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mrs-monaghan · 2 months ago
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Tbh I'm a jikooker, but I find it incredibly difficult to fit a healthy long-term relationship into the same timeline as all of jimin's solo work. It's not the pronouns or taking one lyric very literally, its the entire thing, plus comments from him and his producers. To me, you'd have to do some serious olympic level mental gymnastics to make that make sense. I don't doubt that jikook have a special bond, I've definitely seen things between them that definitely look like sexual attraction to me and things that surpass friendship boundaries, but I can't in good faith say that they're together in some official long-term way if I actually listen to jimin and his work.
I've seen some jikookers think they broke up for a while, but I have to question if those people have ever been through a breakup because the little bit of distance/separation/awkwardness we did see from them during chapter 2 is nothing compared to the type of tension that would be there if a relationship that intimate and intertwined had separated, especially considering the dark feelings jimin was feeling. He wouldn't have been cutely commenting on jungkook's lives and jungkook wouldn't have been asking to hang-out or getting excited to see jimin in his comments.
Idk, I'm sure someone could twist everything a certain way and only take certain things at face-value and then make everything else abstract, etc. to make the case that they are together, but I don't really see it. You look at face-off, alone, and just his general dark feelings during Face, then look at the creation of Muse and how him and his producers said he couldn't relate to the love-dovey beginning songs, which is how they ended up making Who (despite the fact that jikookers try to distance him from the song since he doesn't have writing credits even though he sat in the recording room telling them what he wanted and saying it felt like reading his diary). I think jimin could have very well gone through a pretty awful breakup along with the inner turmoil he was going through post-covid, but I don't think it was with jungkook if he did. I still enjoy jikook's bond either way at the end of the day, but yeah I don't really get how anyone can take an honest look at jimin's work and his words and think he was in a long-term healthy love-of-his-life relationship during that time or into chapter 2.
Not trying to change your opinion or anything, honestly I don't really see it discussed much in jikooker spaces (besides bad-faith stuff like tkkers stirring up shit over pronouns in lyrics which is just dumb) and when it is, some jikookers are pretty pick-and-choose about what they deem to be true to jimin's feelings and what isn't. Which I get being nuanced, but sometimes it does feel like a "well this fits my beliefs so clearly this is true to jimin and this doesn't so it means nothing because he didn't write it" or whatever. I honestly get annoyed with the bad-faith arguers because it prevents being able to have actual discussions about some of this stuff in our little jikooker corner of tumblr. Like "he said her, he's clearly straight! he danced with a girl, straight!" stfu.
I don't have much to say to you anon. Not really. Not anything that hasn't been said anyway. Which you've seen and decided its jkkrs doing mental gymnastics. "I'm a Jikooker but..." its never a great way to start a sentence. It just gives major insecure jkkr vibes which i just 😬😬😬😬😬😬😬 you either believe in them or you don't. There is no if, and or buts.
I will leave you with this; over the years, antis and (insecure) jkkrs alike have always found a way to conclude Jkk aren't as close anymore or they broke up or some other bullshit. But what happens everytime Jikook resurface and we see them together again?
NOTHING HAS CHANGED!!!
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Nothing ever changes with these 2! They come back closer, more in sync, happier, more in love and their relationship more established than ever. This happens every👏🏽damn👏🏽time👏🏽 Everytime!
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Then the insecure jkkrs will be like "jkk is real" again.
And then we will go without content for a while and once again we are back here with the jkk aren't as close argument. Once again. It is an exhausting cycle that I refuse to be a part of.
You can try and nit pick various reasons as to why Jikook aren't in an established rlship, but I will chose to focus on reasons why they are definitely 130000000% in a relationship. Like the fact that they are enlisted together rn, the fact that they could have done AYS with other members but chose eo. Or the fact that Jimin wrote his name on JK's chest with sunscreen and I dont even want to imagine how he did that. What position they were in that would justify people calling them brothers 😂
You do you anon. I'mma just be over here enjoying Jimin promote the hell out of his favourite JK song.
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Look at him so proud of his man 🥺🥺
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mrspark7777777 · 5 months ago
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https://x.com/koomi_aussie/status/1811792558705737847
what do you think ? 👀👀 why he keep doing this ?
Coz he's with daddy JK
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I'm sorry... I'm sorry. I'll behave 😂😂😂
No, but really. We know why. Its the same reason he pretends he can't open a packet of chips without JK's help. Or when he pretends he can't jump high enough and needs daddy JK to lift him.
Mimi aint weak by any means.... he can be cocky.. he can manspread... he can be strong... he can do everything.....
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unless JK is in the room and suddenly our very capable Jimin becomes a blushing damsel in distress.
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I mean,
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Goes way back
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Jimin may have his dom moments but if we are being honest they are like this 90% of the time
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Make no mistake though, anon. It goes both ways. JK is okay to be treated like the maknae when it comes to the other members. But with Jimin he is the mature, hunk, oppa 🤭 as Jikookers like to call him. Carrying Jimin's bags, walking infront of Jimin, defending Jimin from...everyone, protecting Jimin, making sure he's eating, etc, etc
We've even seen the dude peacocking for God's sake! I wonder if this scene is because Jimin wants to be the one to carry the umbrella but JK wants to be the one to do it?
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So instead they just end up play fighting in the rain and getting all wet? Damn.
That one meme was right: even fanfic writers couldn't do it as good as Jikook do it.
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btstulip · 5 months ago
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Are You Sure?!
NO! I am not!!! What did I just watch?!? And I am not even talking about the episodes yet!
Yes, I believe Jimin and Jungkook are very close, and in my opinion, likely have a romantic relationship. So I was very excited when their travel show was announced because I love some Jikook content. But all I wanted and expected from this show was to watch Jimin and Jungkook having fun together before their military enlistment. Of course I figured there would be cute and sus moments, but I expected it to be no different from In The Soop or some Run BTS episodes. That was my belief right up until they started showing us the promo teasers...
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Wait. What?!
I had already raised an eyebrow at the mention of GCF Tokyo. That already had me feeling delulu as hell.
I 100% expected Are You Sure?! to be a "bro" show, and everything we had seen initially fit that expectation. NEVER, in a million years, did I expect the official trailers for the show to look romantic as hell. I was NOT prepared!!! This was the first teaser that full on broke me. They showed so much couple looking content... I mean they freaking showed them brushing teeth together in matching PJS! And that was just the start of it. This is not what you would do if you're trying to play this off as just good friends traveling together. So what the hell are they doing officially promoting the show this way?!
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I was seriously confused by that trailer. Like my brain broke. I just could not understand how this was the official trailer. That is what lead to this theory:
And the rest of the teasers just solidified that theory for me because they obviously went with "couple" over "bro" vibe.
@stormblessed95 talks about the AYS trailers:
@kanmom51 talks about Are you sure? main trailer:
If Jimin and Jungkook aren't together, someone needs to tell Bighit!
Honestly though, I still thought this would end up looking like fan service and maybe the most couple looking moments were cut into the trailers to make the show look tame in comparison. And then I watched the first two episodes. WTAF?!?!
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I seriously can not believe the stuff they put in the show. But that's another post.
Here are some of my favorite prerelease Are You Sure?! related posts:
💜 Post about youth and romance by @haedalkoo
💜 Post about Jikook headed to Tokyo by @kookmin-curious
💜 @stormblessed95 post with Jikook theory during and after Japan trip
💜 @kanmom51 has a fun post about Jikook sitting together and Jimin hugs inspired by trailer clips
💜 Another cute Jikook sitting together post by @seoul-bros
💜 @stormblessed95 discovers the likely reason Jikook were laughing about beds
💜 @stormblessed95 shared an incorrect quote that killed me!
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theschizotypalsolilquy · 3 months ago
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So my FYP page on tiktok has taken time to curate, especially since I am intrigued by numerous things that rarely overlap.
My absolute favorite dms though come from people I've met through Booktok, mainly fanfics and reverse harem books.
Anyways, like I said, my interests rarely overlap. And I'm also aware that although BTS is one of the biggest bands in the world, not everyone knows who they are. Or enough about them to even recognize individual members.
So it cracks me the fuck up when I'll get a dm from one of them wanting to know who the adorable Asian couple is that I constantly reblog on my page. Especially with the show, my poor followers 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I just find it amusing that even people who don't know who they are, see what they put out there. One person wanted to know if it was a couple vlog they could follow on YouTube. Please 🙏 🙏 🙏
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For anyone who is looking for the 'Are You Sure?! behind the scenes' video- Here's a link with the full 52 minute video with English subtitles.
Are You Sure?! Behind The Scene - Subtitle English - BiliBili
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in2u-4asec · 4 months ago
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😂😂😂
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jihyped · 3 months ago
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Sapporo has given us the softest and most domestic jikook ever! We were shown how strong they can be, both physically and emotionally, their unique and beautiful bond is something everyone should strive for! 💜
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btstulip · 4 months ago
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I can’t wait for the next episode! Why isn’t it Thursday yet?!
Are you sure? Jeju - Episode 4
The Pool
Honey's I'm back. Been to the edge of Australia, literally, and back.
Finally watched the episode, and oh boy, there is so much to break down, isn't there.
I won't lie, I've seen so much talk about EVERYTHING here on Tumblr and on X, and I really am joining this party super late. But I will be posting here for the fun of it, cause it's never enough, right? And also maybe I can bring some of the moments together, for points to be made, Idk. I just hope I can manage to get some posts done before the next episode drops, cause there is really so much to unravel here.
Out of everything that went down I thought I'd start with JM and JK's pool party fest.
They return from dinner, where they let Tae know he's a guest on THEIR show once again (and I mention this just because those two just don't stop reminding us and him of said fact, lol) and decide to go into the pool to cool down.
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JK looked like he needed a bit of cooling down when JM was undressing next to him.
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It was just the two of them, Tae not joining.
JK is in first and JM following, entering and moving towards JK with a LOOK on his face. A LOOK that had JK finding the need to remind JM that the pool wall was glass and see through.
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There is no way under the sun that JM's intentions were pure at this moment.
NO WAY!!!
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JK knew it.
You gotta be daft not to see it, especially with that man's reaction to JK's comment.
And it's funny, cause it's not like JM didn't see that glass pool wall before. It was just JK's need to remind him off it that makes it so much clearer he was up to no good, lol.
Did you notice how the footage cuts at that moment? I guess we are already used to these cuts, right? There are PLENTY of them in this episode as well. Don't get me started on the before shower, during shower and after shower that night, lol.
Right after that cut we go into Jikook playful mode.
We don't know just how much time they spent in that pool, but we got close to 4 minutes of it. Clearly they were there for some time, we got to see some highlights. The PG version of them playing around in the pool.
It amazes me every time when I see just how in sync those two are with each other. And we got to see it here as well. I mean, we saw it right through the episode. Remember in part 2 of my Jikook in bed (AYS CT) when I mentioned JK was just being with JM when he was just resting his head on JM's thigh? Well, I believe that word is so appropriate for this episode as well.
BEING
Just the two of them.
Even with Tae there with them, it was just them being with each other. With the mundane and everyday stuff.
It's the checking in on each other (for example when JK was getting excited over the food in the Japanese restaurant and JM checks in on him, or when he hits his fist on the table in the chicken restaurant and again, JM checking in on him, or JK just rubbing JM's thigh in the restaurant in episode 3 knowing he's not feeling the best).
It's the making joint decisions - what to eat, when to eat, what to do, when to go to sleep.
It's the calmness. Just calmness in their interactions.
It's them knowing what the other is feeling or meaning, at times without even speaking.
It's them playing around with each other when others don't even understand what's going on (Tae on the boat not getting their playfulness or sense of humor).
It's their constant hyping each other up or complimenting each other.
It's them finding solace in each other.
It's them cuddling watching the sunset.
It's them finding figures in the clouds and drawing them.
It's them hugging while snorkeling.
It's them seeking each other out while snorkeling, wanting to share the experience with the other, share the fun.
It's them sharing their solo music and choreo with each other before it comes out. Spending their time talking about each other's singing and dancing.
It's them being super flirty and talking with underlying innuendos through out their conversations.
It's them just BEING with each other.
I will most likely be writing much more about this, probably small posts with these special moments, but I just had to mention this here as well. Because this here, their time in the pool, was one of those moments as well.
They just click.
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And it's so damn loud just how special they are with each other, how different they are with each other.
Saying that is not about diminishing what they have with the other members, because we all know just how close they are with each other, all 7 of them. They are bandmates, they are good friends, they love each other. But let's be realistic here, with all of that, the level of their friendships, the depth of their relationships with each and every one of the other members varies. it's just how it is. Real life, you know. And saying that JM and JK's connection is different and showing how it's different does not diminish from their connections with the others, it just highlights THEM.
And as such, I don't cower away from making these comparisons, because they are part of what screams that the two are a couple. There are things you do with your significant other you don't with your good friend. There are ways you behave with said significant other that you won't with your good friend. There are things you will allow your significant other do to you, do with you, that you won't allow with a good friend. It's the way you communicate with your significant other, things you say, things you don't say, things you don't need to say, tones you use, all of which you don't do with a friend, no matter how good of a friend they are. That's life. No reason to shy away from that just because there are some people that will take it the wrong way.
JM and JK in the pool was just that.
When you know you know.
They were playing games with each other.
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Btw, I'm gonna say it even though you have all probably noticed this already, but JK, he doesn't push JM in that game. Not one time. And it reminds me of previous times they've done this.
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More games.
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then for Tae's benefit.
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They were being playful with each other.
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They were having fun with each other, just BEING.
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Doing THEIR thing.
Jjust clicking.
Being absolutely the cutest EVER possible.
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And they can't be Jikook without their signature "You are me I am you", right?
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This whole sequence reminded me of the last time we got to catch their late night playfulness. You know, the whole mosquito net debacle, lol.
Only this time there was no alcohol involved and they fully aware of the cameras filming them, lol.
And before all those that happen to be lurking here waiting for me to say something to latch onto start celebrating "she said it", I say calm your farm, because NO SHE DID NOT. Them knowing the cameras are there and having fun TOGETHER, at times posing for the cameras, hence doing it for us to see, takes absolutely NOTHING from it being an authentic and spontaneous interaction.
I can't believe that I actually have to explain this.
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Did I mention how many times those two reminded Tae and us that he's a guest on THEIR show?
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"The guest is coming"...
"He must be bored and wanting attention"...
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"He must be lonely..."
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And this is for our benefit? Or their own, perhaps, lol.
"He's the guest... guests can comb their hair...guests should be pretty..."
And then the editors chime in as well.
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I guess it was super important to drive this point right home just in case there were those that still didn't get it.
This show, it's JM and JK's. Period.
Tae = guest.
And he is sure going to be reminded of that by both of them throughout the trip. He is, and so are we.
And what about JK leaving the pool only to jump in again ("it's cold") to climb out again with JM?
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Again, one of those "we do things together" of theirs.
All in all, the episode was friggin amazing. If there was anyone who for some reason (delusions, for one) thought that Tae being there with them will take away from us seeing just how JIKOOK those two were, or that JK would show his undying love for his husband and father of his children (🤮🤮) that sure was a hell of a rude awakening for them.
The interactions were as clear as day. And very telling. As per usual and as I had said in the past, if anything then JM is the axis with JK and Tae circling him, biding for his attention, JK knowing everything there is to know about JM while Tae needing to say just how much he knows JM. And if we're on the subject of Tae wanting to tell us just how much he knows JM, what we also got to see is just how much Tae and JK don't know about each other (Tae not knowing JK doesn't drink sweet drinks before eating or JK not knowing that Tae has been struggling with sleep lately), again, as a stark difference to JM and JK's abundance of it (JM knowing JK hadn't slept on the flight back prior to their trip, JM singing 3D).
I have so much more to say, but I'm going to stop right here, leave some more to talk about later.
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jkvjimin · 4 months ago
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PARK JIMIN??? JEON JUNGKOOK???? HELLO?????????
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mrs-monaghan · 18 days ago
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Apparently bam scratched his body
So very true😅
Thats Bam for ya 😂😂😂😂
So a friend sent me these
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So I went hunting for these
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Those nails can do some damage my dude 😂😂😂 We can safely say Jimin doesn't finger JK that often but moving on swiftly... 😌
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It's even more clear in this gif I saw on this post
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Oh,
My God!!!!!!
Let's just take a seat here for a second coz, 🪑 JK, got the good good 👉���👌🏽 and mans couldn't wait till he was done catching his breath to come on camera???? Couldn't wait till the evidence subsided before standing that close to the fucking camera??? Chiiiiiiiild!!!!!!
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Listen, by now, the fact that JK sees everything should NOT be debatable. And even if its not literally everything, he's seen the popular shit. And analyses are popular my guy. Some with a milli views even. Or hundreds of thousands so at the very least he knows we analyse Jikook like hell. And then he just comes and-
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Mr "wax my legs when going to see JK" was on a mission to get some. And he got some goooood.
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🤭🤭🤭 people really out here thinking Jikookers are delulu. If that's the case then explain JK's nipple????
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A friend of mine who's so good at clocking this kind of stuff pointed this out and immediately I was like; Daaaaaaamn!! Mimi did NOT come to play. That nipple got sucked like there was no tomorrow 🤭
Between the waxing and how happy JK was when Jimin arrived
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(Tbf he always is but work with me here) and JK coming on camera to spill the tea without spilling the tea, something tells me they hadn't seen eo in a minute..
Damn JK, we know y'all fuck, you really didn't have to make us go there. Damn.
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This post and this one go hand in hand
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mrspark7777777 · 4 months ago
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The translation though
https://x.com/cFCKBtshEFcVgx0/status/1821583637718192150
does it make sense? I can’t grasp it, because it almost feels backwards. But really the gist is they weren’t free to meet up at the same time, a bit like what you said before about distractions. I almost felt that last year there was some self imposed ban on seeking each other, especially going to he others promotions, which is why when JK is free he didn’t go to music bank to see JM like Yoongi or on a show with him, or like Hobi to see the mv filmed, like they did it on purpose? I’m probably not making sense, but as in to lay low as best they could with impending enlistment, not that they weren’t seeing each other but not overtly or maybe not enough quality time?
Thanks for the ask my lovely. I've addressed some of this here but sure, let's talk about this too. Just like OP said;
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Its been established JK had a hard time during FACE era. His boyfriend was MIA, he didn't see him much, it took a toll. A toll Jimin was very aware of. My friends and I were just talking about this and we agreed AYS could be a result of Jimin's guilt. Him wanting to make it up to JK. I also believe what happened with JK during that time was the reason why they applied to enlist together.
Jimin loves to joke and make fun and he loves to make us happy but he loves to make JK happy even more. Say what you will about him but he priorities JK's needs and always has. This travel show, we will enjoy the hell out of it and have a great time, but Jikook needed this. They needed this escape and if they could only get away but portraying it as work, then thats exactly what they were going to do.
So yes anon, you're correct. The operative word here is enough. They talked of course, but not enough. They spend time together of course, just not enough. They were busy, they needed to behave while waiting to see if they would be approved for the buddy system, and so they didn't get to enjoy eo as much as they would have loved to.
It's as simple as that
During 3D era JK said Jimin kept coming up to him and singing "pweuriri" clearly that means they were spending time together. In a live he talked about Jimin rearranging his lights at his home. Then just recently Jimin told RM him and JK drink alot and talk about music. I mean, these are just 3 examples and they sure as hell didn't happen via osmosis.
They saw eo, they talked, of course they fucking did. Think hickeygate. When it doubt, think hickeygate. They couldn't outright tell us what happened and therefore manipulated the truth or rather didn't give us the whole story. That has and will always be an ongoing theme with Jikook: a gay couple in the closet. Go back to that scene and watch JK during this conversation. At some point he does this thing where he's like scratching his neck but you can tell there is no itch. That to me was a sign that there was more to the story.
So just think hickeygate and go from there. There is more to Jikook than meets the eye...
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btstulip · 5 months ago
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Is Bighit pulling a Rose Bowl?
New theory... Bighit wants the Jikook travel show to look as GAY as possible!
I was so shocked at the last trailer for Are You Sure?! You can read my post about that here. I mean come on...
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That is how they STARTED the damn trailer?!? 🤯And then playing Jimin's "Who" and Jungkook's "Seven". 😵 And those aren't even the only moments I was surprise didn't end up on the cutting room floor. This is not something you would do if you're trying to make this show look like two friends just being good bros on vacation together.
That's when it hit me, they are doing with Are You Sure?! what they did with the unforgettable Rose Bowl moment.
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Bighit had to decide how to handle 👆that very public moment of affection witnessed and recorded. So they put it in the official memories. If it were truly what it looked like, surely Bighit would try to bury it right? But the figured out how to repackage it as fanservice and hide it in plain sight.
I'm starting to be convinced that is what they are doing with Are You Sure?! They knew this show would raise eyebrows. And they knew jikook were going to jikook. They could have removed almost everything and we would still be left with cute moments where their chemistry and bond would be obvious for all to see. So why not make the show look over the top gay? It feeds right into the fanservice narrative so many already believe.
I'm starting to think they are going to put the most suspicious moments in the trailers/promotions to make the show look tame in comparison. Which is fine with me because those of us that know will still get to witness and enjoy so many warm and love filled moments. I can't wait to see them free to have fun together. 💜💛
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btstulip · 3 months ago
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I love this show so much. I smile the whole time and it brings me such warmth to see them happy.
Are You Sure continues to amaze me every week...
Initial first thoughts - As with every new episode, I am just so completely in awe at Jimin and Jungkook's relationship, and the fact that we get to see a glimpse more into their dynamic. It's not even the super fun activities, but the in-between moments that really hit me emotionally. It's the constant tenderness, the checking in to see how the other is feeling, the endless laughter, JK gently fixing the strap on Jimin's helmet, and Jimin knowing that JK would be hot in their room. Still, Jungkook assured him that he was fine and then quietly left the room later in the night to sleep on the couch because he knew Jimin was fine. JK would rather risk being uncomfortable than disturb him. The constant splitting of the food. Jimin staying in the car while JK ordered food for the both of them at the rest stop. Even watching them do their normal, everyday things together made me smile. They brush their teeth together, get ready in the morning together, and shower together. They really do everything together lol. And you really have to be close to someone to comfortably go on a trip with their friend group and they aren't even there, and it not be weird. This entire episode and really this ENTIRE show, has been such a beautiful journey to go on, and I'm truly going to be devasted when it's over. 😭😭😭
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Your Kkukie is with you right now Jimin and he will take care of you, while you heal through this endeavor ~
He will take care of you in ways that only he can right now, since he is one of your other halves.
Please take comfort in knowing that he is by your side
"You are me and I am you..."
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namchyoon · 5 months ago
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they're so funny 😭
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mrs-monaghan · 4 months ago
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Someone said JK wanted Jimin to say JK's pizza was his favourite and now I can't unsee it...
Are you sure? Ep. 2
Watching JK pushing Jimin's buttons will never not be funny. Another favourite moment from Episode 2.
Cr. busan baes
Post Date: 27/08/2024
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