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As an ex Marauders fan I have some insight in on this 👀
I honestly believe that my opinions on Dumbledore have been carved by the Marauder fans views on him and their weird ass theories.
Their problem with him mostly surrounds Sirius and his wrongful imprisonment. They believe Dumbledore knew he was innocent and just put him there to get him out of the way. Some people claim that as Chief Warlock he would have some sway over the Wizengamot and should be able to have gotten Sirius a trial.
They completely skip over the fact that if people- including one of his best friends believe him to be capable of that kind of betrayal, and very damming evidence at the time then people do believe that Sirius was rightfully imprisoned.
Completely skip over the fact that at the age of 15-16 (Sirius was born November 1959) he was completely capable of sending someone to a brutal death without seeing anything wrong with it. Well we don't know if canonicaly Sirius realized what he did was wrong when he told James. (Someone do correct me if I'm wrong). I believe he was just gloating to James about what he did and James knew it was wrong, wether it was to protect his friend or to save Snape's life, or even both, he knew it was wrong. We do not see any kind of remorse on Sirius's end.
On top of that, James, Lily, and Sirius believed Remus to be the traitor. Peter definitely played along with that. Sirius was going to originally be the secret keeper but they switched last minute without telling anyone. Some marauder stans would say that Dumbledore knew because he was the one to cast the fidelius charm.
Some go as far as to say he planned everything. From the whole Snape overhearing the prophecy (tho they are all still Snape antis) to Peter betraying the Potter's to Harry growing up abused and neglected at the Dursley's. As well as Hagrid's "manipulation" for Harry to go to Gryffindor. Everything with the horcruxes and the one in Harry's scar.
But going back. They also bring the side characters in. The whole "Dumbeldore is responsible for Peter's betrayal" is insane to me. (I'm also ashamed that I believed in it back then). They have no points to back up their claims either. As well claiming that Peter killed the McKinnons because Marlene knew he was the mole in the Order.
They also make Dorcas Meadows as Slytherin (who vibes with death eaters but she's neutral apparently) but she then goes off and kills a bunch of Death Eaters when the "love of her life Marlene" was killed. Dumbeldore then has it orchestrated that she was killed. How? I have no idea because Voldemort himself kills her.
OH, let's also not forget Pandora Lovegood and how Dumbledore killed her 🙄. Apparently Luna Lovegood's "strange creatures telling her everything and so she knows everything" thing isn't just a her thing but some sort of weird seer ability she got from her mother.
Marauders like to make Pandora like an all knowing person. Also don't forget that Pandora is friends with Regulus and Evan Rosier (who are both confirmed loyal death eaters). Pandora somehow knows that Dumbeldore killed Regulus (because he found out about the horcruxes) and so she approaches Dumbledore and is like "I know what you are doing and I'm going to stop you" but then Dumbledore somehow made her experimentations explode on her and kill her.
According to them Dumbeldore is responsible for the deaths of
James Potter
Lily Potter Neé Evans
Sirius Black
Regulus Black
Marlene Mickinnon
Dorcas Meadows
Pandora Lovegood
Remus Lupin
Nymphadora Tonks
Ted Tonks (not 100% sure)
Lavender Brown
Colin Creevy
Fred Weasley
The list honestly goes on.
Also notice how none of them blame Dumbledore for Severus Snape's death, which in technicality he is not directly responsible for.
Dumbledore in a sense had set Severus up to die when he asked him to kill him, and when he set up a fail safe to make Harry the master of death. So Harry could come back after Voldemort killed him to kill the horcrux inside him.
Dumbledore as well knew that Voldemort wanted the Elder Wand and knew if Severus killed him (without Draco having disarmed him first) Severus would have become the master of the Elder Wand. Voldemort would have had to kill him to gain allegiance of the wand.
Also on top of that the whole "Harry needs to be raised unloved to be a martyr for the greater good" okay yeah Dumbledore really should have checked in on Harry or even asked Snape if he believes Petunia would be an okay guardian. Even if Harry really needed to live with the Dursley's he could have discreetly checked in on him.
Also was the whole "Dumbledore wanted Harry to grow up unaware of the Wizarding World" is that even canon? Don't remember. But in the whole marauder fans headcanon it was also all part of his greater good manipulations of Harry. To just throw him to the wolves. Like "yer a wizard Harry and oh look there are people who love you and worship you but then there are people who want you dead as well you will be all over the news and you have no one to help guide you throughout this all and this somehow allows me to further manipulate you". Like it's so far fetched.
And there are fanfictions. Some of them are badly written and kinda crack, believe me I've read them. Then there are other fics that actually take it seriously and it does have a plot. Majority of these have canon compliant events but change a crap ton of things to fit it into their plot. Magic blocks, compulsion charms. They even go as far as to keep Harry ignorant from things like not properly introducing him to the Wizarding world and stuff.
I can go on the topic of the whole Dumbledore debate all day but this was mostly about what the marauder stans think.
If you need anything elaborated don't be shy to ask 👀.
Also I can't believe back when I was a marauder stan I believed all this and believed it actually made sense. 😭🤢
why the heck do marauder stans hate dumbledore so much???? I see some arguments that dumbledore should’ve taken Harry to hogwarts instead of the dureslys? which doesn’t make any sense because 1. its a school, and who would be there to take care of Harry? 2. The only reason he was with the dureslys was because of blood wards that prevented him from getting found out by DEs and Voldemort and everyone from james side wad dead
which was smart because Ann and Frank got tortured after Voldemort disappeared so imagine what would’ve happened to Harry if he was put with literally anybody else
They also act like it was only Dumbledores fault that sirius got imprisoned and saying dumbledore ‘always has a say’ and he was more powerful that the minister of magic????
like mf were we reading the same book??? I can name several things where he said something and no one did shit + threatened him for it
theres also the thing thT Remus didn’t say anything to dumbledore about Sirius not rattling them out because both of them know Sirius is very fully capable of murder like when he tried to murder snape because he existed or smth
If remus did I feel that would be relevant and Remus never said anything about Sirius being an anigamus too for some reason
anyways sorry because I started ranting and probably sounding confusing
good day 👍
I’ve asked myself that same question for god knows how long, anon.
All their arguments are very irritating. The main reason I seek out Dumbles-defence and defend him for some of his actions is because of this very reason. Marauder stans’ arguments stem from bias and pursuing to avert the blame, but the funny thing is I’ve seen them blame him for things he had absolutely nothing to do with. I genuinely have no idea what they hold against him so much. I say all this as a Dumbledore hater (I consider myself more of a skeptic but that’s not the point), he did do a lot of things in canon that undeniably deserve criticism, but 97% of the things this fandom the Marauders fandom hate him for are far-fetched and are not canon. For the most part, I can only ever accept Dumbles bashing from Snape fans.
I do agree that he should’ve done something about the Dursleys’ abuse (seriously, screw him for that), but Harry still had to stay there for the blood protection. He most certainly should not have left baby!Harry unattended for a decade with people whom he knew were awful, but Harry had to stay. Dumbledore didn’t want Harry to know of the Wizarding World’s existence before he turned 11.
And no, it was not Dumbledore’s fault. Sure, you could argue he had something to do with it, but you can’t pin the blame solely on him. There were many catalysts for James and Lily’s death and Sirius’s imprisonment—most of all Voldemort and Peter. Dumbles had a lot less power in the Wizarding government than people like to think he did.
Remus not going to Albus and not begging for a trial only further empathises how bad of a person Sirius must’ve been. He was really that bad of a person that EVERYONE—including one of his best friends and the entire OoTP—had no problem believing that Sirius joined Lord Voldemort, betrayed James and Lily to death, and would have murdered baby!Harry too. I mean, it’s not like Sirius denied the crime (that was so stupid of him tbh), but y’all are really telling me that no one thought “huh.. something doesn’t seem right”? Does this fandom not realise how bad that implies Sirius was???
Don’t worry, anon, I get what you’re trying to say. Thank you for your ask, have a nice day.
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All of this, of course.
Reading this again, I may have come as a tad bit more offensive, but just to clarify, I don’t hate Regulus Black.
He can be made into a layered character from the existing canon points, but currently, with all the OC traits added to him, he comes up as a twinkified Severus-ish character, because the fandom largely work in pretty privilege (the toxic ones, of course, I’d go out on a limb and associate the TikTok part of those) and want someone who has been mentioned as conventionally attractive to be a “good guy”.
Severus, yes he was a bully, yes he was a death eater sympathiser for a good formative parts of his life, despite that, he was indeed the one who made one of the most sacrifices to help win the war.
Before you lot come at me, I’m not saying that he wasn’t bad, I’m just saying that it does not take away what he did help in.
And the fandom absolutely loves to associate those things to canon Regulus Black. It’s the character trait thievery that I hate, and they do that more often than I can count. When those traits which are canonically other characters’ come on my dash, I want to scream.
So here I am.
Regulus is a more palatable Severus Snape.
Evan Rosier is either Draco Malfoy or Scorpius Malfoy depending on the fic.
Barty Crouch Jr. is Albus Severus Potter. Dorcas Meadowes is Andromeda Black (at least in the stuff l've seen).
Pandora Rosier/Lestrange/whatever is Astoria Greengrass.
It's essentially taking the traits they like from the other Slytherin characters and making a bunch of OC's that largely defy the canon we do have for those characters, with the purpose of creating a group of palatable Slytherins because these are the characters they most relate to.
Yes, this. And my question is, WHY? These traits are already of existing canon characters, if you want to give them traits, MAKE YOUR OWN. DO NOT STEAL OTHER CHARACTERS’ PERSONALITY.
Cross tagging is so fucked up, because be for real right now, this isn’t TikTok or Instagram. Tumblr is a site with lots of different fandom, you can’t just add an entirely different tag for a post that is something on the other end of the spectrum. Tumblr is meant for organisation and sorting posts to your liking, and hardcore shippers and fans make it exceedingly hard.
As said above, in the previous reblog, major characters who had mentions more than other “Slytherin Skittles” and single mention characters, like Alice Longbottom, Frank Longbottom, Kingsley Shacklebolt, Nymphadora Tonks, even Andromeda Black, are ignored for other problematic characters.
Marauder fandoms loves to talk about how we are generalising them into being a toxic group, but please, the way they torch us for shipping Jily or Snily, heck even, Prongsfoot (because apparently shipping anything apart from Wolfstar is a crime) screams hypocrisy. They love to call Snape Stans apologists when most of them are not even ignoring his behaviours. They accept that Severus has done problematic and questionable shit. Meanwhile most of the Marauder Stans can’t even come up to accept their faves’ behaviour. (When was the last time a marauder stan accepted that James, Sirius, and by extension of ignorance, Remus and Peter were bullies? When was the last time they did not gaslight Snape Stans and say that it was just teasing?)
Some fans ship Bellatrix and Alice, Tomarry, Barty Crouch Jr with his victims and point fingers at us for shipping problematic ships. Like, be so for real right now, Snily cannot be more toxic or problematic than Bellatrix and Alice.
In a nutshell, the marauders fandom and by extension, Slytherin skittles fandom had so much potential to be a good and inclusive fandom if they did not operate on hypocrisy, torching other fans for their ships, weird tagging habits, making totally unrelated shit their ‘canon’ and pissing on others who did not go by that, and stole other characters’ identities and traits.
But they’re not.
Initially, I was very indifferent to Regulus Black, but with all the unnecessary bit of information which is not even canon that gets shoved down my throat every time I’m on Pinterest or Tumblr EVEN WHEN I DONT FOLLOW A MARAUDER TAG OR REGULUS BLACK’S TAG, is making me hate that dude.
You take a man with like one phrase in the books, give him a bunch of traits which are stolen atp from Severus Snape and Sirius Black, romanticise it, wrap it in a shiny package as James Potter’s boytoy and present him as a feminist queer people’s ally who hated Voldemort, when the dude literally had a shrine dedicated to Voldemort and joined him willingly until his house elf’s life was on the line.
Y’all are making OCs at this rate and calling him “SlYthERiN’S hErO” “HaRrY sHouLD’vE nAMeD hIS sOn aFtER hIM” bro stfu Harry didn’t know about Regulus’s existence until Sirius told him that he had a brother, and didn’t think of him after the first horcrux was destroyed.
Bro consorted with all ardent death eaters and you lot go “HE WOULD AVENGE HIS BOYFRIEND’S DEATH” BABE JAMES POTTER HATED REGULUS BLACK. JUST SAY THAT YOU MADE A WHOLE NEW UNIVERSE WHICH HAS NO RELATION TO THE OG HARRY POTTER MARAUDERS WHATSOEVER
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