#and yes astarion can be dragged kicking and screaming into becoming a better person whereas minthara can't
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Never has "you praise a male character for the same traits you hate a female character for" been more true than with how fans react to Astarion vs Minthara
#sophie.txt#like sorryyyy their traumas made them both worse people#they were abused and decided 'ok well i simply must grab enough power so I can be the abuser now'#and yes astarion can be dragged kicking and screaming into becoming a better person whereas minthara can't#but also astarion is able to confront his abuser in a meaningful way#while you can kill orin for minthara#her primary abuser (and the primary abuser for all drow) is lolth. a god#and wtf can u do about that#they were also both in extreme positions of privilege before where they were able to oppress and abuse others#astarion as a noble magistrate who used his power to further marginalize the gur#and minthara as a drow matron in menzoberranzan where she almost certainly owned slaves and did all the typical drow matron stuff#like. both deeply fascinating characters!#however. one is coddled by fans and cheered on when he's mean#while the other. well#like yeah they're both victims they're both terrible people they're both mean they're both sad wet and pathetic#if minthara was a man ppl would be feral over her genuinely#baldur's gate#bg3#minthara
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