#ariana debose and chris pine are zionists

[boomthedruun]

I absolutely agree that we need more black creators in media, especially at Disney, but your criticism that Disney doesn’t want to make new black characters just isn’t true. Ethan from Strange World and Asha from Wish are both black leads with black mothers, unless you don’t consider them black because they’re biracial? Because you would be contradicting yourself, seeing as you’ve even addressed in another post that being half white shouldn’t discredit someone’s cultural identity. Therefore Ethan and Asha are black.

But if I’m being honest, I don’t get why Wish is good enough for you, but Halle playing Ariel was racially manipulative..? You claim to want represention with real culture, but Wish is no more culturally-accurate than TLM 2023 was. It’s a botched attempt at portraying Iberian and North African culture, and people from both respective communities have addressed the inaccuracies. Even the concept art showed more promise than the final product. You can’t praise one Disney re-skin but then rave about another because let’s face it, nothing about Asha stands out whatsoever.

And aside from the fact that the characters were modeled after their voice actors, they don’t represent these people at all. Ariana DeBose and Natasha Rothwell don’t have any North African ancestry. Chris Pine, Angelique Cabral, and Victor Garber don’t have any Iberian ancestry.

The majority of the creatives credited for working on Wish are still white, so we couldn’t consider Wish a win for black people even if it was culturally accurate. If you really want better for the black families watching Disney, this movie shouldn’t cut it for you either.

Asha might not be a princess but she could still be a leader

As I said in a previous post it is 100% confirmed Asha will have no royal status whatsoever in this movie but will still be apart of the Disney princess line, do we have another Mulan situation here? I don’t think so.

So here’s my theory obviously she’s gonna defeat the villain that’s just how Disney movies work, But if she does that then why wouldn’t she take his place and be a princess? if she does good the people would probably want her to be their new ruler. (If they’re not completely politically brainwashed bc I can tell this movie will have political elements)

I love my Disney princesses but monarchy is shit in the real world and I can definitely see her accepting the role of a leader but not a princess or queen. Remember how vanellope changed herself into a president in wreck it Ralph? She could do that!

I want her to abolish/overthrow the monarchy!

I refuse to believe there aren’t racial elements to this movie the king paints this girl as a criminal for calling out how shit his system is and that would be perfect for our next black Disney “princess” to do

And we’ve had other “leader” characters in the Disney Princess line, both Moana and Pocahontas are daughters of the chief the odd one out has always been Mulan so my question is… is this a Mulan situation or a Moana one?

EDIT: last night in an interview Ariana DeBose described Asha as and I quote “an all new original character with beautiful brown skin and freckles”. That to me says this will not be a Mulan situation and while I did compare Moana too, from a cultural standpoint she’s a technically a “Princess” since she always knew she’d inherit her island and still has that kind of princess privilege that characters like Tiana and Cinderella didn’t have until the end of their films. I genuinely might be in my own head here but I can’t see this ending any other way and the little hints they drop don’t seem subtle to me as both an artist and story writer

[fandomshatepeopleofcolor]

I have to preface this by saying that I don't want to defend Wish from valid criticism. I myself did not watch the film becos free Palestine, fuck Disney, and Ariana Debose and Chris Pine being Zionists.

However, with all the pple wishing that the initial concept of Asha and the human boy Star (who looks White/Whitepassing) was the film they got instead, I can't help but wonder if this particular type of reaction was fueled by audiences' inability to connect with Black or Brown female lead characters, and needing a pretty magical White boy to fangirl over.

- mod sodapop

I'm convinced the obsession with human boy Star has something to do with RotG Jack Frost. Chris Pine being in the movie contributes to it to.

Also of course fandom's struggle to connect to a woman of colour as a main character, especially when she's not in a relationship with a white boy.