#and wasp has been in the sea of violence and contempt for far too long to forget it completely like this is WASP
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I need you to know every since I saw this reblog I have losing my fucking MIND RIGHT NOW HOLY SHIT????? YOU GET IT. YOU GET IT FR THIS IS INCREDIBLE. I am losing my mind. I am fucking pacing. I want to scream to the very heavens in excitement. Shrieking and foaming at the mouth because yes yes yes yes yes yes.
Calling him Wasp? Yes. I love him. I love that. I was also thinking this, but oh my goodness now it's tickling me because hehe "W" being upside down "M", and vice versa just like how Wasp and Mark are arguable the same "letter" AKA person just inverted morals. I love them so much, your honor.
I LOVE THE WAY YOU THOUGHT OF THE PLOT BECAUSE IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. I can see Cecil capturing Wasp if Angstrom accidentally openeed one last portal and Wasp came through. Wasp says something implying he's fought/killed/etc. I can absolutely see Cecil using Wasp a potential weapon-in-training (tortured to obey), since they are seriously lacking in the super powered forces right now. Wasp is fucking feral about this double torture because a) forced to help and/or be nice? He would rather bite someone's throat out, then b) his fucking pride of being captured by human forces he once killed.
I seriously want to reply of these because they're incredible but please picture me like so, in complete and utter excitement for every single thing you just said because i love this AU with all my heart and soul and I am so happy I went through with posting it.
I am actively short circuiting in complete and utter excitement because yes yes yes yes. I know what I am drawing next oh my goodness holy shit.
"they both hate each other so much, but it merges with hating themselves bc. they're the same person. what hurts one, hurts the other, no matter how different they are"
YES YES YES EXACTLY! There is this self loathing that exists when they're so callous and violent towards each other, and it's off-putting to witness. I think similar to how Wasp is jarring because he acts exactly like Mark except for the one almost invisible (at times) difference, it's jarring to see Mark being so angry at someone else, and so constantly full of loathing whenever Wasp is around. Even if it's a low simmering annoyance, a deep exhaustion, he's so callous and biting, in a way he would never be with anyone else. They just set each other off so instantly. If Mark (or Wasp) come back with a bruise, you don't know if it's hero related or because he was fighting with the other "twin".
Bonus points if: much like how Nolan flies is eerie because it's too smooth (while Mark makes poses that feel more natural) when he's around Wasp and pissed the fuck off, he flies like Nolan and Wasp do--entirely too smooth, unnatural-looking.
"mark "i can fix him" grayson vs mark "i can make him worse" grayson. one of them will drag the other to their side kicking and screaming"
YES YES YES AND AGAIN YES. EXACTLY THE POINT OF THE AU. I think if Wasp and Mark are ever working together on some hero mission, (Wasp being allowed to kill with monsters/creatures/etc) Wasp is scarily efficient because he aims to kill from the get go. And in a way, he's showing off. Showing how he's better in some way against Mark, because this Mark is so weak in his eyes, but he has his mom, his friends, his school, human food at a moment's notice (wholly believe Viltramite destruction means bye bye milkshakes) but the one thing Wasp has is violence and he wields it well. He refuses to let it go.
He wants Mark to crumble to see this way to validate everything he's done, so he's right, and what he's lost along the way was worth it.
I gotta imagine if Mark was ever struggling with an enemy (and Wasp was certain he wouldn't die or it's way earlier into their dynamic before the insane protectiveness while still full of hatred), he'd pull and Nolan and watch Mark, waiting for Mark to be deadly, to be something more (just like he is), and become even angrier when Mark wins at the last second, or struggles for far too long. He would probably ending the fight himself, scoffing at this Mark and hating him so much he can barely breath, choking on ire (because how dare you have so much more than me and be WEAK-). This could be how they meet???
"imagine wasp gifting mark other people's body parts like a cat leaving a dead bird in your room. he hands him a still beating heart, and thinks, hateful, "you had this coming. you're keeping me here against my will. deal with the consequences"... they grow to care for each other but in a very fucked up way. they still hate each other don't get me wrong, but they would now kill for each other"
Oh my goodness, this is so fucked up, I love it. Wasp hands him a still beating heart, a hand, an ear, a hand still twitching. I can see it, too. Wasp seeing where ever Mark is and gesturing come here and then shoving at it him, savoring when Mark pales in horror. Bonus points for imagery if Wasp's hands are bloody and in the process of catching the bloody whatever-it-is Mark's hands get bloody too.
Working with the other point, I can totally see Rex seeing this and being horrified and yelling at Wasp, "What the fuck is wrong with you?! You know what-", and Mark just instantly shoving out a hand to make Rex back off, glaring venomously. "Don't. Just Don't." And almost wanting to flinch at Mark's tone. Remembering this is Nolan's son for a second. What he can do.
Dysfunctional ass siblings with cain instinct pumped up to actively homicidal levels, actually lethal. Full of deep, deep loathing, and yet "lay a hair on him and I'll fucking kill you".
they can finish each other's sentences. they are not happy about it
YES YES YES YES YES. I KEEP SAYING THAT BUT IM LEGIT SOOO EXCITED AND DELIGHTED. They're so alike. Wasp and Mark go to comic con's together on a truce, they're delighted by the same issues and same shows. Especially Wasp, who might not be able to partake in comics/shows with the whole destruction and enslavement of humanity, and Mark (even tho he hates it) has someone to talk to about the stuff he likes. They both hate it.
They make the same jokes/same humor, they can guess each other's punchlines and end up snorting before it's even said. They both hate it so much.
They kick or punch each other out of the blue, too. Because they know they can take it out on each other, and it still hurts, this kind of self loathing, but it's so palpable, so poisonous.
OH AND THIS TOO:
wasp: oh, mom is still alive. y'know, i killed her in my universe. i could do it again in yours
mark, slowly turning around with a murderous look in his face: what.
I gotta imagine Wasp is unsettled by seeing Debbie alive again. Avoids Oliver. He can't stand whatever this is. Avoids them completely. He acts disgusted by them, but he's unsettled and scared of confronting the taste of regret and guilt. How it could consume him but he's not weak like that, he's not supposed to be, he can't be that way. Not him, he's stronger than that, he killed to be. He could kill her again, and he repeats to himself to be something smoothing. I could kill you, a soothing mantra to remind himself he is still strong.
ALSO YES EXACTLY. WASP BEING DRAGGED KICKED AND SCREAMING BY THE DAMN HAIR INTO REDEMPTION.
thank you so much for adding on because i am actively running on the fucking walls in incomprehensible excitement and utter delight. YOU GET IT.
EVIL MARK, EVIL MARK, EVIL MARK!!! I want to be coherent about this season but please picture me foaming at the mouth and running on the walls. S2 being what if Mark's just like his Dad? Insanity. I love this show. Anyways, AU where an Evil!Mark tries to make Our!Mark worse, and Our!Mark tries to make the other better. Something something confronting your idea of the worst version of oneself. Plus, tweaked black and yellow costume because I saw it and immediately went murder hornet lookin' ass and knew I had to draw it. Evil ass Mark. Horrible. I think he should be dragged kicking and screaming into redemption.
#and even then he's still a bit of an asshole#<- PREV TAGS AND YES#IT IS CRUCIAL HE IS AN FUCKING ASSHOLE#mark and wasp still hate each other but it goes from “kill you on sight” and “barely resisting ending your life with my bare hands”#to like “no one DARE kill you but i would still fucking strangle you”#it is crucial som sort of malice is still there#and wasp has been in the sea of violence and contempt for far too long to forget it completely like this is WASP#in my head he got his powers much earlier + nolan and debbie being separated! since he got powers he stayed with nolan mostly who-#-trained him rlly early and started instilling that be strong/be able to kill/colonizer bs from the get go#anyways YOUR MIND RAHHHHSO GOOD SO GOOD SO GOOD WJDKSJDKLASJDLJAKDL#invincible#wasp mark au / portal bound au / get redeemed loser au#get redeemed loser au#thisis what i am calling it jdkjkdsd#invincible au#prof yapper hours
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AJDHEUSUDJDJSUSYDJD THIS THIS THIS THISSSS!!!! YOU GET IT. YOUUU FUCKING GET IT I AM SCREAMING
OMG THE W BEING M UPSIDE DOWN,, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT, IT FITS SO WELL ASHSHDHDJSJSHS
wasp's pride... his fucking pride... i can imagine him threatening cecil, growling like a rabid dog, “i killed you once with ease, i watched the life leave your eyes, i will fucking kill you again if you don't let me go" and just, giving graphic descriptions of how cecil (and donald too, can't let the guy be forgotten) died
when he tries to attack, cecil uses the device. he doesn't try that again, but the threats are still there!
"wasp is jarring because he acts exactly like mark" YES EXACTLY!! i want everyone to not know which one they're talking to until they say something that can differentiate them. like- "oh, fuck, i have no idea which one it is. i can't ask him that'd be too embarrassing. what do i do what do i do- oh he's talking about taking over the world. oh he's- he wants to kill people. yeah i know who it is now"
identify crisis where they're not sure which one they are anymore
and--- wasp's existence makes everyone worry not because of the murder (i doubt mark would tell them. at least not at first) but because of how so ooc he makes mark act
andddd and and and and and. mark can't hug his mom anymore because he'd crush her. i mean sure he can softly hug people but he can't give big bear hugs anymore
the only person who would be able to take it is wasp. and everyone knows they're not going to hug each other (yet)
mark knows that he can just, not hold back with wasp. they fight, and his hatred for what wasp represents merges with the hate he feels for himself. wasp smiles, showing all teeth in a predatory way, and says, “fucking finally”
they stop before they destroy the entire city. wasp calls mark a pussy
“when he's pissed off he flies like nolan and wasp” oh my god YES
mark not only having to deal with everything he hates about himself being a literal human-viltrumite(? being, but also having to deal with the fact that he is just like that too, sometimes, deep down, depending on the moment
mark sees wasp and is reminded of his darkest moments, the times he almost kills, the memories of blood on his hands and a corpse beneath his fist
wasp is mark just like how mark is wasp. it makes mark wonder about a lot of things
mark is the outlier. does that mean he's an alternate version of wasp? he doesn't want to think about it
AND LET'S NOT FORGET WASP!! i am not leaving without putting him in the emotional (and physical) blender
wasp sees mark and is reminded of who he used to be. of who he could've been, had he listened to his mom's humanity
wasp sees mark, whose compassion gets his father to change, and wonders about how he would be if he had followed that path
and he hates it, because he hates him, but they're one and the same and hey, they're allowed to wonder, okay?
wasp wonders (they do a lot of wondering, these days) if mark thinks the same things he does. if mark has dreams, or nightmares, where they live in each other's life and actually enjoy it
wasp finds debbie. debbie hugs him, thinking he's mark. he doesn't have it in him to strike her, so he hugs her back. he forgets about it the next day, because he doesn't care about her. she's just another human. she was a pet, or so mark's dad said. why should he care?
why does he care?
mark and wasp working together on some hero mission YES YES YES YES YES
wasp shows mark how easily he can win fights if he just stops holding back. “you're stronger than them. why are you holding back?”
mark struggles with him, because he doesn't seem to remember that they're supposed to be saving people and not just killing the villains
wasp finds fights without brutality boring
wasp just,,, watching, like how nolan watched the fight with machine head. god. not interviewing, just flying there above them, so high and mighty
wasp has nothing. he doesn't have a family, doesn't have friends. he's stuck in another dimension, for fuck's sake — he has nothing
him making fun of mark, showing him just how stronger he is (because he doesn't hold back, and he has more experience with knowing just what amount of pain makes people crack. he gets things done. mark doesn't, not as easily, and he takes advantage of that), how weak he is in his mind, is a way of getting back at him
wasp has nothing, and it's all because of mark. the least he can do is torment him a little
mark is haunted by the image of his dad wearing his own face. wasp laughs at him, mocks him and cries — “we're just like dad,” he says, proud, and it sounds like both a curse to the teenager beaten by his father, and a blessing to the boy who wants to be just like him when he grows up
wasp also has sm more training. picture them training together and actually learning from each other. they pretend they already know what they other has taught them, but they both know the truth
they refuse to acknowledge it
"cain instinct pumped out to actively homicidal levels" you just described them with a few worlds, congratulations
there's just something about killing yourself while also loving him. something about how you fight for your life even when you want to die. idk
imagine the others reacting to this tho. there is a lot of comedy potential
everyone is so weirded out by them because they know about the cain instinct, they know how siblings act, but jesus fuck this is a lot
i can imagine them getting so physical w each other. nothing much, just a slap on the back, or resting their head on the other's shoulder when hurt, or immediately rushing to tend to the other's wounds, or high-fiving(? when something goes well... stuff like that
it's weird, because they do that without noticing (this would be in the "i think i actually care about this guy" era), but they still make it so obvious that they fucking hate each other
they could be sitting next to each other, arms touching like they're two little kids watching TV, while muttering the worst kind of insults towards each other. they don't even realize they're near each other
ALSO OMG, THEM GOING TO A COMIC COM TOGETHER??? YES???? ABSOLUTELY YES?????????
it is just so complicated bc. "this dude killed my entire family in another universe but. he- he has good takes. he has such good fucking takes oh my god He Gets It"
all differences are set aside when it comes to comics
until they disagree on something. then they're at each other's throats again
«“i could kill you,” a soothing mantra to remind himself that he is still strong» GODDDD THISSSS........
wasp's strength is his violence and mark's is his compassion
they are the viltrumite and the human half of one another
mark is the little human in wasp and wasp is the little viltrumite in mark
mark stares at wasp with something akin to pity. you were alone, his eyes seem to say. you are alone. you will always be alone
wasp doesn't cry (he hasn't cried since he was five), but he looks down, solemn. you are, too
dude i will marry you. i will actually marry you
do u have ao3?? if i ever write a fic i want to credit you bc you r giving me SO MANY IDEAS,,, AUGH
EVIL MARK, EVIL MARK, EVIL MARK!!! I want to be coherent about this season but please picture me foaming at the mouth and running on the walls. S2 being what if Mark's just like his Dad? Insanity. I love this show. Anyways, AU where an Evil!Mark tries to make Our!Mark worse, and Our!Mark tries to make the other better. Something something confronting your idea of the worst version of oneself. Plus, tweaked black and yellow costume because I saw it and immediately went murder hornet lookin' ass and knew I had to draw it. Evil ass Mark. Horrible. I think he should be dragged kicking and screaming into redemption.
#it is so important to me that they hate each other while also being willing to kill/maybe-die-idk for each other#prev tags here ->#IT IS CRUCIAL HE IS AN FUCKING ASSHOLE#mark and wasp still hate each other but it goes from “kill you on sight” and “barely resisting ending your life with my bare hands”#to like “no one DARE kill you but i would still fucking strangle you”#it is crucial som sort of malice is still there#and wasp has been in the sea of violence and contempt for far too long to forget it completely like this is WASP#in my head he got his powers much earlier + nolan and debbie being separated! since he got powers he stayed with nolan mostly who-#-trained him rlly early and started instilling that be strong/be able to kill/colonizer bs from the get go#anyways YOUR MIND RAHHHHSO GOOD SO GOOD SO GOOD WJDKSJDKLASJDLJAKDL#wasp mark au / portal bound au / get redeemed loser au#get redeemed loser au#thisis what i am calling it jdkjkdsd#<- prev tags#GET REDEEMED LOSER AU HAHA#I LOVE THAT NAME#invincible#avis' post except that it's a reblog#yeah I'll get a tag for that later
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