#anti milkvan canon

[gayofthefae]

In putting Will in the beginning of it and cutting back to him, they, once again made it so that Mike wasn't saying "I love you" to El. He wasn't committing to El. He was leaving Will. And that's all they wanted you to be thinking about it.

Is he filling El's heart? It doesn't matter, because all you can think about is "is he breaking Will's?"

Will should not have been there for it to be romantic. If you establish that the action that you've been building to as the big romantic gesture will crush someone's soul...and then you do it?

Yeah, that was not meant to make us feel good.

[nobodyinourstars]

STOPPPP😭😭😭😭😭

[coventhewise]

canon (+ almost canon) couples and light glowing between them

—jancy

—lumax

—jopper

—rovickie

—byler

[rawrx3ky-txt]

The way Mike looks at El 😻😻

You can tell he truly does love her and they are going to be together forever 🥰😻

[queermikewheelertruther]

mileven vs byler fight

I think by now we’ve all seen that “I really want s5 to be milevens season” post, but I noticed something interesting about it.

“No fights.” Now this isn’t just specific to this post, I’ve seen plenty of other milevens say similar things and just generally being against the idea of a mileven fight.

But compare this to Bylers. I’ve seen countless amounts of posts wishing/begging for another Byler fight, a rain fight, etc. But why is this? What’s the difference between mileven and Byler’s fights?

With Byler, their arguments always end resolved. Mike apologies to Will, and they tend to have some sort of intimate moment(s) afterwards. But compare this to mileven, they don’t. Any relationship issues mileven has had throughout the series haven’t really been resolved.

These problems just kind of build up overtime and result in things like an argument “you can’t come back from.” I also feel like this is why milevens don’t want a mileven fight again. They know that it wasn’t really fixed. Their relationship isn’t doing so well by the end of s4.

As for Byler, their fights build on to their relationship, and also just their characters. As we’ve seen in s4, the rain fight encouraged Mike to join a dnd campaign again, and also attempt to bring the party back together. And their s4 fight, well I mean, all I have to say is the flirtatious bedroom scene(s) LMAOO

But milevens can clearly see that it’s not the same case for mileven. A fight wouldn’t help their relationship, because they don’t understand each other when they have a disagreement romantically.

(id also like to add that milevens arguments just… aren’t on the same level as bylers. for example, milevens ‘fight’ in s3 didn’t feel emotional. it felt like the average teen couple breaking up but it didn’t feel devastating or even that big of a deal. as for byler, they want you to feel kind of taken back by their fights. they want you to go “wow, this is a pretty serious argument that no other friendship seems to have in the show.” and for a reason too. milevens fight in s4, it was upsetting but in a specific way. they’re trying to make it feel unappealing, hence why mileven is always separated and having problems throughout the series.)

[samcats]

Even if Byler doesn’t happen, it is and always will be queer baiting and I’m not going to act like it isn’t

This isn’t us being delusional, this is Netflix using a popular gay ship to promote the show.

This is the Duffers purposely pairing up the couples and Byler, suggesting Byler is a couple

Annddd Will having a crush on Mike that opens up the possibility of a queer couple being canon

Making a gay character have his whole plotline revolve around having a crush on a guy just to turn around and say “well actually that guy doesn’t like him back!” And then make the heterosexual couple endgame is extremely scummy.

They did not have to open up the possibility of a queer couple, yet they did. If they end up sticking with milkshake for season 5 instead of Byler after making it SO clear that it could happen, it by definition is queer baiting

[bkdk-bylerthings]

Mike Wheeler is a Gay mess

MY THOUGHTS ON REPRESENTATION/SYMBOLISM ABOUT THAT AWKWARD KISS SCENE AT THE END OF SEASON 3

As we all know Mike Wheeler did not kiss El back, he stood there with his eyes open, arms at his side and then is left there looking more confused then ever.

Want I want to look at in the scene is the Closet and Bear

Let’s talk about the Closet first:

El and Mike are standing infront of the closet, which I find really interesting for them to be placed there.

First we have El, not being able to use her powers to reach the teddy bear so Mike steps and grabs it for her.

Right, he’s the one to reach into the closet. Which now could be the beginning of something, that something of him taking a step into the closet. If you understand what I’m saying here.

…

Then after the awkward kiss, El walks away, leaving Mike near the closest, making no steps to move at all.

He realized he didn’t like that kiss, now questioning something about himself.

So since he didn’t move my point is that he’s now in the closet— and backing that up is what I said before of him reaching into the closet, grabbing what was in the closet.

For that - he doesn’t love El romantically and is starting to realize he has feelings for someone else…

Now to add to all that - The representation of the Teddy bear:

I think the bear could represent Mike’s love and for who he thinks he loves (cough cough El)

As we know El couldn’t reach the bear in the first place bc she wasn’t tall enough, so tries with her powers— this represents and foreshadowing season 4 of her trying to reach (in this case) for Mike’s love for her.

Since she couldn’t reach it, Mike does. Mike hands her his love or this case his actually love of Will, since this bear came from the closet. He is able to reach into the closet bc that is where his Love lies, not El, bc he doesn’t love her like that and El can’t make Mike love her, she can’t force him like she tried to force the bear down—

—like in season 4, questioning Mike if he still loves her.

“But you don’t love me anymore?”

To put it as simply as I can:

The bear represents Mike’s love but a love he put into the wrong hands bc actually he (for the time being) should have left it where it was. His love for Will is in the closet, his feelings for Will are hidden away… for now. He doesn’t quite understand what to do with this thing called Love so he gives it to El while he shouldn’t be.

And so after he stands there confused, he realizes ‘I gave my love to the wrong person’ leaving him standing next to the closet after that realization. He’s almost, confused, sad, in the dark now about his feelings since there is no more light coming from the closet.

I don’t think this is truly what the show wants you to get at here, I just love reaching, and over analyzing things bc it’s fun.

[queen-of-hawkins-why-ler]

"They won't split up the MAIN couple of the show >:(((" and the main couple of the show in question is a girl whose arc has actively included her becoming progressively more self-reliant and less dependent on her boyfriend across ALL seasons + a boy who has been staring wistfully at his best friend's lips and reaching for his hand since they were like 12

[stranger-theory]

okay but i can already see Those Milkvans going "well the reason we haven't seen Mike and El bts is because they're hiding something BIG that's gonna happen between them" like mf yeah they're breaking up thats pretty big

[meloqnspblog]

Why You Never See Platonic Byler

How come we don't ever see people talk about how they love platonic byler, about how much they miss their friendship, platonic byler edits etc...? Why is it that people who don't ship/like byler always hate on even platonic byler and talk about how much Mike hates Will? Like, there's so many platonic elmike fans here who talk about them being good friends and bylers always talk about platonic elmike, but not the other way around? Because they know byler actually has potential and romantic undertones, and that it's a 'threat' to their ship.

[byleriscanon713by]

Bro I just realized the more feminine El gets through the series the less Mike likes her

[gayofthefae]

The inherent setup for that Max flashback montage for El in season 4 to have so much of season 3's bonding content be about her distance from Mike in the first place. The setup to have that be the content they're pulling from.

[nobodyinourstars]

Who the hell is cutting onions????😭😭😭😭

[mskingbean1989]

Definition of

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𝘖𝘩. [🏳️‍🌈]

[sara-yuna]

Guys I can't stop laughing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[queermikewheelertruther]

“You only hate Mileven bc it’s straight!”

Not quite!! Maybe if Milkvan was as good as this top tier, adorable, romantic, genuine, authentic, passionate, and likable relationship these two have I would actually enjoy it.