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Fire Emblem Heroes-CYL Bonus Quotes + My Ideas for the Ones Who Don't Have Them
Choose Your Legends Winners have bonus quotes when they are on a team you enter a map with and playing with English voices (only the English voices have these quotes actually)! These are popular or funny quotes from their home games or other appearances, like Smash Bros.
CYL1
"The future is *not* written."-Lucina's victory quote in Smash Bros.
"Roy's our boy!"-Roy's crowd chant in Smash Bros.
"I'll be your peerless warrior!"-Lyn's promising words to Mark at the end of FE7 prologue
"You... like Ike?"-Ike's crowd chant in Smash Bros.
CYL2
"Take me with you!"-Veronica... I think she says this once to Bruno, but I can't find where specificailly
"Together, we will always stay."-Ephraim's A Support with Eirika
"Nothing will ever come between us."-Celica to Alm as kids during Echoes' opening movie
"I just gotta be me, y'know?"-Hector's A Support with Lyn
CYL5
"Let's go rescue my brother!"-Eirika to her troops at the end of FE8 chapter 6
"Caeda, what's wrong!?"-Marth to Caeda in FE1 chapter 1
"Please forgive me, Goddess..."-A constant sentiment of Marianne's character, and said verbatim once she slays her first enemy in FE16 chapter 2
"There was something to report, wasn't there?"-A staple of Gatekeeper's dialogue, said verbatim in FE16 chapter 5
CYL6
"I am *no* chatterbox."-Reference to Hapi's nickname for Byleth
"There is more than one truth."-What Sigurd's ghost says to Seliph, after Seliph lands the finishing blow on Arvis and waits next to the beach in FE4 chapter 10
"My... autograph?"-Tiki's C Support with Anna
"You are yourself."-Chrom's consoling words to Robin in FE13 chapter 13
CYL8
"Now... what was so damned important?"-F!Robin's B Support with Chrom
"You must be joking."-Felix during his Goddess Tower event in FE16 chapter 9
"One day... I'll be left alone."-A reference to the correct response to one of her advice box questions during FE16's war phase (this one I'm not 100% on, if anyone has corrections let me know in the replies)
"I'm going to kill you, too."-Alfonse to Letizia during Book 6, Chapter 5, Part 5: I Killed Him
However, the winners of CYL3 (2019), CYL4 (2020), and CYL7 (2023) don't have these bonus quotes. The reasons, if the directors or higher ups of the localization team forgot or they weren't too high priority for the time, are unknown. So I thought I'd take a stab at what I think they'd be for those winners.
CYL3
"I'll have their heads on a platter!"-Camilla at the of FE14 chapter 3
"I'm proud I took your hand."-Eliwood's A support with Hector
"I have finally found my purpose."-Micaiah at the end of FE10 chapter 3-F
"This isn't where things end for us!"-Alm to Celica before returning to face Duma together in Echoes Act 5
CYL4
"You think I'm special?"-Lysithea's A support with Claude
"We'll scale the walls between us!"-Claude during Verdant Wind's final cutscene
"Take your first step!"-Edelgard to the Black Eagles after escaping the Holy Tomb
"I am finally home again..."-Dimitri at the end of Azure Moon chapter 18
CYL7
"Remember where you came from."-Mikoto to Corrin at the end of FE14 Revelation chapter 24
"My only wish was to see you again."-Soren to Ike in their base conversation in FE10 Endgame 5
"A gift of revelation..."-Seiðr to the Summoner, Book 7, Chapter 5, Part 1: Goddess's Descent
"Get eaten by a bear. I don't give a damn."-M!Robin's B support with Aversa
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Celebrating TOA and the people who contribute to make our group what it is.
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Happy anniversary, TOA! Here's to many more years spent together.
Name: Ashera
Pronouns: they/them
Birthday (no year): 6th June
Where are you from? What is your time zone? England, GMT
How long is your roleplay experience? I think it must be like 10 years technically
How were you introduced to roleplaying as a whole? Naruto OC roleplay on Google+
How were you introduced to TOA? I played FE4 and the brainworms took over, so I started following the genealogy tag on tumblr. I kept seeing posts about X character being accepted to the officer's academy, so eventually I looked into what that was all about.
Do you have any pets? No.
What is your favourite time of year and why? (Season, holiday, general period) My wardrobe is minmaxed for warm weather, I hate layers and I like having my window open, and having hours and hours of daylight. So summer.
What is your IRL occupation? IT.
Some interests and things you like/enjoy? Pixel art and cross-stitch, card games, social deduction games, doctor who, long walks.
What non-Fire Emblem games do you play? Zero escape, Aitsf, puyo puyo tetris, balatro, slay the spire, ace attorney, umineko, other vns.
Favourite Pokemon type & Pokemon: Delphox. I like dragon, fire and dark types.
Tell us some fun facts and trivia about yourself! (Optional bonus challenge: if you filled this out last year, try not to repeat what you said back then!)
I like dressing fancy. I regularly go to hang out with my friends wearing floor-length gowns, my grandad's boat cloak, and heels. I have a drag queen friend who sometimes gives me clothes he doesn't want any more, and it's great.
(Apart from the wrinkle where RD is technically my brother's and not mine) I own every FE game that got an English release.
I will always spell things the British way.
How did you get into Fire Emblem? At the time feh was released I was just playing every nintendo mobile game that came out. I thought the characters were cute and I found a second-hand copy of birthright sometime later. I then had to wait until Christmas to play it cause my brother's 3DS was broken.
What Fire Emblem games have you played? Beaten: Genealogy, Blazing Blade, Sacred Stones, Radiant Dawn, Shadow Dragon, Awakening, Birthright, Conquest, Echoes, 3 Houses, 3 Hopes, Engage Played a decent amount of: FE1, Binding Blade, Path of Radiance, Warriors
First & Favourite Fire Emblem games: First: Heroes/Birthright. Favourite(s): Genealogy, Sacred Stones, Radiant Dawn
List your 5 favourite Fire Emblem characters across the series! Laylea, Dew, Forde, Larcei and Jeritza. Maybe. I have too many faves.
Who was the first character ever to make you go “ooh I like this one in particular” and why? Can be any context and reason! I liked M!Robin's art in heroes and he was the first 5* I summoned. Also I fell in love with Kaden the instant I met him cause he's cute (unfortunately my Corrin was already married)
Any Fire Emblem crushes? Like so many. For brevity I'll give the biggest one from each game: Wolf, Sonya, Arvis, Karel (FE7), Joshua/Cormag, Nasir, Reina, Jeritza, Zelkov. Shout out to Arvis for being the reason I played FE4 to begin with, and Jeritza cause the morning he became playable and bisexual I went insane.
If you’ve played (or are familiar with) the following games, who was your first S support? Who would you S support nowadays? I prefer to S support a new character each run cause I like filling the support log. The only time I've S supported a character more than once is the bisexual ones in 3H. So instead I'm giving my first and my favourite. Also at this point I've played 3H so much there's only like, 6 characters I haven't S supported. - Awakening: First: Miriel, Favourite: ??? - Fates: First: Jakob, Favourite: Kaden, Reina, Mozu - Three Houses: First: Jeritza, Favourite: Jeritza - Engage: First: Zelkov, Favourite: Zelkov
Favourite Fire Emblem class? Swordmaster
If you were a Fire Emblem character, what would be your class and stats? Would you be playable? Mage cause they have cape. I'd have great stats (delusional)
If you were a Three Houses character, what would be your affiliation? (Black Eagles, Blue Lions, Golden Deer, Church of Seiros, Those Who Slither in the Dark, unaffiliated civilian, other - for example Almyran) Black Eagles.
If you were an Officers Academy student, what would be your boons, banes and potential budding talent? Boons: Reason, Axes, Authority. Banes: Heavy Armour, Riding, Faith. Budding talent: Faith.
If you were an Engage character, which nation would you originate from? (Firene, the Kingdom of Abundance; Brodia, the Kingdom of Might; Elusia, the Kingdom of Knowledge; Solm, the Queendom of Freedom; Lythos, the holy land of the Divine Dragon; Gradlon, the desolate land of the Fell Dragon) Firene.
How do you pronounce TOA? 🤔(separate letters, to-ah, other?) Tee-Oh-Ay
Current TOA muses: Forde
Past TOA muses? Larcei, Tine, Dew, Yune, Laylea
Who was your first TOA muse? If you no longer have them, can you see yourself picking them up again? I had Larcei for over a year and honestly I'm really happy with what I did with her (even if rereading her stuff makes me cringe). So as much as I love her I have no strong reason to pick her up... apart from that swordmaster drabble I never got around to.
Do you believe you have a type of character you gravitate towards writing? (If you filled this out last year, has this changed in any way?) There's overlap between the 'old' and 'new' gens of my muses. There's a hotheaded sword girl, a mage with issues :tm: and a cute blond guy. I think I have an easier time writing characters that have a positive outlook, and say what they mean.
Do you have characters or types of characters you don’t think you can handle writing, but wish you could? Idk really. I don't think I'm that good at writing sad shit, so muses that have heavier stuff going on I'd struggle with.
What kind of scenes, situations etc do you believe you enjoy writing the most? (If you filled this out last year, has this changed in any way?) I like being a little silly. Some of my favourite posts have been where I've just thought up some nonsense, and allowed myself to write it.
Do you have any scenario in mind for your muse(s) that gets you thinking “man I hope I get to write this one day”? I want Forde to be obliterated emotionally. I do not care if these emotions are positive or negative.
Favourite TOA-related memories? SO many this group is awesome. I loved coming back after some time off and seeing what muses were still around. There's one in particular that Larcei and Forde are both close friends with and it cheeses me so much. Anyway happyland was my favourite event ever thank you mods.
Present or past tense? Present usually, but sometimes I use past don't worry about it.
Normal size text, small text, no preference? The most formatting I do is the occasional italics.
Got any potential muse delusions to share? There is *someone* who's been on my mind... (but really I have no strong muse thoughts at the moment, and I don't think I have the energy to double muse rn)
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TOA Anniversary Monday
Celebrating TOA and the people who contribute to make our group what it is.
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Happy anniversary, TOA! Here's to many more years spent together.
Name: Erica
Pronouns: she or whatever you feel like I do not care
Birthday (no year): May 3!
Where are you from? What is your time zone? Philly suburbs, toa official time zone
How long is your roleplay experience? Long. I think I was like 18 or 19 so like 15ish years I don't want to do that math right now
How were you introduced to roleplaying as a whole? The Star Trek Online forums aksjdkdbd
How were you introduced to TOA? Saw it in the tags on Tumblr and was intrigued
Do you have any pets? Winston the German shepherd mix and Pipis the pisscat
What is your favorite time of year and why? (Season, holiday, general period) Winter probably but for sure Not Summer
What is your IRL occupation? Toddler teacher, specifically 18ish-24ish month olds
Some interests and things you like/enjoy? Taking long and beautiful naps with my dog
What non-Fire Emblem games do you play? Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Fallout is good. Nothing like super regularly
Favorite Pokemon type & Pokemon: grass and ground, Diglett and Dugtrio have been my favs since gen 1 for some reason
Tell us some funfacts and trivia about yourself! (Optional bonus challenge: if you filled this out last year, try not to repeat what you said back then!)
I was on the kidney transplant list but my kidneys came back to life
I have two kids and they're both so unhinged
My dog set my kitchen on fire one time
I used to have a hatman irl but he was actually the Carrot Man and he looked like the peanut butter jelly time banana except a carrot and he was a friendly sleep paralysis demon and sometimes I miss him
How did you get into Fire Emblem? I went to GameStop and was looking at the used games and I guess Awakening caught my eye.
What Fire Emblem games have you played? Genealogy, blazing blade, scared stones, some of por, sov, awakening, fates, 3h, engage. I've at least read through all of them except the tellius games. I should get on them.
First & Favorite Fire Emblem games: first was Awakening, favorite to play is fe7
List your 5 favorite Fire Emblem characters across the series! Arvis, Travant, Finn, I really love Raphael maybe him, uhh this is hard to pick maybe Oifey. You could ask me this question tomorrow and I'll probably have a different answer
Who was the first character ever to make you go “ooh I like this one in particular” and why? Can be any context and reason! Frederick because I knew I was in love with him the moment I saw his face but Cynthia in a regular context
Any Fire Emblem crushes? 😳 You know this you know it's Arvis and Travant but I do keep thinking about Raydrick recently. Wtf is wrong with me.
If you’ve played (or are familiar with) the following games, who was your first S support? Who would you S support nowadays?
- Awakening: Frederick but I'd like to to a Priam romance someday
- Fates: I think it was Hinata but I honestly do not remember. Now idk! I don't think I've ever done the same s support twice in fates
- Three Houses: Claude but I would do a non romantic s support with Alois next time
- Engage: Saphir. Idk who I’d pick next time but it would be a different one.
Favorite Fire Emblem class? Anything armored!
If you were a Fire Emblem character, what would be your class and stats? Would you be playable? Hmm I feel like I would probably not be playable. Some sort of healer if I was playable. A cleric. I cannot imagine myself having good stats you should bench me immediately.
If you were a Three Houses character, what would be your affiliation? (Black Eagles, Blue Lions, Golden Deer, Church of Seiros, Those Who Slither in the Dark, unaffiliated civilian, other - for example Almyran) Golden Deerrrrrr!!!!
If you were an Officers Academy student, what would be your boons, banes and potential budding talent? Boon would be healing, bane would be gauntlets, budding talent idk maybe riding or flying
If you were an Engage character, which nation would you originate from? (Firene, the Kingdom of Abundance; Brodia, the Kingdom of Might; Elusia, the Kingdom of Knowledge; Solm, the Queendom of Freedom; Lythos, the holy land of the Divine Dragon; Gradlon, the desolate land of the Fell Dragon) I think Brodia is cool but I don't think they would think I am cool
How do you pronounce TOA? 🤔(separate letters, to-ah, other?) Tee oh ay and I take psychic damage every time I hear someone call it toah
Current TOA muses: Deirdre, Ethlyn, and Altena
Past TOA muses? Hilda, Elise, Serra, Charlotte, Tina, Silvia, Ninian…I feel like I'm missing someone maybe
Who was your first TOA muse? If you no longer have them, can you see yourself picking them up again? Hilda and nah I don't think I would
Do you believe you have a type of character you gravitate towards writing? (If you filled this out last year, has this changed in any way?) Tragic love interests and little sisters
Do you have characters or types of characters you don’t think you can handle writing, but wish you could? I think it would be cool to write Manuela one day but I am convinced I would be terrible at it, also any male character. For some reason I have a mental block against them and I'm not entirely sure why this is
What kind of scenes, situations etc do you believe you enjoy writing the most? (If you filled this out last year, has this changed in any way?) I like writing dialogue! Love a good reunion also.
Do you have any scenario in mind for your muse(s) that gets you thinking “man I hope I get to write this one day”? I would literally do anything to write with an Arion.
Favorite TOA-related memories? Bruh literally all of them. Don't make me choose there have been so many amazing times here.
Present or past tense? Past
Normal size text, small text, no preference? Normal because I'm lazy
Got any potential muse delusions to share? 😉 Nope!
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(He is going to be married engaged to Siggy soon) (he is also S-Supported to L!Sigurd because as much as I love him he should still have to face consequences)
I love this build! I have a +1 Arvis in my barracks but I'm far too lazy to give him a good build ;-;
You're so close to +10!
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Fe4 Remake Predictions
Alright, yet again, a nintendo direct is around the corner. And yet again, we might get the Genealogy of the Holy War remake revealed. Personally, my guess is probably not, but it’s a soft probably not.
That all being said, every time a direct arrives, I tell myself I’ll post my predictions for what the Fe4 remake will look like, but never get around to finishing it. So fuck it, Imma post my predictions today before it’s too late.
Prediction 1: The map design will remain mostly untouched. Fe Echoes had a lot of respect and reverence for the old game, and those maps arguably need much more touching up than Genealogy’s.
Prediction 2: Presentation wise, however, I think these maps will be stylized visually in some way. After all, most maps in Fe4 are the size of entire countries. Maybe the overworld units will be sprites again. Maybe the maps will do some fancy HD2D shit. Can’t say it will be either of those for sure, but some kind of visual abstraction will be employed to make the maps work.
Prediction 3: There will be slight adjustments to the trading system. Characters can still only do it with their spouses, but there’d be slight quality of life changes like getting to choose exactly how much money is given. Still gotta due pawn shop shenanigans to give weapons to non spouses, however.
Prediction 4: The love system will be fully replaced with a simple support system. Pretty much everyone is expecting this, though.
Prediction 5: Only the Castle Towns you start a chapter in will have free roaming segments where you can talk to characters, give them gifts, order food, ect. Since usually there’s a bit of a time skip between chapters and all. The castle towns you visit mid chapter will be more like the towns in echoes.
Prediction 6: There will be an avatar character. I know, I know, it’d be for the best that there wasn’t. However, the main reason an avatar wasn’t included in echoes was because of the story structure. It’d be a lot easier to introduce an avatar character in Fe4. And of course, this is the entry in the series that introduced romance. Story wise they’ll be a tactician for house Chalphy. I also think they’ll make the avatar another manakete who never actually transforms, mostly so they don’t visibly age during the second generation (So it’s less weird when they let you romance those characters as well). You will also get your own child unit/ an apprentice character if you haven’t S supported anyone yet. There will also probably be a lot of “I’m sad my S/O died” angst.
Again, this is not the timeline I desire, merely that which I believe will most likely come to fruition.
Prediction 7: There will be a small handful of new playable characters in the game. Most likely there to round out the cast balance wise, so probably a new ax unit for each generation, and maybe a new mage or wyvern knight. Maybe we’ll even get a token good dark mage.
Prediction 8: The replacement gen 2 characters will still be in the game. They’ll probably get their own unique supports as well.
Prediction 9: The child characters will probably be rebalanced a little, most so the players can sail their favorite ships without crippling the usefulness of their children.
Prediction 10: Most of the cousin incest will be removed in the english version. This will mostly come in the form of every potential second generation cousin pair having their S support be written more platonically, and if they actually are cousins, they’ll become “companions” instead of married. Think Owain and any of his potential cousins in Awakening. However, some pairs will slip through the cracks. Like a Lissa sired Morgan with a Chrom sired Inigo/ Brady in Awakening. Arvis and Deirdre’s situation will remain uncensored since it’s both plot important and not exactly a good thing.
Prediction 11: There will be references to Thracia 776, but mostly in Lief’s support. A whole lotta “You remind me of an old comrade of mine” and “Hey Nana, this reminds me of…”.
Prediction 12: The DLC will be some kind of non canon alternate timeline thing where you get to control both the first and second generations, and you get a lot of interactions between them.
Can’t wait to see how wrong I end up being.
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toa munday!!
Name: arden
Pronouns: he/she/they
Birthday (no year): Aug 9th
Where are you from? What is your time zone?: I was originally an east coast, USA girlie but I moved out to Colorado a while ago. MST timezone currently!
Roleplay experience: I started roleplaying on gaiaonline and also neopets and people used to yell at me because i was eight and did not know what i was doing. my avatar looked so cool on gaia though, for the record.
Got any pets?: Gabe, Gabe and Hancock, them again, creature
Favorite time of year: fall
Some interests and things you like: art, sewing (both cosplay and day to day wear as well as plushies), writing, playing ttrpgs, old movies, making ocs
Some funfacts & trivia about you: i am such a huge fan of ttrpgs. i really love dming but i also really love playing. i'm weak for vampires & silly little elves. also i am terrified of tornados and all of you are talking about them so casually.
What non-Fire Emblem games do you play?: Final Fantasy (XV, VII mainly), Dragon Age, Elder Scrolls, Animal Crossing
Favorite Pokemon type & Pokemon: grass type / i don't have just one, but from the new game i was partial to houndstone.
How did you get into Fire Emblem?: I saw nico play 3H and became obsessed with Hubert immediately
What Fire Emblem games have you played?: Three Houses, Awakening, Fates, Engage, Genealogy of the Holy War, Path of Radiance/Radiant Dawn
First Fire Emblem game: Three Houses!
Favorite Fire Emblem game: Honestly it depends on the day. But most days, its Awakening.
Any Fire Emblem crushes? 😳: Hubert von Vestra. Arvis Ve-- (a sniper takes me out before I can finish)
If you’ve played the following games, who was your first S support? Who would you S support nowadays? - Awakening: it was Chrom with the gay awakening patch. If I play m!Robin, it's Chrom, and f!Robin is Libra's wife most of the time. - Fates: I played f!Corrin and romanced Kaze first, m!Corrin was Niles. I really mix it up each time, though. - Three Houses: it. it was Hubert. In every life I will Find Him. - Engage: Ivy on f!Alear and Kagetsu on m!Alear
Favorite Fire Emblem class: sniper/bow knight, or warlock.
If you were a Fire Emblem character, what would be your class?: mmmm maybe wyvern rider?
If you were a Three Houses character, what would be your affiliation?: i think you can guess.
If you were an Engage character, which Emblem would you Engage with?: :oldplead: ah... miss camilla... don't mind if i do
How did you find TOA?: nico said hey look at this and i did
Current TOA muses: frederick, arvis, naesala
Who was your first TOA muse?: frederick <3
Do you think you have a type of character you gravitate towards?: wah probably, knights & men who are a little silly
What do you believe you enjoy writing the most?: morally gray dudes
Favorite TOA-related memory: I am still but a young boy in TOA's history but every day is a nice new memory... I hope for many more to come !
How do you pronounce TOA? 🤔: Toe-uh!
Got any delusions that didn’t see the light of day that you’d like to share? 😉: Actually it was a toss up between Naesala and BK for a moment there, and then of course there always was the looming threat of Hub-- (I am mercifully silenced)
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Celebrating TOA and the people who contribute to make our group what it is.
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Happy anniversary, TOA! Here's to many more years spent together.
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Name: Erica
Pronouns: she/any/whatever
Birthday (no year): May 3
Where are you from? What is your time zone? Phildelphia ish, EST
Roleplay experience: oh jeeze oh gosh uh like idk 15+years off and on?
Got any pets? Winston the German Shepherd and Pipis the ragdoll pisscat
Favorite time of year: Winter
Some interests and things you like: taking naps
Some funfacts & trivia about you: - I'm the oldest in toa cringe, idk man I'm so tired rn
What non-Fire Emblem games do you play? nothing like consistently right now? I like rpgs and games with a good story.
Favorite Pokemon type & Pokemon: Ground and grass, Diglett and Dugtrio I've been their number one fan since the games came out
How did you get into Fire Emblem? I was at a Gamestop determined to buy a new game and Awakening looked interesting. 3H reignited my love of the series though.
What Fire Emblem games have you played? Uhh Radiant Dawn is the only one I don't have any experience with but I read the Jugdral games, the Archanea games, and Binding Blade.
First Fire Emblem game: Awakening
Favorite Fire Emblem game: Genealogy if it counts even if I never played it. Three Houses or Blazing Blade if we're talking about ones I like to actually play.
Any Fire Emblem crushes? Arvis baby call me back we could be clap in clap love clap
If you’ve played the following games, who was your first S support? - Awakening: Frederick I took one look at that freak and knew I was in love- Fates: I think it was Hinata but I honestly don't really remember- Three Houses: Claude and then I immediately felt bad because I stole him from Hilda - Engage: Saphir she's old like me
Favorite Fire Emblem class: I like an armored knight honestly idk why
If you were a Fire Emblem character, what would be your class? Some kind of cleric/healer
If you were a Three Houses character, what would be your affiliation? Golden Deer
If you were an Engage character, which Emblem would you Engage with? Sigurd probably it's baby girl time
How did you find TOA? I saw it in the tags when I was looking for Hilda content and went hmm. Kept watching until their Hilda fell through and then jumped on that.
Current TOA muses: Deirdre, Ethlyn, and Altena
Who was your first TOA muse? If you don’t have them anymore, could you see yourself picking them up again? Hilda (the good one) but her time is done
Have you had any other TOA muses? Hilda, Charlotte, Elise, Serra, Silvia, Tina, Ninian, is that it?
Do you think you have a type of character you gravitate towards? Tragic wives/moms, little sisters, pink. Love how Ethlyn combines all three of these.
What do you believe you enjoy writing the most? I love familial relationships whether they are biological or found. I also really love cross game relationships whetehr they are platonic or romantic. It's fun having the relationship develop from ground zero rather than with an extra boost from them knowing each other in canon. Plus it's just neat to get to explore. I also like a little (a lot) of drama and angst. Messy relationships are very fun.
Favorite TOA-related memory: It's gotta be all the friendships we've found along the way. The writing and stuff is great and wonderful but the community and sense of belonging is something I will always remember and cherish.
Got any delusions that didn’t see the light of day in TOA that you’d like to share? Louise is a matter of when not if honestly.
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1, 9, & 11 for the salty asks?
thanks for asking! gonna go ahead and answer these for fire emblem since thats the fandom im most active in as a fandom
1. What OTPs in your fandom(s) do you just not get?
oh man, a lot. a lot of heterosexual ones, i feel like? alm/celica. merric/elice feels so abrupt and meaningless in the way that basically any of the non-main-protagonist NES game relationships do, even when they try to retcon it in in the remakes, because it just...forget chemistry, they don't have any interactions! like what!!
felix/sylvain. like, i dunno, i just don't really feel any emotions looking at these two. they are fine? they're fine. i don't...that's it. lmao
also, honestly to an extent i don't really get tharja/robin in awakening. like, i love both characters on their own, but they don't really gel for me in the same way they seem to for a whole lotta other people lol.
ALSO! not fire emblem and i am not in a "fandom" as such for full metal alchemist but shipping roy mustang and riza hawkeye Does Not Gel For Me. i get why people do it but like...i do not understand it.
9. Most disliked character(s)? Why?
i bear grudges especially towards Arvis FE4 (because the narrative treats him as noble and well-intentioned, and basically just tells us that he means good without doing literally anything to back it up) and Gray Echoes: Shadows of Valentia (because i am so fucking sick to death of "guy bothers uninterested woman until she relents into having a relationship with him" AND they always end up in a fucking relationship in their end cards even if you didn't unlock any of their supports).
also shoutouts to olwen FE5, who rules hard and who i love don't get me wrong, but whose supporting cast (fred and reinhardt) are like...way less cool than her. i especially do not vibe with reinhardt, considering he chooses not to defect despite presumably knowing about the child hunts (!), meaning the intended arc of "tragically you cant recruit this cool dude" falls flat because...is he really that cool if he can't be arsed to stop perpetuating tangible horrific evils in fiction? then again, he is working with ishtar, who is described as saving as many kids as possible--but also that only gets mentioned in her other game, which means it's not brought up directly with reinhardt--look the point is i'm not interested in him he's a boring man and i don't know why he has sixteen different alts in Heroes when olwen has one. olwen is the cooler fucking sibling get a grip lmao
i also hate virion (any man who is introduced chasing after a vocally uninterested woman is not worth my while, doubly so if he does not have any sort of tangible character arc), berkut (GOD. AWFUL man. somehow manages to fridge his own wife??? you should be able to recruit rinea in echoes i am forever peeved about this. he's an excellent villain all the way up until you can't recruit rinea about it), and perne (because the narrative apparently believes that kidnapping and torturing a young girl into doing your bidding via frightening her with insects is, like, not a big deal you guys don't sweat it).
11. Is there an unpopular character you like that the fandom doesn’t? Why?
i love Kris from new mystery of the emblem, i think she rules, she's a goofus. big fan. also all the new mystery gang tbh. i would say i don't understand why people hate her so much, except i do, and it's the same old same old "everything was better in the old days, when we didn't have support conversations or characters with more than 1 line of dialogue" that you get in every fandom, but i've certainly noticed in fire emblem.
i love edelgard, but i wouldn't say the fandom doesn't: i would say some of the fandom doesn't, but it's a split it would seem. i fucking adore monica but so does everybody else with taste. i really like wendy (inasmuch as anyone in the binding blade has a character), admittedly half due to her class as armored knight and half out of spite at how her wiki page says she's non-viable, but there's a solid half in there to appreciate her on her own merits also. this is again a mixed opinion and not a totally unpopular one, but i love ingrid, i think her story arc is fascinating. i LOVE jill i think her story arc is super compelling, she's one of my favorites. look, i don't know, who's unpopular? if you get me a list of "unpopular" fire emblem characters i will probably pick out every woman on there and be like "aw cmon she's cool/underutilized/worthy of appreciation". except camilla.
thanks so much for asking! this was very fun.
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Since you say Chrobin is inferred what else is inferred and canon in FE?
Disclaimer this is just my option from the stance of an aromantic asexual who only follows the text and what they do with the characters and what I see pushed in side material. But here's what I see and with just the lords
FE1/3/11/12: Marth and Caeda canon, there's no arguing it, all the side material confirms it it's blatant canon
FE 2/Echoes: Alm and Celica canon same reasoning as Marth and Caeda
FE 4: Sigurd and Deirdre canon, Deirdre and Arvis is canon too but it's never pushed not like the former that's the FE4 ship they want you to remember. Seliph as far as I'm aware doesn't have a pairing, his siblingship with Julia is his important relationship and it's platonic
FE 5: I know nothing about this game except what I see in FEH. I think Leif and Nana canon, could be wrong, would be willing to hear someone out who knows that game, if not canon they are definitely inferred
FE 6: Roy and Lilina implied I think like his dad's game Roy can pick anyone to be his wife, IS seems to favor Lilina the most in side material
FE 7: Eliwood and Ninian highly implied this is the one I'd compare Chrobin to the most, Eliwood can marry Ninian but he doesn't have to he can marry anyone else if he wishes, in side material though and FEH they're pushed a lot to the point when I looked it up I was surprised it wasn't canon
FE 8: I...don't think anything is canon or even inferred here. Open season
FE 9: I'm going to get so much hate for this but here we go. It's heavily implied I don't think it's been stated, Soren has feelings for Ike. And I 100% believe that. However...Ike comes off as very ace to me so I don't think Ike can ever love Soren as much as Soren loves him. That said they could easy have a queerplatonic relationship I don't see the two ever separating it just wouldn't be a traditional relationship
FE 10: Micaiah Sothe canon I personally wish it wasn't and don't like it but you can't argue it's not canon, and the side material continues to agree with the game, just ignore it (I sure do)
FE 13: As I said Chrom Sumia was originally implied, but they dropped it now Chrom Robin is heavily implied Lucina has no one, protecting her dad is her character.
FE 14: Gender split. In the game one could argue for MCorrin Azura was slightly implied due to her having a different support per route. For FCorrin due to popularity Leo got a drama Cd and a manga which slightly implied Leo Corrin. That time has passed, Corrin has no implied pairings anymore Corrin just cares about family, everything is platonic
FEH: Yes this is a mainstream game. Almost everyone loves the summoner (because it's you) Fjorm outright is in love with them, Alfonse and Veronica could be implied due to Lif and Tharsir's relationship. Everything is canon here and nothing is canon here at the same time.
FE16: So this one is interesting because of how hard it splits between MByleth and FByleth
Edelgard is heavily implied not just with Byleth but MByleth in particular. In the game the portrait she's drawing is of MByleth if you look close enough, MByleth is also usually for advertisement purposes put with the Black Eagles, Edelgard's house. Because her crush on Byleth is such a part of her character they didn't write it out for FByleth yes, but it was made in intention to MByleth (aka the male players)
Dimitri is implied with FByleth. Her material has her with Blue Lions the same way MByleth's material has him with Black Eagles. It's not as blatant as Edelgard, nothing would be but it's still there (to cater to female players)
Claude: Ha you think they'd care about the character who is a copy paste route? They don't. Poor Claude, nothing is implied or canon with him
FE17: No one but due to Alfred's circumstances changing if you S support him, I might lean to Alear Alfred implied it will all depend on what the side material tells us
#anon asks#please don't hate me for the FE9 thing#I've had some rude aphobic people before please be nice
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When will people get into their head that their head canon is not canon ? Nel and Rafal are romance option as you said, there is no reason to think IS would let them marry Alear in those conditions.
Exactly.
Like come on this is the franchise who had a literal game about how siblings marriage bring back the devil !
Heck, considering that Kaga actually cheered Arvis and that modern FE prefers Sigurd by a long shot, this is even truer !
IS draws the line at blood sibling in case their platonic S support with Veyle wasn't big enough of a hint.
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It's probably because I come from Awakening but id' like to get what is this "kinky incest" that people believe IS had ? It seems more to me that the dev don't care about their S support options for the Avatar and uses trope from dating sims
that would be fes historical usage of the trope in previous games. you have overt examples like fe4s arvis getting it on and having kids with his half sibling [though that is suppose to be a tragic occurrence mind you], or the more problematically comedic angle of things with the 'gay incest bandits' that first appeared with maggie and rose in fe6 and have been referenced numerous times since [like in fe13 with vincent and victor coincidentally!].
but ya also have the more common low key examples like how fe7s raven and priscillas relation has heavy romantic coding going on with it despite the two being siblings, and well it was more of a translation flub from what i understand fe8s eirika and ephraim have a paired ending that raised a number of eyebrows towards the 'are they fucking?' question. fe10s sothe and michaiah describe their relation as familial [like brother and sister] despite not being related, but they also have an explicitly romantically coded ending that they default to in game. and those are all just off the top of my head, im sure @gascon-en-exil could give ya a more complete rundown of it.
point being, people like to joke about it not just because of coincidence of tropes but because it keeps appearing across the series in some form or another.
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A mon avis le coup de Nel et Rafal était surement un clin d'oeil aux fait que FE adore nous faire le coup de la fausse inceste qui n'est pas de l'inceste a cause de tel explication farfelues et canon. Donc oui c'est encore des S support trolls. Probablement pour nous préparer pour Genealogy of the Holy incest parce que la, y'aura pas de multivers pour annuler l'inceste dans le canon et pour épargner ceux qui n'aiment pas ca et veulent marier leur avatar avec oneechan. Mais bon, il n'y aura pas d'avatar non plus.
" Techniquement c'est pas de l'inceste, mais la simple possibilité que ce ship se réalise joue sur ce genre de fantasmes ?" comme pour Corrin x Royal et Byleth/Rhea. Je voyais déja des tonne de commentaires sur youtube expliqué que il n'y avaut techniquement pas d'inceste parce que ceci et cela. Enfin, ils devraient se reposer, le jeu est clair la dessus. Après Fates où les ships les plus populaires étaient Corrin avec sa famille adoptive et ses step siblings, la fe fandom a vu pire.
Le plus drôle dans tout ça c'est que Veyle n'est même pas romantique parce qu'ils étaient a cours d'excuse. Mais le coup du multivers, alors là! Ils s'appellent pas Intelligent system pour rien !
Je groupe le tout parce que je suis une feignasse -
J'espère que dans le remake Jugdral, s'il voit le jour, il n'y aura pas d'avatar parce que ça ne peut pas le faire sans casser le truc, le messie c'est Seliph, et la falchion (le vrai messie) c'est Julia.
Mettre un nouvel avatar "en fait je suis god reborn et un major naga en plus si jamais julia meure je peux sauver le jeu à moi tout seul" ça me ferait sérieusement reconsidérer un futur achat...
L'inceste Arvis/Deedee de Jugdral c'est le truc qui amène Julius, l'antichrist - présenté comme tel - et puis Julia, ben tout le monde s'en fout. C'est pas censé être dépeint comme quelque chose de bien, je ne sais pas si le glitch était fait exprès, mais Julia a un love growth négatif envers Seliph - la 2nde gen étant censée corriger les boulettes de la première, Seliph ne peut pas finir avec sa soeur.
Après il y a les incestes entre cousins - mais si je me souviens bien, au Japon ce n'est pas considéré comme de l'inceste? Je sais que ce qui est considéré comme "incestueux" a changé avec le temps, mais mis à part les délurés de Twitter qui sont, ben, délurés et sortent du "oui mais dimitri et claude ils sont parents éloignés au 576 256 452ème degré du coup le pairing est incestueux", je ne pense pas que ça fera bcp jaser, sauf les personnes un peu trop ethnocentrées mais au bout d'un moment, ces personnes font chier.
Et au final, on en revient aux shipwars, et franchement, c'est d'un ennui, oui on peut ne pas aimer des ships pour des raisons X ou Y, mais mis à part le Ares/Nanna de FE4 assez, euh, borderline sur ce sujet, aucun FE n'est en mode "je vais me marier avec mon frère/cousin parce qu'on est de la même famille oh oh oh c'est rigolo" pour surfer sur ce fantasme.
Les devs surfent peut-être dessus, mais les persos ne sont pas écrits que pour ça, si Larcei admire Shanan, ce n'est pas parce que c'est son cousin, mais parce qu'il est super fort et badass à l'épée.
J'imagine le gars chargé de screener les retours des jeux sur Twitter annoncer aux développeurs "hey les gars vous vous souvenez du petit pairing Alear et Veyle qu'on a voulu faire? Et Jean-Marc avait misé 40 euros sur la fanbase américaine être en pls parce que S support pour eux ça veut dire "marriage" et ils hurlent à l'inceste? Ben Jean-Marc a gagné!"
"Vas y on essaie de refaire la même, mais cette fois-ci avec une demi-soeur d'un univers alternatif, mais dans cet univers alternatif elle est même pas la demi-soeur, elle est la fille du mec qui n'est pas le père du héros dans cet univers alternatif - je mise 50 balles sur une controverse Twitter-"
"Bordel t'as encore gagné!"
"Les gars on fait un remake de Jugdral?"
#anon#replies#french post#sometimes people just want to wank for the sake of wanking#i mean#wait#sérieux tu fais un nid de poule et les utilisateurs de twitter en font la fosse des mariannes#depuis 2014 je crois je fais des shitposts sur un avatar dans jugdral#je crois que j'avais appelé ça genealogy of the holy self insert#mais si c'est les controverses qui font vendre et les brosses à reluire le joystick#on ne pourra pas y échapper
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By "winking of subtext between siblings" what do you mean ? The mistranslation of Eirika and Ephraim support makin creepy the simple act of patting the head of your young sister ? The whole Tellius deal with Micahiah and Sothe being canon despite having had a family bond ? The fact that Morgan and Kanna can marry all of their potential siblings ? The whole Rhea deal becaus people refuse to learn that organ donation and blood perfusion doesn't make you related ? The people worrying about Robin/Tiki and Tiki/Exalt because they all share Naga's blood ? The whole adopted sibling thing and the whole ex step- siblings deal in Fates making it unsure whether or not S support Kiragi, Shiro, Siegbert or Forrest is aunt/nephew or not especially as Corrin can be their mom while i Awakening Morgan could still marry Inigo, Brady and Owain even with Lucina as a mom and that Morgan could marry Lucina with one of those 3 as their dad ? Or the Veyle S support that is platonic in both jap and eng version ? or the twins whose support are romantic but are not Alear's siblings because they are born from different Sombron ?
Now i think that when it goes sibling territory, Instys makes sure that it's is not incest even if they use far fetched explanation but when it's cousin no problem because Japan and many societies are fine with it, hence Azurrin.
I feel like I have played enough FE games to say without the shadow of a doubt that even incest between siblings is seen and portrayed as negative * see Jugdral* and the others "incest" pairings are not actual one but just seems to play with the limits. In the twins cases, it depends entirely if you consider that Sombron and another Sombron are one and the same, when the game try to make it through your skulls that Sombron and another Sombron are not the same person. And the twins keeps it consistent, never making the mistake to call Sombron "father". There is only Veyle that made this mistake but Nel corrected it right away.
I feel the need to point out that it's all that and then some. The early Western fanbase was cracking jokes about Priscilla and Raven and the Renais twins back in the mid-2000s, and with Judgral the issue for potential remakes isn't so much Arvis/Deidre, which is clearly nonconsensual and a part of the villain's plot, but rather Lachesis/Eldigan, which gets eulogized in Gen 2 as a star-crossed love and which kicked off a lengthy tradition of teenage girls fawning over their brothers.
Cousin marriages are also potentially abundant in Gen 2, and those are another difficult matter as not everyone, not even in the West, considers them incestuous. To use some lazy wordplay - incest is relative.
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I see you sometimes post about FE4... so, how about FE4? If not that, what about FE3H?
Hi! Despite my posting about it sometimes, I actually haven't played FE4 yet. I want to, but I need to figure out how to get it running on my fossil of a computer first. That said, I'll try my best to answer what I can from what I know about the story.
blorbo (favorite character, character I think about the most): From what little I know about them, I'm really drawn to Deirdre and Julia for some reason.
scrunkly (my “baby”, character that gives me cuteness aggression, character that is So Shaped): Smol Shannan and Oifey, maybe? Or perhaps Charlot, since he gives off scrunkly energy when I look at him.
scrimblo bimblo (underrated/underappreciated fave): Even though he's gotten a Brave alt recently, I think Seliph is vastly underappreciated by the devs (what with him not appearing as a DLC emblem in Engage, despite being one of FE4's two leads).
glup shitto (obscure fave, character that can appear in the background for 0.2 seconds and I won’t shut up about it for a week): Edain and Lana? Mostly because I'm pretty sure Edain's the only gen. 1 lady to not be in Heroes, and Lana's probably the closest thing Seliph has to a love interest (provided you played matchmaker with her mom), so you think she'd get more attention.
poor little meow meow (“problematic”/unpopular/controversial/otherwise pathetic fave): From what little I know of him, Eldigan kind of comes across as one of these, or Julius.
horse plinko (character I would torment for fun, for whatever reason): Maybe Arvis? Idk, he just has that vibe where you want to play plinko with him and a horse.
eeby deeby (character I would send to superhell): All the people who are pro-child hunt. Special mention to Hilda for what she did to Tailtiu or Ethnia, and Manfroy who played matchmaker with a pair of half-siblings.
Since I was a bit unsure of these answers, I'll throw Houses in as a bonus. That said, I'm putting it under a read more because this thing is long.
blorbo (favorite character, character I think about the most): My head says Dimitri (for his character arc in Azure Moon, as well as his excellent collection of supports), but my heart says Rhea (because I enjoy playing with her backstory, plus she's the only character I'll S-support when I play Silver Snow).
scrunkly (my “baby”, character that gives me cuteness aggression, character that is So Shaped): This one's tough, but Flayn's probably the most consistent scrunkly (what with her not aging post-timeskip).
scrimblo bimblo (underrated/underappreciated fave): My stepson, Cyril! Idk, he's just a very good boy, and he cracks me up with his bluntness.
glup shitto (obscure fave, character that can appear in the background for 0.2 seconds and I won’t shut up about it for a week): Hegemon Edelgard (yes, I know Edelgard isn't an obscure fave, but I have a soft spot for her rarely seen husk).
poor little meow meow (“problematic”/unpopular/controversial/otherwise pathetic fave): I'll say Aelfric for this one, since he kind of embodies this character type. Edelgard kind of fits too, though I don't think she ticks all the boxes.
horse plinko (character I would torment for fun, for whatever reason): Edelgard, though it's less putting her through messed up shit, and more implying that Rhea was romantically involved with her ancestor.
eeby deeby (character I would send to superhell): Those Slitherers and the crusty bastards who work for them (Edelgard and Hubert aren't included in this group btw, since I consider their relationship with the dubsteppers to be more of an alliance of convenience, rather than them being loyal underlings).
Thank you for the ask!~ <3
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Subtext between siblings is a long traditions but so far, there haven't been a pay off for those. it's either put in some context rather dark (Arvis/Deidre) or for comedic sake. When it comes to the date simulator however, Intys always pull an excuse so that said characters aren't related in canon for the player to be able to S support them and to make all of it PG. Even though it's a japanese thing, even them have their limits and when there is actual incest it's often in R 18 game that are 100% self aware as it's portrayed as a bad thing but the protag would do it anyway, but there isn't much of those. It's either your adoptive sister or your ex stepsister, rarely your actual sister. after all, if Intys did not went "dragons are fine with inbreeding" but had to ressort to "see ? they don't have the same dad cause multivers" then were fine for at least a little moment; until the Fe 4 remake that is
i know, its just interesting (and important) to see intsys’s long history with incestuous subext. :)
even if they DO have an explicit incestuous relationship ingame, i dont think that the localizers would let that slide… unless its like integral to the plot and it was given a higher maturity rating at the very least.
we’ll see how the remake plays out ig. im definitely going to play it if the leaks were legit. im just going to try to keep away from the discourse :p
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Saias makes his way into the classroom and takes his seat, setting his satchel out on the desk before him and taking out the necessary materials for the class. Part of the reason why he’d chosen the Officer’s Academy had been how vigorous and thorough the magic education had been presented to be, and that, coupled with its faraway location, had made this school the most attractive to the budding bishop-in-training. As a result, he finds himself excited to attend his first Reason class—here’s hoping it’s as good as he heard it was.
Not to mention he’ll have better resources for learning how to control his magic. While he would like to attempt the other branches of Reason while he’s here, it’s probably best to focus on Fire thanks to his heritage giving him a natural affinity for that particular element.
... One of these days Saias is going to figure out how to stop tempting fate, because when he finishes arranging his stuff and looks back up, who should appear at the front of the class but Arvis himself. In a professor’s uniform.
WHAT THE H—
The teen stares, paralyzed with shock, at the near-exact copy of Julius. The older man’s hair is wavier, and the Mark of Loptous is missing from his forehead, but there is no doubt in Saias’s mind that this is his birth father and the emperor of Grannvale. What in Bragi’s name is he doing here?! And if he’s here, who’s running the country in his absence? (Of course, he could’ve come here from a different point in time; he looks a little on the young side.)
For the rest of the class, the teen does his level best to avoid eye contact with the professor while making himself as nondescript and uninteresting as possible. He breathes a sigh of relief when the bell tolls and the class ends, and he stands with his fellow students to begin packing his things away. I wonder what the dining hall is serving for lunch. Hmm...
Then he makes the mistake of looking up. A jolt of panic shoots through him as the professor strides right towards him.
(starter for @avemaera)
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