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Let’s go down the list shall we:
Katherine: gets impregnated with child out of wedlock, child torn away from her right after birth. Her entire sympathy arc is based on a child she didn’t even connect with.
Rebekah: Believes her trashy life will all be fixed with a hello kitty bandaid if she just had Kids and a Hubby, (when all she needs to do is get away from her toxic brothers and experience life on her own)
Isobel Flemming: Teen mom ™ who regrets child but loves child who wants child but doesn’t want child, who looses child because the guy is a coward, leads person who clearly wants to use/kill child to said child, then turns around and says I love child. (It’s like they couldn’t stick to a single villain arc because how could a mother possibly not care about her child when even the shitty dad does all the while having eight different dad hates child story lines sitting in the back burner.)
Valerie Tulle: gets pregnant with Stefan’s child and has child LITERALLY beaten out of her, has child PHYSICALLY beaten to death inside her, is pushed to the fucking ground and kicked in the stomach till child dies, commits suicide because of loss of child, is not even given the dignity to choose her own death, comes back as first Heretic to exist, all of this to push plot and create dRaMa b/w steroline. Yes they actually used a women who was violently beaten to near death and experienced an even more violent miscarriage at the hands of a guy who believed the child will make him late for a bone sesh, revolve around steroline and how Stefan wouldn’t love Caroline if he just had that child, THERES HALF A EPISODE JUST DEPICTING STEFAN’S MANPAIN ON LOOSING A COULD BE CHILD, when Valerie literally acts like a mechanical robot reiterating facts and her entire emotional “reaction” so to speak is her committing suicide AND NOTHING ELSE (as if they couldn’t be bothered to write female trauma) Like JFC you CANNOT TELL ME THIS IS DISGUSTING FUCKING SHIT THAT SHOULD NOT EXIST.
Jo Saltzman: Looses twin foetus children on her wedding day, is literally killed by her abusive psychotic brother on the fucking alter, to cover up Candice’s pregnancy, JESUS, HOW DID A PERSON WHO IS NOT UNHINGED IN THE BRAIN SIT DOWN AND COME UP WITH THIS, and not for one second think how fucking traumatising ALL of this is FOR NO GOOD REASON. Not even good plot, this was all for logistics they could’ve fucking covered up in a hundred other different ways.
Caroline Forbes: Do we even have to mention it? Is forced to endure pregnancy she has NO obligation to endure, is not even given a single scene to process the pregnancy and come up with a coherent response that isn’t “I will do it for you” forces herself to marry a man who is as old as her dad in human years for said children, said man turns around and tells her she is not these children’s mother to her face when she was literally FORCED into giving birth to two children that aren’t even her own. Looses all character development and becomes Mother of child ™.
Hayley Marshall: Nah bro I shouldn’t have to TELL you, but ok, gets pregnant with an abusive psychopath’s child, ykw the list is too long, y’all know the drill choked when wanting abortion, experiences atleast 7 near death experiences in the nine months she was pregnant all because Klaus wanted to play King to three streets and one marsh, and she was KWEEN of the werewolves, has the most violent birthing experience, her child revolves around Klaus’ redemption, hence her character fully revolves around said child and directly/indirectly Klaus, is turned into a fucking animal when she decided to do one damn thing for her own child, is nothing more than “Mother of Hope” throughout the show.
Freya Mikaelson: Of ALL the different things a women in literal captivity FOR HER ENTIRE LIFE can experience for backstory Trauma™ OF EVERYTHING they could choose, they yet again go for traumatic pregnancy, a self-induced miscarriage and a SUICIDE story revolving around said pregnancy, her selling point to the Mikaelsons is “I lost a child I won’t let you lose yours.” LIKE ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? Forget misogynistic writing that’s just paper-thin-rumpled-trash-in-trash-can writing.
Esther Mikaelson: Chooses to give up her first born child for the prospect of multiple children, in Lenore’s body actually bloody tells Hayley she can have more babies if Hayley allows her to make Hayley Human, Hayley CONSIDERS THIS SERIOUSLY. Is actually shown to want to become human so she can have more babies.
Sarah Salvatore: Black woman who is KILLED by Damon to give manpain TO DAMON, like bruh wtf?? You seriously had Damon kill a pregnant black woman and give him manpain in the form of guilt to redeem him? YOU MADE A WOMAN’S MURDER ABOUT HER MURDERER’S GUILT?? JP and her team of writers cannot get more fucked up than this
Feel free to add to this, and if any fucker ever dare come to your page trying to fight that tvd/to is not MISOGYNISTIC in its ENTIRETY, you send them to this post, and this post only contains pregnancy related batshit crazy misogyny in the show, if we went through everything that is misogynistic, I’d say the transcript of the show is an entire comprehensive list of all of it. And seriously anybody who believes JP’s writing isn’t the most misogynistic sexist piece of writing that’s just a steaming hot pile of rotten shit, Well then I sincerely suggest you fuck off to some other corner of the world where TO/TVD stans can gather and lick white manpain experiencing male dick.
Sincerely someone who has watched TO/TVD top to bottom and is traumatised.
LOL yes exactly, like I don’t understand how someone could see this and say that it’s not so soaked in misogyny that nothing in the show can be separated from the violent sexism. Saying “well this character stood there in one scene and didn’t say anything sexist so you can’t call the entire thing sexist and if you do then you’re basically doing the same thing as calling all men sexist” (and like I don’t want that anon to start that argument again but LITERALLY WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT ANALOGY) is an absurd, fatuous argument.
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For 'Klaus' daughter aging and dying as a normal person', LOL, nop. Her body produces vampire blood, she'll then regenerate again and again for the whole eternity and couldn't age. If someone kills her - Tearing her heart off, cutting her head off, etc... She'll come back as an original vampire. For the twins, yeah, they will die but they will have to merge when they will be 22, so.
If she can’t age then why tf is she aging now? LOL and when exactly is the stopping point for her aging? Presumably when she’s at her youngest and hottest like most vampire baby bullshit.
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I like what ducky7goofy wrote to you. The backdoor TO pilot should’ve been about Klaus receiving a phonecall that was left mysterious and ominous to the audience. And we later find that someone - who was once like a son to Klaus- finally reaches out to him. To tell him about Kol wreaking havoc in New Orleans. Kol combined with the news that Marcel was alive all this time would’ve been believable enough to make Klaus go there. Like we didn’t need a baby to be the reason.
I mean, it could have been literally anything other than a baby and it would have been better.
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this show makes no sense because Caroline's body is literally frozen, she can't grow old, her cells don't start to die off or her organs get weaker, there is no way for that kid to even receive nutrients because vampires can't absorb any.
LOL, not to mention like, why would grandpa Gemini decide to magically transport Jo’s fetuses into one of the many LIVING woman bodies that were in the room at the time. And yes, I actually just wrote that sentence out.
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The thing that bugs me about both Caroline and Klaus having kids is that they used the fact that they have kids to signify just how special and important they are. As if the ability to have children is the end all be all of what makes u more significant & more worthy. Having a child isn't an attribute. It's not a part of your personality. It sends this f'edup message about how not being able to have a kid makes u less then someone who can? Idk there's many reasons reasons it's murky storytelling
Yeah it’s complete garbage and I hate it on every level so that’s fun, but an extra ick factor for me is that these are shows for teenagers who are mostly girls so that’s extra fucked up to be telling their audience.
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I know Keelin's character description was that she was bisexual, but I think the assumption was that she was going to be with Freya. Obviously that's probably not the case, since some guy knocked her up - and I'm sure that will be the angst for Freya/Keelin for the rest of the season. / They've killed Hayley before, and she came back to life and I could them having Hope resurrect her or whatever, so until we find out her death will stick, I don't get why people are so worked up.
Like they literally had one character left that they could physically possibly impregnate AAAND THEY DID.
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Y'all do know that same sex couples can get pregnant without fucking a dick or having a uterus, right, lol... I swear, straight people.
Yes I do, but as far as I know pregnancy still includes sperm and egg meeting and since Keelin is bisexual I didn’t think it was too much to speculate that she got pregnant by having sex with a man.
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LMFAO these wikia comments why don't we get 30 year old retired olsen twins to play 13 year old carolines twins lol I Just died 😂😂😂
LOL that would actually be hilarious.
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Keelin is going to give birth to reincarnated Hayley.
LMFAO, just imagine her coming out of Keelin’s birth canal fully grown and screaming, classic TO.
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Dumbest plot point TVD/TO did and go! For me it was the beginning of what was to come on TVD, and that's as soon as Silas became a Stefan doppleganger. I liked the whole face shifting aspect but then as soon as his true form because Stefan I was like da fuc is this shit. One Stefan is enough. I to this day think that TVD was only trying to save money and not hire another actor to play Silas. Cheapos.
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Did Julie really say Saltzman would be one of Caroline's last names or was that a joke? Do you take the last name of anyone you ever dated now too, or is it just surrogates?
Uh obvi it would, what do women ever do that matters besides give birth.
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Actually Carina said she wants another magical baby plot 😐😐😐😐
I am not surprised by that at all.
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Someone sent you an ask saying Carina had posted something about another baby on the show, and that fans were being rude about it on twitter IIRC, so it sounds like Carina wants a baby, but the fans do not.
Damn, when even the TO stans are anti baby you know they’ve overplayed the baby shit.
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Damn you TO and your baby plots. But you know what's more annoying to me? They're damn need to make things as complicated as possible for the sake of really stupid/problematic angst. Like either keelin ends up magically pregnant or she cheats on freya with a one night stand. Like bros if you seriously won't let go of the damn baby plots why not just go with hey they wanted a baby so they went to a gosh darn doctor.
It really, really, really creeps the fuck out of me. Alien is less creepy and weird with it’s pregnancy themes than TO is.
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Hayley shouldn't get judged as harshly, many TVD stans (that aren't KC) didn't complain when Caroline did the same thing to stay with Stefan (and what was worse in Caroline's situation was that she was only in danger due to Stefan - if she cut herself from him both the twins and her would be safe. The argument that because she's a vampire and that brings trouble so the twins should go is redundant when 5 episodes later they're reunited and she doesn't care). (1)
I'm not a big Hayley fan, but I feel what Caroline did was worse so... (2)
Uh someone else’s garbage parenting does not magically make garbage parent number one a non-garbage parent.
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All these people comparing the "parenting" between Hayley and Caroline are forgetting that by the time Care got forced to carry the miracle twins her character had been completely destroyed and rewritten for Stefan's sake bc that's pretty much JP's feminist view or something. Hayley's is just being herself, sending her child away for a man happened since she gave birth ffs because she wanted Elijah and play Queen, now she'll do it again, which oddly enough is pretty consistent for TO.
No lies detected.
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