#anyway i love vasily and dogma and i am throwing away my au thay supported growth bettering oneself in favor of evil circus family

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That's understandable, I've seen folks express how disconnected the Carnivora chapter felt to the rest of the game's story. Though you hit the nail in your last point about why the idea of them is cool to me & it's essentially what I'd do with 'em. :) I also really dug Pain's design, he's so imposing! I thought it'd be cool to have the Twins look up to P&T in a way they never did with Typhon, due to how far P&T have enabled them to use their power instead of holding them back.

Ajakdhjs the POTENTIAL with a Pain and Terror being adult figures for the twins is ASTRONOMICAL

I'm thinking of the Twins leaving Nekro to go be stars, and being picked up by the bandit festival as as performers. Tyreen does her magic by turning the stage into a mess of gore and eridium dust, Troy's sickly, but he still has speed and strength to make for a good hunting performance. They quickly become fan favorites among the carnival goers, being as freaky as freak can get; especially with how they just ooze and drip charisma and personality. With Carnivore, they become overnight sensations on Pandora, perfectly happy to reap the clout while the two boss men handle the money and schedules.

I'm super into this fiction, mostly because I have a soft spot for carnival stories. If it was me writing it, I'd rewrite Pain and Terror to be not Pen and Teller, and also change the names. Becauee cmon, I'm pretty sure every bandit you meet is named pain or terror.

I'm thinking of a large, brutish Ex-vladof soldier, maybe named Vasily? Huge, broad dude, still with the pin stripe suit and the red circle glasses. Thick accent, fiercely intelligent but prefers to play up the physical intimidation to run his business. Bald headed to show off tattoos, thick, luxuriously kept beard. Definitely wears wears eyeliner to make his glare more fierce. Runs the show and performance, handles all the performers.

And the smaller guy, I'm imagining a Promethean? Someone from a metropolitan city, big and bright and flashy. On the shorter side for his city, but still taller than most Pandorans. Very thin and lithe, looks like a cat. Probably has a name that has a hidden meaning or irony, like Dogma. Kind of manipulative, has stuck knives in many different backs. Longish hair, keeps it tied back in a scandinavian braid. Also very intelligent, but has more interest in money, logistics, and business, so runs everything going on behind the stage curtains.

They've been working together on Carnivora for a few years, started about when the destroyer was killed. Around the time that BL2 starts, Vasily's talent scouting team finds two dying siren twins in the desert. The moment he heard that Tyreen can kill people in a slow, glamorous, dramatic manner, he snatches them both up like a hawk. She's awkward and way too hyper, but she'll learn.

Troy, meanwhile, can't do his human stalking performances often due to sickness, so he gets taken under Dogma's wing. He has an eye for marketing and parasocial relationships, and quickly, the Twins get a cult following amongst the Carnivora goers.

Dogma makes the business decision to limit their performances, not just to make them rarer and more exclusive, but to keep these at-the-time teenagers from being overexposed and having too much pressure on them. So, when they aren't on the stage, Ty and Troy are working with Dogma and Vasily to boost their media presence, quickly developing a weird little adopted family. They're vicious killers and shrewd manipulators, but they're family. Vasily is a malewife and mama hen, Dogma is everything Typhon isn't and theyre both everything the Twins needed.

Tyreen's condition is immediately looked into, and after magic therapy, medication, and tests with Eridian tech, can get her powers under control, making her happier and capable of genuine interpersonal relationships. Troy has the best doctors around, and after replacing Ty's energy with Eridium, has a boost in health since he isn't being partially leeched each time he needs a refill. He still stays to himself, but he isn't a wallowing nightmare of self-destruction.

Carnivora is a beast on Pandora, sweeping through the planet with kidnappings, raids, and destruction, all thanks to the Twins and their adoptive dads' support. Its their happiness in this life that makes them so much more dangerous, because all four have the other three to lose, and are not willing to allow such a thing to come to fruition.

The story would probably be started by the Crimson Raiders, wanting to stop these madmen from growing any further. They already have an army with their fans, and the destruction sown is quickly leading to a takeover of Pandora through idolatry and violence.