#and with Wriothesley and Kinich it would be pyro because
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I change my vision depending on the selfship tbh
#riv rambles#I know some people have a set one but#I really do think depending on the selfship and the setting#the vision and the archon/message of said vision#would vary#like for example with alhaitham it’s electro because#I interpret electro vision wielders to be people of a specific ambition or goal#raiden and eternity or yae and freeing ei or dori and mora or kujo sara and being loyal to the shogun or cyno and upholding justice#there’s a hyper specific goal that all electro vision wielders are very centered and focused around that they are canonically vry ambitious#about achieving/maintaining#with alhaitham my selfship insert is very ambitious and dedicated to integration of desert children to the akademiya and just better#integration of the desert folks in the political system in general in sumeru#and with Wriothesley and Kinich it would be pyro because#I interpret pyro vision wielders to have one specific passion that they are very attached to#it’s not more so an ambition but more so a constant that they hold very dear and are passionate about#amber with the knights and klee with her explosives and lyney with magic and xiangling with cooking and yoimiya w fireworks + yanfei w law#bennett with adventuring and Hu Tao with business and xinyan with music and again the list goes on#anyway I think in the case of my selfship with wrio my insert is rather passionate about prison reform and in my selfship with Kinich it#centers around being passionate about the nation itself and natlan’s wellbeing/safety in an ongoing war with the abyss#and with ayato its cryo bc i think cryo vision wielders are people who have two sides of themselves constantly at battle#diona hates alcohol but makes fantastic drinks. kaeya conflicted with loyalty to his ancestry vs his nation atm. Eula conflicted with her#clan identity vs being a knight. Ayaka conflicted with duty vs living life as she pleases. shenhe and ganyu struggle between the adeptal#and human worlds since they’re involved with both#qiqi is alive but dead. freminet is loyal to the house of the hearth but wishes to also be free. and wrio ofc is in some ways a hero and#in some ways a criminal and those conflicting natures of his actions are at odds with each other very complexly so#ANYWAY#ofc again the list goes on but#for ayato I would consider my insert a cryo wielder because I think that being an arranged marriage#there’s conflict of duty vs personal choice and freedom but also not wanting to hold affection for him at first vs developing it anyway#labeling myself to one vision element for my insert all across the board I suppose leaves no room for the nuances of visions themselves
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I didn't expect a full on debate in the comments section of a YouTube short about hydro healers.
So let me put down some reasons that Kokomi will NEVER be as good as Furina on any of my teams. (Because all of my healers need to be able to multi-task)
Burn team
Kinich - DPS
Lyney - Sub DPS
Bennett - Quick fire Application, Battery for Lyney, sub healer, off field fire app (c6 was made for Kinich)
Kazuha - Sub for Bennett
Klee - Sub for Lyney
Furina - off field healer, tank for heavy hits.
(Having Kokomi on this team would have a chance of removing the Pyro statues, effectively ruining my burn team. Especially when I miss with the Kinich skill, and it sends me flying into the enemy. (It's a skill issue, I know). But the reason I explain this here is because this is my main team, and I will defend this team with my life)
Freeze team (I don't have this team come home, Wriothesley)
Neuvillette/ Mualani - sub dps
Furina - Healer, Battery, great water application when needed
Ayaka (for now) / Wriothesley - dps, freeze app
Mika - battery, ranged attacks.
Melt
Furina- Main healer, Hydro app if needed, can stop Hydro app before Vaporized happens. (Easy Hydro control)
Bennett - Sub dps, Melt, Sub Healer, Battery
Ayaka - Sub Dps Freeze for melt
Klee - main dps
Electro charged
Raiden - Sub Dps, off field Electro
Yae - battery, off field electro
Furina - healer
Mualani - main dps
Bloom / Hyperbloom
Furina - main healer, hydro app (controlled)
Kaveh -battery, quick bloom
Baizu - Sub for Kaveh, Shielder, sub healer,
Alheithem - Dps
Ororon / Raiden - off field Electro
Over charge
Furina Healer
Lyney DPS
Raiden - Sub DPS, off field Electro App
Ororon sub for Raiden
Klee Battery
I think my point to this is that her healing doesn't get in the way of my combos like most healers, in general, do. If you don't want hydro applied, you won't have it. But with Kokomi, if I rush up to an enemy, first I better hope to the high hells I'm not fighting cryo, but also bam hydro is slapped on them. Even teams where I can benefit from Furina being an off field dps (my little guys do about 8k damage a hit) I would rather use Barbara (c6) or Baizu as a healer than Kokomi.
But low-key, my Furina also has 50k hp and is about to be crowned, so of course she's better than the nonexistent Kokomi. My Furina also crits 40% of the time instead of being in the negatives like Kokomi. Like you really gotta reach to build a criting Kokomi.
Also, Furinas heal lasts longer, and she can actually run on water without ever having to worry, so that's a bonus.
I will admit though, Furina isn't perfect. Her healing doesn't heal the whole team, which is a down side, but usually I use my burn team which means only Kinich is taking damage because his skill is long af, and I can usually kill things with him so why would I need to heal my whole team?
Rifthounds.
Yeah, they suck, but I use Lyney, who can heal himself and Bennett, who is a backup healer, so nah, I'm good. I don't need that whole team heal. I do well with my burn team.
"Oh Ian, what if you are going against Pyro?"
Easy. My healers are all multi taskers, which is why Furina is so great, I turn her to sub dps and make my team a bloom team without having to switch characters and Benny can be the main healer until after combat. (Lyney has 3k attack so he doesn't actually need Pyro damage for them big hits)
What initially makes a good healer is their ability to heal, yes, but they become subpar when they ruin your teambuild. I'm looking at those of you who c6-ed your Bennett (I'm also looking in a mirror, but c6 Bennett has always been a good choice for how I work my teams). If your healer can do only one thing right, I guess that's fine, but I need more. I need adaptability, and Kokomi doesn't give me that.
My Furina has the lowest attack on my main team, being 1.7k, but depending on the circumstances she can go from healer to battery to sub dps to dps if needed. She's also wonderful for exploring as her waterwalk can be endless. And, let's not forget the endless attack. She doesn't have an end, like most character do, that combo keeps going, which is a nice touch referring to her part in the Fontaine story.
Ya'll out here playing chess with your healers, but I've been exploring Teyvat. Every team that I have built with Furina as my healer is adaptable. The only thing that could possibly make it better would be if I could squeeze a fifth character in my team so Albedo could shield me.
#genshin impact#healers#hydro healers#furina#sangonomiya kokomi#im always up for a good debate#i wasn't expecting it in a YouTube comment section where i couldn't get all of my thoughts out#yall are more than welcome to debate this#however any hate will be deleted 🥰
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the kinich pull is too strong even for you, huh. as he should !! CONGRATS ON KINICH !!!!!
and funny story during kazuha’s recent rerun—it was around my 8th 10-pull so i was confident that my kazuhaless era was finally coming to an end. from what i could last remember, i was guaranteed because i lost 50/50 during arle’s banner (the wrong pyro queen came home— dehya ily but why)— so imagine my surprise when JEAN popped up on my screen instead of kazuha???????? at first i thought i might’ve gotten a double 5* but nooooooo. of course not! that would be too much for lady luck!
i legit thought i was the unluckiest player ever. the only one to have ever lost the 50/50 twice. i was in anguish, got me questioning why even play the game (was i being dramatic? totally. it’s funny to think about tho). it took me hours to realize that, right, the reason why i lost the 50/50 was because i used up that guarantee for c2 furina 🥹 now i’m guaranteed but still kinichless <//3
with frustration over my abysmal luck,
kinich-less, kazuha-less, ayato-less, alhaitham-less, and wriothesley-less anon 🫶
I was pretty set on skipping him until I read his backstory and then I was like…..SIGH. Another deeply traumatized boy to add to my collection 😔 HES JUST SO BABYGIRL
SHKSJD I was literally reading this and scratching my head like….??? TWO standards in a row??? How’s that possible and then you mentioned the c2 furina and my faith was restored. Honestly c2 furina is a major win though I would loveeee c2 furina but alas. I could not indulge in that. One day perhaps. I am praying one day you’re not kazuha less bc he honestly makes abyss so much better I’d be lost without him truly. Actually I think the first time I 36 starred it was after I pulled kazuha HAHA
BUT. I hope you get one of the men on this list soon bc you deserve it. Hopefully it’s wrio soon 🙏 I too am stuck wrio less and it pains me deeply
#my asks#kinichless kazuhaless ayatoless alhaithamless AND wriothesleyless anon#wow that’s a mouth full HAHAHA
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