#apocryphon

[annqer]

my only goal in life is to make horror rpg maker-esque sunday art and have it in a sick edit

[luaminesce]

Bayonetta... 3...? What the hell are you talking about? There's only two mainline games (and a cromulent spin-off). Viola? Is that your Umbrasona? Come on now. There's only Bayo 1 and 2 (and Origins). You must've been dreaming...

[santmat]

Apocryphon of John (Secret Book of John) Series: Pleasure: The Tree of Death, Prof. M. David Litwa: https://youtu.be/TAYMk9o2ErM?si=ngaTUq8EPQ3aQLhI A delightful Gnostic story about the limited perception of relying solely upon the outer five senses, which implies there's another means of spiritual knowing also available, a "gnosis" to be had.

[catghoulz]

ohhh ok tht doez clarify. Thx

[n9ph]

[corelex]

i saw your post about the genesis apocryphon channel and i was wondering if you could explain more?? are the videos on the channel essentially the tapes dave was repairing? how did people find the channel?

GENESIS APOCRYPHON is a YouTube channel that posts "The Beginner's Bible" videos with a Mandela Catalogue twist. This is obviously connected to The Mandela Catalogue series to expand some parts of the lore. Looking back, this is essentially an Overthrone remake.

On the Mandela County Police website (which is currently deactivated or deleted), when you log in to Thatcher's account, Case #00335 features an edited version of "The Beginner's Bible: The Story of the Nativity". On that page, it is implied that Thatcher relies on Dave to fix this tape and maybe the other Beginner's Bible tapes that are like this.

In "mandela catalyst", this part shows a random text that when put as a YouTube channel link leads to the GENESIS APOCRYPHON channel.

[creature-wizard]

Thoughts on The Apocryphon of John ?

...Honestly I think I can let the Wikipedia page take this one.

[margaretqualleytruther]

gnostic jesus went off

[xederam]

I'd like to note for anyone interested in TMC, the video Mandela Catalyst features a YouTube video ID near the beginning, in the "TV broadcast hijack" section, which leads to the latest video on this channel.

[transcendentalsurrealism]

[jesus-had-relatives]

#23 Christian Gnostic Writings

A second category of pseudepigrapha writings were written by Christians during the first to third century AD.  These writings have as their subject matter the lives of the apostles after the crucifixion, as well as writings about Mary Magdalene and the Virgin Mary. These Christian writings as well as some Jewish writings belonged to the Gnostic movement of people seeking personal spiritual…

[selcouth-vast-poet]

Maybe you two can be friends if her mother approves :)

her Mother would kick me in the shin and make sure i fall off a cliff but SURE!!!! YIPEEEEEEE:D

[utopianparadoxist]

This is all true and interesting! Read Pumpkin Track for a Homestuck sequel where it's all just explicit and fact

By the way, I just finished a playlist for Jake English's ascension and ultimate confrontation with Dirk over the course of the Apocryphon. I think it makes a pretty great companion piece to the fic! Id be curious to hear what people think.

clawed my way through (some of) the epilogues and hs^2 again for dirkjake crumbs and i think there is a Genuine place for ultimate jake to fit into canon (or at the very least, lord jake english) since meat timeline jake never actually shows up visually in hs^2 and his final appearance in that timeline (minus a phone call or something w/ roxy? or was it kanaya fuck) is giving ult. dirk his spaceship and then proclaiming his undying love while desperately trying to get dirk to let him join him, to which dirk responds that he’ll “never let [jake] break [his] heart again” (ch39). agony.

two interesting things about the end of his arc in meat actually: for one thing, it’s kinda implied that along with giving dirk a spaceship, he also gave dave/karkat/roxy/kanaya/etc a spaceship to chase after him, so he’s at least taken some action to try to stop him. again though, we never see him after that point so like. the idea that he could just hope himself into becoming an ultimate self in the background is actually kind of a possibility?? like while the others try to chase dirk down, jake is figuring out how to brute force himself into ascension as a backup plan. second thing, dirk is very snarky in the narration about the fact that this dramatic goodbye he’s giving jake is the last time he’ll ever get to see him (jake see dirk, i mean) but ult. dirk also seems to lack power against alt. calliope when they fight over the narrative so jake ascending would actually pose a serious threat and might be able to override that, assuming dirk’s power over the narrative extends that far in the first place (thinking about that post talking about how narration is also a reflection of characters’ thoughts…)

candy timeline jake is also pretty interesting since he very notably starts being advised by BGD to be a kind of spy on the inside against jane’s. whole thing in that timeline. i actually completely cannot remember what jane does in the meat timeline, i think also some presidency bullshit, right?? that’s what the davekat thing was about??? but anyway BGD sounds pretty normal in all his dialogue, or normal for BGD at least, and is aware of both the game over timeline and ult. dirk’s bullshit enough to make fun of it so. idk maybe i’m just misunderstanding how ultimate selves work, but the fact that BGD wasn’t really “integrated” into ult. dirk feels significant to me, especially considering the fact that we can see caliborn/LE’s influence on ult. dirk so much (his narration in ch39 gives AR too, frankly, like the epilogues are obvs way more openly horny than hs proper but AR was always kinda like that too, especially about jake). hs^2 also ends super abruptly with some lore shit i skimmed half heartedly between calliope, roxy, and john again talking about his initial decision between candy and meat. that whole conversation pretty deliberately frames the decision between meat and candy as being parallel to terezi’s coin flip about whether or not to kill vriska, and roxycallie even tell john straight up that he needs to get vriska again to fix the story, perhaps assuming that’ll work again since it did when he was retconning the timeline? but imo, though maybe i’m biased cause i didn’t really review what vriska does post-canon again, it seems more fitting to me that jake would be the one to fix the bullshit timelines, considering 1. dirk is the one going bananas out of his fucking mind w/ control of the narrative, 2. thematically, pumpkins are the most logical, healthy alternative to meat and candy, fitting since caliborn explicitly aligns dirk and jake’s color scheme with them in the smut-drawing conversation and since (in the same breath) he establishes that he hates them and prefers meat/candy. but that’s getting into sherlock secret final episode levels of conspiracy, and i’m not sure i’m ready for that one

[santmat]

The Path of the Masters in Sethian Gnosticism: "This soul will be made to follow another soul in whom the spirit of life dwells, because she is saved through the spirit. Then she will never be thrust into flesh again." (Apocryphon of John/Secret Book of John)

[catghoulz]

^ This

[n9ph]

very nervous to finally make this public!! i have been working on this project for a few days, a analog horror video of one of my AUs, i hope you enjoy