#anyway in case it wasn't clear: my recommendation is read a summary of the dark world/ragnarok and watch/read about the scene in iw
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asterdeer · 4 years ago
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i think i saw one or two of the thor movies when i was like 10, but that’s my only experience of loki as a character. can i watch the new show? do i need background info? xo
ooh interesting question. my gut instinct would be "no" but i also am unceasingly flabbergasted by people who read book series out of order no matter how many times i find out they do, so i'm biased! i love CONTEXT
the first episode DOES include its own little highlight reel of loki's key movie moments, so it comes ready-made with a refresher. (d+ also has a legends episode for him, but it's not presented in chronological order, so idk how helpful that would be, unless you can differentiate the movies by which Terrible Wig tom hiddleston is subjected to, and it's not worth pirating if that's your route).
i think thor and the dark world are the most important movies in terms of loki's character development - a lot of what he gets in ragnarok is SO fun but not crucial, and he's used as a pretty baseline "bring the team together" villain in avengers. and ofc he dies in the first 10/15 minutes of infinity war which is. very important but can be experienced on youtube rather than having to watch a whole movie.
STEP ONE: BE CONCISE. STEP ONE FAILED. anyway. not to contradict myself but all that to say, i think it'd be possible to enjoy the show without having all the movie context? or at least without watching the movies. (that's kind of the situation loki is in himself lmao.) this loki is the one from the end of the first avengers movie, so that's where his characterization comes from, not from the later ones. i'd actually be really interested to see what someone thought about it without all the movie context! i'm not sure how much you would get out of it, but i do think that, at the very least, the performances are fun, the concepts are cool, and the story is going somewhere that feels exciting! and it's loki. he's good.
TLDR i'm not going to discourage anyone from consuming Loki Content, have at it, report back to me with your reactions!! i would recommend watching... hmmmmmm the Elevator Scene from ragnarok and loki's death scene from infinity war (it's pretty rough for an mcu movie imho, if you're not feeling up for that just a summary would be fine). the first is a key moment in the thor&loki relationship and the last is... obvious. these both get brought up in the highlight reel in the first loki episode anyway but they're good scenes!
+ also i'm sure there are summaries/rundowns that would give an outline of what loki was up to in the other movies, and youtube clips are a godsend. most of loki's scenes per movie fit in a single youtube video anyway
+ this is going to sound wild but if you like music videos, about half of all loki amvs is basically a (sometimes chronological!) examination of his character arc so that could be a fun 3.5 minute option
+ i am ALWAYS willing to talk more about loki as evidenced by the TOWER OF TERROR that is the response to this message. i'm so sorry please forgive me they're trying to find my shut-up-about-loki button is but science has no answers thus far. i am NOT scripting my own summary of loki-centric events as we speak why would you ask.
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dragonmuse · 2 years ago
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This proves, once again, that I cannot do anything without a firm deadline (or two). A bout of covid in summer and a couple of long road trips and train rides meant I got through many more audio books than I usually would. So I'll limit myself to my favourites here and give a short teaser each instead. Just because I really want to. Hope that's alright.
To Night Owl from Dogfish by Holly Goldberg Sloan and Meg Wolitzer. Avery and Bett are both 12 years old and live with single gay dads. That's excactly everything they have in common. Otherwise they couldn't be more different. Only now their dads have decided to fall in love and to send the girls to the same summer camp so they can get to know each others as "new sisters". This cannot stand! A reverse Parent Trap, if you will. Utterly hilarious and very heartfelt. Also the most realistic 12yo I've come across in fiction ever, I think.
The Strange Case of the Alchemist's Daughter by Theodora Goss (Part 1 of the Athena Club series). When Mary Jekyll's Mother dies, Mary is left with no family, a lot of debt and a household staff she'll have to let go. When she comes into possession of a bank statement in the name of "Hyde" she is reminded of the cruel Mr Hyde who used to work for her late father and the high reward set for his apprehension. So, as one does when faced with mystery in Victorian London, she enlists the help of one Mr Holmes and the good Doctor Watson. You know how in gothic literature women are usually sidelined to wives, daughters, victims or monsters? Well, this is their story. And by "their" I actually mean "all of them"'s story. Readers of "Dracula Daily" will also encounter familiar names, especially in the second book. Brilliant, brilliant series!
The Fetch Philips series by Luke Arnold (of Black Sails fame), starting with The Last Smile of Sunder City. My current obsession. Detective noir novel set in an urban fantasy setting with a twist. Very cool world building and character development.
Identitti by Mithu Sanyal (translated from German by Altal Price) Nivedita's life is turned upside down when superstar postcolonial and race studies South-Asian professor Saraswati - her supervisor, mentor, idol and crush - is discovered to be actually… white. One of the most brilliant books I'v ever read, I think. A very, very darkly funny take on identity, race, academia and finding a place in the world. It makes you constantly go "Come on, the case is crystal clear now!", only to make you go "Huh. Or not." two pages later. You will also learn A LOT.
Now.. saving the best for last. Stories Beneath our Skin by Veronica Sloane. I will not give a summary here, because that simply feels too weird. But I loved it so damn much! This was my comfort while I was in bed with covid for over week. The found family dynamic reminded me quite a bit of Becky Chambers' books, and I mean that as the highest praise. I listened to it before Smut Nights became a thing so I was a bit suprised by the steamier bits, but that is in no way a complain ;) Can recommend it highly to anyone following you here!
Thank you for this reading program! It was a lot of fun! And thank you, just, for everything I guess!
omg omg you read my novel? I am torn between joy and wanting to hide under the bed. Just as a note to anyone who reads it now, please know I don't think it's cool for white guys to have dreads. It was really ridiculous that I wasn't aware of that in 2013.
I actually HAD to write the smut bits back then because the press (now defunct, hence it being self-published at this point and quite messy) required a certain steam level for novels.
AND MY MOTHER READ IT. She called me her 'little pornographer'. Truly a dark day.
But uh, being compared to Becky Chambers makes me want to ugly sob because I love all of her books very deeply, thank you.
And I love all of your reviews, my TBR list is now longer!
ANYWAY, please excuse me experiencing all my emotions at once, on to
YOUR POEM:
I wish I were a bonsai tree
so carefully tended
to be coaxed and trimmed
taking on a perfect shape
Would that I could give such peace
just by growing my tiny leaves
and reaching for the light
To be loved like that
for myself alone and the things
we make together
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