#as though transfem people cannot also. you know. experience the effects of misogyny
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puppiedogs · 10 months ago
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could i have directions to this society that centers women. is there an address i can look up. bc otherwise i think transmasc james somerton should probably cite a source on this one
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least sexist transandrophobia guy
#christ alive.#i was reading through tr*nsandrophobia posts yesterday and losing my Mind#the thing is. i’m pretty open-minded. i’m pretty good at like. seeing other sides to things#so i have been trying. i have been trying So hard.#to find like. an argument for it that doesn’t base itself entirely in the concept that misandry exists#and that’s. like. we all Know that’s not true. we all Know about intersectional social justice.#like i thought we figured that out a long time ago? apparently not?#and it’s so hard to keep thinking these people are behaving in good faith#when they keep Wildly distorting facts and providing no sources for any of what they’re saying#or the source they provide is a friend of theirs talking about something they kind of remember happening in 2015#like??? hello????????#fucking Bananas to me that we’ve circled back around to the point#where men are shouting at women that they don’t understand all the ways men are uniquely oppressed#you can’t just slap the word trans in front of it to make it okay#you’re literally making entire blocklists of trans women bc they’re telling you that what you are doing harms them#it’s just so.#t*androphobia truther: i am uniquely oppressed for being a man!! [lists issue that’s a direct result of misogyny]#not to mention how the entire concept that transmasc people are in a ‘unique’ position when it comes to dealing w the concept of misogyny#as though transfem people cannot also. you know. experience the effects of misogyny#in the ways that society expects them to both perform femininity and masculinity in incredibly damaging and misogynistic ways#got news for ya pal!! you’ll never believe this!!#transfem people also experience unrealistic expectations to conform to both their agab And the gender society deems appropriate for them#this isn’t unique to men!!!!!#at all!!!!!!!#god i’m mad.
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pronounpinbadge · 2 years ago
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transmisogyny isn't just misogyny and transphobia; its the oppression you get for being a trans *woman*, experiencing the combination of both because of your unique identity. i really enjoy your blog but i may have to unfollow if you continue with the whole.... "transmisogyny affects all of us" thing because thats a dangerous slope to transandrophobia truthing. think of it this way; the oppression i, as an indigenous person face for being not just a poc but an indigenous poc is unique to only me. while all poc are oppressed in their own unique ways, an asian poc or black poc cannot relate to my experiences being indigenous unless they themselves are also indigenous.
while the anti-indigenous oppression society (not just whites, but all non indigenous folk) force onto us can affect other types of poc as well, they aren't the main target and aren't nowhere near as affected by it as we are
(i dont mean this in an upset way just trying 2 educate)
this ask ill entertain because its not hate nonsense
transmisogyny is the intersection of transphobia and misogyny, two major discrimination thinktypes coming together. its not just Trans Misogyny, misogyny for trans women, even though it absolutely affects trans women and transfeminine people disproportionally more. it was coined as an intersection of these two schools of discrimination.
if youve at all been on my blog, you should know that i dont stand for transandrophobia (or any other microlables for oppression) whatsoever, so youre most likely baiting with that (and it worked), and id argue your stance of 'only women can experience transmisogyny!' is one of the things that actually pushes those transmascs to coining their own words for their 'special oppression', because they dont understand that transmisogyny isnt just transphobia for girls but the transphobia that hinges on misogyny as a societal constant
stay with me for a second, and read all of this sentence before replying. transmisogyny does effect us all, BUT it is massively more focused on trans women and transfeminine people, and those it perceives as transfem. im not unaware to the fact i have it a LOT easier than my transfem friends, BECAUSE of the misogyny i face as a visibly queer, non-passing trans person. i am assumed to be a stupid woke teenage girl going through her rebellious phase, which is a LOT safer for me than being assumed to be a teenage boy trying to prey on girls through the woke agenda. i am not unaware of this privilege, and all i do is use it to protect girls rights in my outside-of-tumblr life
Race is an immutable thing, but gender and sex is not. your analogy is good and i agree with the examples you used, but not in terms of comparing them to transmisogyny
If you want to continue this discussion absolutely feel free to dm me, or send more anon asks (but thats kind of a janky way to communicate) im totally open to continuing this if youve got things to add
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