#and when carmy asked him what he would've done... 'i don't fucking know!'
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Honestly felt like that whole bit was a bad look for Sydney and Marcus. I mean yeah, Carmy messed up too, but I would describe his typical mental state as a dumpster fire so it was kinda like. Well. Yeah. But the whole home kitchen scene with Marcus and Sydney left me with a bit of a bad taste for two characters that I liked otherwise. And of course, characters are never going to be flawless humans who only do right, but. You knew throughout that entire scene that they were never going to apologize to Carmy, that they didn’t think they’d done anything wrong, and so it came off kinda holier than thou or entitled. And them calling Carmy a piece of shit bothered me, though that might be more personal for me. Like I felt like everyone in the kitchen was really starting to bond, that was one of the main plot threads, and then that scene happened and it all kinda felt like a lie. He’s a good cook but he’s a piece of shit. He’s a good cook but we don’t actually like or respect him. I don’t know, it made me sad.
Sorry for dumping this all on you!
Do NOT apologize, I'm hyperfixated pretty intensely on the Bear so talking about it is like straight serotonin :] Also please keep in mind that I love Carmy sooo much and I'm biased in his favor, but I try not to let it run rampant lol
It's definitely upsetting! It makes me think about how Carmy bases his self-worth and self-image on being a talented cook. It seems like he feels that cooking is his only redeeming value.
I really feel like nobody knows exactly how mentally ill he's been in the past few years or what he's struggled with. No one knows how abusive NYChef was, he doesn't tell anyone when he's having panic attacks, no one knows how terribly he's been sleeping. He doesn't talk about it and no one asks. Sugar does ask and she even knows to some extent, but the way she treats him is somewhere between comforting, nitpicking, and dismissive because she continually blames The Beef for all of his problems (which according to Carmy is just like their mother, which can't be good for him) or acts like he's just being stubborn trying to safe The Beef. To her, most of his problems could be solved if only he stopped trying to fix it. That's why he was so upset by her reply when he said he'd fix The Beef: "No one's asking you to." Well, no one had to ask him. He wants to fix it because it's important to him. But I digress.
He's got so much shit to deal with and things just keep getting worse. He's so clearly at the end of his rope by "Braciole" that, at that point, he's dissociating, he's not coping, he literally wants to burn the restaurant down. And it seems like no one wants to address it.
It's not that they don't care. But Carmy is so self-contained, so unable to describe how he's feeling; he holds himself together through pure willpower and runs away whenever he can't hide his pain. He lashes out instead of breaking down. He doesn't know how to ask for help and nobody can quite read him well enough to know when he needs it. And honestly, even if it's clear that he's spiraling, it seems like everyone has the same approach as Richie in "Brigade".
RICHIE: What's up? You blow a fuse or something? CARMY: No, I just, uh, felt like Michael was alive for a second. RICHIE: No, thanks.
He then immediately leaves the room, which he has a right to do. He's not in a good place to help Carmy so it would probably only hurt them both if he tried. But as a result, Carmy is left alone with his oncoming panic attack, and no justification can change that.
No one really knows the scope of his trauma. And they act accordingly, which is not only fair, but also healthy. And yet, it also sucks, yknow? It's got benefits and downsides. No one treats Carmy like shit. But Carmy still suffers, because he's in a bad place. So far, no one in his life is capable or willing to be there for him. Even Sugar has her own grief and life to deal with and her approach is certainly flawed.
All of this is to say that I don't think anyone has a real right to perceive Carmy or his actions in such bad faith.
You are an excellent chef. You are also a piece of shit.
This man is half losing his mind from grief, stress, trauma, anxiety, and self-hatred. Does that not at least explain his actions? I think it does. It's not an excuse, but it's certainly enough to change the context. You can't just sweep it all aside and act like Carmy's just lashing out for no reason. If he was doing that, then you could call him a man-child. But he's seriously suffering, and people in pain tend to lash out. That doesn't make him a POS. It makes him human.
This is probably the most biased thing I'll say: I think that most people expect him to rein in his suffering and punish him should it ever bleed out and affect others. I don't expect them to baby him, but I think he could use some gentleness. I think that it wouldn't hurt if more people took into account that Carmy is hanging on by a thread, one that was very close to snapping in "Review" and "Braciole".
I don't know. I'm not sure if this is entirely coherent. It's probably also way longer than you expected lmao?? I've got a lot of feelings about it...clearly :o
#the bear fx#the bear hulu#the bear fx spoilers#carmy berzatto#richie jerimovich#sugar berzatto#i just think of...richie when he says 'i didn't think he was- that he would-' and 'i should've done something'#and when carmy asked him what he would've done... 'i don't fucking know!'#that's the kind of thing you can only know in hindsight#god i have many MANY thoughts abt this show#srsly thank you for sending this ask it was great :)#anon#asks
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pairing : carmen berzatto x fem!reader
summary : carm is fucking flabbergasted to hear you've never had a proper valentine's day, let alone a special meal. so he has to rectify it as soon as possible.
word count : 2.28k
tags: the bear, jeremy allen white, fluff, valentine's day, carmen berzatto, carmy berzatto, established relationship, awkward carm <3, BEST MAN EVER.
a/n: got this idea from @aliaugustaa, i thought it was so cute so i just had to do it :3 who needs an irl valentines when u have ur little chef man, making sure u know u deserve the best amiright.
it all started when carmen had overheard you, syd and tina talking. he'd been in his office, trying to get some work done with the door slightly ajar, considering the air conditioning in the room was shit, when the three of you had struck up a conversation. he hadn't paid much attention to it. he occasionally tuned into the sound of your voice, of course, but the details of the words you were saying remained mostly lost on him.
until he heard the mention of ‘valentine's day’ come from tina. fuck. if he had to be honest, it'd been years since he'd last.. celebrated? valentine's day? before you, he didn't actually have any reason to do anything for it. carmen avoided the day like the plague, actually, with the bare minimum being done in terms of heart themed menu times. but even he knew that you would've been expecting a valentine's gift from him, right? you two had been dating for what, nearly a year now, so he had to think of something.
that started his panic in terms of what he was going to get you. he had no fucking clue. but what took him out even more was your words, as you leant against the counter with your notepad: “valentine's day is so overrated,” okay.. “i haven't had a valentine since i was like, fifteen, and i'm perfectly fine.”
perfectly fine.
his blue eyes darted quickly to the calendar on his desk, fixing onto ‘february 14th’ almost instantly. he can't bite back a smile at the heart you'd drawn around the date, with ‘v-day’ scrawled messily on it. but all the cuteness aside, he had.. one week. he didn't need to do anything amazing for you, no, considering you did think the holiday was overrated, however he felt there was an unsworn duty for him to prove to you that you were special, and deserved the best.
he sorted the week that he had left into phases. there were four phases, all of them intricately, messily, planned to ensure you'd have a great day. and he'd managed to do all of it right under your nose.
of the four phases, first came the easiest one. slowly easing you into the idea of valentine's day. you weren't stupid, no, you were quiet observant and god knows you would've picked up on any new behaviours from your boyfriend, so he had to try to integrate the day of love into work first.
convincing everyone to mention valentine's day, not obsessively, but repetitively to try get it into your routine wasn't difficult. it was a restaurant, for god's sake, of course they'd have some sort of valentine's menu, right?
so he got marcus to start making some particularly love themed desserts — “uh, sure. don't mind it.” you hadn't seemed to pay much attention to the ginormous order of cupid stickers out back, which worked heavily in his favour.
“yo, cousin, don't worry. she'll be walkin’ ‘round with the whole ass arrow by the time i'm done,” — richie was just as eager to get you in a lovey-dovey mood, with his passing comments about how eva was a total bachelorette and that all the kids in her class were gonna be throwing presents onto her desk.
there was no way to tell whether that was true or not. no one really asked.
“hey, cool, i'm feeling it,” — tina was also happy to help, being overly lovey with you around the restaurant. it was quite unlike her, but still, you didn't mind the affection. little hugs, forehead kisses from dear aunt tina weren't that bad.
“she's gonna realise that we're going overboard,” — syd was the most reluctant. she'd have much rather told you about what they were doing, as opposed to keeping it a secret. however carm was good at convincing her, and it was for a good cause too. so, she let it slide, pushing the valentine's agenda with little doodles of cupids or hearts on her menu designs. you liked them.
so that was phase one done. pretty simple, if carmy says so himself. and you didn't mention anything about it. perfect. he felt a little weird keeping something from you, but, of course, it was a good cause, right?
with phase one completed, he had to move onto phase two. this one was probably his second favourite of all of them. bringing valentine's into the house. valentine's day was all about love. he loves you, of course. it was the reason why he was doing all of this in the first place. so he thought the best way to do this phase was to get you in the mood.
you were very clearly confused by the romcom that was playing on the tv screen when he ushered you into the living room, but you didn't ask many questions considering how tired you were. “carm,” you began, brow furrowing, before you shrugged, moving over to settle on the couch. tilting your head over to the direction of the kitchen, your eyes found carmy bringing over the chinese takeout. it'd been a while since you two had indulged in it, but he knew full well it was your favourite. “you're the best,” his smug little smile told you a lot, but not about his little scheme and its phases.
“i know, babe,” he hums, bringing over the tray and settling it onto the coffee table. carmen shuffled over, settling onto the couch beside you, gently lifting your box onto your lap before he took his own. it wasn't unlike him to take care of you like this, but there was something more tender in how he was helping you. sweet, yes, but it was making you a tad bit suspicious. “you okay?” he asked softly, voice gentle and low, as a small little smile played on his lips.
“mhm,” you nodded, just snuggling beside him with the takeout box in your grasp. you two usually didn't watch romcoms, usually finding a good drama or sitcom however you didn't mind it. this one in particular was quite good.
and besides, carmen having his arm slung around your waist as you two ate was a perfect feeling. so despite your suspicions, you let him have this moment without asking him.
that was phase two done. not too shabby, really. richie and, actually, literally everyone in the bear was a tad bit sick of carmen's rambling about how amazing you were. they literally all knew it, since you were their colleague, but god, could this man talk.
the third phase was one that carmy realised perhaps should've come earlier. it was just getting you things that you liked, without you realising. which was harder than it sounded, considering carmen was shit at keeping things from you, and you were usually the one who looked at orders to the apartment. so he needed the help of his sister, natalie. she was so eager to help that it was a little overwhelming. “so what do they like anyway?” natalie asked as she pushed the cart beside carmen, eyes flickering over to his in curiosity. “bear?”
he was uh, stressing. he loved you so much, and—well, “god, sugar, i love her—” he ran a hand through his curls, eyes widening as soon as he saw the giant valentine's day display in the store. a quiet groan slipped past his lips and he bit his knuckles for a moment, glancing desperately over at his sister. “peach deserves the fuckin’ world, y'know? just wan’ make it special for her,” the pity, and adoration, in natalie's gaze softened her eyes immediately and she gave him a quick pat on the back.
“right,” it was her personal mission now to ensure that you and her brother had a perfect day on valentine's. she was sure of it. a small little grin played on her lips as she ushered him over to the display, and she leant against the cart. “okay, what would she like? something lovey? sentimental?”
“don't fuckin’ know,” carmen muttered under his breath, rubbing his temple as he looked over the many valentine's themed things available. holy shit, this was harder than he thought. he knew you so well and yet, what you'd like evaded him.
“okay, well,” natalie picks up a random white teddy bear, brows raising in question as she offers it to her brother. he grabs at it, squeezes it perhaps a little too hard out of frustration but slowly relaxes his tight grip on it. “okay, that one's going in.”
the shopping trip continued like this, with natalie suggesting things that she thought you might like, with carmy giving his wordless responses. it was kind of therapeutic for nat, to be fair. and carmen was getting the stuff he needed for you. he'd have to thank natalie after, considering soon after he was done with phase three, he was into the final phase. the actual valentine's gift.
this was probably his favourite part. of course, carmen was a chef by nature. so he knew a valentine's dinner was in order. he was sort of sick of hearing anything related to the saint, however he could relax with this part. he'd made sure that syd would keep you out of the apartment for at least three hours. having even gone to the lengths of giving money for you guys to spend, he was clearly working hard. he knew your palette, so well in fact, that he didn't even think twice about what he was preparing.
from what you loved to eat, to what you despised, carmen knew it all. and he wanted to spoil you in terms of what he made, so he also gave sydney strict instructions that the two of you weren't allowed to get any food. hey, he wanted you to have enough room to eat.
he'd planned everything immaculately, of course, but when he heard you and syd at the door, he almost panicked. the table was laid out perfectly, all of your favourite foods available. a flush filled his cheeks at the thoughts of richie's previous words: “shit, cousin’, you a fuckin’ simp,” rang through his head and he scratched the back of his neck nervously, sitting at the table.
“thanks, syd,” your voice called from down the hall at the door, your smile evident in your voice. it made the butterflies in his stomach flutter, and he shifted where he sat. “m'back, carm!” you were making your way down the hall now, nearing the living room where you assumed he'd be. he was not. “carm—?”
your brow furrowed, since he'd have mentioned he'd be out if he was going to be. “carm,” you hummed as you wandered into the dining room area, not looking into the room until you did, and your lips parted into an expression of shock. “holy shit.”
you're surprised you didn't burst into literal tears seeing carmen sat at the table, wide blue eyes lifting to yours from the table cloth. his cheeks were rosey, a sheepish expression adorning his lips. “fuck, this is dumb,” he got up, scratching the back of his neck once more, “i know you don't—oh, shit, peach—”
his eyes widened as you barelled into him, wrapping your arms around his frame as his hands slid over your lower back. biting his bottom lip, he lifted a hand to your face, just to see your expression. “oh my god, carm,” tears threatened to spill from your eyes, bottom lip trembling. carmen's expression only softener, and grew a tad bit guilty.
“oh, no, baby, don't cry,” his thumb stroked over your jaw, brow furrowing. carmen soon pressed a peck to your forehead, his hand cupping your lower back and bringing you into his body. “can't eat ‘n’ cry at the same time,” he soothed with a soft chuckle whilst he cradled the back of your head.
“so this is what you were doin’?” your mumbly words come all soft, watery, glossy eyes lifting up to his as you frown. you may be about to cry, sure, but it's for a good reason. “all this time? oh my god, is it because of what i said to syd and tina?”
a sheepish nod followed, his hands brushing away your tears gently. he smiled, nuzzling your nose with his own as he brushed his lips with yours, squeezing you tight against his chest. “uh-huh,” he muttered, “didn't notice earlier?”
“nuh-uh,” god, you felt kinda dumb for not realising. but also glad you didn't, since you wouldn't be as overjoyed as you are right now. you squeeze tight around his waist once more before you drag him back into sitting down. hey, you were hungry considering his little scheme. “god, carm,” you bite your bottom lip, looking over all the food. not to mention the valentine's themes decorations.
“so everyone was in on it?” you lean against the table, watching as carmen dished out your plate for you, his blue eyes lingering on the food before they lifted to yours when he heard your question. he gives a little nod, pushing your plate towards you. then, he pours you a glass of wine, all smiles. “god, that's why—oh my god!”
giddy, absolutely giddy, would describe you right now. over the fucking moon.
“and when you and nat went out? you guys never go out, holy shit,” you grabbed your fork, leaning against the table with a little smile. that smile soon became the biggest grin he'd ever seen. “babe, this is too much,” you frowned, gaze all fond.
“wait till you see the gifts,” he mumbled around a spoonful of pasta, avoiding your gaze and focusing on his plate.
“carmen!”
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