, voice strained with worry. He’s really tryingto get you to see his side of things. In the end, he did make you forget aboutwhat you were browsing through and when you finally get back to your computer, youexit out of that tab.

[thebootybitchdragon]

So, first of all, I am super excited to have found somebody as excited about the clone as I am. I've been thinking about it a lot since Butch posted his video. But, I'm confused, because I thought this was ten years into the future? Wouldn't original Danny be older? Like 24 I think? Aside from that, you guys got some really good ideas about this character, and I've been laughing at some of the comments for a good few minutes.

AHHHH someone else who likes the clone!Welcome friend!!! 8) lmao, I was browsing the Phantom tag yesterday waswas so disheartened by how many people were irritable at all of thedesigns or downright kicking them to the curb. Which, isunderstandable, everyone has their tastes, and I agree that most ofthem are just…..Put Them Back embodiments, but it was still sad tosee so little interest in the Clone.

Because its such a good idea ripe withpotential, both for TUE levels of darkness and for hilariousscenarios. For once (ONCE) Butch has done okay by me.

And now to actually answer yourquestion, lmao: Yes, you are correct, the original concept was Vladfor ten years into the future, with a teenage Danny clone (I do admitthat’s super squick, like Vlad do you have no other hobbies besidesbeing fucking creepy? Go outside and play some tennis my dude.) sincethe video was a part 2 to the original Phantom concepts for the tenyear anniversary. However, at least in the ideas and concepts I’vebeen talking about and personally throwing around, I’ve gotten rid ofthe ten year span.

Because it literally doesn’t makesense.

I have contempt for the officialPhantom timeline bc its so inconsistent, but a majority of peoplehave it taking place over a two year time span, based on the twosummer episodes. (This is something I personally don’t agree with,but I have no evidence to argue it so I’m stuck like a petulantchild grumbling in the corner) and Vlad gives Valerie her gear in S1Ep10, Shades of Grey. I cannot recall if it was specifically statedin canon Vlad was using her to get Danny’s DNA, but I’m trustingthe wiki bc I really don’t want to endure re-watching Kindred Spiritsand D-Stabalized. If we assume that this had been Vlad’s goal fromthe start (something I disagree with and will touch more aboutbelow), that means that he’s been gathering Danny’s DNA for about ayear to two years if we estimate heavily with the nonsense timebetween the episodes.

In that time span, he figured out howto do the cloning, built the equipment, went through countlessprototypes to figure out all the bumps and snags, made severaldecently “functional” clones (Dani and the one he fucking murdersas a display), made the “perfect” one, and figured out exactlywhat he needed to stabilize an artificial hybrid of ghost and humanorigin.

In two years max.

It would not take him ten fuckin yearsto recreate a successful perfect clone. Even if everything wasdestroyed twice and he lost Valerie’s “assistance”. And thereason for that is because he already knows how. The hard part isdone. Once you know how to do something through so much trial anderror, you know what not to do and what you should do the nexttime around. Vlad doesn’t need to re-figure out how to make astable, perfect clone again, he can just get the equipment, the DNA,whatever and just do it.

Which he was most likely attemptingto already do in D-stabilized.

[Edit: I neglected to look on thewiki before writing this entire thing bc I was confident I know thematerial and apparently I need to get a reality check on my ego bc Iwas completely misremembering D-Stabalized. The fallowing should betaken with gratuitous lumps of salt bc I’m salty at this discoveryand also I haven’t changed anything in it.]

Why do you think hewas going after Dani? Why would he want that information of “Whyare you so stable?” if he wasn’t trying again? If he wasn’t at thepoint that he NEEDED to stabilize something? For future knowledge?Please. If Vlad was truly going to make another perfect clone, hewould not wait several months after loosing the first doing literallynothing but tormenting Danny and being an ass, nor until after he’sfigured out Dani. He was working on the Clone project for a long timeunder everyone’s noses in the first place, so who’s to say he wasn’tagain?

I’m saying Vlad wasliterally within inches of succeeding in D-stabalized. That healready had a second Clone ready to stabilize.

[Edit: I was incorrect in thinkingVlad only wanted Dani to learn why she’s stable, he wanted to use herto make another perfect clone. I was close, but not close enough. Iam still standing by my theory, however, canon can suck it. It’sstill at least feasible.]

Hartman suggestedin the video, as I’m sure you know, that the Clone (I call himDaniel bc there’s literally no way he’s not namedDaniel.) has some of Vlad in him. And this, my friend, melds so well with where canon dropped off.

Vlad wanted andattempted to stabilize the clones with Danny’s full DNA, probably soit would be 100% Danny, enough to the point he was willing to murderDani to figure her out/use her. However, after failing to get themid-morph from Danny (failure 1) and failing to get anything fromDani (failure 2), Vlad would be unlikely to try the same thingsagain. I would also like to think he’d also be unlikely to continuing to announce “OI I’M CLONEING YOU” to Danny, but it’sVlad so you never know.

He would be forcedto think of something else.

There is nothing incanon suggesting that Vlad couldn’t use his own mid-morph tostabalize a clone. He never brings it up, never explains why themid-morph is the critical link aside from the fact that it just is.There’s very little info about just how these clones are made, sothere’s no known rules to what could work and what wouldn’t. A possible reason this might not work is that it could function likebody parts or blood types, where you need a match in order for it tobe properly accepted. In that case, however, its just figuring outwhat you need to tweak in order to force an acceptance, somethingprobably made easier to do when you’re in control of the entiregenetic sequence you’re fiddling with.

This would not taketen years to do. None of it would. It would take at most, I think ayear. Maybe two, but that’s pushing it. I also have a theorythat Vlad was being so obtuse in Season 3 was to purposefullydistract Danny, but take that as you will.

This is all of myfancy way of explaining why my personal ideas are set so close to theactual canon and kicking that gross ten years to the curb.

As for my forgotten notion about why Idon’t think Vlad started cloning from Valerie’s beginning was becauseVlad was still mostly focused on Maddie up until Maternal Instincts,which occurs 6 episodes after Shades of Grey. Shades of Greyis only three episodes from Bitter Reunions as well.That’s a pretty small amount of time for someone still (reasonably)sane to go “I liked that kid, I want him to be my son. I shouldclone him.”

I’d also like to state that in the fourepisodes Vlad appears in before Kindred Spirits (not including TUE)but after Maternal Instincts, not once is his main goal Danny.Nor is it ever Maddie, either. Danny becomes a factor in MillionDollar Ghost, however his main goal is still stealing the portal. InReign Storm, he’s more inclined to use Danny than to try to make himhis son, bc again: his goal is the artifacts. In Secret Weapons, Vladisn’t even interested in Danny when he’s dropped in the middleof his lab. Tbh, I can’t for the life of me figure out what Vlad’sgoal was in the whole sibling battle thing, he really just fucked hisplans up himself in that one. In Masters of All Time, his goal wasthe cure, and again, had no problems using Danny as a pawn.

Kindred Spirits is the first place inthe entire series where we see the extent of how far he’s willing togo to get Danny to be his son. The first episode where it’s his maingoal.

I just realized how close MaoT andKinSpirits are, I wonder if Vlad triggered the Ectoacne flare workingwith the ectoplasm for the clones? Hmmm, interesting.

Anyway, the point is: Vlad kept hiscloning stuff a secret, but for how long remains a mystery. Mostlybecause there’s no point in time where it becomes obvious just howdesperate he is to have Danny. Is it when he saw an opportunity withValerie? Or is it after Danny ruins his attempts to get the Ring ofRage back from Pariah by blowing up the ectosuit so he was just like“Well fuck, now what do I do to keep myself busy?”

Getting back onto the topic of Cloneand Original Danny, there’s a second, lesser reason I’ve personallybumped the time skip, and that’s because there would be literallyZero conflict between a 14 year old and a 24 year old.

OlderDanny would kick his ass, trainingfrom Vlad be damned.

OlderDanny would also not be fazed asmuch as a younger Danny as his identity being perverted by a clone.This is because the age gap would automatically render them as beingtwo different people. OlderDanny would not see the clone as himself,at least not fully, because he’s already a mature adult. The clonecould not torment Danny with the fact that he’s him, that he’sstealing anything, that he’s threatening his notion of being andsense of self. Because OlderDanny has nothing to fear about a youngerversion of himself; he’s stronger, wiser, and different enough. Thedynamic simply doesn’t work. This is why Danny could be okay withDani: he doesn’t see himself in her. He doesn’t think of her as aclone, as the doppelganger. Because she’s a girl, she’s younger,she’s different. She isn’t him in his eyes.

With an identical copy, that’s notsomething you can avoid or ignore. Can’t deny that its not your facetwisting into that evil smirk that looks so wrong because itsfamiliar but not. Its you, but its not, and its uncomfortable,its an invasion of privacy, the ultimate identity theft. Its a personthat wears your face, sees with your eyes, speaks with your voice,thinks with your brain, and bleeds with your blood. And yet its notyou.

The closest thing Danny had to this wasDan. But Dan could be defeated. Dan could be made so that he neverexisted in the first place, completely avoided.

Daniel could not.

Daniel’s creation is out of Danny’scontrol, his existence never takes into account what Danny wants orcares, because its done at Vlad’s whims. And that’s the worstpart: the lack of control. To know that an identical yet completelywrong version of yourself exists against your will and you haveabsolutely no control over it is torture, especially for someone whoalready had cause to fear himself once before. Sure, Danny can fightDaniel, suck him up into a thermos, and maybe kick it into the ghostzone to try to be rid of him forever, but he would still existand he could always come back. Unlike Dan.  And there’snothing Danny could do about it.

What even could be do? Try todestabilize him? Ask clockwork to erase him from existence? Lock himin a thermos and bury him deep in the ice caps? Kill him?

Would Danny truly be the person to tryany of those?

In other words, the closer Daniel is tobeing like Danny, the worse effect it would have. So its all aboutmaximizing that to get the full potential of the conflict. Dannyneeds a reason to see Daniel’s creation as the ultimate line crossed,the “This has gone too far” moment. Danny needs a reasonto not only despise, but fear his clone.

There are some….problems, with this,and I’ve already used them in my argument: the fact that it another you is too different, you stop seeing it as yourself. AndDaniel is not an identical copy. He has aspects of Vlad in him.There’s a very fine line to be walked, between Daniel being similarenough that it hurts Danny while being different enough to count as adifferent character. The design alone might already doom it. But fuckit, you people can pry my inverted skunk haired baby from my colddead hands.

I realize that this is a very longresponse, and very little of it pertains to what you asked. However,I hope you enjoyed my analysis and my explanation of my personalreasoning. This was a lot of fun to talk about (I can’t remember if Igot into some of the things in other asks or if I’m recalling themfrom a thing I was gonna post but hasn’t gotten to yet. If thereare repeat things, I’m sorry! My memory is v bad.) and I thank youfor the ask!

I also realize that a majority of thisask talks about making Daniel Danny’s worst enemy, which goes againstthe “They slowly become bed buds” ask I got earlier. I receivedthat ask before I really had any ideas of what to do with Daniel, andsince I’m loving this worst enemy idea, the conflict isunderstandable. The friend idea is still on the table tho! All itneeds now is a climax, a trigger, a turning point. Something thatchanges the dynamic to start that “I hate you, but not as much as Idid, and I kinda sorta enjoy your company a little bit.” ball a’rollin.

Fuck if I know what that is tho lmao

[realitista]

If the rest of Reddit is anything like me, they're wondering why the abstract expressionists work is highly regarded, why anyone would imitate their art, and whether that's even a good thing.

You have to both consider the work in its historical context, as the culmination or perhaps breaking point of 50+ years of modernist painting, and you have to consider the actual works in and of themselves, with some mind as to what they are intended to accomplish. This doesn't mean, by the way, that you swallow some bullshit explanation made up by the artist, but more you don't go in expecting there to be some sort of bullshit explanation. The big failure people seem to have with asbtract art generally is they expect it to 'mean' something, to operate on a symbolic level; on which level of course it is almost always disappointing, because that's very rarely the point, certainly with mid-20th century work.

Returning to historical context, we need to understand abstract expressionism as an end-point of a trend in painting, that began in the late 19th and particularly the early 20th century. To simplify things a lot, art historians and art critics had begun, largely in reaction to the work of the impressionists and their followers (who had developed a new looseness with painting and were experimenting with ideas drawn from new scientific understandings of vision and colour) to develop an approach to looking at paintings which emphasised the actual nature of a painting, as a surface covered in paint. Maurice Denis is often quoted, writing in 1890:

‘Remember, that a picture, before it is a picture of a battle horse, a nude woman, or some story, is essentially a flat surface covered in colours arranged in a certain order.’

This very simple understanding of a painting paved the way for new developments in painting over the next forty plus years, which had a variety of influences, ranging from new developments in the scientific understanding of the world and new forms of scientific imaging, to new concepts in mathematics, to a reassessment of Islamic and other forms of non-Western art, to ideas taken from other forms of avant-garde art^1. With each new iteration, the work became more and more abstract, and people started turning the speculation of formalism into a more specific question, inspired both by the general modernist idea of sweeping away old traditions and rebuilding culture on a firm and rational footing appropriate for the machine age, and by the developing science of psychology. The question is; what is the essential nature or element of a painting? What is the most efficient way that we can convey the emotional impact we would like to convey in a piece; is representation just a way of obfuscating some deeper truth? After all, the emotions that people attach to real objects are heavily conditioned by their life experiences and personal psychological makeup. If you make a painting of a horse, thinking to express some sort of idea about freedom, what happens when your painting is viewed by someone who has a morbid phobia of horses?

This then is the question that abstract expressionism sets out to answer. Is there some universal language of emotion, of passion, a language without words? Can an artist take an emotional state, a feeling, straight out of their head and transform it into an arrangement of paint that will transmit that same feeling directly into the brain of anyone else who sees it? The different 'schools' of abstract expressionist painting (which is a fairly loose and critic-defined movement) were all trying to do something like this in different ways. Action painters, for example, like Kline and Pollock, were influenced by the surrealist notion of 'automatism'; they wanted to create a way of working that would somehow let their subconscious minds take control and create some sort of visual ursprache, which would communicate directly with the subconscious minds of the audiences. Others took a much more cerebral sort of approach, but with the same goals. Consider Rothko and Gottlieb's manifesto of 1942:

We favor the simple expression of the complex thought. We are for the large shape because it has the impact of the unequivocal. We wish to reassert the picture plane. We are for flat forms because they destroy illusion and reveal truth

Rothko eventually moved from suggestive 'multiforms' to a form of pure^2 abstraction called colour field based on large blocks of colour that he is most known for. It is worth noting that these colours and the way they are applied to the canvas are very carefully considered. The reason you have to see Rothko 'in the flesh' is because his work relies on certain optical properties of paint (such as building up colours over each other in multiple translucent layers) and on precise effects of colour (creating almost optical-illusion like 'flickering' effects and so on) which are quite literally impossible to reproduce in a photographic print or on a screen, not to mention expressive brushwork 'hidden' inside the colour blocks. The same is true of a lot of this sort of work, incidentally.^3

Barnett Newman represents a sort of transition between Rothko and later 'hard edge' and 'op art' style painters (and then on to minimalism and so on); still asking the same questions but trying to abstract more and more, until arguably they overshot the question entirely, though that's an argument for another time. Anyway, that place within art history is why he's valued so highly, as well as purely market effects; you'll often see inflated prices for certain American painters of this era because it ties in to a sort of mythology created by US art critics about New York taking Paris's mantle as the centre of artistic innovation following the Second World War.

Now, it is absolutely permissible to criticise this work by the way; personally, I am of the opinion that the abstract expressionists failed at the first hurdle because their notion of a universal language was a phantom, and their work is instead an expression of a particular sort of ideology of the times. But that sort of criticism is impossible if you don't try and develop some understanding of the work and its background.

1 Of particularly importance here are the beginnings of the push towards atonal music and groundbreaking works of abstract poetry such as Mallarme's [Un Coup de Dés Jamais N'Abolira Le Hasard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Un_Coup_de_D%C3%A9s_Jamais_N%27Abolira_Le_Hasard_(Mallarm%C3%A9)).

2 Rothko considered it pure at least, though arguably many of his pieces can be seen as suggesting landscapes. One of the great problems in abstract painting is how difficult it is to escape some sort of figurative reading; we are conditioned to expect paintings to be 'of' something to such a degree that we are likely to read every horizontal division as a horizon, every vertical slash as a human figure, every pale circle as a moon and so on.

3 The struggle of artists to assert themselves against the increasing powers of mechanical reproduction are a constant theme throughout 20th century art and art criticism.