#anyway not to totally derail but boy. Louis would be a great candidate for like.... those groups aimed at people
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He cannot be the same man unfollowing mason greenwood and firing jordan green within days of the accusation coming out lol now that its liam he suddenly deems everything ok it seems
I'm sorry if you don't see a difference between how you treat a celebrity you don't know who repeatedly brutally raped and beat their partner while threatening their life, or an employee who serially engaged in predatory premeditated grooming and rape of multiple minors VS how you deal with a situation with a friend who, yes, committed emotional partner abuse, both by being clueless about the impact of their actions and by directly manipulating and pressuring their partner.
But I don't actually think the solution to a friend doing problematic things is necessarily to say "ah well, we had a nice run but you're dead to me now" rather than attempt to help them be better (which can in fact look like/ mean supporting them) although yes, I am aware that in that I differ from the bulk of people driving online discourse culture. We don't know for a fact that that's what Louis does! But we don't know it isn't either, and I personally do feel that there might be grounds for hope that the man who unfollowed Mason Greenwood and fired Jordan Green and tried again and again to singlehandedly put Anthony Russell in a better place, as well as various other people in his personal life struggling with addiction issues, including Liam himself for years now, might in fact care and have something to say to his friend about it all (over the last months and years one assumes, since unlike us he's had a front row seat to this whole situation all along). And yeah, about that... you do know that Louis has to have known about all this since long before yesterday right? And yet the suggestion seems to be that it becoming public knowledge should be the breaking point... like in the named situations above, them becoming public was relevant because he found out at the same time as us! If I believed Louis knew what JG was doing and that he only fired him because we found out I would NOT be here, yk? But no way is that the situation here, like hell I assume him and Liam were on the phone for hours at a time with Liam drunkenly freaking out like I can't raise a fucking kid! So I told her... blah blah blah... etc.
#nothing that happened between Liam and Maya was in any way okay and some of us have known that since long before these new details#but yeah- I do think the guys named here are basically irredeemable sociopaths. And I personally do not think the situation with liam#is the same as that#I know I'm going to regret getting sucked into this particular tarpit of discourse... obviously#but the only way I know to deal with the nonexistent reading comprehension on this site/ the internet#is to simply ignore all that and post for/ engage with the people who are actually capable of reading and of rational discussion#LiYa discourse#tw rape#tw domestic violence#blah blah blah#anyway not to totally derail but boy. Louis would be a great candidate for like.... those groups aimed at people#who have issues around codependence and trying to save everyone and feeling responsible#as a result of being close to people with addiction issues and... well . yeah.#๐
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