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@theladyelizabeth
I read the first two and I'm ashamed to say I liked them before I did like ... even slightly deeper than surface level research on Henry's wives lol.
oh, well, you’ll get no judgement from me, i read the lady elizabeth before i knew what was up re: w/eir, and as for these, i’ve at least skimmed most because they’re one of the few avail at my library...
it’s interesting to contrast how sex is portrayed, like this is one of the instances where you can absolutely judge books by their titles/covers. the c/oa and j/ane novels are always fade to black, sexual desire obliquely referenced but not made manifest (tbqh, catherine’s teenage crush on fray diego is as spicy as it gets, jane is...deeply offended and shocked by the quote about henry’s [lack of] virility in the trial of may 1536 because she’s like ‘that’s not true’,f ahitughfrdjsl;f...) the AB novel if you remember, is fairly sexually explicit but honestly more in the period before marriage than during (there’s no SA, at least not of anne in the novel, but one scene of extreme dubious consent that’s borderline prior to marriage, during betrothal, another than constitues sexual harassment in the form of a forced kiss, before betrothal) and w/eir seemed fairly obsessed with crafting scenes where anne is sexually humiliated in other aspects. the k/atheryn howard novel is extremely sexually explicit; i haven’t read all six but probably the most of all.
the author’s notes are another interesting point of contrast. w/eir spends pages defending her choice to portray anne as fully conscious and in complete excruciating pain after her execution for an entire paragraph/s (?) by citing some study on deaths by guillotine in the 19th century (was anne killed by guillotine? no? apparently that’s irrelevant); she spends pages in the A/N of the katheryn howard defending henry, insisting he didn’t want katheryn die because he sent her to syon first, as if he could not have completely prevented her execution, and ultimately did not.
maybe she has learned her lesson from the (limited...limited, for how egregious and voyeuristic and orgasmically schadenfreude it was) criticism that creative choice in novel 2 received, because the closing line of the KH novel is better than the tudors’ version, and at least, implies that she felt no pain, and died instantly, because the novel ends on the hyphen of her prayers:
‘God have mercy on my soul,’ she prayed aloud. ‘Good people, I beg you pray for me! God have mercy —’
not for them, the welcoming embrace of angels that c/oa receives, of course, but then, i would never expect that from w/eir.
and the jane novel...omg, i have talked about it before, but i am just entirely flummoxed by the attempt, as she has called it, to create a sympathetic character of jane, because it failed so spectacularly. like, i am a hater, and i will fully admit that, but i did read the novel with an open mind and it is just like continually being slapped in the face with what planet does this woman live on, lol...
as the title goes, she is ‘haunted’, and there’s this scene where she visits a place that henry norris and AB had a conversation that she remembers from when she was a lady-in-waiting. somehow she is convinced by the spirits of the place, or whatever, that they were both entirely innocent of all accusations, and she is...comforted by this? she’s comforted by the recognition/realization that (at the very least) two innocent people were falsely accused and wrongly put to death, rather than horrified by that. it’s...so much.
#theladyelizabeth#replies#her view on katheryn howard seems to have progressed past the pretty gross things she wrote about her in the 90s at least...#like she mentioned her intercessions and generosity and loyalty to her family#maybe she came to develop a more positive view of katheryn over AB ; i mean i wish such a popular mainstay in tudor stuff did not have SUCH#a dim view of AB because it permeates but. i will take what i can get lol#gore tw/#death tw/#having read w/eir's interviews on anne like. knowing she hates her just makes her choices in the novel SO transparent#i actually kind of liked g lawrence's kh novel better...? that's probably very controversial but oh well#she actually pities henry . because she has warmth and he doesn't . she pities him to have to live the rest of his life as himself /#with himself; essentially#as per an earlier interview w/eir initially had a very dim view of jane s/eymour as well so maybe it's that.....?#but most of all she hates jane b/oleyn
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🔥 for musical theater
My biggest unpopular opinion would have to be that Six is... bad. I don’t think it does justice to the women it’s about and I think it’s very poorly written. No amount of interviews defending the choice to turn Anne B/oleyn into a baby voiced “smartphone addict” make it a good choice to me, and S/eymour’s plot is embarrassingly thin beyond her having a baby and “loving” Henry to the point where she ends up with him in her AU ending. I also find the fandom absolutely insufferable, and the way it’s hailed as the Ultimate Feminist Musical bothers me! A show full of women means nothing to me if the women aren’t well represented. Those are my main gripes with it but I could probably go on (I won’t lmao). I do feel really bad that their opening was delayed though and I hope they’ll be able to have at least a year run once Broadway reopens.
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We're really getting a new Anne b/oleyn tv show and a musical all at once... This is not gonna be fun
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THANK YOU for your application, SWAN, you have been accepted as ANNE BOLEYN. Please send in your account within twenty-four hours. Natalie Dormer is now taken.
☆ ━ ━ OUT OF THE WAY ! can’t you see ANNE BOLEYN, THE COUNTESS of NORTHUMBERLAND coming this way ? I hear SHE is DETERMINATED, but also SHORT-TEMPERED seems to remind everyone of DELICATE FLOWER WITH SOME THORNS, SWEET TREATS & ANGEL IN DISGUISE. hopefully one day SHE will succeed in HER ambition to HAVE MORE THAT SHE ACTUALLY DOES NOW, but then again, the court is a dangerous place. one can only hope SHE will keep HER head… ( NATALIE DORMER ) ━ ━ ☆ as written by SWAN;; EST, SHE/HER, 20 .
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Anne Boleyn "The Most Happy"
#anne b oleyn#los tudo rs#el tudor dinastía#ana Bolena#el más feliz#Natalie Dormer#natdormeredit#reina#los tudor#tudor#tudor Sedit#henry x anne
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reading every c/oa stan novel as they are not intended to by read...in my wickedness.
#but srsly what is with the trend of c/oa stan creators fashioning like#THEE dumbest catherine(s) alive#w/eir then t/sp and now...a/my l/icence#it literally just offends me bcus there is no way catherine was this dumb#and i'm not even a c/oa stan!!#it's just such a weird trend bcus like there's a spate of a/nne b/oleyn as heroines from authors that don't like her#so like. w/eir and d/unn. and she is often also dumb (as she is at times in this one) but at least when the author#doesn't like anne...that interpretation at least tracks
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(m)ar(y) i stans will weep and wail about how it is so unfair that she is not remembered for being someone who, though sometimes took actions that were morally grey (or even more than that), always genuinely believed in the righteousness of her cause(s), and was truly kind and generous to her friends...and while i do actually agree with that assessment, if anyone ever says the same about anne (b)oleyn, without fail, those very same will shit an entire brick.
#like. i actually find that very funny . ‘but to know someone’s TRUE character you must judge them on how they treat their ENEMIES!!’#ok. so do that .#don’t be shocked and offended that no one takes you srsly if you only apply that selectively
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Can you believe the writers of S/ix wrote the line “politics, not my thing” about Anne B/oleyn and were like “yes, this is Feminist and Empowering”
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I can't wait to watch the Anne b/oleyn tv show so I can whine at all the bad costumes
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☆ ━ ━ OUT OF THE WAY ! can’t you see ANNE BOLEYN, the LADY of NORTHUMBERLAND coming this way ? I hear SHE is INTELLIGENT but also CUNNING. SHE seems to remind everyone of SOFT SILK, PINEAPPLE LILLIES, .&. VANILLA EXTRACT. hopefully one day SHE will succeed in HER ambition to BECOME INFLUENTIAL AT COURT & MARRY A NOBLE, but then again, the court is a dangerous place. one can only hope PRONOUN will keep PRONOUN head… ( NATALIE DORMER ) ━ ━ ☆ as written by SARAH ;; CST, SHE/HER, 25 .
THANK YOU for your application, SARAH, you have been accepted as ANNE BOLEYN. Please send in your account within twenty-four hours. Natalie Dormer is now taken.
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