#anyway point is i dont believe in creatures of the void

[rohirric-hunter]

I see this argument a lot, about Ungoliant and other things, but as far as I can tell there's no real evidence of these "creatures of the void" actually existing in Tolkien's work. Or rather, every time they come up it turns out the thing in question is just another corrupted Maia or Fëa.

Ungoliant's origins are somewhat muddy in the Silmarillion, in that it states that the Elves don't know where she came from, but it does seem to say she came from outside the world. There's nothing outside the world except for the Ainur and presumably the Fëar before Eru sent them into the world. She's clearly not one of the latter, so she must be one of the former.

And I don't see why having a spark of the Flame Imperishable would exclude her from being able to create Unlight. In fact, I would argue that she would have to have it in order to make Unlight so potent; not having it would make her attempts to counteract it feeble at best.

Thinking of the larger context of LOTR and like, the fellowship swapping old war stories and shit and Sam just says “Yeah I killed a huge spider…Shelob, I think?”

And Gandalf just blinks and is like, “You what now?”

“Yeah, killed it. Had to save Frodo”

Gandalf elects not to tell Sam that he killed the spawn of a primordial demon.

[lungfishpoem]

Okay absolutely nonsense oc bullshit go

Tw: brother abuse, uh trauma I guess. Also a bit of body horror ish gore ish on the last bits of the text

We have technically two stages of post-Evan Pierre. One is a with-clock and the other one is without-clock. Why? Because uh he completely lost notion of time and listen it's a bunch of nonsense pretty much but he cannot do shit without staring at a clock for hours because he has no notion of time or memory without one. Without-clock Pierre is a void of a person. He doesn’t remember Evan to the point where he accidentally calls him "my sister" (no, nothing transgender here it's just his memory being fucked. Ps you dont want Evan as a transgender icon). The only things he knows in this state is whoever is his doctor (he counts time with doctor visits), flowers he had in his garden, his mother (who he writes letters to) and an angel he believes to be his only friend (any coincidences with irl me are on purpose and SHUT UP!!!) . He is stuck in an almost motionless state, reactionless and overall blank state of emotions n shit like he is just like this all the time 😐. Then his doctors decided to give him a clock (!!!) and ever since then he slowly starts regaining sense of time and starts to try and do things with a strict routine which helps him recover slowly. Then he starts remembering shit (according to him his angel tells him about it all). And oh boy doesn't he HATE Evan. He however is constantly in the AGONY of seeing himself being similar to his brother. The way he smiles, the way he talks and tries to coerce people into doing what he wants. Every time he realizes that he wants to kill himself essentially. He smiles more, though not completely genuine. He is a bit more obvious with his clock and angel obsessions too. Staring at the floor becomes staring at the time and counting seconds until the time hits a chore time (like eating food time). Anyways I'm bad at explaining stuff I'm better at writing the fuckers. But I won't write so soon so whatever. Oh isn't Pierre DELIGHTED to meet Ian when he discovers that Ian dated Evan. Like oohh is it my brothers fault youre here too? :) :) isnt that funnney :) :) anyways want to date ME I pinky promise to be awesome differently from my horrid brother (he isnt awesome he is also a horrible bf but dont tell him that otherwise he'll go mad because he was once again haunted by how similar he is to Evan)

If you want to know WHY he hates Evan so much it's essentially because Evan hurt him in MANY ways and managed to always SOMEHOW put the blame on Pierre himself. Also Pierre because of this constant abuse got so traumatized that he developed whatever is wrong with him and then Evan proceeded to prohibit Pierre to visit their mother (who he loved very much) because "it would be bad for her health to see you in this state". So Pierre can only talk to her via letters in which he pretends to be OK. I'm still deciding if Evan ever tried one of his little Playing God art experiments on Pierre but chances are that yes. But since Pierre is alive it means he managed to escape or make Evan stop whatever he was doing. (Context: Evan likes stealing bodies to sew and mold them into more beautiful creatures in his taste. Trying to see if he can invent something completely new and consider himself better than God Itself. Something super corny like that).

(These ocs are overall speaking very corny over the top bullshit. Dont get me started on Ian.)

[teeto-peteto]

Strange question, do you prefer when Star Guardians was more Sailor Moon or Madoka Magica? Or do you like both?

Oddly enough i prefer Sailor Moon.

Reason is that Riot keeps releasing skins (wich is not... bad, entirely) and those skins now need a plot/story. Point is that back when Lux team was the only one the skinline had, it was very Sailor Moon styled. They fight the baron, void creatures, they have silly school drama, lesbians, that's literally pretty much Sailor Moon. And it was great. Back on the day it was suggested that Janna, as she is the one that has been an star guardian for the longest time, has some secrets. Thats fine.

Then Ahri's team appeared, and it wasnt bad, either, but they started introducing a story that was more than just haha sparkles! And honestly, it was interesting! Problem is that, you back then realize 'Oh, no, this skinline is going to crash down in hell' cause now we have 3 mysterious star guardians that are dead/fallen/etc. Now Syndra exists, and its stated that she has dark secrets. Sarah is a lesbian (periodt and it has literally nothing to add to my point but regardless) and she has like conflict with Ahri so thats more school drama. This is kinda like when the Outer Senshi started to appear in Sailor Moon and they got added to the original team in a lot of the episodes? well.

Then Neeko, Zoe and Xayah/Rakan released. And oh man things were so good but everything started to crash eventually. Now we have the concept that star guardians can be corrupted! By desesperation/death/whatever. Do you guys remember when Janna said she had secrets? At this point in the lore, who the fuck cares about Janna??????? Who cares about the Lux team? What do they do? Do they just rescue kitties from trees while Ahri shows up like 'ok i can handle the sassy kid and my corrupted best friends with my chameleon bestie'.

Okay, the Kai'sa gang is what killed me and made me loose the focus on the story. I have opinions, and that is that i just think community has done a lot to make star guardian entretaining because i didnt understand half of the story on the event. Lux is dead or smth cause she has an statue, and i readed that and i just said 'Whatever' cause Lux dying is so meaningless to the plot. We literally know nothing about her in recent years, there's literally nothing to say 'omg i cant believe this happened'. They just say well Lux is dead. Well what about Jinx?? Lulu?? Poppy?? Janna??????? I hate Ezreal with my guts but that dude isnt like affected??? Where IS the people?!??! Completely understand that they added A LOT of characters to the story line but come on you cant just said 'oops she died, anyway here's Kaisa talking to a stone LOL'. I didnt get the villains and the corruption. The Harp being Fiddlesticks was like woah! Thats cool. Why is Zoe just Zoe but purple then? Why is Morgana purple then? Why are they sassy?????? I mean okay there are great villains that are sassy. these arent.

Okay i dont want to rip the lore apart. Thats what sentinels of light are for. they are my punching bag and i dont regret it. This is just what happens when you're a capitalist and you try to keep people interested but you keep stepping over your own story and messing it up just for the sake of adding more characters. If this was just Sailor Moon then we could have as many skins as we wanted without trouble and sassy villains! But i get the story keeps people interested, i cant blame aanyone and im happy they like it! I love what community has done for Star Guardian cause it what keeps my interest rather than the canon, keep writing keep creating cause im watching.

good thing Everything Goes On was released cause i wasnt understanding half of the story and put it to sleep but i went heheee this song is soooooo coooool.

[pankomako]

real quick hot take since im being forced to think about it rn: the theories of evolution/the big bang and biblical creation can coexist.

for the record, i am an agnostic. i don't subscribe to any particular religious belief, but im willing to cite biblical sources to support my arguments if i must. i was raised christian and still live in a christian home, my dad being an elder of the church my family attends, so i do know quite a bit of biblical stuff. anyway, allow me to elaborate on my point:

sometime last year i read an article mentioning that the big bang could have been the product of the ever-famous "God said 'Let there be light'". like consider this: explosions are generally very bright. what do you imagine when you hear "the big bang"? i personally see a big explosion of light in a dark void. what if that was God speaking light into existence? of course everything after that is up to interpretation. my dad loves to use the argument that explosions create chaos and not order. but i think it's possible that after the Big Bang of Light, God started to create everything else as the classic 7-day process was written. all the galaxies and what-have-you may not necessarily be a direct result of the explosion.

as for evolution, sure, maybe God did create every living creature. but does that really mean that evolution hasnt also happened? i dont see why evolution couldn't be a thing that was influenced by God's hand. last school year i had to do quite a bit of research relating to this topic, and its honestly so funny how obnoxiously... egotistical? christian scientists are about evidence thats seemingly against evolution. theyre really like "oh??? this funny little fossil you found turned out to NOT be a part of an evolutionary chain?? oh too bad for you!!! look at how WRONG you were!! ha!! they were WRONG!! that means we are RIGHT about EVERYTHING!! look at how RIGHT we are!!! get stuffed sssECHKularr scientists!!! LOL" like no seriously look at a few answers in genesis articles and youll see what i mean, although my portrayal was very much exaggerated. anyway, one argument ive heard is that there are no fossils of intermediate species. but for one thing, just because they havent found any doesnt mean they arent there. for another thing, just because theres no evidence doesnt mean it didnt happen. i guess creationists have a sort of "pics or it didnt happen" attitude about evolution. but theres still existing evidence for evolution too, like how whales have these tiny useless leg bones. why are they there if theyre not doing anything? most likely a byproduct of evolution. ive heard my dad use a similar argument recently about our appendix. "if it doesn't do anything, why hasn't it evolved out of us?" more recently ive heard that the appendix actually DOES have a use. so. that's why. people say that God is perfect, and i imagine they also think everything God makes is perfect too. but evolution doesn't mean that previous species in the evolutionary chain weren't perfect, it's simply just certain genetic traits becoming more common in a species over time, until it becomes an entirely new species much different from the previous one. a lot of societal changes occurred between the first and last books of the bible, yeah? those events were guided by God. i don't see why that can't coexist with evolution. (also consider domesticated dogs. with the variation in breeds its hard to believe theyre the same species. also consider pet dogs vs wolves. pet dogs are their own species, yeah? they descended from wild dogs/wolves that people tamed, right? aint that just manmade evolution?)

im by no means an expert on any of these topics at all, but i figured i may as well write my thoughts down while they're still in my head. that said, i dont really like to post about this stuff, but it's like that one link picture - it's my blog and i get to post whatever essays i feel like lol

[comfortfrogblog]

hi :). I'm just here bc I'm having a bit of religious crisis. I'm a 16 y.o girl (like you). I was raised in a Catholic Church, but my mom is actually orthodox (long story). anyway, my mom decided in 2021 that we were going to start going to Orthodox Church, and I agreed bc I didn't really have another choice.

I never really prayed a lot. I think I used to believe in God in a sort of lazy way - I never really prayed or thanked Him, and I was just kind of passive in my belief, if that makes sense. recently, I haven't been doing very well at all mentally, and I kind of just stopped believing in God. I think this was partly brought on by the fact that the orthodox church has some shitty rules (divorce=bad, gay=bad, abortion=bad, etc), and I didn't want to be a part of something that encouraged that kind of exclusivity. I also just don't have a good home life at all - I've always been very lonely, and it just seems like there's a lot of pain in the world, and a lot of bad people that just keep on living. I know I'm just making excuses here, but what I'm trying to say is that I want to believe that God exists, I really do, but I just can't. when I try to pray, I just feel like I'm screaming into a great apathetic black void. my question is, have you ever had a religious crisis like this? and if you have, could you explain how you overcame it? thank you so much. your blog is wonderful :)

ahhh absolutely—im going through one right now lol. in fact, i’d say im constantly going through a religious crisis of sorts. sometimes i dont know whether i should even be allowed to call myself a christian if i struggle this much, but i’ve kind of figured out that struggling is actually the point.

we can never be perfect in our faith. even the most faithful and religious people you know have their flaws and stray from god every single day—we are sinful in nature. but christ paid for our sins with his blood so that we could have eternity with the lord, so that we may be forgiven, so that we may experience the greatest love that there is. im still struggling with this concept—the fact that there is a god who loves us so much that he sent his son to us, and this man died for us. he was crucified and tortured so that we may be saved. jesus was a real person—the most perfect person to ever exist. the savior, the king, the servant.

but i dont deserve that, i tell myself. and im right, actually. none of us deserved it. none of us deserve to be saved, none of us actually deserve to have good things. but that is the point, isn’t it? that god is so merciful he sent his son to die for us, when we never deserved it in the first place? he wants to be with us and have a relationship with us so much that he would forgive our sins and welcome us home. it is because of christ that we are saved and forgiven—not because of our inherent goodness. we have inherent value, but we are not inherently good. christ is the ultimate love, the ultimate good, the ultimate and overarching and sovereign king. so we do not have to grieve over being undeserving; instead, we can rejoice that he provides for us and loves us regardless.

christianity is not easy. it’s not supposed to be—we are called to take up our own crosses and follow jesus. we suffer, we struggle, we hurt, we cry out, we question. it is good to question—we are curious creatures, and it is natural that we long to know the god who loves us. ask, wonder, question. it is okay to go through periods of rocky faith—every single christian that has ever lived has been through the same problem.

but even in our darkest times, when we feel we cannot hear the lord and we think he has forsaken us, he has not. he is crying out for you. he wants you to come running to him. he will always provide for you, and he will always make a way. i have to say that what you said about feeling like you’re crying out into a black void struck me deep—i’ve often thought the same exact thing. but i’ve seen it in the lives of those around me that the more that you try, the more you question, the more you want, the closer you come to seeing what God wants you to see.

and if it’s worth anything, the deepest and most heart-wrenching sentiment i’ve felt my whole life is that of wanting to want him. i want to want to believe, but i still feel the indifference in my heart. i think the answer is to keep trying, keep praying; reach out to people you trust who can give you guidance. the desires of your heart will reflect in your actions—if you really, really want to believe, stop running away. you might not even know you’re running away. we often think we’re the ones chasing God, but the truth is that he is chasing after you. he loves you and wants to be in relationship with you.

[internetdetectives]

12/2/19 - Chat with The Producer

The Producer 10:25 AM: "welp”

The Producer 10:25 AM: "here i am again”

The Producer 10:25 AM: "is this getting repetitive”

The Producer 10:25 AM: "i feel like this is getting repetitive”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:26 AM: "Welcome to the ID feeling”

The Producer 10:28 AM: "so much talking as of late”

The Producer 10:28 AM: "unfortunately it will have to make do until my masterpiece is complete”

The Producer 10:28 AM: "along with whatever else accompanies it”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:34 AM: "Oh yeah that magnum opus”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:34 AM: "You wanna see mine?”

The Producer 10:35 AM: "against my better judgement”

The Producer 10:35 AM: "sure”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:35 AM: "https://youtu.be/QJjd9UPSULM”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:35 AM: "That's my finest piece of art”

The Producer 10:35 AM: "sweet dancing douglas”

The Producer 10:35 AM: "he and kelbris really stole the spotlight away from the other two didnt they”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:36 AM: "Other two?”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:36 AM: "Oh”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:36 AM: "Yeah lol”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:36 AM: "Those two nerds”

The Producer 10:37 AM: "if only i could prolong the cycle”

The Producer 10:37 AM: "ad infinitum”

The Producer 10:37 AM: "maybe then we could see spencer groovin to some tunes too”

The Producer 10:37 AM: "or alex hall of fame”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:39 AM: "Alex hall of fame is a thing I need to see”

The Producer 10:40 AM: "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u34xC5o-Un8”

The Producer 10:40 AM: "enjoy”

The Producer 10:40 AM: "but be warned”

The Producer 10:40 AM: "this video contains substantial power”

The Producer 10:40 AM: "it might be too much to bare”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:47 AM: ":okay:”

The Producer 10:48 AM: "so”

The Producer 10:48 AM: "im assuming all lingering questions have now been cleared up”

The Producer 10:48 AM: "no more mysteries or loose threads”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:49 AM: "TF u mean”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:49 AM: "That's literally the opposite of how we are now”

The Producer 10:49 AM: "does this mythical video not answer everything?”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:49 AM: "I mean”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:49 AM: "It does”

The Producer 10:49 AM: "what confuses you in this moment”

otherLiam 10:49 AM: "What, you want a list?”

The Producer 10:50 AM: "sure”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:50 AM: "Nah liam”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:50 AM: "Now that I think of it”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:50 AM: "Everything is fine :jack_o_lantern:”

The Producer 10:50 AM: "ok”

The Producer 10:50 AM: "good to hear”

The Producer 10:50 AM: "well bye”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:50 AM: "Jk jk”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:50 AM: "Don't go prod”

The Producer 10:50 AM: "im kiddign”

The Producer 10:50 AM: "these are confusing times”

The Producer 10:50 AM: "a major shift is occurring”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:51 AM: "how is that beat you are producing going”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:51 AM: "Dropp it already it's firee :fire: :fire:”

Jos 10:51 AM: "Hey hi”

Jos 10:51 AM: "Hello”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:51 AM: "Hewwo”

Jos 10:52 AM: "Welcome”

Jos 10:52 AM: "To city 17”

otherLiam 10:52 AM: "For starters, we’re pretty fucking confused by you BUP bois. We’re pretty confused by the entire structure of how many timelines we’re dealing with. We aren’t certain exactly which Tyler or how many Tylers we’ve interacted with in the past. We aren’t even really sure what we did years ago when we went back in time and voted to kill.”

otherLiam 10:52 AM: "It’s hard to figure anything out when we have such a shaky foundation to work with )’:”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:52 AM: ":funkyfinger: :regi:”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:52 AM: "This nigga is hilarious”

The Producer 10:53 AM: "well, i can answer a few things”

Jos 10:53 AM: "Maybe its all a dream”

Jos 10:53 AM: "Jk”

The Producer 10:53 AM: "maybe”

otherLiam 10:53 AM: "Oh and also apparently we gotta learn magic now.”

The Producer 10:53 AM: "technically speaking, there are an infinite number of timelines”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:53 AM: "AND RUNES”

The Producer 10:53 AM: "i believe you witnessed this during the whole youshouldnthavedonethat fiasco”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:53 AM: "like we didn't know rune numbers where a thing until likw”

0h look! Its karkat! 10:53 AM: "Uh”

The Producer 10:53 AM: "of course only a few are so vital”

Jos 10:53 AM: "Wait so there is a timeline where my waifu exist”

The Producer 10:54 AM: "yes”

Jos 10:54 AM: "Im willing to follow this path”

The Producer 10:54 AM: "runes aren't really my department”

The Producer 10:54 AM: "also there are indeed many tylers”

The Producer 10:54 AM: "another thing seen during the confusing shit in 2016”

The Producer 10:54 AM: "im not sure how much detail i can go into on that”

The Producer 10:54 AM: "what exactly are you confused about”

otherLiam 10:55 AM: "So there’s our Tyler. And theoretically there’s also a Tyler in the AO timeline, or was.”

The Producer 10:55 AM: "yes”

otherLiam 10:56 AM: "But there’s sort of a split between us where we think that we’ve talked with other ones from other timelines.”

otherLiam 10:56 AM: "Like one that is trying to convince us all this is a game.”

otherLiam 10:56 AM: "One where all this actually is a game.”

The Producer 10:57 AM: "thats some dangerous territory there”

The Producer 10:57 AM: "indeed there is a tyler from your timeline and a tyler from the astral timeline”

The Producer 10:57 AM: "i dont really think im at liberty to say much more than that”

The Producer 10:57 AM: "there are more tylers”

The Producer 10:57 AM: "that much i can say”

The Producer 10:57 AM: "this really isnt new information, however”

The Producer 10:57 AM: "of course there will be more tylers - infinite timelines”

otherLiam 10:58 AM: "But you can’t tell us how many we’ve interacted with?”

ADULT_LINK△ 10:58 AM: "are any others relevant at al”

Jos 10:59 AM: "Okay so my little theory”

The Producer 10:59 AM: "can't say, sorry”

The Producer 10:59 AM: "more than two”

Jos 10:59 AM: "There is a third timeline where they are storing the tylers”

otherLiam 10:59 AM: "Well that’s actually useful.”

otherLiam 10:59 AM: "Thanks.”

otherLiam 10:59 AM: "Let’s change subject so we don’t get you in trouble”

Jos 11:00 AM: "Hows the weather over there?”

The Producer 11:00 AM: "oh jeez oh boy -pulls on collar-”

The Producer 11:00 AM: "the weather is fine”

otherLiam 11:00 AM: "I meant to another topic we’re confused on lol”

The Producer 11:00 AM: "a bit cold”

The Producer 11:00 AM: "a tiddle bit nipply”

otherLiam 11:01 AM: "Awhile back, we gained access to a “kill switch”. Can you tell us what effect using it actually had?”

0h look! Its karkat! 11:01 AM: "Fuck you know that feeling when you drink the air freshener”

Jos 11:01 AM: "A great while back”

ADULT_LINK△ 11:01 AM: "kill”

0h look! Its karkat! 11:01 AM: "That's me rn”

The Producer 11:01 AM: "Kill?”

0h look! Its karkat! 11:01 AM: "Yes”

ADULT_LINK△ 11:02 AM: "sl”

ADULT_LINK△ 11:02 AM: "slinky what”

0h look! Its karkat! 11:02 AM: "What”

0h look! Its karkat! 11:02 AM: "OH SHIT”

otherLiam 11:02 AM: "slink bless”

0h look! Its karkat! 11:02 AM: "YO PROD DONT TAKE THAT AS AN ACTUAL MOVEMENT JUST AS A MEME”

0h look! Its karkat! 11:02 AM: "DONT KILL ANYONE”

otherLiam 11:03 AM: "i aint even mas”

ADULT_LINK△ 11:03 AM: "slinky”

otherLiam 11:03 AM: "mad”

ADULT_LINK△ 11:03 AM: "thats not even the what”

otherLiam 11:03 AM: "this is just expected”

0h look! Its karkat! 11:03 AM: "Then what is the what”

ADULT_LINK△ 11:03 AM: "what the fuck do you mean drink the air freshener”

0h look! Its karkat! 11:03 AM: "You guys don't do it?”

otherLiam 11:03 AM: "what, you don’t, thorin?”

Jos 11:04 AM: "I do all the time”

ADULT_LINK△ 11:04 AM: "?????????”

otherLiam 11:04 AM: "it’s tasty.”

Jos 11:04 AM: "In fact”

Jos 11:04 AM: "Im doing it right now”

The Producer 11:04 AM: "are you ok slinky”

otherLiam 11:04 AM: "He thinks your meme actually killed someone.”

The Producer 11:04 AM: "no”

otherLiam 11:04 AM: "He’s used to accidentally fucking up.”

The Producer 11:04 AM: "i dont really have the power to kill”

The Producer 11:04 AM: "well i guess i do as much as you or anyone else”

The Producer 11:04 AM: "but not on the level of someone say like BUP”

The Producer 11:04 AM: "he likes to flex”

0h look! Its karkat! 11:05 AM: "So can you kill if you want”

The Producer 11:05 AM: "i mean anyone can kill if they want”

0h look! Its karkat! 11:05 AM: "But like not like Thanos just like a human”

The Producer 11:05 AM: "like just grabbing a gun”

Jos 11:05 AM: "You can always take a look out of the void and buy a sniper rifle”

The Producer 11:05 AM: "but i cant like retroactively create the death for someone else”

The Producer 11:05 AM: "but anyway”

The Producer 11:05 AM: "the kill switch”

The Producer 11:05 AM: "ill quote a nice old man”

The Producer 11:05 AM: "”Will you "turn off the power" so to speak. Will you kill it?. That poor amalgamation of a soul. That sick creature trying to control it for her will. Ben. Tyler. BEN. Mr.D also works. It was one title it went under.””

The Producer 11:05 AM: "even i dont fully understand the kill switch”

The Producer 11:05 AM: "but it did two things”

The Producer 11:05 AM: "temporarily cut luna off from our realm”

Jos 11:06 AM: "It create multiple timelines”

The Producer 11:06 AM: "and "killed" mr d”

Jos 11:06 AM: "Each kill switch”

Jos 11:06 AM: "2 decisions”

Jos 11:06 AM: "2 timelines each”

otherLiam 11:06 AM: "why is “killed” in quotes?”

The Producer 11:06 AM: "its hard to "kill" tenebris”

The Producer 11:06 AM: "”Rem - Kayd H.Can you really be sure that killing It will make it stop though?””

0h look! Its karkat! 11:07 AM: "Well then”

0h look! Its karkat! 11:07 AM: "Yo this special kind of air freshener tastes funny”

otherLiam 11:08 AM: "Tenebris is a zombie, confirmed.”

0h look! Its karkat! 11:08 AM: "More metallic like”

The Producer 11:08 AM: "its more like tenebris's current formation in that point in time was disrupted”

The Producer 11:08 AM: "the amalgamation died but the idea and entity persevered”

The Producer 11:08 AM: "again, to my understanding”

The Producer 11:08 AM: "he controls the giants”

Jos 11:09 AM: "So uh, guahs, what happens when you say yes or no?”

otherLiam 11:09 AM: "So all we did was unfuse those three.”

Jos 11:09 AM: "Guys*”

The Producer 11:09 AM: "after the kill switch was activated, they all dispersed and luna's summoning was halted”

0h look! Its karkat! 11:09 AM: "dispersed”

The Producer 11:10 AM: "i mean they did all disappear one at a time from the page”

The Producer 11:10 AM: "until kelbris gave his farewell speech”

otherLiam 11:10 AM: "Well... that seems like a useful thing to have on hand. Any chance we can get another one?”

The Producer 11:10 AM: "in his brief moment of clarity”

The Producer 11:10 AM: "I don't understand the full nature of the kill switch”

The Producer 11:10 AM: "I dont think its something you can simply replicate, though”

The Producer 11:10 AM: "things were going to be a lot more complicated back then”

The Producer 11:10 AM: "but from what i understand, times were tough”

The Producer 11:10 AM: "and what we saw is what we got”

The Producer 11:10 AM: "and right now”

The Producer 11:10 AM: "multiple forces are attacking from multiple angles”

The Producer 11:10 AM: "from different times and different places”

The Producer 11:10 AM: "but uh yeah”

Jos 11:12 AM: "Aaaah”

Jos 11:12 AM: "Temporal war”

Jos 11:12 AM: "I like it”

The Producer 11:12 AM: "thats what the kill switch did”

The Producer 11:12 AM: "fucked up tenebris and stopped luna for a bit”

Jos 11:12 AM: "I choose the title of time warlord”

The Producer 11:12 AM: "probably had more ramifications from that later down the line”

otherLiam 11:12 AM: "Well that’s useful.”

The Producer 11:13 AM: "i might have spoken too much about it but its ben a point of contention for a while now so fuck it”

otherLiam 11:13 AM: "Thanks, bruh.”

otherLiam 11:13 AM: "Helps a lot.”

The Producer 11:14 AM: "im happy to give out this information but it sickens me to do it in such a mundane way”

The Producer 11:14 AM: "feels”

The Producer 11:14 AM: "anticlimactic”

otherLiam 11:14 AM: "I mean you can always like... cipher it?”

The Producer 11:14 AM: "busywork”

otherLiam 11:14 AM: "You say we’re under attack from multiple factions. Are you BUP bois one of them? Cus like... this is a pretty weird attack.”

The Producer 11:14 AM: "there will be plenty of that later”

The Producer 11:14 AM: "each one of us kinda has our own thing going on while working towards one singular goal”

otherLiam 11:15 AM: "I get the feeling some pretty “climactic” shit is in the works. Clearing up past confusion doesn’t have to be an epic.”

ADULT_LINK△ 11:15 AM: "plenty of attacking?”

The Producer 11:15 AM: "if BUP chooses to attack then thats on him”

pakospooky 11:15 AM: "bup”

The Producer 11:15 AM: "plenty of ciphering”

The Producer 11:15 AM: "i meant”

ADULT_LINK△ 11:15 AM: ":BUP:”

otherLiam 11:15 AM: "So yall aren’t really one unified faction, just sort of a collective of individuals?”

The Producer 11:15 AM: "we are”

The Producer 11:15 AM: "The Collective”

pakospooky 11:15 AM: ":hando: BUP :hand:”

The Producer 11:16 AM: ":slendy:”

Jos 11:16 AM: "Lower your shields”

Jos 11:16 AM: "And prepare for assimilation”

Jos 11:16 AM: "Your culture will adapt to us”

The Producer 11:16 AM: "speaking of, i wasnt being literal with "the operator"”

otherLiam 11:16 AM: "Dude I’ll assimilate, y’all are way more fun.”

The Producer 11:16 AM: "that was just a reference”

The Producer 11:16 AM: "but apparently it does have some meaning as well?”

otherLiam 11:16 AM: "we out here borgin’”

The Producer 11:16 AM: "unintentional on my part”

Jos 11:17 AM: "Yeah, the Borg from star trek”

pakospooky 11:17 AM: "operator was mattR?”

The Producer 11:17 AM: "he went by that, yeah”

The Producer 11:17 AM: "i guess he wanted an epic codename”

otherLiam 11:17 AM: "i mean that’d be silly, having some kind of pseudonym right”

The Producer 11:18 AM: "yeah what kind of loser”

The Producer 11:18 AM: "he always did enjoy having a variety of names”

The Producer 11:18 AM: "Matt R”

The Producer 11:18 AM: "Ifrit”

The Producer 11:18 AM: "Rodney”

The Producer 11:18 AM: "I believe he's going by a new one now”

The Producer 11:18 AM: "but I can't be certain”

otherLiam 11:19 AM: "so your job is to “produce” stuff. Are you like, freelance, or are you under exclusive contract with BUP?”

The Producer 11:20 AM: "im the producer”

The Producer 11:20 AM: "i producer”

The Producer 11:20 AM: "and i love it”

The Producer 11:20 AM: "i love it so much”

pakospooky 11:20 AM: "what you produce”

The Producer 11:20 AM: "things”

otherLiam 11:20 AM: "Alright then. What’re your rates?”

pakospooky 11:20 AM: "weird things?”

The Producer 11:20 AM: "i dont charge but i only take jobs im interested in”

otherLiam 11:20 AM: "What does a spooky extraplanar producer take as a currency?”

The Producer 11:21 AM: "dogecoin”

otherLiam 11:21 AM: "yall would use crypto”

otherLiam 11:21 AM: "Would you produce things for us if we came up with something interesting?”

The Producer 11:22 AM: "uhhh maybe”

The Producer 11:24 AM: "alright im gonna pull a classic move”

ADULT_LINK△ 11:24 AM: "didnt dogecoin tank to the point of worthlessness?”

The Producer 11:24 AM: ""one more question then im outta here"”

otherLiam 11:24 AM: "A gamer move, even.”

The Producer 11:24 AM: "yes”

ADULT_LINK△ 11:24 AM: "and/or was that one of the other bajillion cryptocurrencies”

The Producer 11:24 AM: "next queshtown”

otherLiam 11:24 AM: "Aight someone else ask it, I’ve been hogging him.”

The Producer 11:24 AM: "also im not too familiar with cryptocurrencies tbh ptobably a lot”

The Producer 11:26 AM: "better hurry im almost done with my morning joe”

The Producer 11:26 AM: "https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/453323274496245764/651096797464363034/unknown.png”

otherLiam 11:27 AM: "...really? nobody else has a question?”

The Producer 11:27 AM: "im glad all of you questions have been answered”

ADULT_LINK△ 11:27 AM: "i've been trying to sleep for the pats like”

ADULT_LINK△ 11:27 AM: "5 hours”

otherLiam 11:27 AM: "hard oof”

ADULT_LINK△ 11:27 AM: "maybe 4”

The Producer 11:27 AM: "damn”

The Producer 11:27 AM: "someone play gorons lullaby”

ADULT_LINK△ 11:28 AM: "its 8:30 AM: " somehow so”

otherLiam 11:28 AM: "Okay, fine, I have a question. Is there anything you think we should be doing, other than just waiting?”

The Producer 11:28 AM: "currently, no”

pakospooky 11:29 AM: "here in Spain is the 5:30 PM”

The Producer 11:29 AM: "unfortunately all you can do now is wait”

The Producer 11:29 AM: "and chat with interesting people over Discord”

The Producer 11:29 AM: "kinda boring”

The Producer 11:29 AM: "but hey thats what we got right now”

otherLiam 11:29 AM: "Wouldn’t say boring.”