#and then jamil is jafar but has similarities to jasmine and makes references to the genie
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riddlerosehearts · 4 months ago
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love that they paralleled kalim with jasmine here by having him accidentally steal juice LMAO
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darkscorpiox · 2 years ago
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TWST – Villains are the heroes who have failed and fallen (spoilers)
Riddle is the Queen of Hearts, but also Alice. Both as children have faced a matriarch who imposes harsh and difficult rules to follow. The difference is that the latter fought back and the former did not and thus, had internalized all the unfair expectations of his mother and become like her.
Leona is like Simba during his self-imposed exile: putting a distance between their family and home to avoid confrontation due to some past “bad deed” supposedly done by their own hands (Leona’s unique magic -> Mufasa’s death) and contenting with lazing around. While Simba accepts to face the past and to carry the responsibilities entailed by kingly duties, Scar refuses to acknowledge his flaws and to become better.
Azul, while a twisted version of Ursula, shows similarities with Ariel. Both feel like they don’t fit in with other merfolks and possess a thirst for knowledge, notably concerning the surface world. Leona has destroyed all of the contracts he has spent years working on like King Triton has done with Ariel’s treasures which push both of them over the edge (overblot -> signing a contract with Ursula).
Jamil is Jafar, Genie, Aladdin AND Jasmine all in one. On the surface, Jamil appears to be similar to Jafar, but as the Scarabia arc progresses, the more we know that the core of his issue is his desire to be free (like Genie) and to rise from his low-class social status (like Aladdin). Kalim has a kind disposition, but some of his well-intentioned actions leave much to be desired when it concerns Jamil like the sultan (whom he is based after) who tries to set Jasmine up with a prince so that she can still be taken care of after his death even though it makes his daughter feel trapped in her own house. Jafar wants to be the strongest (freedom -> power) and, tricked by Aladdin, wishes to become a genie which ironically binds him to a space more restrictive than before (genie -> overblot; Jamil’s phantom might symbolize his true abilities which are limited by his country’s laws).
Vil’s problem is that he wants to be perceived as more than a villain (beautiful outside AND inside). The sad thing is that by trying so hard, he ironically appeared to be more and more villainous-looking (sabotage -> old woman disguise and attempted murder; it might explain his phantom). While taking charge during his stay in Ramshackle Dorm (a parallel to Snow White living with the dwarves), he lorded over the first years like how the Evil Queen did with Snow White at the beginning of the movie. (deeper analysis)
Idia is stuck in a position he doesn’t want. Hades, Hercules AND Meg also have the same problem. However, while the former tries to solve it by taking things from others, the latter two learn to see what really matters. In addition, Idia’s position is more like Hercules’s and Meg’s than Hades’. Like Hercules, he wanted to belong and believed being a hero would fulfill that wish; and just like Meg, he had developed a defeatist attitude due to a past loss that had deeply affected him (Ortho -> Meg’s ex-lover).
Malleus is isolated, sheltered and destined from birth to rule a kingdom like Aurora. His entourage at school consisted of only three people (Lilia, Silver and Sebek -> the three fairy godmothers) and his whole world changed after meeting a “stranger” (Yuu -> Phillip). If we follow the narrative of the movie, Malleus might become distraught at the idea of not seeing Yuu ever again which will leave him vulnerable to a fate others tried to protect him from (overblot -> spindle). I don’t know if they’ll put some references to Angelina Jolie’s Maleficent, but I can see the bitter resentment for taking away from them what they considered important to them (Yuu -> wing). 
EDIT: one on Rollo Flamm
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tsukikoayanosuke · 4 years ago
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So you wanted to to have that scene but couldn't because of maturity. (about keep the Jasmine-Jafar scene rawest form)
(and sorry my English isn't very good)
You could always do one shot. (If you don't know it is, here. A one-shot (or oneshot) is defined as a fanfic that has only one chapter.)
It's a win-win for everybody.
Referring to this ask
For context, we're talking about Jonah and Jamil conversation before Kalim vs Jamil duel in Chapter 130
I can make this into a Gaiden fic of you want, I'll think about it. Though it might be hard for me.
Since I already planned from the start that while there will be something similar to Jasmine-Jafar scene with Jonah and Jamil, I just can't make it like in the movie. Jafar is... Creepy (for the lack of better word), first of all. Second thing, it wouldn't make sense in context. Jafar is "flirting-threatening" Jasmine, wanting to make her fall in love with him. It wouldn't make sense for Jamil to do something like that to Jonah or Kalim. Jonah has nothing and Kalim is on his hate list.
Thirdly, even setting aside the making her/him fall in love", I really want to do something more with the parallel between Jonah-Azul and Kalim-Jamil betrayal conflict. Jonah and Jamil both betrayed Azul and Kalim's trust, the only differences is that Jonah feels guilty while Jamil doesn't (not yet perhaps). The conversation is supposed to be rather intimate/reflective compare to Jasmine flirting to distract Jafar so Aladdin can get the lamp. And speaking about distraction, there's nothing for them to grab, why would Jonah need to make a distraction?
I hope this can be a good explanation. If you have more question, just ask.
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