#anyways i love t4t bi4bi relationships so much
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sorry im just thinking about joel being able to help chick with his internalized bi/homophobia and internalized transphobia too,,,,
(chick isnt even implied to have any sort of internalized bigotry, its just a weirdly popular hc 😭😭)
#all that aside WAUGH!!!!#joel being open about his bisexuality & transness & genderqueerness was a game changer for chick#and joel being patient with chick and explaining all the different labels & identities WHAT IF I EXPLODED#anyways i love t4t bi4bi relationships so much#💚🏆 former racer qpp#joelchick#self ship#selfship#self shipping#selfshipping#self ship community#selfship community#self shipping community#selfshipping community
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Yeah yeah yeah I'd love to hear your thoughts on the dynamics!!!
OKAY. SO. To restate myself: I THINK (almost) EVERY OAK AND CLOSE/FOSTER SHIP IS SO INTERESTING. They always have something fun going on … and also they’re always bi4bi which is deeply important to me. Sorry if any of this is hard to understand I am so so tired XD
Meryl and Hildy are the only two where I’ve not really dedicated thought to them. However, I could absolutely see them as like… you know that trope of a Casanova desperately chasing after the only woman who isn’t interested in him? THAT. THEY ARE THAT TO ME. Hildy is too focused on her career for men and it drives Meryl crazy
My thoughts on Barry and Bill should not be said in a public setting but I will provide this
Barry is gray and bill is blue. He should fuck that old man (purposefully ambiguous on who I mean). Anyways
My feelings on Glennry are. Well explored LMAO They’re my favorite ship! I know they can be super toxic as a ship, but I do really love them, most of all, as a ship where both parties fight tooth and nail to get better for the other. Because they understand each other and care for one another and the other person is just so so so fucking worth it to them. It makes me happy :]
Henry/Jodie is like, a sleeper agent in my mind. I think they have the capacity to be so fuckin compelling but I’m usually dedicating too much time to Glennry and Rodie to think about it. I LOVE these two though. I’m not usually a huge fan of Jodie struggling with his sexuality (it’s just funnier to me if he dated Scam with no hesitation.) but I’m in love with it specifically for Henry/Jodie contexts. Something about Henry being so loose and free with his sexuality contrasted with Jodie being so buttoned up about everything makes me so fhdksgajdhskdh!!! And of course, it is canon in that one AU-of-an-AU for MnMoms LMAO
Nark <3 one of my original ships and one I’ve been thinking about a lot this weekend. The PEAK of adhd boyfriend/autism boyfriend in my mind. As I said the other day - I love them as established but ambiguous. No one knows what their relationship is, least of all them, but it has been going on for years. I find them really interesting but I don’t tend to agree with some of the like, I dunno, trademark features of popular Nark dynamics? I think Nicky is the type to do anything to get approval from those who cares about, way more so than I’ve seen some people give him credit for (more, maybe they give him too much credit? Wording LOL), and I think Lark feels intense guilt for the mere act of existing, and I think these two characteristics are SO fun to throw up against each other. Also I know Nicky is a cool alt demon boy when they’re teens, but he’s still a cop’s son and I LOOOVE that in contrast to Lark’s hot-to-those-in-his-age-group brooding and general delinquency vibes (ie (our only real example) swapping places with his twin so he can risk his life LMAO). GOD SORRY IM RAMBLING ABOUT NARK NOW I like them. A lot
In contrast to Nark, I think the general consensus on Lovesong is awesome. Sparrow and Nicky liked each other so much as teenagers, they were an adorable T4T couple, they’re adhd boyfriend/autism girlfriend, and now they’re the worlds messiest exes ever and it’s everyone’s problem <3 ohhh sword to throat scene, you will ALWAYS be famous. I also love them with a dynamic of like… Sparrow being much more confident around Nicky, but struggling a lot in general social interactions. Something about her blossoming and opening up when around Nicky in particular, and maybe neither of them even notice at first… but then one day it clicks. They’re just SO comfortable around each other and I love thinking about like. The details of how that relationship dissolves, and how much worse it must have made the betrayal. Their current antagonism is made so so so interesting, especially when Sparrow is such a pushover to everyone BUT Nicky… OUGH. LOVE THEM!!!! (do you guys like how I automatically trans fem Sparrow in Lovesong settings specifically LMAO)
Oakworthy is another one I’ve talked about at length. They are two bugs I am raising in captivity together and they keep trying to each other, so I have to separate them, but I put them back together anyways. Because thIS IS HOW OAKWORTHY CAN STILL WIN-!! I love these two, fully immersed in the fantasy that they’re going to fix things and get together in the end. I think the fact that they both have such strong identity issues but in different ways - Hermie has no idea who he truly is and tries on a million masks to compensate, while Normal tries so desperately to be someone else but his true identity always shows in the end - makes for a REEEALLY interesting dynamic. They both try so hard to be who the other person wants, and fail to realize that what the other wants is for them to be themselves. Makes me crazy
AND FINALLY. NORMAL/TAYLOR. Tayloak <3 only something I’ve started thinking about, like… in the past few weeks XD but I think they’re REALLY FUN. Obviously there’s this massive aspect of Normals jealousy of (and over) Taylor, which can be fun to play with in a “do I want him or do I want to be him” way! I think those types of crushes are SO funny in fiction. And also. Once again. They fit the autism x adhd dynamic except this time, they’re both high energy. Tackling as a love language. To me.
Obviously, all of this is just my personal opinion!!! I do not pretend to know these characters better than anybody else (except Jodie.) and this is just my interpretation of these ships :] if people have wildly different opinions I’d love to hear em as well, just be nice LOL
#I can’t tag these ships because putting either of the twin/nicky ships in the opposite tag? sacrilege#dndads#ask#babacontainsmultitudes#I WAS GONNA ANSWER THIS IN THE MORNING but my body pains are keeping me up. L#I almost talked about Morgan/Mercedes as well but restrained myself
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For the ship ask game hmmm... 😌 Well I already know you're not very into gothcleats but perhaps that one anyways! Otherwise... 😆 Ahaha can I ask a few?? How about hencedes, glennry, sparrow/nicky, and nark? No worries if you don't feel up for doing all of them! 💜
Hi, Bababird! Hope you're having a beautiful day 🖤🖤🖤 And yes ofc I can whip up some gothcleats for you! And the other ones!!! I am always willing to provide my silly little thoughts 😌
Alright (ha), as promised: gothcleats time!
Honestly? I don't mind it! I think there's a lot of fun parallels and intertwining themes to be found in their extant relationship, and I definitely enjoy looking at the cute fanart I've seen of them on occasion. I probably would ship it if my lesbian Scary hc wasn't so real to me! I would absolutely adore seeing them in a qpr though - I actually really like the idea of the teens all being in a qpr together. Nobody comes between Scary and her boys 😤😤😤 Nonetheless, Link and Scary have such an interesting dynamic and I feel like it's very much been a highlight over the past few episodes - I mean, Link breaking the anchor of love as an act of solidarity with Scary? Link refusing to let Scary go even as she Eldritch Blasts him? The genuine fear in Scary's voice when she thinks she might've killed Link??? It's so much, truly it is. I'm SO excited for whatever Matt and Beth have planned with their characters going forward, and while it's not my personal cup of tea romantically, I truly do love the gothcleats relationship!
Okay next up: Hencedes!
HENCEDES T4T BI4BI COUPLE OF ALL TIME!!!! NON-NEGOTIABLE!!! They are truly so much if I think about them too hard I will start crying!!! Everything about them is so fucking sweet and lovely and truly. Relationship goals fr!!! They're so strange and bizarre separately and even MORE strange and bizarre together and their devotion to each other is so so so very precious to me. Like. Their story makes me so unhinged actually I am so glad they exist. Mercedes really truly takes all of Henry's oddities in stride and he does the same for her,,, their cute little nicknames for each other,,, they would lay down their lives for each other without a second thought and I love them so much for that. I want nothing but happiness for them forever and ever and ever ok (looks pointedly at the current state of s2). I am a Hencedes stan first and a person second thank you <333
Okok next: Glennry!
In case you haven't realized. *Slaps "HUGE MULTISHIPPER" sticker on my forehead* like yourself, Baba, I also contain multitudes 😌 Anyway Glennry is SO fun to rotate around in my head, personally. I think they could learn quite a bit from each other as partners - with Glenn, Henry could get a bit more in touch with his rebellious side, and Henry could help Glenn in his struggles with emotional vulnerability. Their friendship works well as is in canon, obviously (well, s1 canon since we're not entirely sure what's going on with s2 Henry yet), but the potential of them as romantic partners is so great and so fun! They should kiss. For funsies. At least to piss off Bear Ry'Oak, if anything else <3
Up next: Sparrow/Nicky (/Spark/lovesong/highjinx/whatever other fun names exist for these two)!
And if I told you Spark was my latest obsession. What then. Literally I have been losing my mind over them for the past few days (thanks Nyx and Ivy <3) and I show no signs of regaining normalcy anytime soon!!! I just think there is SO much potential for exploring a romantic relationship between the two of them - or even something like a qpr, if you wanna go the Sparoace route! Literally could not get to sleep last night because I was thinking about them so hard. Similarly to Oakworthy, both Nick and Sparrow have such deep-seated issues regarding identity - Sparrow seems to define himself by being half of a matched set and doesn't really let himself be anything other than the Sparrow part of Lark-and-Sparrow. Nicky, of course, has. Gestures at the entire latter half of s1. And I think that if anyone can understand what either of them are going through, it's each other - and maybe they can just exist together. Without labels or expectations - not Nicholas, Jodie's son, or Sparrow, the more stable twin, or Nick, Glenn's son - just being Nicky and Sparrow and maybe also being in love. I also just think the imagery of it is wonderful - druid and demon, summer and winter, life and death, plant life and fire. Real Hades-and-Persephone type shit, which I personally love to see!
And lastly, finally, Nark!
So sorry to all the Nark stans out there but Sparrow/Nick has so thoroughly taken over my brain. I do love the idea of this ship - not only the aesthetics (hehe the demonic savior and the fallen angel), but the tragedy of it all - how the love may have been there, and in another world it may have been enough, but that world isn't this one. I have read many a Nark fic and I'd be hard-pressed to find one I didn't like, but it's not my go-to ship, personally. On another note, though, I do think Nark has some hilarious comedic potential as well - especially when paired with other ships like Sparrow/Cassandra (thank you tumblr user llumimoon for that particular piece of fanart - you know the one, I'm pretty sure you still have it pinned, Baba). But yeah! Fun ship - not my personal fave, but one that's very, very neat to pick apart and analyze!
Annnnnnnd I think that about wraps up my thoughts - for anyone who read this far, I'm giving you forehead kisses /p because that was A Lot. Thanks for the ask, Bababird!!! 🖤
#on an entirely separate note the 'i'm sending them to superhell' space is SO funny considering. superhell is a Canonical Place skjdbgkhsdbs#this was. very long. but yes i hope you enjoy baba!!! so many thoughts about all of these truly#thanks for the ask lovebird!!!#ask game#babacontainsmultitudes#dndads#gothcleats#hencedes#glennry#spark#lovesong#nark#ok i. think that's all the tags i need. phew!#happi rambles
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going to talk about it a little under the cut since i cant fucking help myself
i do think its not talked about enough w bi women in particular like its a very common experience discussed w lesbians and even to a degree w het women, but i think some ppl feel that bc bi women like all genders that by virtue of having more of a "choice" that we cant be severely negatively impacted by comphet.
ive known i was bi since i was 11, didnt come out til i was 14, and still felt genuinely honest to god DOOMED even into my 20s, that no matter how happy i could be with someone regardless of gender that it was inevitable and unavoidable: i would eventually be forced into a monogamous relationship with a cishet man, forced to abide by cisheteronormative gender roles and be a sahm, have kids i didnt want, be with a man i either wasnt attracted to or who didnt respect the entirety of my identity or autonomy. (i am monogamous, but when i was younger the idea of being Trapped with that man made me want to die so polyamory felt like the safest label to prevent the worst ending from happening)
and that because i was bisexual if i wanted to avoid that id have to choose otherwise - but for so long it didnt feel like i had a choice. id dated men, women, people who were both and neither, im engaged to another nonbinary person. it took years of being in this relationship for me to finally believe that i was safe and that it was sustainable and realistic for me to date someone who wasnt a cishet (or even simply cis) man. obviously a lot more goes into this for me, such as my identity as an indigenous person and being seen as the perpetual in between and conditionally acceptable to my family Gay Cousin; my family would be cool with me liking girls, as long as i didnt Love girls, marry girls, pick being with a woman over having a child with a man and settling down.
so i dated around a lot and dated people i liked and dated people i hated and entertained way too much shit from cishet dudes out of this weird internalized obligation to deny my identity and desires for my own future, to pursue an expression of my bisexuality that wasnt fulfilling and was actually deeply nauseating and traumatizing. its never been a question of whether or not i was attracted to men - i am, very much so, i dont even actually fall under the category of "bisexuals with a preference", its just matter of practice for me and the feeling of urgency behind settling down and trimming myself to fit a space that wasnt for me.
dating even a cis bisexual man wouldve been less of a death sentence - at least then i mightve had the chance of not feeling vaguely misgendered by my partner constantly, but then that comes with the stress of dating a cis man. the pressure of playing the perceived binary perisex "het passing" (disgusting, foul, biphobic, transphobic and frankly incorrect term) role of a wife and mother and an accessory to a man. pressured even within what wouldve been a bisexual relationship to perform to cisheteronormative standards. hate it.
anyways being t4t nb4nb bi4bi child free is a fucking gift. i want a hysterectomy
you could literally use me as the posterchild for bisexual comphet too like good lord.
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Aerith and tifa have the energy of being in a lesbian-centric semi-nonsexual throuple with them and cloud strife
#FFVII has got me feeling a certain type of way I 😭😭#I just finished chapter 9 and I was screaming through the whole thing#aerith and tifa and cloud are all bi4bi and t4t sorry I don’t make the rules :///////#is everything I say so annoying and cringy?#good thing I’m yelling into the void and no one else ever sees my test posts ever send tweet#anyway they don’t have sex with cloud as much as they have sex with each other but they do love him and he does live here and he is IN this#relationship
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