#anyway i saw a post here comparing Finest Kind with Out Of The Furnace and NO ABSOLUTELY NOT lmaoooo jfc

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In Out Of The Furnace, the specifics of Woody Harrelson's character and his scene were a bit random, though - i'm glad they'd edited out the more direct (and obviously misleading) references to the Ramapough Lenape Nation in the version I saw. (Except the surnames that 'happen to be' very common among the nation.)

it seems that part was unfortunately partly inspired by some racist made up stories in a real life murder case (an unarmed Ramapough tribe member killed by a park ranger) - check out the New Yorker article Fiction in the Ramapos by Ben McGrath.

I probably wouldn't have noticed those details at all if I hadn't read trivia about the movie - in the edited version post-lawsuit they are just an unspecified group of people from the Jersey Appalachians, which is all they need to be.

And it's not the point that those people would be 'bad' compared to other characters that would be 'good'.

The message is that everybody is fucked anyway - the different characters are just on different points in a spectrum of "trying to not fuck others <--> going all out on fucking others, too", to try to get ahead, to get justice, or just to survive, and failing nonetheless, because they're all fucked by forces far greater (class society, capitalism and the military-industrial complex basically!). :(