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can you list any of the aspects in synastry or composite charts (if possible) where it indicates who breaks up with the other first ? for example, i just read a post saying more often than not, in venus conjuct pluto aspect- the pluto breaks up with venus first.
what causes break-up/rejection in synastry and composite
i wouldn't count on that always being the case, sounds like someone is justifying their specific situation because conjuncts are atypical in nature - they often don't have predictable results. some people say that they promote positivity (for example, venus person is enamored by pluto person and pluto person is obsessed with venus person like the twisted book series that went viral on tiktok) and some say that nothing good comes from them (like whichever post the example is from in the ask)...
i'm going to work off of what i already have posted (no asteroids discussed after this post will be included or added after the fact). finally, i would like to state that NO TWO CHARTS ARE THE SAME. what i am about to list out does not mean you will for sure need these exact things (or all of these things) to be shy, nervous, and/or anxious around one another. if you don't understand my thought process, feel free to comment with questions!
8h/12h saturn
often the ending of this relationship is not pretty and involves a long-term coupling falling out of love with one another.
8h uranus
uranus person likely feels that the house person is too clingy for them and will be the first to pull away.
12h aries (1°, 13°, 25°) and/or mars
tends to indicate an ugly split.
12h capricorn (10°, 22°)
tends to indicate a harsh breakup/rejection from the house person which causes the saturn person to fall into a despair. this connection is often of a long-term variety.
12h aquarius (11°, 23°)
this might end with one of the partners in the connection asking for an open relationship, cheating on their partner, and/or ghosting the other partner.
sun negatively aspecting mars
sun person denies mars person. sun person tends to not like the mars person's energy and how passionate they are - they tend to not feel as deeply as the mars person.
mars negatively aspecting saturn
saturn person rejects mars person. usually the saturn person doesn't see the mars person as a good fit for them long-term - it tend to have to do with how clingy/possessive the mars person is. often the saturn person doesn't think that the mars person is worth fighting with, while the mars person sees the saturn person as someone worth fighting for.
mars negatively aspecting uranus
uranus person rejects mars person. the mars person often doesn't see this coming as an uranus person in this connection is quick to ghost/disappear from the mars person's life. the mars person tend to lack closure in the connection.
1h salome (562)
in oscar wilde's play salome, she is enticed by jokanaan but still wants him dead, and the play ends up with them both dead but him by salome's order.
apollo (1862) negatively aspecting kassandra (114)
kassandra person may seem interested at first but ends up just using the apollo person only to get ahead then rejects the apollo person.
medusa (149) negatively aspecting poseidon (4341 / h47)
poseidon person aggressively pursues medusa person but medusa person wants nothing to do with poseidon person
narcissus (37117) negatively aspecting echo (60)
echo might adore narcissus person, but narcissus person may either just enjoy that echo person likes them or they might decide they are too good for echo person.
rhea (577) negatively aspecting kronos (h43)
rhea person tend to be unhappy in the connection and plots against the kronos person.
zeus (h42 / 5731) negatively aspecting hera (103) and/or juno (3) negatively aspecting jupiter
typically, the hera/juno is hurt by the zeus/jupiter person because hera/juno person learns that they are being cheated on. oftentimes, this leads to a breakup. however, if there is a hera/juno prominent person in the connection, the relationship tends to continue but at the expense of the loyal (and unhappy) hera/juno person.
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bacchus, god of fertility and wine (asteroid 2063)
Bacchus, or "Liber Pater," is often identified as Dionysus. He is thought to be more restrained as Bacchus and more unrestrained as Liber ("to be set free") - who is often worshipped alongside Ceres at fertility festivals. Liber is thought to have been Ceres's son but still is sown to Jupiter's thigh in some version to keep him safe from Juno. IN MY OPINION Bacchus in a chart can represent a) restrained fun, b) where you can learn to let loose, c) your fertility, and/or d) where you are celebrated.
i encourage you to look into the aspects of bacchus along with the sign, degree, and house placement. for the more advanced astrologers, take a look at the persona chart of bacchus AND/OR add the other characters involved to see how they support or impede bacchus!
OTHER RELATED ASTEROIDS: ceres (1), juno (3), and dionysus (3671)!
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Hi , what does it mean for Juno to be in the 7th house and being conjunct to Venus in a solar return.
7h juno solar return: there is a great possibility that this is the year that you profess your loyalty (romantic or otherwise) to a person you care about deeply. this loyalty is especially prevalent in contracts as juno was an advocate for and symbol of justice. so this may be an area in which law is involved (which is validated by venus ruling the 9h and the moon (the 7h ruler) being in the 3h). this could be regarding enemies to lovers or lovers to enemies relationships. you may be going your separate ways in a situation in which you are torn between your feeling (this is heighten because the 7h is also ruled by the moon in your case) and your logic.
venus-juno solar return: positive aspects: you could find an equal partnership in which there is both admiration or adoration. this alliance is a fitting one - one that is well matched. these people may be equally flirtation and jealous (disliking when others are looking at your partner or when your partner sees someone eyeing you - "you're mine and i'm yours" vibes) with one another. you both respect one another with great care and have gratitude for each others presence. negative aspects: you could find someone has more power in this situation or someone is not pulling their weight. this is a mismatched partnership in which dissatisfaction is obvious to all. there could be bad energy between these two people - they may be jealous of each other. a feminine strength can overwhelm the situation and makes the situation imbalanced energetically (too much logic not enough feeling, too much feeling not enough logic).
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hiii, what are the indicators of meeting the person you will marry on the solar return chart?☺️✨
solar return chart observations (marital edition)
i would like to first state that NO TWO CHARTS ARE THE SAME. what i am about to list out does not mean you will for sure need these exact things (or all of these things) to find your person. if you don’t understand my thought process feel free to comment with questions!
let’s begin :).
indications of meeting your person
any couple asteroids that aspect from the 1h based on who you are trying to attract; if you are the feminine, your masculine would be in the 1h or vice versa. EXAMPLES OF MARRIED COUPLES OF MYTH:
- juno (3) - JUPITER
- kleopatra (216) - caesar (18458)
- heracles (5143) - dejanira (157) / hebe (6)
- orpheus (3361) - eurydike (75)
3h juno
5h sun
6h venus
5h/7h vertex
venus at 0°, 2°, 7°, 14°, 19°, or 26°
a partner represented asteroid (listed above) at a fame/success degree (1°, 2°, 17°, 28°, 29°)
jupiter with venus attributes (ruled by libra or taurus or at those degrees (2°, 7°, 14°, 19°, or 26°))
jupiter at a fame/success degree (1°, 2°, 17°, 28°, 29°)
sun-jupiter, venus-jupiter (typically a trine), and mars-jupiter; i can’t explain why it’s always this trio in the solar returns i am looking at - maybe its because sun is the male, jupiter is the husband, venus is passion, and mars is desire.
indications of a proposal
mercury (gemini or virgo) ruled 7h - no, i wouldn’t count degrees in this. oddly, what i have noticed is virgo 7h solar returns lead to broken off engagements? perhaps not always but oftentimes ya lol.
7h mars; mars is both ambition and assertion with passion both are generally found in proposals.
8h vertex
mercury-saturn and/or jupiter-saturn; it’s giving “til death do we part vibes” also saturn is fidelity so these two aspects are good indicators that the proposal with be that of long-term commitment.
mercury-venus
mercury-jupiter
venus-mars
venus-saturn
mars-saturn
orpheus (3361) - eurydike (75); in all the charts i looked at of married couples they have a positive aspect between these two asteroids the year they were proposed to. it’s hyper specific but makes sense when you read the myth.
indications of getting married
6h vertex
7h libra
7h venus
8h mars
moon-saturn positive aspects
mercury-mars
venus-jupiter
jupiter-saturn
pluto-asc or pluto-mc; this is a good thing, you want to see a change in your appearance/status in society.
1h chiron or chiron-asc; to me this could make you appear as someone who dotes on others (aka the husband).
juno (3) - asc
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masterlist of roman myths & legends
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abundantia (151)
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amalthea (113)
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camilla (107)
ceres (1)
cybele (65)
diana (78)
flora (8)
juno (3)
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proserpina (26)
romulus (10386)
salacia (120347)
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hii, i've read your post talking about meeting your spouse through the solar return chart and i was wondering if juno in the 5th house isn't an indicator? if isn't, what does that mean?? ty!
my solar return observation states that there would likely be an aspect between juno and jupiter if you would be meeting your future spouse! also that a those wishing to attract a feminine would likely have juno in their 1h or those wishing to attract a masculine would likely have jupiter in their 1h. so definitely look at the aspects between juno-jupiter and possibly mercury-jupiter if you are looking for a masculine or mercury-juno if you are looking for a feminine.
i personally don't believe 5h juno is a sign of meeting your future spouse unless you are looking for a feminine. even then i would say look at the relationship between jupiter and juno. then i would say that 5h house tends to indicate a short term connection, so you may be missing out on a "soulmate" due to not committing.
5h juno in a solar return more so makes me think of growing out of the fling and hook-up stage of your life and instead wanting/looking for commitment. i feel this is a good sign that you are raise your standards, learning more about what you need in a relationship, and your needs for reassurance within in a relationship.
hope this helps!
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Can you talk about Diana (78)?
diana, goddess of the hunt, wild animals, and midwifery (asteroid 78)
Diana is the daughter of Jupiter and Latona. Her twin, Apollo, rules over the opposite domains in which she does. Unlike the Greek version, told in Apollo's post, Jupiter married Latona then left her for Juno. Juno, as the jealous new wife, made sure that Latona struggled to find somewhere to have Jupiter’s children. The rest of the myth matches the Greek version. Diana is known for her solitude and virginal status. Unlike Artemis, Diana is associated with the darker parts of nature like death and the underworld. Diana is often depicted with a golden bow and arrow in the wilderness hunting animals. One of the most popular myths involving Diana comes from Metamorphoses - Actaeon the hunter who runs with hounds. Actaeon came across Diana who was in a pond bathing. Diana was flabbergasted by this encounter and of course was ashamed she had been seen naked, she splashed Actaeon with water. This splash caused him to transform into a stag. Actaeon's own dogs eventually reached him and brought him down. IN MY OPINION Diana in your chart can represent a) where your hunting perilous is strong, b) where you prefer to be alone, c) where you mature quickly, d) where you are modest, and/or e) where you destroy those who see your vulnerability.
i encourage you to look into the aspects of diana along with the sign, degree, and house placement. for the more advanced astrologers, take a look at the persona chart of diana AND/OR add the other characters involved to see how they support or impede diana!
OTHER RELATED ASTEROIDS/PLANETS: JUPITER, juno (3), apollo (1862), ovidius (2800), and latona (639)!
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zeus, god of the sky (asteroids 5731 & h42)
WE MADE IT - 50 GODS, GODDESSES, AND LEGENDS HAVE BEEN POSTED!! the celebration doesn’t end here! the next post will be up in a few hours regarding aphrodite - her sign, degree, house, and aspects in your natal chart! so definitely stay tuned for my biggest post yet to come ;)!
“when talking about such a popular god or goddess i am going to for warn paraphrasing - of course all these stories have more details and all these popular gods have stories within stories. i would love to share them all/in detail but i would need a book and a lot more time to write it. my attempt in writing these posts are to inform you on the high level story of the god’s or goddess’s life. that being said if any one of the events regaled in the post pique you interest - please let me know i don’t mind giving a more in-depth tale of any of the events mentioned.”
now for the god who has been mentioned in 10/49 of my prior posts: zeus.
Zeus is the son of the titans Cronus and Rhea. As we know, Cronus had just usurped his father, Uranus, and had received the prophecy that he would be dethroned by his child. So in turn, when each of his children was born, he devoured them. Rhea was determined to save her sixth child (Zeus) after witnessing the first five get eaten (get mothering - took five cases of cannibalism smh). Rhea brought young Zeus to her mother, Gaea, who hid him while Rhea returned to Cronus with a swaddled stone in which he promptly swallowed. Zeus had a goat named Amalthea (yes, the goat (some stories have her as a nymph) from Abundantia’s story - I am sure that there is some sort of psychological insight to gain from that lol) who he received milk from (yea... definitely some thing for Freud to examine here) while warriors were made to dance and fight one another in the cave he was hidden in to conceal Zeus's infant cries (dang talk about attachment disorders and the inspiration for the little albert experiment). When he was finally old enough, he confronted Cronus and manipulated him into drinking poison that caused his siblings to be vomited up. With his sibling, he then planned a war to take down the titans - Titanomachy. With the help of his siblings and two titans (Prometheus and Epimetheus) a strategy was born - which resulted in the Cyclopes and Hecatonchires (the hundred handed primordial) being released from the forges in Tartarus. The Greek poet Hesiod believed that the Cyclopes are the ones who forged Zeus's lightening bolt as a thanks for their freedom. With the newly freed on their side, Zeus and his campaign were able to banish the titans to Tartarus and began the new era of gods and goddesses. Hecatonchires is said to be keeping watch over the titans as his form of thanks to Zeus for freedom. Gaea was irate by the capture of her children so she had another child with Tartarus - Typhoeus - who was also easily defeated. Gaea attempted to take Zeus down with giants as well but to no avail. As we know, his marriage to Hera isn't an easy one - early on she, Poseidon, Apollo, and Athena (namely) chained Zeus in his sleep and stole his bolt. It was Thetis and Briars who helped free him and get his bolt back - when freed, he used intimidation to make every god submit to his rulership and have them swear to never challenge him again. Poseidon and Apollo were sentenced to build walls in Troy (mentioned in Apollo's post), Athena got off easy because she was Zeus's favorite, but Hera suffered the most as she was sent to the void to be suspended in the sky with anvils hanging from her ankles, forced to stare into the gaze of Chaos until she swore allegiance to Zeus again. It is thought that perhaps this occurrence was the reason why he never truly trusted Hera again (and why he had so many affairs). Some of his most famed lovers include: Io (the cow myth - that was talked about in my Juno post), Europa (gave birth to Minos, you know the king from the Minotaur myth?), Leda (Zeus turns into a swan in this one), Danae (mother of Perseus - Medusa slayer), and Semele (Dionysus's mother). IN MY OPINION Zeus in a chart represents a) where you start from snatch, b) your relationship with siblings, c) where you save your family, d) where you experience trust issues, e) where you topple those in charge, f) romantic affairs, and/or g) where you are the ultimate ruler.
i encourage you to look into the aspects of zeus along with the sign, degree, and house placement. for the more advanced astrologers, take a look at the persona chart of zeus AND/OR add the other characters involved to see how they support or impede zeus!
OTHER RELATED ASTEROIDS/PLANETS: amalthea (113), athene (881), pallas (2), URANUS, poseidon (4341), hera (103), gaea (1184), rhea (577), semele (86), io (85), apollo (1862), chaos (19521), kronos (43), hepimetheus (1810), prometheus (1809), thetis (17), europa (52), leda (38), and danae (61)!
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Hello, could you tell us about the asteroid Flora? (8) Thanks.
flora, goddess of flowers and spring (asteroid 8)
Flora has a rather unknown origin. Based on Ovid's writings a nymph named Chloris (Greek nymph associated with spring and flowers) was kissed by the west wind Zephyrus (west wind is often used to describe warm air or expansion in literature). After this kiss, Chloris turned into the Roman goddess of spring, Flora. While there aren't many myths in which she is a main character, she is thought to play a role in fertility. It is believed that when Juno discovered that Jupiter had Minerva on his own that she too wanted to have a child on her own. It was with Flora's help and her gift of a magical flower that Juno had Mars. The festival Floralia is held in her honor between April twenty-eighth and May third to celebrate the renewal of life. IN MY OPINION Flora in a chart represents a) fertility, b) where and how romances transforms you, and c) how you create miracles for others.
i encourage you to look into the aspects of flora along with the sign, degree, and house placement. for the more advanced astrologers, take a look at the persona chart of flora AND/OR add the other characters involved to see how they support or impede flora!
OTHER RELATED ASTEROIDS: chloris (410), ovidius (2800), zephyr (12923), juno (3), and MARS!
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Hello! Can you talk about Juno? Thanks!
juno, goddess of marriage and childbirth (asteroid 3)
“when talking about such a popular god/goddess/hero i am going to for warn paraphrasing - of course all these stories have more details and all these popular gods/heros have stories within stories. i would love to share them all/in detail but i would need a book and a lot more time to write it. my attempt in writing these posts are to inform you on the high level story of the god’s/goddess’s/hero’s life. that being said if any one of the events regaled in the post pique you interest - please let me know i don’t mind giving a more in-depth tale of any of the events mentioned.”
Considered a champion of women and their roles in marriage and motherhood, Juno is the wife of Jupiter and the queen of the Roman gods. Juno is the daughter of Saturn and Ops - the story of Saturn eating his children and being defeated by a rock is much the same as the Greco story of Cronus and his children. After Jupiter defeated his father Saturn and freed his siblings from Saturn's stomach, he and Juno were soon married. Their marriage was not a happy one despite having children together - Jupiter was constantly cheating and Juno typically always found out. One of the most popular affairs was Io and Jupiter; Jupiter disguised Io as a cow (which would become a symbol of the goddess). Juno sent Argus, the monster with one hundred eyes, to watch Io - hoping to catch Jupiter in the act or learn that the cow was indeed a person. When Jupiter heard what Juno had done he sent Mercury to stop Argus (Mercury put the monster first to sleep then killed it). This is said to be where peacocks come into Juno's symbolism as well - after Argus's death, she placed each of his eyes on a feather and placed them in the tail of the nearest bird. Argus's spirit remained forever in her debt which caused the creatures to constantly remain by her side. For a long time Juno tracked the cow, Io, who eventually was turned into a human again and ended up living a relatively okay life after. Juno stayed despite Jupiter’s infidelity and their power struggles. IN MY OPINION Juno can represent a) where you are fiercely loyal/show fairness/advocate for equal partnerships, b) where you are jealous and vindictive, c) where there is a double edged sword in your life - love or justice, d) married life and motherhood, and/or e) intimate relationships and the boundaries you set in them.
i encourage you to look into the aspects of juno along with the sign, degree, and house placement. for the more advanced astrologers, take a look at the persona chart of juno AND/OR add the other characters involved to see how they support or impede juno!
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Hello! What does it means having Jupiter opposite Juno at a 0° and Mercury sextil Juno also at a 0° in the natal chart? (My Mercury and Jupiter also make a 0° aspect, which is a trine) I tried to search for some answers but I found just a couple of things that didn't answered my questions exactly. Thanks in advance 💗
thank you for sharing your chart off ask! i saw that they are 0° orbs all very tight and all at 27°!
so…
juno virgo (6°, 18°): you likely are fully committed and dedicated to others around you - likely only dating one person at a time, only having one best friend, etc. you are likely to do whatever it takes for others to see the effort you are making to make them feel special in your eyes. though you may tend to hold back wanting to be very close with others but fearing how close they get to you. otherwise you are very much a caretaker for everyone and everything around you.
juno gemini (3°, 15°, 27°): you are very attuned to everything that occurs around you - like juno you know when something is afoot. it may cause you to overreact in some people’s opinion but you tend to be spot on. you likely have a bit of anxiety surrounding being in power - like fear that others are now relying too much on you or that no one relies on you enough. as for relationships, you likely give a lot and in return you ask for some space/time to yourself.
juno (5h) - mercury (3h): positive aspects: this aspect bodes well for relationships - you tend to be capable of clearly speaking and/or writing how you feel to those you have deep feelings for. you are likely a remarkably sound people when it comes to love - you aren’t “crazy” or “toxic” like juno herself. in the roman myth, mercury is sent by jupiter to destroy juno's creature - this is much less likely to happen to you - that is people who are friends with both you and your romantic partner being forced to pick sides not the whole destroying your pet thing.
juno (5h) - jupiter (11h): negative aspects: you may feel as though relationships smother your ability to be free in do as you please - you may feel out of the loop socially. you may not have a steady power dynamic between you and the masculine in your life - they may seem controlling to you. there may even be disagreements regarding money - who spends what when, how much to spend, what restrictions are in place so there is a steady future between you two, etc.
hope this helps.
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