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#i used to be dronesofthedesert2023. blackcurrrant. thedamnedcat. antanpilot a long time ago#i mayyyy post art here we'll see. i'll have to draw first#og
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no pressure to answer rn but What r those opinions on representation in the experimental era owo
YESSS okay well if i went through each film individually i think id be here for a good few days. so i'll try to keep it brief as possible. also since we're talking about people of color im probably only gonna mention emperors new groove, atlantis, lilo and stitch, and brother bear since everything else was either exclusively white or about like. animals or something. though im sure something can also be said about coding john silver to be considerably darker than the other characters in treasure planet but i'll have to think about that a little more
a very general trend, i would say, is that since a lot of experimental era stories are characterized by NOT being based on public domain content or fairytales, so the decision to make the characters be of color seems less like an obligation as it did with their older films like mulan or aladdin. and i think that sort of lends itself to how pretty much NONE of these four movies seem like classic "disney" movies or even by the same studio when you put them side by side. there was a looot more experimentation with style instead of disneys sameface so a lot of the characters actually seemed to HAVE ethnic features instead of being the same cgi template that sort of just looks like elsa or rapunzel but Brown. i really love this era in general specifically because all the movies seemed to be doing their own thing stylistically. id argue that creative freedom also ended up bleeding into showing different cultures in their stories too for this era at least
ohhh man okay well im gonna talk about atlantis first because it is SHIT when it comes to representation its a horrible white savior narrative. i do still like the art style, a lot of the side characters are interesting but they are all ultimately just that. side characters. kida herself is horribly sexualized and reduced to a plot device + love interest DESPITE initially showing hints of a personality before turning into said plot device but you know. anyways representation-wise atlantis is a white savior story through and through but i think what makes that sting more is that an INSANE amount of thought was put into literally every other aspect of the film. they literally got the guy who invented klingon for star trek to make up the entire language of atlantean for their 90-something-minute movie, only to have it barely show up or even get mentioned in the final thing. the first two acts of the movie and original script were 2 hours and 150 pages long, respectively. but they didnt give a shit researching about any specific culture for the atlanteans it makes me so mad. BUT i think atlantis is important to address talking about representation in this era of disney because its just a really good lesson on what not to do lmao especially in the sense of making a character ambiguously brown.
OK emperors new groove. i could go on forever actually. especially considering the original version was supposed to be kingdom of the sun which was this huuuge fancy traditional disney-style musical about kuzco falling in love with some peasant girl (if youre curious about that btw definitely check out the documentary the sweatbox! its on youtube), and i think ultimately turning the movie into a comedy is what saved it. i think there would have been a lot of issues with representation had it actually tried to be a renaissance-style story. but INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH. this movie actually sparked a debate on indigenous land rights, because the original ending had kuzco raze a rainforest to build kuzcotopia, and sting, who worked on the soundtrack, ended up pointing out how insensitive that is particularly because the story features indigenous south americans even if the movie's not a "serious" one. i absolutely hate when this movie gets compared to el dorado just because they came out the same year and feature indigenous south americans and theyre both "haha funny" because emperors new groove actually Did end up sparking a meaningful discussion on indigenous portrayals, surprisingly, AND it doesnt have a horrible white savior story or sexualize any brown people. that being said though it does still have the trope of a person of color becoming an animal. i think its like...easier to forgive here given the story context but like. still a tiring trope. -_- SO YEAH while this movie is obviously NOT a pinnacle of representation i find it really interesting how it basically set the stage for turning to cultures that arent white for their stories even before lilo and stitch ended up truly opening the gates for that in mainstream animated films.
and lilo and stitch i believe ive already sort of given a rundown on hfkjghkj but i do always contrast it with brother bear in the sense that lilo and stitch had a story that was built around the culture they decided for the movie, while brother bear quite LITERALLY had the inuit culture slapped onto the story. like would you believe me if i said the original story for brother bear was based off king lear. and it was about actual bears, not a guy who turned into one. one thing especially that i compare with these two movies is that lilo and stitch had an actual hawaiian chorus for their songs, while brother bear had phil collins and a BULGARIAN WOMEN'S CHOIR for the transformation sequence. because they thought it sounded "mystical" and "foreign" enough it makes me sooo mad. and of course the trope of a person of color becoming an animal again. yeah i dont have tooo too much to say about brother bear's rep mostly because of how last minute a lot of the movie's decisions regarding it were. i also need to point out this is michael eisner's fault as well. he wanted more films about animals because he wanted to relive the success of the lion king, so we ended up with something that was made even worse in context because it was supposed to be about Just Animals and then the idea of putting people of color in there was added in afterwards.
UMMM so my general consensus of representation in the experimental era is that i think emperors new groove actually surprisingly opened up the idea for it but then lilo and stitch ultimately ended up bringing it more mainstream. but atlantis and brother bear are both important to look at too because they show how ultimately, this era was about disney trying to relive its renaissance glory INCLUDING the racism from that era. but more creative freedom in the 2d departments because of the supposed "death" of 2d animation ended up allowing for some freedom in storytelling too even if it wasnt always necessarily Good representation. okay hopefully this all makes sense bye <3
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the magnus archvies </3
I WAS LIKE DEEPLY INVESTED into tma in 2020 omg helphelphpelp ok let me see what i remember from it in like a general summary. season one jonathan sims and martin and tom and sasha all work for the magnus institute in the archival team etc etc jon denies like all of the tapes paranormal-ness and then the worm incident happens at theend of this season. throughout seasons 2 - 4 you find out about the 13 (12? 11? i forgot how many there were) fears and some new characters get introduced daisy basira etc etc and then in season 5 everything goes to shit and jon has like eye powers idk i stopped listening at this point
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tagged by el @blackvestals to post my lockscreen, last song, and last saved img :)!!
tagging @siberiantrap @commievampire @sc4bpuppy @beehaiku @solarismp3 @antanpilot
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HABBY BIRDAY @antanpilot <3333 !!!!!!! im so glad im your friend, always love discussing nerdy shit with you - here’s a kim who ran out of normal birthday candles o__O
welcome to the 18 gang and don’t have an existential crisis yet okay?? love you :p
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@antanpilot it's actually areida! working on the western au poster <3
[id: a closeup of a person in a headscarf looking over their shoulder, expression concerned. /end id]
first littel wip thing bc i was shocked at how this expression came out on a first try
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the way wyllastarion is just antanpilot for a new generation 😭
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black sails
i have NOOOOOOOO IDEA imso sorry help ive never heard of this before... idk what type of media it is either help... ok heres my guess: webcomic series about pirates
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tagged by @solarismp3 🥰 to post my current fave songs
• i’m a woman - the garden
• i wanna be adored - king woman
• who’s sorry now - connie francis
• slow birth - screaming females
• our day will come - amy winehouse
• a feast before the drought - puce mary
• electric eye - judas priest
• sensitive artist - king missile
• the heaviest matter of the universe - gojira
• can you get to that - funkadelic
tagging:
@siberiantrap @fateology @blackvestals @aloocha @malebisexual @tmntbf @commievampire @antanpilot @scabpuppy
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@antanpilot STOP........... true
me and datura spent all the night talking about my story and my two bitchass characters who are so fucking gay and terrible. not to overstate it, but it was a very emotional time and im still reeling from it. it was visceral. jesus christ
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