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qiu-yan · 4 months ago

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i'll write a more in-depth post later, but imo one of the reasons for the level of disagreement in this fandom is that many of us readers can see what mxtx is trying to imply about ethics through her work and simply do not agree with her base premise. like i think that there are some conclusions about the various characters in mdzs that mxtx wants you as the reader to draw. you can kind of tell even if you don't agree with those conclusions. more importantly, though, you can also tell exactly what kind of moral philosophy mxtx (consciously or unconsciously) favors, and what she treats as the granularity of morality, so to speak. the most commonly-held positions in the fandom are those mxtx intends for the reader to reach using her own beliefs about ethics as fundamental axioms.

the problem, then, is when the reader does not agree with mxtx's unspoken axioms of morality. if you come into mdzs with a moral framework different enough from what mxtx has (consciously or unconsciously) used to write mdzs, then of course you're going to come to different conclusions regarding the characters or even the object lessons of the story.

or rather, in simpler terms: the rammies, mxtx....the rammies....

#mdzs #yanyan speaks #to go into a bit more detail i think MDZS itself was written with a heavily virtue-ethicist moral framework #like wei wuxian isn't a good person because he achieves good results or he adheres to moral rules or whatever #he's a good person because he behaves in the way a hero would behave. his actions are the actions of a heroic and brave person.#the consequences of his actions have very little to do with mdzs's ultimate assessment of wei wuxian's morality.#so if you the reader also favor this sort of virtue ethics then mdzs is the novel for you! we are all having a good time #but if you're one of the readers who favors utilitarianism or another more consequence-oriented moral philosophy...#then the conclusions mdzs itself seems to come to regarding the morality of the various characters will seem a bit more alien to you #and you might instead gravitate towards the fandom least-faves jiang cheng and/or jin guangyao #who do kind of get dunked on in mdzs itself #in all honesty i do think mxtx intended for the reader to side-eye those characters.#it just so happens that i don't agree with mxtx here.

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