#and they had written a few wincest fics which i personally don't ship but i'm not gonna hate on it cuz i can see why people ship it

[bloopf1sh]

i was a respectful internet user today! when i saw something i didn't agree with, i simply--and get this--i closed the tab!

i didn't get mad, i wasn't disrespectful, i just closed the tab!

[compo67]

Twenty Questions for Fic Writers

How many works do you have on ao3?

266. I know most of that is The Chicago Verse.

What's your total ao3 word count?

Aha! I am at 2,100,134. (I used to write sooo much from 2014-2017.)

What fandoms do you write for?

Just Supernatural and its RPF. I dabbled in the MCU with Spideypool fic, but have since not returned to it, nor do I have plans to.

What are your top 5 fics by kudos?

They Met at the Photo Op Booth (J2): 2,082

House of Gold (J2): 1,680

Garbage (J2): 1,533

Like a Small Boat (J2): 1,447

Put Your Hands Where Mine Are (Wincest): 1,303

Do you respond to comments? Why or why not?

I try to, very much! Especially if a reader has a question or points out a specific thing they liked in the fic.

What is a fic you wrote with the angstiest ending?

Oh gosh, let's see. Probably "It Takes a lot of Water." Or maybe "The Shortest Distance." There's not really a "happy" ending in either of those fics. They're hopeful endings, but come at a large cost.

What's the fic you wrote with the happiest ending?

I'd say that's either Punzel or They Met at the Photo Op Booth. Both have such sweet, hopeful, joyous endings.

Do you get hate on fics?

I think it's happened less than five times since I've been writing for fandom. A couple (a few?) of people left rude comments on Back Pocket 1 because of how I chose to portray Jensen in that fic (he is close to 400 lbs in that verse). One person left hate on Model of the Solar System. I think someone sometime recently? (maybe?) left something negative on a TCV fic. So no, it generally doesn't happen to me, but when it does, man, I remember it.

Do you write smut?

Yep! I used to post a lot on the spnkinkmeme back in the day, probably around 2015. It was such a great time in fandom. Anyway, yes, certainly, absolutely.

Do you write crossovers? What's the craziest one you've written?

I do not. Except this one time. Yes, I wrote a Harry Potter/SPN crossover fic. But nothing ever came of it. I'm not even going to link it, I don't even remember the title.

Have you ever had a fic stolen?

Not that I'm aware of. Readers do let me know when they've seen my fic somewhere it shouldn't be (like on Goodreads).

Have you ever had a fic translated?

I have! It floors me every time I get a request to do that! :)

Have you ever co-written a fic before?

Yep.

What's your all-time favorite ship?

Oh, how do I choose between J2 and Wincest??? Ugh. I guess. Well. Considering... oh, hell. I don't have to choose. :P

What's a wip you want to finish, but doubt you ever will?

Oh, goodness. Well, I make it a goal of mine to not abandon fics. Unfortunately, it just happens sometimes. There's Letter to Follow, which has only been available on Patreon since I started writing it back in 2019/2020. It's my time traveling J2 fic. I remember writing for it during the very first few weeks of covid. I learned so much physics for that fic. But alas, I needed/wanted to move on so I left it where it is. I hope I can return to it one day.

What are your writing strengths?

Dialogue and setting the scene. :)

What are your writing weaknesses?

Plot. That goddamn plot. (And pacing at the end of a fic.)

Thoughts on writing dialogue in another language for a fic?

Love it. Love a challenge. Love how it works into the story.

First fandom you wrote for?

Harry Potter, back when I was 14 or 15 years old.

Favorite fic you've written?

Ahh how do I choose?! I can't. I have such a fondness for them all. <3

[ladyculebras]

happy wincest wednesday scorp!

what's the fic that converted you to wincest? not necessarily the first you remember reading, but the first that impressed you and stayed with you all these years?

Thank you for the ask! I love wincest wednesday <3

I am gonna talk about the first fic I read, because if we're talking about converting me to wincest, I gotta start with the first because I never considered wincest as a possibility until I stumbled upon my first wincest fic (keep in mind, I was 13-14 at the time). I specifically remember thinking that I thought Sam/Dean had a buddy cop dynamic but they're brothers, so you can't ship them, and then I clicked on an Angel The Series/SPN Crossover fic (fun fact: SPN was the show I used to replace Angel, because after the finale for ATS aired, they showed a little trailer for SPN coming next fall, and I decided to watch it because of that trailer), that had Sam/Dean as vampires and also incest and I was SHOCKED. I wasn't offended by it but I didn't realize that people would go there!

After that, I'm not sure....I don't think I sought out fic but sometime around Dead Man's Blood, people were writing more Sam/Dean fics and I was more aware that there was a group of fans that really shipped them? And I wasn't ~into it but I also was curious about it. I didn't really like gen or any other ships so I started poking around at the fics to see what they were doing.

I remember one fic that sticks out at me that I read after Devil's Trap but before season 2, where Sam/Dean recover from the car accident and got together. I don't remember the name or much of what happened in it, honestly, except for Dean got a Camaro (which is BLASPHAMY now but I don't think people realized just how much the Impala meant at the time) but somehow it sold me on wincest, lol. I was like "aww. I like this. Maybe I'll read more." I remember I was very into flipmontigirl, who wrote one of my favorite Sam/Dean get together while Sam is still grieving Jess. I think it was called Fishing Through the City Phonelines? Unfortunately they've privated their fic and I can't find it anywhere. They wrote a lot of in second person POV which really worked for me but not for a lot of other people.

With that in mind, I'm going to rec a few fics that I read in between the s1 and s2 hiatus that I do remember.

on the banks of the tiber - A Sam/Dean werewolf AU that heavily influenced my characterization of Sam. It's set near the end of season one and it's not actually incest, it's gen, but I guess today it'd be called weirdcest, or gencest. It has a lot of vibes and it felt very shippy despite not kissing. It's what I want for Sam/Dean, basically.

and we are here as on a darkling plain - Very early season one fic where Sam gets demon powers and Dean gets angel powers. It gives Good Omen vibes, I think it has more in common with that than the show but I thought it was hilarious and delightful. It's very FUN, which was what my 14 year old brain wanted for wincest but I enjoyed most of what this author has written and I wouldn't have gone on to explore more wincest fic if I didn't read stuff like this.

Transmutation - Sam/Dean/Jess. This is messy and I really love the messiness of all parties involved. Jess survives but gets half her face burned off and insists on going with Sam and Dean to hunt the YED. Sam copes badly. I love her characterization and I know you asked for wincest but it was absolutely one of the very first few fics I read in this fandom that really worked for me.

Conversations Over a Front Seat - This is a very typical fic, insofar that I don't think it's anything new to anyone now, but it's Sam and Dean, in the Impala, trading stories, secrets, jokes, fantasies, nd eventually confessing incest feelings. It's one of the very first fics I read that made me go "yeah okay, I guess they have feelings for each other, I mean who blame them?" I loved reading them coming to terms with their incestous feelings and struggling with them at the time.

Factum Amoris - One of the very first fuck or die fics I've read. In this one, Sam/Dean get trapped in a haunted house and the only way they can escape is with ~an act of love, which Sam determines actually means sex. Dean doesn't get why he is trapped, because he's no virgin but Sam figures out it means he's never had sex with someone he loves. It sounds tropey but I thought it highlighted the emotions between them pretty well. I remember reading this and being somewhat emotionally undone by the fact that the only person Dean loves this much is brother and my heart just sort of breaking.

devil's tips his hat to me - I swore I reread this earlier this year on LJ, but it was deleted. Thank god for sinfuldesires archives on AO3, though. This is Sam/Dean vampire AU where Sam becomes a vampire in late season one, and Dean copes. This was a fic that when I first read, I thought it was horrific and it made me feel sad but also sick and also kinda fucked up (I was 14 at the time; if I read this for the first time today as an adult, I wouldn't feel this way, but I do think it's a bit of a horror story). It stuck with me, though, and I kept rereading it. There was a lot I admired about it, the prose, the downward spiral of it all, the style choices and atmosphere. It enshews quotations entirely, which worked for me, but it won't work for everyone else. It made the dialogue hit different, though, in a way I can't fully describe. It feels almost dream like. I think it was massively influential for me, directly inspired large chunks of his shoulders blot out the stars so...I am very sad it's gone from LJ.

I didn't mean to rec so many fics but I guess I was thinking of all the fics that sort of stuck with me when I was getting into wincest. Not the most defining ones, or the most popular ones but the ones I found while I was trying to search for stuff to read and really worked for me and helped convince me of the ship, tbh.

There's other stuff. I remember reading a ton of weecest fics but one of them (Things My Brother Taught Me), I can't seem to find anymore, and another one I forgot the name of. If anyone remembers the Television Without Pity boards, I used to read the SPN recaps, then reading the forums there. They had their own little subsection for discussing specifically, which eventually got DELETED sometime around season two. I guess it got too freaky, since TWOP was pretty mainstream. I remember I first read the Flowers in the Attic comparison there. Another thing that really influenced me was an SPN podcast I started listening to, EVP. They'd read several fics out loud and it was great for finding recs. I used to listen to it before falling asleep. It was a really great and fun resource to have.