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Revolutionary Girl Utena 34-39 And The Adolescence of Utena
So hot diggity damn, I finally finished the Series and it’s Sequel movie. (Perhaps it’s not truly a sequel. I will be graceful and acknowledge this as a possibility as I gleefully ignore it because hot damn that movie makes Negative Sense if You haven’t seen the series before (Which I know factually because I’ve watched it multiple times without having seen the series in full proper. That dance scene man) but makes immense amounts of sense if viewed as a sequel. I’m gonna get around to it sooner or later I think, probably sooner since the subject is on my mind, but still) Shit went down. So much has gone down, but the one thing that I can say is that it I am so glad to see that Akio got dunked on in the most pleasing way by the Lady who consistently spat hot fire the entire series.
Also that Dance Scene was SO FUCKING GOOD, LIKE HOLY SHIT GUYS.
Proper Essays and the like to come as I Do a run through thoughts and such, since I got a bunch of them.
Episodes 35-39
Episode 35
Oh Boy prince time again. Oh god. Oh god they changed it again.
I find it interesting that Dios is Still framed pretty sympathetically. He's a solid A plus good guy, but shit goes so horribly wrong that he just...stops. Hm. Wonder if there's a reason WHY he warped so? It doesn't excuse anything but...
Wait, did Utena start recalling everything? Hell of a way to regain your memories.
I do not appreciate the crotch shot here following that last ep.
GODDAMNIT AKIO. YEAH TAKE A WALK AWAY.
This whole scene feels awkward.
Oh damn her face flattened out like whoa. She mad.
Was it Eternity? That warped him...?
What's with the car...?
Also, ….Ok, toga. Car Pyramid too.
Also, is Akio...hm. Oddly Passive? Hm.
Give her a present, say it's from me, and god damnit akio please stop being weird for like 10 seconds.
What's with the carrot in his pocket.
Earrings? Jessu wakaba.
...Wait, was this to tilt TOGA? But why would that do it?
Prince Mystique. I think this shit was actually supposed to til him.
I think Akio actually fucking played Touga. HE THOUGHT THEY WERE PARTNERS AND YOU GOT PLAYED!
Yeah, Touga is fucking TILTED.
He looks so put off right now. Like he's...off. He's off in a way the others haven't been.
Saionji here reading him like a book. Jesus Saionji is tearing him a new one.
Used people like tools and it made you strong IN THE PAST.
Shadow Girls? Feels super early, but it's the second half of the episode. But what's the deal with fish...Oh, fish in the sea. Girls exist to be exploited? Huh...Toga I guess....A Mermaid? Oh, a fish and a personality
LEFT THE BED. OH NO. The earrings. Also, I dislike the soft lovely lovey dovey shading here. Just feels...like liesssssssssssss
Anthy.
He thinks he won the game. He wants her to be a princess.
A princess who will revolutionze the world.
Oh Shit the elevator! It's been too long.
Is it the bros time?
Never come out of this coffin. Is everyone dead here?
Saionji: YOU LOVE HER BRO?
TOUGA: Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Final Letter? Hm..Why the play? But I'm making this call. Akio's not actually end of the world?
Saionji: YOU SURE YOU WANNA BE LIKE HIM?
But for real dudes, why you strippin.
...Oh is chuchu a familiar? Or some part of anthy?
Anthy is not having it. AND SH what the fuck WHAT THE FUCK WE JUST GONNA IGNORE HER SPURTING INTO SWORDS?
Honestly, all of this is half making me wonder about the black rose arc cause it feels...mad out of place? It got excised from canon but...hm.
Episode 36
This yinyang shit is increasingly worrisome.
Elevator again? Also, how long has it been since we've seen the rest of the student council. And why does Touga think he needs to beat her to save her?
Hm....
Is the coffin (Coffins) Ohotori? Is this some weird purgatory? Would explain shadow seminar guy.
You sound sincere when you say that. IMPLYING HE DOESN”T THE REST OF THE TIME.
DON'T KISS AND LOOK ALL DREAMY FUCK YOU AKIO. FUCK YOU
WHY CANT THESE GUYS CLOSE A SHIRT?
Oh Stuco? Please be the heroes we need.
Juri: SOMETHING IS WRONG
Miki: WELL SHEIS A GIRL BUT...Uh...I mean that's good? Right? Something is off.
Oh Boy. Revolution TIME.
….What...what are they doing. What's with the Bike...? Also, the metaphor shit makes me uh..Hm.
Touga: GETTING SECOND THOUGHTS.
Saionji tries to copy akio, and immediately shot down, shits dumb.
Shirt open utena? Copying princly(???) manners there.
Night Dueling...?
So...what's up Touga?
REAL STARS. SEEING REAL STARS FOR THE FIRST TIME!
And it shows the castle? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Man, touga realizing he fucked up but big.
I'm not sure if he's fucking around or for real right now. This is a cute as hell moment i'll grant, but suspect. Touga's got a history.
So he does care. Oh...So that's why he has to win. To keep her away from Akio? But...what's up with that.
...So is Saionji to Anthy as Touga is to Utena? Huh...?
Shadow Time...? Prince of the Horse and the Prince...uh...Hm.
Apocalypse time Hoo boy.
Huh. The Roses growing in anthy's clothes....I wonder if they're supposed to be sorta like...Swords? Analagous to Swords.
Touga and Saionji...Yeah I think that's a HARD ass confirm there. Wait oh my god really?????
That no budget though.
….Touga said he'd protect her and....EVERYTHING GOT REALLY FUCKING WEIRD. THE CARS. ANTHY
Oh man the cars are getting HOT wrecked.
Yo. YO GUYS THIS IS DOPE.
Are the cars the dudes/princes familiars...?
Is it over for us?
BEWARE THE ROSE BRIDE AND END OF THE WORLD
hoo boy. That's...a long ass pause there. And whispering akios name and YEESH SWORDS
oh god is it happening? Oh god it might be happening.
OH FUCK IT HAPPENED. AND SHE LOOKS BROKEN AS SHIT RIGHT NOW.
Utena is...uh...not here right now.
Nanami was RIGHT THE WHOLE TIME. TRIFLING AS HELL AS SHE WAS SHE WAS RIGHT.
ALSO BLUE HAIR AND JURI MIRROR UTENA AND TOUGA OK GOT IT. Shiori is Anthy then I guess.
Utena don't you know how much i've despised you? HOLY SHIT
Episode 37
Hey, Hey, Utena. SHITS FUCKED. ITS HIS FAULT.
DON'T TAKE THE RING OFF OH FUCK. She remembers. Oh boy. Ohhhhhhhhboy.
Only realizing how many fake ass stars are in the apartment.
Anthy is acting more robotic than usual.
Forgive Me! Chuchu.
Oh, the Rose bundle has the whole set of colors don't it. Yep. Orange, green, blue, yellow, red.
End of the World doesn't want things to change?
You two just gonna...just gonna admit how close you are. Touga. Saionji.
Anthy can hear the car noises. If you can still hear it.
GOD I HATE THIS MAN SO MUCH.
Anthy on her mind.
No star mention huh. Stars don't interest him....Hm.
Only place you can see stars are in Anthy and Utena's room.
Is this the first time we've seen utena in red?
….I JUST realized how immensely creepy this picture taking thing is from Akio. Somehow.
Anthy: My brother loves you as well miss utena.
Oh she's fucking up the ball game.
I love this life, I hope our feelings stay the same between the three of us.
Well fucking up the ballgame is off. But falling out the pattern. Never a good sign.
Juri and Miki to the rescue?
Utena is chosen to bring the world revolution. And she doesn't...want it. Been playing prince..So you could make yourself a prince.
Juri: What're you gonna do about anthy. You love her right. You...You know that right?
Nanami to the rescue. YOU KNOW YOU'RE BEING TRICKED YOU MORONS. STAY AWAY FROM AKIO AND ANTHY.
Nanami is a good girl, if a bit of a bitch..
Kozue watching like a hawk.
Miki: Hey I'm a bit in love with you.
Juri: COINCIDENCE?
Duel for her huh. HUH?
Shadow Girls...Why aliens crashing into the tower?
Utena's the Actress here. Shadow Girls OTP. Only one girl can be chosen at the audition.
So, a taste of the princess life?
Hoo boy...Why does he look so fucking angry. Also Anthy with the uh...weirdly sexual pains there.
What do you wanna do in the future Anthy?
Cantarella. A Deadly Poison. Why...are you just bringing that up. Poisoned Tea and cookies...huh?
What's with the record skip.
BOTH OF US TOGETHER 10 YEARS FROM NOW. Yes it would be nice. Just...Just ask her out utena. Please.
...Why are you on the ledge Anthy. uh...Is this a suicide HO SHIT.
I just can't go on. Anthy just...legit tried to kill herself? She just tried to kill herself.
Devoted to true friendship? A gullible fool?
Anthy. You can still turn back huh. Ring On. Prince Mode Engaged. Let's just fucking go.
Episode 38
APOCALYPSE AT THE START? UH. UH PATTERN BREAK? Uh...Shit.
Last two eps, now is the time I guess.
Hold Hands in the face of the End of the World. Let's goooooo
So...That's Dios. And Akio in front. So they're not the same person. For sure.
The Castle where a prince and princess will live together happily
WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED TO ANTHY JESSU CHRIST THAT WAS SCARY.
Rose Bride Utena.Make her into a rose bride. Hit him utena.
Yes, what does happen to Anthy. Rose Bride forever. Swords for ever.
Oh are they building on the suicide thing? Please and thanks.
Oh anthy REALLY wants to die. Like she is not even trying to stay alive.
The Rose Bride, a doll with no heart, to be abused and used huh.
Anthy and Utena finally having a heart to heart.
...Kinda feel like they're talking past each other though?
TAKE BACK THE SWORD.
Dios on her side.
The Prince and Castle are illusions. So that include the school...?
Uh...Uh...the star gazing room? Planeterium, that's the word.
Akio's room is the tip top. Casts Illusions.
Is it so wrong? YES FUCKER JESUS.
YOU ARE AN ADULT YOU FUCK. ITS NOT POSSIBLE TO BE FAIR.
You never tried to understand anthy. Huh...
They are throwing so much here. Like god damn.
Akio claims
HELLAVATOR?
He's trying so hard to get that sword from Utena.
He's...crying?
JUST A WITCH.
OH GOD THE SHELL. ITS BEEN SO LONG!
Nanami too!?
Smash the Worlds shell....oh the end of the world.
The Revolution Duel Has Begun huh.
Akio with his off brand Utena Outfit.
Real Combat huh?
Akio is REFUSING to explain himself. Which is markedly different since he's the only adult here.
I'm Gonna be a Prince...Oh shit is this the duel opening shot. Illusory construct. Oh boy. Oh boy that shit was literal wasn't it.
Anthy...? She looks uh...Not Ok.
Akio isn't though. He's looking uh...Bad too.
ANTHY? ANTHY?! WHAT TU FUCK? THATS HOW YOU END THE EPISODE?!
HOW YOU GONNA STAB UTENA LIKE THAT?
EPISODE 39
uh...pattern breaking again. Where's the opening. Last time to break a pattern I guess. Chance to.
FUCKING STABBED HER! WHY.
You remind me of Dios. But you can never be my prince cause you're a girl.
uh.
Uhhhhhhh.
The Duel Named Revolution. Utena is...Her Their Representative.? She's their Rep.
A boy saved juri's sister, and died. They can't recall his name. Uh...hm.
Y'all just gonna have corn cookin though.
Anthy....?
Do you hate what i've become? Why is he crying?
Y'all just gonna leave Utena dying.
His knowledge is absolute. He chose this path. Claims to love her. FUCK HIM UP.
He couldn't win with his sword, so he stole utenas.
UTENA HANGIN ON.
Stubborn and reckless hero. A taste of true friendship.
OH FUCK THATS A LOT OF SWORDS
Shine with with human hatred. Summoned and deflected by Utena's sword?
HEY HEY WAIT A SECOND. THE FIRST SWORD THAT STRUCK HER IS DIOS/AKIOS. HEY WAIT A GODDAMN MINUTE.
Takes the sword in place of the prince. Destiny of the Rose bride huh. And he's sitting here saying she chose this? YOU TALKED HER INTO IT ASSHOLE.
AND HE CAN'T EVE DO IT WITH THE SWORD HE WANTED SO BADLY.
So...Dios...Again. Through the door eternity, and the power to change things. Well damn fuck dios too.
It's interesting that Dios is presented as a powerful figure, but is ultimately pretty impotent here. He holds absolute power but cannot act? HUH.
Broke her sword huh.
Akio: I COULDn'T DO IT SO YOU CAN'T EITHER. FUCKING DUMBASS
Utena; FUCKING TRY ME. THIS SHIT IS GOIN DOWN.
Oh, friend pointed it out. Roses are all her color.
No power, you can't do anything. Just be dependent.
Utena: FUCK OFF. FUCK THIS DOOR. ANTHY
HAVENTS SEEN THIS SHIT IN A WHILE!
And the swords stopped.
Just realized how childish the prince is...
Oh hey a coffin. And her hands are bloody.
Oh...I think HES gonna have to deal with these swords now.
It's anthy in the coffin. Of course. Tracks.
Don't be afraid of the world says baby Utena. Word.
AT LAST WE MEET!? Yeah that tracks. That. Yeah. She's not being the rose bride. She's being Anthy.
TAKE HER HAND ANTHY GODDAMNIT
While i'm thinking, the whole edifice of end of the worlds power broke down.
Someday together. Uh. Uhhhhhh. Hey. Hey wait a minute.
HEY NO THATS NOT COOL. In the end I couldn't be a prince. Forgive me.
The Swords are...Uh...Utena. UTENA! oh..oh shit.
Wakaba. Hero.
Shadow Girls gonna be an actress. 10 year reunion.
Who was Utena again...? uh.. Utena Hopitalized? Uh...Hey wait a second.
Everyone seems to be..going on.
They're all forgetting she ever existed.
He really doesn't realize what happened.
She vanished from your world. Huh.
Oh hey she's in utena's colors. Well maybe her colors.
I SWEAR I'LL FIND YOU. HEY WAIT.
Hey Final frame Utena and Anthy. ALRIGHT.
MAY THIS ROSE REACH YOU.
NOW THE MOVIE
Revolutionary Girl Utena The Adolescence of Utena
Ok, so this isn't the movie proper, just the dvd thing, but Man Anthy looks super. She looks actually kinda confident and active and alive I guess?
Anyway, I'm going into this assuming it's some kind of sequel. I'm looking for that anyway. Whether it's true uh..We'll see.
HERE WE GO
Anthy and Akio on the tower? And now Just Anthy. At the toppest point where things were controlled right?
….what the fuck is this geometry.
Music still slaps.
I'm sure those pictures were supposed to mean something but fuck if I know what.
...What the hell.
Utena!? SHORT HAIR SHARP DRESSED!
Wakaba! Utena being the charmingest though.
On Air? Shadow Girl Radio! Listen Carefully!
This academy is castelvania.
Shadow girls: Dumped again? Rain on her parade? Huh.
Utena's Pavlor Instincts: PRINCE?! PRINCE WHERE!?
Budget yo. Miki and Juri though man. Juri's not a bad choice for prince.
Juri has like 8 times as much hair. Like Damn. Your Rival
Hey it's Touga! Utena is SHOOK
...The Rose Thing is BUSTED. Just straight wrecked. The Garden. That's the word.
Hey touga what's with the spooky ghost bullshit.
HOW MANY YEARS HAS IT BEEN SINCE WE LAST MET.
I didn't come here looking for you. Surprised you're here.
I'll live with high goals.
More of a pink rose really. Unfurls to reveal...the ring? Huh. Rose Rain now.
Oh...That's DEFFINITELY the highest place in the academy. Structurally uh...uh.......
The Rose Gate looks fucked up. Oh that's a lot of roses. Didn't anthy say something about tending roses...?
Are you not afraid? Anthy looks...really happy. Her hair is down.
I'm the only one captive to the roses. Why'd you come here?
Why'd you come to this academy? And Anthy stopped when she saw the ring. And kinda freaked out.
How do you know about that. Heyyyyyyyyyyy. Saionji.
Rose brides symbol. She's holding that pink/white flower pretty tight though.
Anthy just...kinda went back into robo mode there. And she's not...precisely feeling the ring thing.
Meanwhile, that gate effect.
Do you have a sword? (you know nothing. Last chance to take it off please.)
Utena. A broom ain't a sword, but yeah fuck him up. Ain't worse than what you.
Anthy slap count. But she's active here. She's being a person here unlike before which is.
Anthy is covering her ears.
You're the one who doesn't understand. Is there any girl who's happy to be treated like a possession.
I NEVER SAID THAT I WAS A BOY. FUCK OFF.
Anthy looking hopeful there. DIVE. YOU're NOT ALLOWED TO DUEL WITHOUT A SWORD.
And...Is this song from the original but better but....
Anthy and utena got back into the swing asap. Long Hair Utena returns. Prince Utena rather I guess.
GG Saionji.
PINK MOSTLY! ITS PINK MOSTLY! NOT RED. A LITTLE RED! OH MY GOD THIS MIGHT BE A LEGIT SEQUEL!? Kinda sorta. I'll have to explain myself later.
Touga and Utena are cute as kids. Look at em.
Anthy just...asserted herself.
I don't usually invite people to my room. And then you pull her onto your bed.
Mark of the rose, you know it don't you?
Uh...uh damn Anthy. She's just....straight up feeling up Utena. Looked shocked then certain.
Dreaming of the castle with the prince.
Kozue what are ...what's up with this room. Her prince drowned huh?
Probably the closest we'll get to duelist wakaba here.
Also trying to win her. Well I guess you could say he's here for the dueling.
Hey, Touga don't kiss and tell.
These two are...oddly friendly.
Touga, don't talk to Akio. It's never good.
Calling her a witch.
Prince was a lord of the flies. The witch turned them into a prince.
Wait, not Kozue, that was shiori.
KOZUE, just put a knife to her brothers throat. OK.
Uh...Sold to your father...? Where's nanami though. Calling him a customer makes this uh...infinitely skeeziesr.
Wow Shiori seems a bit uh...
Oh yeah, that's no good. Goddamn poor touga.
Touga: I will win. But I can't be cruel to Juri. High goals man.
This darkness leads to the end of the world....And Dios being a goddamn Cryptid.
The Revolution will begin soon.
Miki: My wish is to obtain more power.
Juri: I want power to be free. To be unconstrained.
Touchy Juri is cool. Big Big Sister Energy there.
Shiori being MAD damicky right now. Trifling. Just absorb Nanami or something?
Miki: Free from Constraints. I get it. Yeeeeeee.
Anthy Please step away from the edge. And you just flash stepped to the center. ok.
Utena is WAY more expressive here too.
“There is no prince” That's...pretty chilling coming from utena actually. And Anthy is so damn touchy feely.
Uh. Uhhhhhhh. ok. Axe antics.
But not in utena which is a step up.
Ooh the ground is mad pretty.
And the starrrs. YoooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Anthy! Looking mad gentle and sweet here. Duelist Utena! And Rose Bride Anthy!
Oh shit. This dance scene is...And it's their reflections .
NO MATTER HOW MUCH TIME PASSES DON'T FORGET THTA PROMISE. IVE COME ALL THIS WAY AT LAST!
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE LIGHT IS ALWAYS SHINING!
THEIR EXPRESSIOSN AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
Oh it's the oninon boy.
Draw Each Other huh! eyebrow waggle
Anthy where the hell are you going.What the. And it's the tower huh.
It's just an obvservation room now though huh. Or in this version.
Anthy, smiles when she takes off the ring. SEQUEL VIBE INCREASES.
Anthy, is unquestionably the one in charge this movie. Compared to before. She's way more impish.
Like...How the hell did you talk her into posing nude exactly?
Utena. Utena are you asking her to strip- ANTHY!
Uh what's that sound. WHAT ARE THESE PICTURES? Uh...Uh...wait what's up with the anthy here.
Ok, so Akio/dios being a weirdo again....and there is a fucking hole in her chest. A big honking hole.
SHADOW TIMES:...
Is...Is that nanmi. There's Chuchu and nanami yep, ok. OK. Oh it's the three dudes too.
You had limitless budget and you put this shit in.
...What the fuck was that though. Crocodile kun.
Hey Akio looking...Cool as usual. But is he still awful?
Record skips. Great.
Did he roofie his sister.
Hey fuck that noise WE DUEL NOW
VS JURI
...People can SEE them dueling?
What's with Shiori though.
Juri once again, being a boss. Also, I just noticed that all of their outfits have gotten an upgrade.
...Miki what do you mean who is Touga.
Juri is...WAY madder about her pretending to princedom than before.
Dios Overlay. And Anthy seemed shocked.
…....A Dead Akio. And he was buried under the ground. And Anthy looked...kinda...pissed.
Anthy killed Akio. And Shiori? Out here pulling shit?
...Oh Akio thought she was asleep when he pulled his shit. Hoooooboy.
Oh the interview room. Shadow room?
Akio freaking the fuck out and he killed her.
And he's dead. Pretty pathetically actually.
Deffo the shadow seminar. Hellavator!
...Touga?
So castle showed up when she killed her brother.
Is...Touga dead.
They keep going back to this drowning kid.
Hero Touga. The Touga we deserve.
Well he died in water and not fire, so...Go him. Seemed pretty chill about it.
I finally found you utena. Power of miracles as long as you stay here.
Pull the sword out and just put that shit back in.
Let's get the fuck out of here-CARRED
TO THE OUTSIDE WORLD
Best version of the Apocalypse song, but why a fucking carwwash. Who thought this made sense. It's DOPE to look at but like damn man.
Utena makes a DOPE car though. Like that shit looks awesome. SHES RUSTING ANTHY. PUT THE KEY IN HER.
Shadow Radio! Hot Damn, Kage OS looks DOPE.
They're all pink haired shadow gals. Which is neat.
Wacky Races Yo.
BIG MISTAKE THINKING YOURE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN TURN INTO A CAR.
Only one who escapes this world. The only one who deserves it is beautiful me. Well...Rip Shiori.
OH ITS THE SWORDS. THEY'RE THE SWORDS.
Ok, this makes CONSIDERABLY more sense if you think of it as a sequel I think.
Needs help? Stuco Squad is there for youuuuuuuuu.
Or at least those who remain.
….WAKABA IS THE JEEP!?
Saionji: I have your back. And when we get to the outside world, I will be there to seduce. The fucking dork.
Oh hey it's the castle making what I must assume is it's last appearance....Oh that's ominous. Das big.
THAT OPENING THEME YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Still freaking weird, but Shadow Girls got your back..
HYE THATS CHEATING!
Oh hey, it's everyone's favorite dickhead.
Where you can be a living corpse.
You can only be a prince in that world.
Goodbye brother, you are no longer my prince.
Hey Akio, how is it you're still the worst.
The balancing act there is crazy like damn you two.
Shadow Girls no more! But we'll miss you.
Anthy Himemiya and Utena Tenjou as the Shadow Girls huh.
Man, the real world looks like shit. (?real World?)
The logistics of it aside, that's a hell of a cool shot.
Return to the outside world we're from. Explore and make the world bigger. Ok. Ok. I get you.
Also. That made LESS sense with context.
#revolutionary girl utena#adolescence of utena#Liveblogish#Now that I have it I know I can Essay#Spoilers#This was a riiiiide#can't wait to do it again#and the rewatch somewhere down the line is gonna make a really interesting revisit to analysis. Better note taking and the like and all that
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Gimme Shelter livewatch under the cut.... I was on my phone when I wrote it so apologies for the typos
“Patchwork Community Center: Care Given to All” with a huge, lurid heart. Hmmm.... patchwork having two meanings here.....
Pastor (?) has 2 Timothy 2:22 tattooed on his arm! “Flee the evil desires of youth and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart.” (NIV) Are we looking at growth and found family in this episode?!?
Oh that’s the alleyway!
Hitting mythology themes— Connor is an Anglicized version of an Irish name— Conchobar mac Nessa is maybe the most famous bearer of the name, from Irish mythology— he’s the king who lusted after Deirdre and had her locked up until she came of age, which is probably neither here nor there as far as this poor Connor is concerned...
That thing has a big lurid heart on his overalls better run lol— Oh shit it’s an evil Teddy Ruxpin!!!! Thanks Davy Perez!!!!
That’s the thing animal control uses to manage aggressive animals??? Is this saying something about the Patchwork people?
And that’s it for the cold open.
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The uh, the mcfuckin what, the Camelot Palace Casino? Is this a tour of the legends of Ireland and Britain all of a sudden? What’s with hitting this theme so hard so fast?
Uh-oh the whole Highway to Heaven reference has me side-eyeing Dean’s suggestion for Cas snd Jack to leave the bunker... Dabb even “spoiled” that line in a tweet lol... in that show the cop and the angel got their (vague) assignments from the big guy.......
Oh SHIT “we’re standing in what I call ‘the trap zone’” Perez is coming for my whole life with this episode!!!! And they’re doing highkey “season one totally-normal Winchester investigation questions script” I love it!!!!
“Slasher flick” Oh we’re revisiting Mint Condition. This is fine.
AND TOMBSTONE THIS IS NOT FINE DAVY! We’re running the good times backwards what did I say about this being the flipside of Last Holiday!
H2H again but this time it’s sus... plus I’m with Zack, I totally want the cozy murder spinoff I imagined Adam and Michael doing plz
Oh the Cas and Jack dynamic here is so sweet.
Pastor just leaving his door open like there’s no such thing as a thief bless his heart. They must be torn up about Connor but Pastor was the last one to talk to him so he’s sus I don’t make the rules.
Oh no Red’s a THIEF!!! Who ever would have guessed. Okay I did NOT expect that jumpscare because of the way Connor’s murder primed me, that was masterfully done.
That’s vaguely an Ohio Star quilt square on the sign behind her except um I forget what that tilted square in the center turns it into? It’s chiming with something... I’ll have to look that up later.
“Divide and conquer” no never split up in a slasher movie that’s how you get murders use the buddy system!
Gonna stop a sec because I just realized that Zack is two-faced. The British dandy was an act. The killer is wearing a Cinderella mask. Ok I’m gonna make a prediction that Zack is actually the killer, a la the demon in Repo Man...
Okay there was definitely a beat after Dean said “Glad soneone’s taking charge” [ofHell] and the focus shifted to Sam. Hm.
“We’ve got to set her up for her own death” so meta, these writers are gonna shred us.
I love being shown how much Castiel has changed throughe Jack not understanding the Kool-Aid reference. And the cats line lol. That’s both amazing and poignant.
That’s a log cabin pattern in the cafeteria. Home. Makes me think back on other quilts we’ve seen this season and if “weaving” is the right metaphor for writing lol. I mean, the action of “patching” is synonymous with “mending” or even healing, but patchwork is also a craft with a long, long history in America (idk if quiltmaking is called patchwork everywhere) of taking a few often mismatched fabrics and cutting and sewing into something beautiful. There are generally two kinds of quilt tops— patterns, like we’ve seen so far in this season, which are carefully planned and involve precise measurements, and “crazy quilts” which also require skill but are often more freeform and piecemeal. But both aspire to be beautiful. That’s an interesting way to conceptualize a serial text... as both creating and mending....
That prayer was sweet and not at all what I was expecting.
I get the finger-cutting for Valerie (stealing=sticky fingers) but not for Connor? Tenuous connection still betw lying and writing? It’s evocative of Se7en but the killer seems to have the same MO for all the killings (I attended CSI for a while.)
Snow White is making me uneasy. Oh she’s the preacher’s daughter... we’ve seen that in early days, too.... oh.... oh....
It’s not the AV guy despite having seen all the AV equipment around Valerie. That’s too easy.
“A saint is a sinner who keeps trying-“ no scroll back, the important part was “we all have to take care of each other.” That’s a theme in the series.
She’s all in pink....
dean and amara on the same wavelength about food lol
Ha ha inversion of “oh you’re a fan of religion? name all seven gods then.”
Castiel’s testimony just wrecked me.
“Members serve the gift of food” hmmm the signs in this episode are tip-top
Gonna just watch for a while.
Oh crap “each is a finger” oh it’s about the sins of the father— No Cas no, you’ve fallen for the misdirection!
Oh okay good, Chuck’s not done snuffing worlds. That had me REALLY WORKED UP ha ha because Amara has no reason to lie right?
That was a really good conversation.... and implying that Former Death bent the truth...
Oh fuck I’m gonna cry “I wanted younto see that your mother was just a person” YES! DISMANTLE THIS MYTHOLOGY AMARA!!! Name it!
THE MYTH THAT YOU’D HELD ON TO FOR SO LONG did they just— THEY DID
rigging the game— ftfoh with the casino metaphors already we know the house always wins except when it doesn’t
Lying, lying, lying,
Do we even know Snow White’s name yet? And why was Connor a liar? Because I think we can make a guess at this point.... ah ha ha her name is sylvia— “forest spirit” she’s Mrs Butters— and she’s after hypocrites— but the killing isn’t supernatural, just churchy?
Oh shit SHE IS A DEAN MIRROR IF SHE STABS JACK I’LL FLIP A DAMN TABLE
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Okay so “Dad” steps in and stops Sylvia’s attack on Jack...
Why is that Zack? What????
“I’ve been lying to you” oh here we go
Oh it would be death #3, remember what Dabb said about threes a long time ago, two attempts that are unsuccessful and one that satisfies the parameters— but no he’s a jack :((((
I have to stop watching for a while.
Okay I finished it. Holy cats do I have some Thoughts about this episode.
What I loved: Revisiting Dean’s anger, BUT the parental mirror here (in retrospect, at least for me) was a John mirror-- all the mothers (exc for Rowena) in this episode are dead. And Pastor Joe didn’t apparently embrace his wife’s faith until she had died, and then his vision was radically different than his wife’s was-- much like John’s reasons for becoming a hunter were vastly different from Mary’s... but much like “patching” this subtext was possibly even more “healing” than having John back in the 300th ep... This was... looking at a child’s anger when they’re in the middle of their own family mythology. Am I implying that Dean’s anger is immaturity? Eh, it’s... unripeness. I have an old meta in my drafts about the heroine’s journey and why Mary’s story conformed to it while feeling totally unfulfilling in her actual character arc and I’m so glad I sat down and examined that rather than finish it. I have a lot I want to say about Cas’ testimony too, but that has to sit a while. ALSO also, Cas has already thrown away his shot by making the Empty deal, right?....
LANGUAGE! Cas saying “I found myself lost” is a bonkers sentence, right? It’s like when people say someone “turned up missing”-- AND it does not have the same meaning as “I realized I was lost”-- you get a double whammy of the connotation “to search for.” I loved loved loved how language was such a big deal in Last Holiday and then again here, I need to rewatch while paying closer attention to Sylvia and things she says... but these two were sister episodes in so many ways, that when I said there was a “lack of narrative mirrors” in Last Holiday, that’s only because the lens for that kind of reading is Gimme Shelter. That is not the first time spn has played with a “coin” or paired structure-- I think the first time I noticed it was Fan Fiction/Ask Jeeves but I was a transfer student from another fandom at the time lol. But of course, we get a huge truth bomb at the end of the episode, and again that splashy cymbal all over lying...
What I got wrong-- Zack wasn’t the killer but he’s fishy as hell-- he stole Sylvia! Is this part of Rowena’s “people generally end up where they deserve to be” except she’s built in an express lane? “Do you need a driver” is that his actual job now? Taking unripe souls to Hell Orientation? What’s up with him being there... the other shoe did not drop. So there is a third episode out there somewhere where this might get wrapped up? The conversation between Dean and Cas can easily be something that happens offscreen, and I don’t think that it would be the first time we miss an “important” conversation, especially since we know roughly what will be said and how it will wrap up-- it’s an “open text” of a sort. Maybe a fanfiction gap lol, I can’t wait for the codas.
Also, the fingers thing being Sylvia’s father’s favorite analogy is where she got her MO, something that I definitely didn’t see, although it fits right in with her father’s slightly pithy character. I think it’s interesting again how we’re playing with threes and fours. Three fingers got cut off but it was apparent that Valerie (valorious one) wouldn’t die until finger #4.... Jack really seems to be our last hope.
#the folklore of supernatural#the mythology of supernatural#mary winchester#davy perez#the second timothy of supernatural#gimme shelter#season 15#my mom gave me the family baby name book when i was about eleven and so i had an obsession with names#all of my characters in all of my stories had Important Symbolic Names LOL#it amused my father who told me I needed to read herman melville#and there's a little bit of my own family mythos.#now i harangue my own kid to write and stuff ha ha ha except instead of a baby name book i gave him watership down#same effect#more rabbit fighting
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Welcome to Seinfeld: The PTBN Series Rewatch! On a regular basis, JT Rozzero, Aaron George, Andrew Flanagan and Jordan Duncan will watch an episode of TV’s greatest sitcom and provide notes and grades across a number of categories. The goal is to rewatch the entire series chronologically to see what truly worked, what still holds up today, what feels just a bit dated and yada, yada, yada it will be a great time. So settle into your couch with the cushions flipped over, grab a Snapple and enjoy the ride!
Best Character
JT: I thought everyone was really locked in during this episode, but Kramer was really on fire all throughout this one. His quick hit lines, physical comedy and overall presence was just next level. The stock room stuff gets me every time and that was just the tip of the iceberg. He was a true force of nature the whole way through, right down to telling Jerry that he underlined the best parts of the medical book.
Aaron: Kramer in a landslide. His physical stuff was on point and we got the long overdue return of Doctor Victor Van Nostrand. His flippant “The cat died” was wonderful as was his apprehension before electrocuting himself.
Andrew: I’ll go with Kramer, who still gets more laughs out of mannerisms and line readings than anyone. Seeing him abruptly paw through Jerry’s sandwich was the biggest laugh of the episode for me. He’s pretty delightful throughout the rest of the episode, as well, from throwing himself completely into being a butcher-coat-wearing meat slicer operator, to the quick pivot into a lab coat wearing doctor.
Jordan: I thought George was pretty good here, and I am always up for a George scheme and George laziness. HOWEVER – anytime Dr. Van Nostrand appears, I will give it to Kramer. Wanting to slice off Kruger’s mole with his meat slicer and giving Jerry hives all in the last five minutes was like a breakaway dunk to seal a win in the last minute of a game.
Best Storyline
JT: All of it? I mean, it was all so beautifully intertwined, I don’t know how to separate it. I am cheating this time around and I don’t care. All of it.
Aaron: Kramer and Elaine dealing with the absentee neighbor. They blow a circuit, they feed a cat prime cut from a slicer, they break no less than two doors; they really do a tremendous job of mucking up the whole apartment complex.
Andrew: I went back and forth, but I think George’s photo saga was the best storyline. Scheming George is always the best George, and the beach story is a winner, especially once we get Mr. Kruger’s version. And the photo shop clerk’s confidence and pride in his entirely unhelpful work cracks me up.
Jordan: My instinct says to go with the slicer because I liked Kramer so much, but I’ll side with George desperately trying to have the picture photoshopped. The reveal at the end that Kruger and his kids THREW George’s stuff into the ocean was great. What a pear shaped loser!
Ethical Dilemma of the Week
JT: I can’t decide if Jerry is right or wrong about the dermatologist stuff. So I feel the ethical pain here. But, Jerry is a dick so he is probably wrong. Sigh.
Aaron: Does Kruger deserve to die of skin cancer for throwing a man’s towel and clothing in the ocean a decade before? Probably. The sheer pride he felt despite the passage of time painted a picture of a remorseless man on the steady path to doing it again.
Andrew: I don’t know that it’s a dilemma, but I applaud George’s honesty in including the Play Now debacle on his resume. Better to get the bad news out of the way quickly, I think.
Jordan: Is it on Elaine to feed the cat? I mean, yes, she shorted the circuit to turn off the alarm, and apparently the cat feeder, but also, maybe don’t leave the country and rely on a machine to feed your pet. If we are out of town for even 24 hours, we make sure someone comes to check on our dog. I don’t think Elaine had to go to the lengths she did here. Also, cats suck and I wish it had died.
Relationship Scale (Scale 1-10)
JT: Dr. Siterides needs to simmer the fuck down. Good on Jerry for trying to take her down a peg. She can save lives and not be a dick at the same time. Relationship Grade: Pimple Popper/M.D.
Aaron: Jerry was right to break up with that braggart of a Doctor. The second she said “Of course you wouldn’t know what it feels like to hold a life in her hands,” she earned herself a piledriver. Sometimes love feels like a fight. Relationship Grade: CAW CAW CAW!
Andrew: I can’t imagine dating someone who spends as much time praising herself as much as Sara clearly does. The self-involvement and lack of regard for her partner’s interest level is astonishing. Plus, when would we have time to talk about how much I’m enjoying rewatching The Mighty Boosh? Relationship Grade: Looks like hives/10
Jordan: Not much here outside of Dr. Pimple Popper, and I thought that was kind of a weak part of the episode. I do wonder though – is this where Dr. Pimple Popper on Youtube got her name? Am I the only one in this group who watches those videos? What is it about pimple popping and the likes that is so entrancing for me? Also, chiropractic videos. I’m a huge fan of hearing the crunch. But there is this one dude who gives adjustments seemingly only to hot women and they are always in revealing clothing. I know that sex sells, but we just need you to handle the subluxation of the C4 vertebrae pal, we can find boobies somewhere else. Relationship Grade: KEEP IT PG/10
What Worked:
JT: The cold open was cool, well done and felt like something they had to do at some point; Kruger!; The way George gets hired is pretty funny; Kramer destroying Jerry’s sandwich to prove his point always makes me laugh, as does him saying “our meat problems are solved”; I love Kramer’s blank stare when Jerry mentions the stock room; Kramer actually has some good ideas in this episode; “But, where does the meat go” breaks me each and every time; The photo store guy drawing “Peanuts” Kruger back in was a good chuckle; I love the callback of Jerry and George discussing career options, really well done; Elaine taunting Kramer with the thought of clowns was deliciously dirty pool; Kramer asking Jerry if he wore a fake beard stacked with him commenting he couldn’t find the stock room is an amazing 1-2 punch; Elaine dancing was a nice touch; Kramer examining Kruger was tremendous; Kramer not piecing together that he gave Jerry the rash was classic
Aaron: As much as almost everything Kramer did warrants mention here so does the entire George/Kruger fiasco. Daniel von Bargen KILLS it as the hapless boss. “Man we took it on the chin last year, ” was said with a perfect lack of shame, that only the worst company on Earth could exhibit. George scheming to replace the photo is perfect Costanza fodder, which tiptoed the believability line in a near flawless way. The pride the photo guy took in his drawing of Kruger was wonderful as was George’s tolerance of people digging on his hair loss. By the time Their story climaxes with Kramer being mistaken as a Doctor I felt for the first time in a while we were watching the tight Seinfeld scripts of old. I’ll always laugh when Kramer trumpets the fact that he air brushed Gerald Ford out of a photo.
Andrew: The recurring gag of George throwing out potential careers for Jerry to comment on gets a revisit here, and I have to say I don’t think I’ve appreciated “land guy” in the Coast Guard enough over the years. I’ve always enjoyed Mr. Kruger’s apathetic approach to business, and he gets off to a good start in this one. Elaine and Kramer debating the existence of a slice so thin it cannot be seen is a good bit.
Jordan: Big fan of Kruger. George correcting his resume to say 14 days instead of 4 days at Playtime. Kramer buying his own meat slicer and slicing it so thin he couldn’t even see it was wonderful, as was his feeding Elaine slices at the end of the episode. I didn’t care for Jerry and the dermatologist, but her role worked within the story which is something Seinfeld does so well. Of COURSE Jerry is seeing a skin doctor just at the time when George needs to get his bosses shirt off! The airbrushed photo of Kruger was absurd, and the artist was SO PROUD of his work. Jerry mentioning that he wore a beard of bees is an iconic moment in our household. Beards of bees were a long standing gag with my dad and I. Also liked Kramer quizzing Elaine on how the slicer works, “But where does the meat go?”
What Didn’t Work
JT: I hate Dr. Siterides; How does Jerry identify his rash in the book so quickly?; Who likes olive loaf?
Aaron: HATED the cold open with Elaine in bed with all the guys. Dream or not it adds tremendously to the “Elaine is now a whore” narrative that has permeated season nine. Jerry’s storyline was weak in relation to the excellence around him.
Andrew: Where is Elaine’s landlord in all this? It’s frustrating when a whole storyline could be avoided by one phone call, and there’s at least three instances in hers where the maintenance staff should have been the first stop. I’m also not sure I enjoyed the cold open dream sequence. The idea of Elaine growing tired of these three ruining her life is a good one, but it needs more time than one unconnected gag to be worthwhile.
Jordan: I thought the end with Elaine sipping a Pepsi through the keyhole was stupid. Why not call the landlord?
Key Character Debuts
– Mr. Kruger
Iconic Moments, Running Themes & Memorable Quotes
– “It says here that you worked at Play Now for four days?” – Krueger “That should be 14, let me just…” – George
– “It is a horrible company. There’s no management what so ever. I could go hog wild in there.” – George
– “Yeah well, that’s easy. Just let me finish this mile high and I’ll be right with you. Oh, and Jerry, we are gonna need a case of Kaiser rolls.” – Kramer “I think we might have one left in the stock room.” – Jerry
– “Where did you get that butcher’s coat?” – Jerry “You buy enough meat, they’ll give you anything.” – Kramer
– “Revenge date? That sound like you more than me.” – Jerry “This good be so sweet, Jerry. Saving lives? She’s one step away working at the clinique counter!” – George
– “Oh, I’ve cut slices so thin, I couldn’t even see them.” – Kramer “How did you know you cut it?” – Elaine “Well, I guess I just assumed.” – Kramer
– “What about your sea sickness?” – Jerry “Maybe I could be a land guy.” – George “I don’t know if they have land guys.” – Jerry “Someone’s have to unhook the boat before it leaves… the place!” – Jerry
– “Boy, that looks like an allergic reaction. Have you been wearing a fake beard?” – Kramer
– “Alright, great, because I got to get down there and pick up my blade. Hey, and I couldn’t find that stock room.” – Kramer
– “Moles, yes. Freckle’s ugly cousin.” – Kramer
– “That’s my hand towel! I use that on my face, hands and chest! That’s where the hives are coming from! It’s not from Dr. Sitarides, it’s from Dr. Van Nostrand!” – Jerry
Oddities & Fun Facts
– Actress Marcia Cross played Sara Siterides
Overall Grade (Scale 1-10)
JT: I love this episode. Everything was crisp and on point and it was vintage in its ability to tie together all of the stories into one seamless overarching tale. The core four were tightened up here and sharp but Kramer went next level, slaying every scene he was in. There are so many classic quotes from him, I couldn’t even keep up. The delivery and timing sparkled all through this one. I won’t call it an elite pantheon episode, because it is missing that truly iconic scene or moment to push it over the top, but it is right on the borderline and proof that the gang could still deliver when given a cohesive, locked in script to execute. Final Grade: 9/10
Aaron: I laughed quite a bit during this one. We had three strong stories and the weak barely took away. I now want Kruger in every episode as his ineptitude rarely lets down. It’s fucking hilarious that Kruger stole George’s stuff. Final Grade: 8/10
Andrew: This feels like a “C” grade episode to me. I laughed quite a bit, spent the rest of the time trying to poke holes in the plotlines, and came away pretty entertained overall. It’s easier to find something to say about the episodes that approach one extreme or the other, and I’m surprised to find myself on the lower end of the grading here, but this one felt average to me. Final Grade: 7/10
Jordan: This episode was… PERFECTLY SLICED. See what I did there? I made a reference to the meat slicer. Kramer really was great here, but so was George. I love Kruger a lot and it’s a shame he came along in the last season, I would like to see more of him. Just an excellent episode, and hey, we had that weird Elaine dream where she was in bed with all the guys! Final Grade: 8/10
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