#and theres nothing wrong with that but saying he isnt fleshed out in canon just.. isnt exactly true
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floralovebot · 3 years ago
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I truly think Sky is more fleshed out than the other Specialists (sans Riven) but people ignore everything about him because he's easy to hate. It's not that Rainbow didn't flesh him out, it's that he's hard to like and it's extremely easy to just dismiss anything that could make him more nuanced and interesting.
And I think the way the fandom talks about him proves that. You have people saying things like, "why didn't he tell his parents or Diaspro that he didn't love her" or "he grew up in a good family and doesn't understand characters like Riven or Musa", but then
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Or the idea that Sky doesn't understand his privilege meanwhile his entire first season plot arc was him being hyper-aware of his privilege and using the switch with Brandon to get away from it. Or the idea that Sky doesn't care about Brandon's life by making him a squire despite the fact that it's shown multiple times both in the series and in the comics that his father is the one who hired Brandon and the one who's adamant about Brandon needing to risk his life to protect Sky. Or even the idea that no one ever calls Sky out when almost all of the fights he has with other characters start with them being mad at him and calling him out. Even the idea that Sky's response to Riven saying he had everything handed to him being something along the lines of "I worked for everything" is still misconstrued as him not recognizing his privilege when it was actually him recognizing his privilege will make others underestimate him and taking it out on Riven.
Sky is nuanced, he's just hard to root for. Most people in this fandom can't relate to his struggles (yes, he has internal struggles just like the rest of them), and even the people who can relate to him still find it hard to like him due to every little problem he has. Meanwhile, most of those problems were either resolved or getting resolved by S4 but Nick reset all of their personalities so now we have to sit through the same three issues with him all over again. It's easier for us to say he hasn't learned anything or that people don't call him out enough because we're watching the same problems over and over again. And you'll notice the only people who say the same things about the other characters are the people who really hate those characters (ie. Stella haters using the later seasons as proof for her being a "brat"). The entire mix of Sky being hard to relate to, having a lot of undesirable traits, and the constant resetting of personalities has led a lot of people to think that he's not as fleshed out as the other characters but like,, that isn't true lol. It's as true as saying Riven isn't fleshed out just because he was an asshole and his personality gets reset (which is actually a thing Riven haters would say when he wasn't as popular; "Riven is still being an asshole just like he was in s1, he's not actually interesting you guys are just attracted to abusers", an actual thing I've seen people say).
#again ik he's easy to hate but dont let your hate of him let you mischaracterize him In Canon#obviously i dont care what you do in fanon im talking specifically canon and things like metas yknow?#it Is easy to expand on sky's canon background and personality you guys just dont like him enough to do it#and theres nothing wrong with that but saying he isnt fleshed out in canon just.. isnt exactly true#not liking a character and not paying attention to them doesnt mean they arent fleshed out#it just means you hate them and ignore them#i remember writing something exactly like this for riven a couple years ago#because he wasnt as popular as he is now and back then people loved to use the abuser bad boy thing on him#and i remember writing a post about why riven is an interesting fleshed out character but people dont realize it because they hate him#riven hate has obviously gone down so now people do realize it#even the people who dont like him can recognize that he was fleshed out enough for a winx character#but skys a different story for a lot of reasons#winx sky#a lot of people also dont realize that skys i worked for things response to riven#was directly because riven kept underestimating him as just a weak prince who wouldnt be able to do anything cause his parents got him in#sky trying to defend himself by saying he worked for things was him being tired of riven undermining his skills just cause of he's royal#it wasnt about him not recognizing his privilege or not understanding rivens pov#it was literally a result of their at that point multiple year long rivalry that was mostly riven being an ass#like.. you can't take that scene out of their context because it wont make sense#when you take it out of context it just looks like riven being an asshole and sky being an oblivious rich person#that scene is integral to their dynamic and rivalry and taking it out of that deludes it too much#okay im done ranting about sky
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pinkseas · 3 years ago
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bads frustration with the vines being cleaned up, “so disappointing, its all in preparation” god you can HEAR it and how upset he is im so. im so. im Not sane
the red banquet advertising LMAO was nervous but  i feel better now. 
no but the way bbh is still borderline fond of quackity even while corrupt. the way he shows little to no mercy to ANYONE he used to care about, towards his own friends, especially those going against the egg, and comparatively he’s so much easier on quackity, trying so hard to make him understand, really trying not to hurt him. god
remembering what the basement used to look like is SO jarring. one of my first ever streams i remember seeing it virtually untouched, i think one statue mightve been red ??? and NOTHING else. its so. its So.
i know the whole thing with nether blocks being used is mostly because of how well the colors all work and the lava but MAN does it make me think. especially considering my favorite nether worldbuilding has to do with the nether itself being one massive sentient being netherrack flesh walls etc etc idk !!!!! makes me Think. love it so bad
they built it all so nicely starts crying. “i wonder if we have enough seats for everyone” i know they literally murder bitches but STARTS CRYING
egg please dont speak backwards when i dont have access to what youre really saying Thank You
bads frustration the way he cows with whatever its saying “I know! i know. you dont have to say it anymore” WHAT IS IT SAYING IM SOOOO. im so.
i still swear the shroomlights around it make it look like petals unfurling
“eggactly according to plan” i hate it here. god it really is still them. like i know thats mostly cc bbh but im Choosing to interpret it as the characters still being themselves even with the eggs influence. Man.
“theyre gonna have no other choice but to love it!” hmmm. 
bad exasperation with skeppy. crying in a different way now
officially pausing my quiet bloodvines playlist in the background to really hear this god help me
“i wanna be next to the egg” NO inflection, completely monotone. everyone was affected differently but for the most part they kept their personalities and emotions- skeppy is just. almost gone. no emotion, no care, nothing but wanting the egg. it makes me SO curious about how the egg works and what it does i swear
“we both know theres nothing wrong with the egg and the eggs great and all” the way bad is literally only here for skeppy i am GOING to cry. i cant even remember what extent is or isnt canon i just know in my mind bad broke free of its influence, is probably far more resistant to it now, and is still there because his best friend loves the egg and he wants his best friend back. god.
still caring for and being worried about skeppy but at this point its so far in and hes starting to get more frustrated/give up hope
“lets go for a walk” literally just wanting to spend time with him GOD. how is there another 20 minutes im gonna Die
skeppy being so far gone and just. not giving a damn. its so jarring but also ive only seen skeppy like this? my 2nd or 3rd stream was BBH and puffy trying to get skeppy back to himself after he’d first been corrupted, the one where they had that little underground house and the big skeppy face in the wall and bad was upset because skeppy wasnt his best friend anymore. but i think i vaguely recall him at least pretending to be a bit more emotional or cheerful, in a cynical sort of way ?? and now its. total carelessness and apathy.
“all of this, all of this is for him, and its so frustrating. i know that egg is not evil and everything and everyone is just misunderstanding it” GENUINELY cant tell if this is genuine or just him convincing himself. like obviously the egg is awful but we never learned its actual intentions. obviously the banquet was mostly death but i really, really have to wonder. there are SO many things 
“i dont like how much time he spends by it now, he literally just hangs out by it” implying the slow build of him hanging around the egg itself more and more and how its making him worse. obviously being physically close to the egg is REALLY bad and corrupts you much faster but i have to wonder if part of it is also skeppy becoming more corrupt the more the others serve the egg ??? idk idk idk thats NOT a full thought
SKEPPY ABLE TO REPAIR IT i did not know that. holy shit
the skeppy “do you wanna take a picture? i mean you keep looking at me” its cruel but god. he’s really still in there too its not full apathy hes not fully gone just wildly fucking corrupt. GOD.
bad sounds So Sad he cares so much more about skeppy than the egg holy shit. step aside c!clingyduo 
skeppy being VERY aware of the egg and area and what has and hasnt been touched.... so in tune with it.... i love it here
NOT THE OLD STATUES BAD PLEASE. “yeah. i look good.” SKEPPY.......... ohhhh my god and bad saying it looked better before. fuck. Fuck. 
i have a weird thought/hc about the egg running off of wishes or willpower of those corrupt or something and skeppy wanting his friends to be safe and abandon him so the egg can die vs bad just wanting skeppy and it working horribly. skeppy being more and more cold and corrupt as hes trying to drive bad to abandon him, bad pushing closer JUST wanting his friend, both fueling the egg up until bad finally gives up, decides its not worth it, and inadvertently frees them both. and it REALLY doesnt have much ground in canon but this is fueling it just a little bit. skeppy REALLY doesnt want bad talking to him.
 bad not giving a damn or even flinching or moving anytime he gets burned
BAD SHIFTING AND BEING SO EXCITED WHEN SKEPPY MIGHT TAKE THE WALK EVEN THOUGH ITS JUST TO GET LEFT ALONE. NAURRRRRRRRR. JUMPING UP AND DOWN AS SKEPPY ACTUALLY MOVES. FUCK.
bad literally praising the egg vs telling it to shush when he just wants to be around skeppy GODDDDD
okay skeppy interrupting the egg made me assume he couldnt hear it but that solidifies it i think. he couldve been doing the threatening “who are you talkign to” as in who are you daring to shut up but i genuinely think he cant hear it, it doesnt seem like he was being more threatening until he realized bad WAS talking about the egg
skeppy also not giving a damn about the burning in spite of having No armor and definitely taking damage, “i like how it feels” ohhhh my god. bads tired, quiet “of course you do” FUCK ME
skeppy getting all dramatic about the dance and bad shutting him down LMAO
bad REALLY trying to get skeppy to spend less time around the egg, “do you think thats like, good for you?” its all for skeppy everything is for skeppy fr. 
TELLING THE EGG TO SHUT UP AGAIN. 
“okay done come back” no hesitation, bad still arguing every time because hes still fighting for him in any way he can
“It’s not about power, it’s not about control, I’m your FRIEND Skeppy” “I mean, you can think that” holy SHIT. cant tel if skeppys voice sounded more apathetic or more sad. it almost sounded sad but i might be imagining things 
“What, that egg, that egg is gonna be your FRIEND?” GODDDDDDDDDD
“The egg is more than life itself, dont you understand? dont you feel it? no, you wouldnt understand” eyes WIDE open
“youd rather hang out on this egg than on me??” giggling thank you bbh for the slip up i once again feel better now
“Skeppy, tell me im your friend right now” the way theyre arguing i have NO clue whats in skeppys head right now but bad being so furious and fed up and desperate, EVERYTHING hes done with this egg has been for skeppy, every bit of it for their friendship, and now skeppy is saying every bit of that effort and everything hes done has been for nothing because they arent even friends.
 the talk of sacrifice ohhhhh my god. oh my god. oh my God. this whole conversation is so. holy shit.
“i just dont want you next to THAT” the way hes willing to spend so much time with/around the egg but even now doesnt want skeppy near it. fuck.
THE SELFISH TALK... STEP ASIDE C!CLINGYDUO
the way selfish prob hits so hard because in his mind he PROBABLY hates this is hurting so many people making so many sacrifices ALL for skeppy and their friendship, not at all for him, ohhhh my god. theyre both right and theyre both a little wrong and i hate it im soooo
“IT’S JUST A STUPID EGG SKEPPY” he literally does not like the egg he literally hates the egg he doesnt care for it every single thing has been for skeppy hes not FULLY under his influence he does it for skeppy. THE FUCKING HORROR IN HIS VOICE AS HE GASPED AND SKEPPY DIED IM SO. IM SO. IM SO.
the “what happened, what did i do” the way THAT in itself was so influenced by the egg, maybe consciously maybe not but definitely by the MONTHS of serving bad did all for skeppy im so. im so. im sooooo. 
i cannot for the LIFE of me tell what is going on in that ending 
“please actually answer me. bad?” holy shit.hjoly shit. holy shit., 
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