#and you just know they're thinking about their own disneyland version of the characters because ~branding~

[weaselbeaselpants]

About fandom smexuality, aging-up, age gaps vs CSEM

The thing I wish people could understand is the debate over whether or not loli/shota/cub/drawn 'artwork' is inherently cp is a different debate than the fandom questions of:

" Is making a child character into an adult for *reasons* akin to irl grooming? "

" Is making a childincanon-now-adult-character date an always-was-adultincanon-character akin to irl grooming? "

" Is making absolutely everything into a sexy pinuplegalage adult good for me? "

" Can you write about these topics at all? "

" What is someone's mental age vs physical age when it comes to fantasy fiction involving shit like gods, monsters, shapeshifting talking animals having smex? "

" Is it wrong to dismiss a character's age when they otherwise don't act or look the age they're supposed to be +are treated as sexualized adult in canon? " ((kinda specific; I'm mostly thinking of Ariel and Jasmine being canonically 16 and 14 for some reason.))

All these above debates are worth talking about. And by talking about, I do mean having discourse over because it's unavoidable. No one is going to agree 100%, I think that's just the nature of sexualizing things or maybe just fiction in general. Something that may be tame to you can be triggering/traumatizing for another person -especially if that person is a survivor of any kind of ab*se. You are not responsible for their well-being, B U T, you ARE responsible for yourself and not being a dick to survivors. I also think it's such a 'your millage may vary';'depending on the situation in canon v fanon'-shit going on.

f.e. shipping the themepark young man version of the Mad Hatter with the adult woman Alice that walk around Disneyland and are their own characters apart from their animated counterparts but clearly are still meant to illicit those versions-- I can be sus and grossed out and designate it as one of my own notps all I want, same with Lydiajuice and Fluttercord. I DO find these ships genuinely 'icky' to me because I can't get over the association w the animated versions. BUT- knowing the context of what people are into it and how, I'm not going to call that shit amoral. It's not. I'm just allowed to dislike it. Cope.

Ultimately people are right that it's sus how we keep making underage characters into smexy adults to appeal to adults with sexual and/or shipping tastes. Like 'can we seriously not comprehend characters in a non sexual (or in fandom, non shiptastic) context EVER about anything?' is a genuine debate worth having.

People are also right that susbehavior can be excused with legitimate circumstances; like how coming of age stories inherently mean minors discussing sexuality because teens are sexually imbalanced and sex interested. There's a LOT of talk to be had there and shade to be delivered.

As an asexual who's dabled in, and has friends, who make and sell adult art for adults, I just don't see this problem[i.e. aging up minor characters into adults] as an inherent red flag.

Many honest nonpredatory people have adultified versions of their childhood crushes. There is a porno version of Alice in Wonderland where Alice was a sexually adventurous twenty-something getting down with other adults in furrsuits and singing. No really. Me in my new fangled respect for the og novel can be all "GAWD why do we have to make this sexy?" all I want -AND YET-- I'm also glad they made the porno version of the story for adults ABOUT adults. Good job. I'm sure lots of people looking for that thing loved it. Let cringe adults be cringe adults, damnit.

Sexuality and sexual preference (not orientation) IS messy and complicated even if you do all this by yourself and without a partner.

~End of part 1.

[jinxthejubilee]

The Disney Villain Recruiters Personalities Part 2

Continuing our journey, we have the lovely entertainer, Jack Heart! For those of you who don't know, the Disney Villain Recruiters was a Tokyo Disneyland-only show held every Halloween. Basically, the minions of famous Disney villains come to our world to try and tempt us to join their villain bosses.

- By the way, they are not the sons, daughters, or genderbent versions of the villains. They are just minions.

- Just a heads up by the way, I do not speak Japanese. Thankfully, there were a few that had English subtitles, but not a lot. These are just my interpretations of him based on the videos I've seen, along with my own personal ideas about his character. So, let's get started!

Jack Heart ❤

Serving as a guard to the Queen of Hearts, Jack Heart was once a simple jack of hearts playing card. As the main entertainer of the group, he's boisterous, friendly, charismatic, and knows how to put on a show. As much as he adores being the center of attention, he's not too prideful that he hogs the spotlight ALL the time. I have this idea that while Jack is essentially the clown of the group, he's an absolute nobody to everyone else in Wonderland. He's just another card guard, what else is there to see? So he desperately wants to stand out and be someone.

The Queen of Hearts: As her loyal subject, Jack adores his queen. So much so that he wouldn't mind if she cut his head off. I'd imagine that they have the standard "royalty and guard" relationship, he respects and fears her and she treats him like a normal guard. You know, threatening to cut off his head every five minutes because someone ate her tarts....fun times!

Alice: I'd like to think that they have an adorable 'confident big brother and confused little sister dynamic. If Alice ever goes back to Wonderland, I'd assume that Jack changed quite a bit while in the Real World. He's not a normal card anymore, but he needs to fit in if he doesn't want his head cut off! What is he to do?! Maybe he'd help her get out if it meant that he could leave too. While reading about Jack, I found that he talked about Alice a bit. According to him, it was Alice's fault for his head almost getting cut off. I'm not sure what exactly he's implying here. If he's talking about the 'Painting the Roses Red' incident, that's not quite accurate since the three cards are a black 2, a black 3, and a black ace. And he's not the red ace card that got dragged off from the croquet match. So I don't know what that means really. But regardless, he is quoted stating: "I don't think that I can hate her, because she's cute. I wonder if she'll come and fall in again."

Apple Poison: These two can't stop getting on each other's nerves. Apple is very mature, calm, and collected, Jack is loud and chaotic, they're bound to butt heads. They fight like brothers, arguing over the pettiest things imaginable, from their height, to their age, and Jack LOVES to antagonize and start a fight when he's bored. But they do respect each other to some degree. Apple is the oldest out of all the recruiters, he was in Disney's very first movie after all. And Jack is the best performer out of all of them, and Apple finds that impressive. Overall, Jack just likes to poke at Apple for the fun of it, it's funny when he's angry!

Mr. Dalmatia: Oh boy...if you think these two are chaotic on their own, you haven't seen anything yet. A playing card forming a friendship with a dog, who could've seen that coming? As the most extroverted members of the recruiters, Jack and Dalmatia formed a friendship rather quickly. They both love to harass Apple, share jokes with each other and the audience, and love to pull pranks and visual gags. The two of them are the chaotic duo that share two brain cells, pray for the others 🙏.

Malfie (Malfi): Not exactly considered the third member of the duo, but he's definitely an honorary guest. Malfie loves partake in making fun of his coworkers, but he's not too immature to go for silly little pranks. No, no, no. He's a little more...extreme. For him, it's go big or go home. He love causing chaos, but in a more mature-ish and mischievous way. He'll take on the task as either a way to get back at someone, or if it doesn't ruin his hair. He might be unreliable when it comes to that last part, so they better not hold their breath. Jack likes Malfie, he's a good friend, but he's not immune to Jack's tricks. Watch your mirror, Malfie. . .🪞

Eight Foot Joe: Yikes! And Jack thought Apple was uptight. The overworked, sleep-deprived, cynical worker and the fun-loving, hyper entertainer. As expected, it's like mixing oil and water. Though, even if Jack can be annoying, he's one of the few that can make Joe laugh. Besides, they surprisingly have one thing in common: they both have overbearing bosses. I'm picturing those two waking up in the ungodly hours of the morning, sharing coffee or tea, and getting work done. It's one of the few times when Jack would be quiet, aside from a few quips every now and then. I'm sure they'd tolerate each other more as time goes by, just give Joe a little time to adjust.

Pretty Scar: Definitely the third member of the chaos group, much to Dalmatia's dismay. Pretty Scar is just as hyper and excitable as Jack and Dalmatia. She likes joking around and laughing, she's just fun! I'd imagine them being fairly close, only coming second to Dalmatia. He actually ships Pretty Scar and Dalmatia together, not just because he likes to annoy Dalmatia, but he actually thinks that they'd be cute together. They go on shopping sprees together, you can not change my mind!

Veil: These two are seen quite a lot together, they seem to have a bit of a rivalry going on. Veil loves impressing the audience with her voice, while he wants to be the one man showman. I see it as a popularity contest, with both of them competing for the audiences attention and praise. One time, after she made fun of his pose, they argued, and she said: "I think I hate Jack more than I hate dogs!" Veil can be prissy, but he does admire her confidence and likes the fact that there's someone that he can consider a rival. Plus, he likes her voice, who doesn't?

Lady Hock (Hook): I haven't seen these two interact that much, so this is mainly based off of my own ideas. Although Hock likes to tease Apple too, she won't go as far as to outright ruin his day unless he really crossed her. That doesn't mean she won't find the pranks Jack pulls on Apple funny, but she's mature enough to know when to stop. She finds Jack immature, but fun. And I'd like to think that Jack looks up to her a bit, almost like a big sister. I mean, look at her! Look at her hook! Her outfit! Her confident attitude! She's so cool!

Ms. Hades: Another recruiter he's hardly seen with, but I'll try. I wouldn't put it past Jack to play around with her fire hair. Just anything you can do with normal fire, he has done with her hair. Roasting marshmallows, using the fire for heat related pranks, keeping himself warm by going close to it. She doesn't really mind as much. Ms. Hades is surprisingly chill about most of the things he does, but she does nag him once in a while. She's like the mom of the group, so he definitely doesn't want to anger her too much, and there is a level of respect he has for her. But that doesn't mean he won't try and play with fire every now and then. It'll be your fault if you get burned, Jack.

Faja (Farja): Oh, he loves her magic! It's perfect for pranks, whether she participates or not, he's going to use it. They clown each other ALL the time. His nickname for her is "Fajako, and he often makes fun of her poor magical skills" She likes to imitate his dance moves and his spunky demeanor. It's entertaining to watch them squabble because everyone knows that they're not being serious, most of the time.

Finally done! Took a little while for this one. Here's something to chew on before I release my Obey Me characters. Thank you all for patient! See you guys later! Byeee!

[bottombaron]

gwadhhsjfk ofc i want people to interact with my nerdy drunk rants, who else am i going to get attention from 😆

plus i need to get the word out to marvel because i'm not letting this one go

and just be clear, i don't actually hate comic!Zemo, so much as i'm disinterested in him. i mean the narcissism and supremacy is already a huge turn off but it's not like that hasn't been done in compelling ways with other types of characters but instead he's just kinda,,,meh to me. it's like nobody really knows what to do with him. he's not fun enough for me to get pass the cliché villain monologues and yet it's like they don't take him seriously enough to actually confront the turn-offs of his character.

he just isn't Vegeta enough to me iykwim. and to-be-sure a lot of this has to do with my problem with long running comics from big industries. you can't possibly get consistent character growth with a million different writers all with different stories to tell.

and what's sad is comic!Zemo had a lot of potential to be a great character when he was first introduced as the Phoenix. from there i feel like they botched it. Helmut to me had always represented the generational trauma of war. that's a really fascinating, under-represented, issue to explore that an orphan of a world war would uniquely be able to tell. and they just flopped it. Helmut had great potential to represent how war leaves lasting scars even to those who've never fought in it. how it bleeds into civilian life and how younger generations are radicalized in these war torn countries and the cycle continues. Helmut Zemo forced Steve to reckon with his hand in completing the cycle for a kid that was younger than Bucky when he fought his father. in a war that everyone celebrates as being 'one of the good ones'. that's compelling! (idk maybe the world wasn't ready for 'all war is bad and leaves victims on both sides' talk about the one war americans want to feel good about)

i really do believe that bringing in a next gen!Zemo is the solution to making it about that kind of story again. younger generations are the ones who hold their seniors accountable for their failings, it's the circle of life. you're a hippy in the 60s then a Reaganite in the 80s, and the 90s you're suddenly at the thanksgiving dinner table and your kid wearing a moth-eaten nirvana tshirt is screaming at you about how you fucked up the world and it's now up to them to save it.

it can be just the thing for comic!Zemo to gain some much needed relatability as a father that need to confront the kind of world he's actually giving to his bloodline. and also benefits readers of a younger generation to have a character going through a heightened version of their current struggles in a Helmut jr. (i'm thinking of a riff on Greta Thunberg. just fed up. fuck you and fuck everyone else. really eloquent savage rants to authority, smash up a Target, etc.)

kids and young adults these days are struggling under the immense weight of their parent's sins. exploring that kind of fury and confusion and helplessness in the face of overwhelming crisis' while the adults are just consumed with a lust for power can be cathartic for many people.

they just never told the kind of stories i wanted to read (and they could have told) with comic!Zemo and, obviously, i REALLY like mcu!Zemo and want him in comics and cartoons with a blinding passion. this feels like a good way to have both.

and the only fault of this costume is that it wasn't purple, how dare you:

just here me out

look, listen, marvel comics...i'm a lil drunk but here's a genius idea

you just do with zemo what u did with fury...make some story where he has/had a kid (maybe that he didn't know about or whatever idoooo not care) and THAT zemo is our mcu!zemo and then you can keep your annoying white suprema*ist!zemo for whatever reason you'd want to and also have the superior aNTI-suprema*ist (because fuck u dad) anti-villain!zemo based on the mcu version in the comic universe too!

bam

i solved it