#ask bel

[pardonmydelays]

POPPY CLANCY IS SO GOOD WTFFFFFFFF

im listening to the album rnnnnn

i listened to it once but i think im gonna listen to it more often nowww <33

HOLY FUCK ANOTHER ONE (i literally forced bel to listen to them and explained the entire tøp lore to her and she actually loved it)

CLANCY IS LITERALLY MY LIFELINE THIS YEAR‼️

please tell me your favourite songs or your favourite lyrics, i'm dying to know!!!

[just-a-honey-badger]

what's your favourite random fact that you know?

hey anon! thanks for the ask!

i'm not sure! the one i always go for is that when a pig has a cold sometimes it coughs and shoots its intestines out of its anus

[milkbreadtoast]

idk how i want to draw him yet and not ready to make a srs attempt but here's a bad kdj phone doodle lol🚶🏻

[queer-ragnelle]

can you tell us more about gingalain? he seems intriguing but i don't know much about him

I sure can! Here are the texts that center his story.

Le Bel Inconnu (French)

Gilglois (French)

Wigalois: Knight of Fortune’s Wheel by Wirnt von Grafenberg (German)

Carduino (Italian)

Sir Libeaus Desconus (Middle English)

Vidvilt (Yiddish)

His name differs depending on the text (as shown with the titles) but in Le Bel Iconnu [The Fair Unknown] his baptismal name is revealed to be Guinglain; varied spellings of that name appear in other texts so, I'll adjust my spelling accordingly.

Anyway the gist of his origin [most of the time] is that Gawain meets and falls in love with a mysterious woman but has to leave her to return to his duties at King Arthur’s court, only to discover he can no longer return to his lady/wife who lives in an impenetrable Otherworldy bubble. Years go by and their child grows up. The child eventually leaves home in search of his father. He ends up at King Arthur’s court but remains anonymous, so Arthur dubs him “The Fair Unknown,” for he’s handsome and skilled at arms. He goes on adventures with ladies, fighting giants and dragons, eventually revealing to Gawain that he's his son by the fairy/Otherworld lady.

"Guinglain’s" coat of arms in French Le Bel Iconnu is a lion...

In German Wigalois it’s a golden wheel of fortune...

In Middle English Sir Libeaus Desconus it's a griffin...

But when you google the character by name, Guingalain or Gingalain, it's this shield which pops up:

Now it's a pretty badass shield, but where does it come from? It doesn't appear in The Manuscripts and Patronage of Jacques d’Armagnac, where Gawain and his brothers first got their coats of arms. Evidentially this image comes from Le Blason des Armoiries by Jérôme de Bara, published in 1604, from which many knights received their coats of arms including Sagramore, Kay, and Bedivere.

Gawain's son appears in the supporting cast of many other texts. He's called "Gyngolyn" at the end of The Wedding of Sir Gawain and Dame Ragnelle.

And "Gangalayne" shows up again in Le Morte d’Arthur alongside his father, Gawayne, half brothers, Florence and Louel, and uncles, Agrauayne, Gaherys, Mordred, and Gareth.

Sometimes he keeps the title "The Fair Unknown" even after his relation to Gawain is known, as in the 2nd Perceval Continuation.

Some texts develop him into a fully fledged character beyond his origins, such as in the Prose Tristan, where "Giglain" fights Tristan and then reports back to a grieving Isolde that Tristan still lives.

And in the Post-Vulgate, "Guinglain" guards a bridge and challenges any who try to pass, including Galahad, Arthur the Less, and Palamedes.

He also appears in some retellings.

The best example is Gillian Bradshaw's trilogy. He's called "Gwyn" and his parents are Gwalchmai and Elidan. Their romance covers book 1, Hawk of May, then Gwyn is discovered in book 2, Kingdom of Summer, and his paternity revealed to Gwalchmai on Elidan's deathbed in book 3, In Winter's Shadow. These books are fine, but so slow, and started the trend of replacing Lancelot with Bedwyr to keep it more "historical/Welsh," meanwhile Agravain is still a character and Medraut is a bastard of incest and all the Orkney bros are actually Irish. So what was the point of that? I'd rather Lancelot had been there, particularly because Gwyn's death occurs when Bedwyr comes to rescue Gwenhwyfar from her fate and Bedwyr kills him, unarmed, to get her. So it follows the French storyline anyway. I do adore how much everyone loves Gwyn. Afterwards, Cei is acting as lawyer to work out Bedwyr's story against Medraut's, and they have this exchange:

Gwyn was everybody's baby boy. Then Cei describes the extent of Gwalchmai's grief, including having the horse he gifted Gwyn slain and burning all his belongings.

Cei likens it to the grief felt at Agravain's passing. So this is good food for Gawain and family enjoyers, but as I said, not a huge fan of Bedwyr/Lancelot hybrid as Gwyn's murderer.

In Persia Woolley's third book, Guinevere The Legend in Autumn, introduces the character. But she's so unpleasant about her characters of color...

Yeahhhhh. Long story short, Ragnelle is a fey nomad that lives among the animals she herds. She was unable to be made "civilized" and left court, evidentially sending her son "Gingalin" to be fostered by Bertilack, then given to Gawain after his Green Knight quest. There's so much unnecessary emphasis on their skin-tone coupled with the way their culture's framed it's just. Ick. I hate it.

In Howard Pyle's fourth book The Story of the Grail and the Passing of Arthur, "Gingaline" is mentioned in the line up of knights who join Agravaine and Mordred in the ambush of Launcelot and Guinevere. Ironically, he isn't mentioned as Gawaine's son, but his half brothers, Florence and Lovel, are.

Since Ragnelle and Gromer Somer Joure are both present in Pyle's series, I'm going to assume "Gingaline" is Gawaine's son. I know it, in my heart.

Lastly, in The Green Knight (2021) movie, Gawain has an unnamed son who dies in battle. He's Guinglain. To me. If I squint.

So what do I recommend reading? Of the Medieval stuff, the French story Le Bel Iconnu is the origin, so it's a great place to start. The English Sir Libeaus Desconus is short and sweet, with a really great scene of his kinsmen, Gawain, Agravaine, and Ywain, plus friends Lancelot and Perceval, arming him. Yiddish Vidvilt is also fun, it resembles the German Wigalois the most, which is my favorite.

And that's everything I got. As you can see there's a lot of Gawain's son in Medieval stories and not very many in modern ones. I love him! Let's includes him in more stories, shall we? :^)

[bagelsbasement]

smugceus

[meeks-just-wants-to-scroll]

despite my tears i will be reading.

It is posted… i also created a ref sheet for Meowcah (my interpretation), misc doodles made while writing, and art of the 4 kids. Some of the bonus doodles are by @og-doeiika

[life-winners-liveblog]

Scott, hon; I'm seeing a lot of talking and not a lot of lip-locking. Methinks you're stalling~

I mean it's not like you have to French the guy or anything, come on! Unless you're too chicken...

-Bel

Scott: I'm doing it right now!

Joel: ... Doing what? Why are you this close Scott?

[ask-felix-brc]

Do you have games on ur phon?

[hotvintagepoll]

Hi! To your French followers : at the Festival Lumière (Lyon) this October, they will do a focus on Vintage King™ Toshiro Mifune. They will screen 12 movies (including the one he directed himself) Link

cool! thank you for sharing :)

[deadwhispering]

Where da snake yo

[witheredoffherwitch]

kalki!! do you have any alysmond fic recs? i've found myself being drawn to that ship more and more recently (i cant resist a big titty milf witch, im sorry), and i know you fw it 🩷

Hey Bel, sorry for the wait - I've been off the grid studying for my exams. But, I have some recommendations for you! 🥰 🤗

first up, @saintaemond's entire Hotd collection is top-tier material, but my personal fave is tenderly open, revealed, as if cut in two

and then there's @patrocles's amazing work here. My top pick is definitely we, half dust, half deity

then, I highly suggest checking out AliaTurin collection, and my personal favorite is The Witch and The Dragon Prince

I'm no good nor evil. Simply I am. by Daisy_Dawson

burning through the bloodline (born from dark water) by congratsyouvegrownasoul

At Dusk by Adadzio

Strong Dragons by Fever_Dream

Sapphires and Emeralds by theycalled

Now the final one isn’t an Alysmond story but by the author’s own admission, their OC is very Alys-coded - and I agree! Personally, I think it is one of the best Aemond/OC fics out there on ao3:

sins of the son by @winterstellars

That's all 🫶

[just-a-honey-badger]

Hi!!

hello!!

[dontsinkinmewithyourdogteeth]

I love your class of ‘09 headcannons! What do you think the characters would be like if the game was set in 2024?

thank you ♡

- im gonna focus on jeckole for this one lol, just because im exhausted and i don't feel like coming up with other characters

- jecka always has a vape attached to her at all times, nicole begs to hit it but jecka is stingy about it

- nicole collects cds and vinyl not that she even owns a cd player or vinyl player but she likes when people come over and she can show people what she deems as the only music worth listening to

- jecka is chronic instagram notes user, so she's either posting all her music on there or just random comments

- she also spams alot on tiktok of just lipsyncs, which nicole makes fun of her for

- nicole prominently uses instagram as her social media, but secretly likes twitter even though she thinks a majority of twitter users are incels

- jecka likes to post photos of her and nicole together and has a highlight of them - which nicole hates

- im gonna reblog this post probably later after my nap

[robotredhead]

How do you change shirts with a head like that?

(ask from @flooferdoops it took a while to finish it i love to draw whole crew i love them all QwQ)

[bagelsbasement]

messed around with a new arceus OC. Since Lucy turned into a bit of a giratina lmao.

Bel, one of the many kin he's dead set on hunting down. Luckily she's quite a nimble little trickster.

Kept a lot of arceus traits so I could learn to draw em better, I am NOT drawing that fcking ring tho

[klayfruit]

i cant believe team reptile put candyman in. thr game