#at least odysseus' grandpa has the excuse of being a demigod for raising him fucked up

[seeminglyseph]

A thing I feel about Telemachus and Antinous in Legendary and the fact that like. Telemachus objects to calling Penelope a "tramp" when Antinous' line about opening her room to have fun with her obviously feels much worse and more threatening... but I feel like Telemachus is kind of going like; "hey, the line? You crossed it a while ago."

Like, everything after tramp doesn't count because tramp was too far to begin with, and if Telemachus was strong enough to deal with the problem Antinous would no longer be here to say the gross shit afterwords because that would have been the point where Antinous died. Or at least broke his jaw and lost his ability to say nasty shit about Telemachus' mom.

Which is where the rule of "talk shit get hit" comes from, Telemachus is just untrained in combat because Laertes sucks at his job.