#are eons healthier than third/khais starting friendship
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mejomonster · 4 years ago
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That Ton is watching sotus GOD my bi baby fool himbo u really are. Going through it
Ton: has a breakup
Goes and finds his old childhood best friend he probably always crushed on but didn’t know it was a crush we all been there bro
Finds said old best friend, immediately wants to be that close again and also act like it’s a rebound close relationship to get over Amp
Dude is a uhaul guy apparently
Dude is like jee it’s totally normal to not want my best friend flirted with, to cuddle up at gym, to try and help him and make him happy n flirt with no brakes
Also yes if he says he’s gay and loves me I can get over it (well good u are actually a good friend so there’s that) and then u. Want him in ur room again. I’m sorry my poor oblivious himbo but ur friends are right, space is needed. Like u can’t go back to a romantic friendship knowing Chon has a crush bro. That’s both leading him on (which he seems ok with but!! Long term he wouldn’t it’s not good for y’all) and leaving u in that grey area where Ton u are in love but not confronting how Personally which is some personal growth u gotta go thru bro
Oh and ur watching sotus how can I forget. My dude wants to watch sotus with his best friend who loves Him, who hes probably in love with back, and probably ask if Chon relates as much as Ton which. To be fair. If they did that I think Ton would become self aware anyway so it’s not necessarily a bad idea... like just watch it together and NOT share a bedroom so y’all got boundaries until u realize U like him back so y’all both upfront and self aware that’s all uvu
Anyway Ton is like. Described as DENSE and he truly is thick as a brick. He lives with two other best friends who are gay and in love and very actively flirting, and they keep it secret in the most pathetic dumb ways imaginable, and Ton just goes with it cause he’s actually dumber Than them somehow... and they’re all complete himbos so. It’s quite the feat to be even more oblivious and dense than Ai and Ni. Tons like the one oblivious bi himbo in a house of gay himbos and a best friend mutually in love but he’s got some dad issues and understandably has never examined his love for Chon too deeply probably to avoid said dad issues. Since a majority of his acceptance issues just seem to be his dads words parroted, and he’s cool abandoning them to keep loving his friends completely as ppl, so mostly now it’s probs just an internal thing making him feel bad. Which incidentally... mm his dad needs to let it goooo. Those same words make Ton think he should put up with cruel women like Amp in his life, when it’s clear he is enjoying not being in a toxic relationship for once. Like I’m sure pressure from his dad made him think he should accept being in more toxic relationships in the past. Ton Im Sorry bro..
And amp really. Really is toxic. I’d say only 2 things really pissed me off so far? And like I can handle it cause I’ve seen worse in some Thai shows but just. It’s annoying it’s scenarios common at all I suppose. One is Gunsmile, I’m sorry you gotta play a villain in this even tho they literally reference sotus clips and in sotus you were one of my FAVORITE characters for how you actually Weren’t cruel but very caring. Whereas in this Neung and Amp are truly dangerous, maliciously intended people. Both of them think assault is ok, it’s implied BY them that assault is an issue on campus from seniors Period too (which I hate that it’s implied so casually, even tho I know in a tonnnn of American collehe movies it’s also implied and I know my own fucking university had an awful assault prevalence and just like god please practice safety precautions when you go out to bars or god fucking frats period). Like I’m not surprised it’s implied their college is just as bad, it just makes me annoyed the consequences aren’t more severe. Neung should be charged, him and Amp should be expelled for being a threat to other students. Amp in particular is malicious constantly and I feel like the show paints her as a mad ex but doesn’t really highlight her as quite as full on dangerous as she actually is. She actually wanted to harm Chon and probably Pang. She would harm Ton, and it’s no wonder after she cheated and they broke up Ton decided to literally go no contact and his friends bar Amp from even getting near him. In general I’d well like all these toxic parties in power as upperclassmen to get recprecussions, even tho I know In real universities it unfortunately Is often this fucked up i would Love harsher consequences since this is fiction. And then second on this is Chon not apologizing for kissing Ton Clearly. He apologized when he did it, but the moment was tense then they both left. Then the next scenes implied both chon being sad AND aware he shouldn’t have kissed his friend like that, and his mom even affirmed he should prioritize apologizing - not for loving his friend, since confessing that is not bad, but for kissing him without asking. And considering how Ton reacted, I agree another clearer apology would be nice. And it just annoys me that when they do finally talk calm, the scene skips any apology chon may have made or words they both said about what happened and skips to the “we’ve reconciled and want to hang out and live together again.” So like. It implied Ton forgives him and is fine now that he’s processed things. Which is good, since I’d be madder if Ton felt uncomfortable. But I’m still annoyed the writing setup that it knew Chon kissing him asleep was wrong, and that he should apologize and HE knew it and expressed he wanted to, and then didn’t give me the actual scene. Even if it wasn’t a big deal to Ton, it was in the initial moment and the shows writing knew it enough to say it so I’d have preferred a real scene about it being resolved.
Tho as things go. I think 2gether wasn’t much better. Fairly sure Sarawat kissed Tine without permission drunk, no one apologized. But since this particular show actually addressed that it was aware the action was rude, I was hoping it would complete that consideration and show an apology on screen too. Also idk but similar threats of violence not played as super big? Like Amp and Neung, I think also happened in 2gether. So I suppose this is not particularly surprising. I guess just, because sometimes the writing does address some things (like it’s done very well depicting intolerance due to upbringing/family pressure versus actually addressing it in urself and improving - Ton feels much more relatable to teen me when I was biphobic to myself from authority figures pressures and assumptions I had, yet when I met other queer people I got much better perspective fast even if I didn’t realize I was also queer right away - which I have liked muchhhh better than a lot of “I’m straight except for u” hand waves in some bl, Tons story is written with some intolerance that actually feels characyer driven and is improved with growth, whereas in a decent number of others it’s just there to act Manly and then never grown or improved... another arc similar to this I DID like was Mork in Dark Blue Kiss because he had some society learned desire to not relate to liking men personally but once he understood himself it wasn’t an internal issue for him and he moved onto only dealing with it his relationship was being healthy and fair to him, much more relatable again to a pretty regular experience compared to some I’ve seen). Anyway my point is just. There’s some actual well written things in this show and I think that’s part of why the weaker parts piss me off more - cause I’d expect more weight in my ideal story to calling them out.
Like... to me theory of love did the Best at putting real weight into how fucked up toxic friendships are, and the scene where one kisses the other knowing it’s unwanted is so fucked up but like. It is written and shot to make ur gut twist and angry, to make you realize it’s fucked up and wrong and NOT romantic. It’s not even “no big deal” or “what always happens” (which I’d say is how Amp and Neung feel portrayed, or usually when it happens in American college story settings in shows/movies even). But in theory of love, it’s made abundantly clear why it’s fucked up. And it is one of many intensely harsh scenes emotionally to get to you HATE the people doing it, for doing it, for thinking it’s ok, and for the characters themselves to hate that they did. Theory of love is angst and pain and not even healthy or optimistic till the last 3rd and that is the Point. So it can afford to show these scenes where a character knows they’ve fucked up and is torn to shit over it, where the other is so sad their friend would do it and so in love they just go with it instead of ending the kiss. And it ends up vaguely mutual but still clearly not what should’ve been done, both of them well aware how toxic how they are with each other is and motivated to get thefuck away from their own destructive behavior to themselves and their friend. Like... theory of love isn’t a light fluff comedy like why r u or 2gether or tonhon chonlatee. It was willing to paint bad shit and it’s consequences in full, which hey different approaches for different things. But it also means when stuff like a kiss happens in a show like THIS, it might be momentary drama but the story implies overall both characters were happy and wanted it and just it was an awkward time (similar to 2gethers handling). Which is fine I just.. with the self awareness this show had for a moment, I was hoping it could be both this outcome AND address an apology still just to add to their good friendship. (Tho I guess to be fair to Ton and Chon... their flirty friendship is EONS from Third/Khai. Chon didn’t expect a relationship, confessed he liked Ton and just wanted to stay friends, Ton was shocked his friend was gay but ultimately wants his friend back, chon is ok being treated romancitwlly still - tho his roommates are right he should keep boundaries for a while for now - and Ton is ok giving Chon either a friendship like before or with more boundaries. Their only iffy part is the grey area of tjem not sure if Ton likes him back, and Chon not sure how long he’d be ok with the flirting before either needing a relationship or a harsher boundary of “let’s just be friends so I can get over you.” Ton this whole time HAS been a supportive friend, attentive, kind, and the actual friendship has been pretty mutual in terms of how much they care about and respect each other. Whereas third and khai... Khai was using the fuck out of third, giving him very little care, and before ANY of thirds crush factors in, that base friendship was toxic as all fucking hell. Also even not knowing his feelings fully, Ton is much more respectful to Chon than Khai was when he found out about thirds crush. And chon having a crush, was more accepting that he needed to move on if Ton didn’t like him or tell him, and since Ton never treated him badly chon didn’t have to expect any behavior changes - his feelings only affected him. Whereas third had a Bunch of expectations Khai might be nicer/more respectful and equal to him if Khai knew he liked him. And third wasn’t very prepared to move on if Khai didn’t like him/didn’t treat him better. So ton and chon just in general started with a much healthier base friendship, so their crushes and figuring things out is in a much lower pressure environment since the only obstacle is them really understanding themselves and what they want. Whereas third and Khai EVENTUALYL had those obstacles, but the big ones were about their toxic friendship and it needing to BREAK and be rebuilt healthier before a crush even factors into their situations..)
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