#and the blade of frontiers being such a kind and heroic figure who would stay with you through thick and thin
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mokeonn · 10 months ago
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It's a really dumb way to kill him but he uses up all his spell slots using cloud kill on the dark justiciars so you he's way easier after that
Astarion. My first solo game I did it because I think vampires are cool and he was one of the only characters that allows being poly. I currently have my main game as the vampire-murderer-bear polycule, which fits really well because she's a durge ranger, so she's got a guy that appeals to her murder side and a guy for her nature side. I was originally going to assend Astarion because I thought it's what he wanted and it would be fun to be a vampire-vampire-bear polycule, but when I was looking up information on how to do it, I found out it was his bad ending. Like it just repeats the cycle of abuse and makes him act way ruder and more possessive, so I had to give up the vampire-vampire-bear dreams.
The evil durge drow playthrough however is also romancing him because fuck it I wanna see the cool powers he gets and I want my character to be able to bite people without having to wild shape into a wolf.
My first ever playthrough was with a friend so I made a drow bard and I was gonna make him also romance Astarion (because that was my first game ever and I didn't make my new one yet) but after revisiting it after romancing him twice, I realized that since my friend made me do an evil playthrough as my first playthrough (he was a durge too so it was just constant "hey watch this!" Before showing me that he punt kicked a squirrel or something) I could romance Minthara instead since I didn't romance her in my other evil game. So that one went from "Albino boyz" jokes to "good little drow boy for mommy Minthara" jokes real fast.
The fact that I romanced him twice, one good one evil, means that I never romance him anymore and I just purposefully annoy him now. It's actually REALLY fun. Like yeah we're gonna be good, do nice things, and not use our tadpoles, you pasty fuck.
That was something I really enjoyed about my honor mode game with my bardlock, Poetry, she romanced Wyll and I made her as good as possible, so Astarion was CONSTANTLY complaining about how much of a kill joy she was. Those two were just constant bickering. It's grand. I actually HIGHLY recommend bugging Astarion it's 100% better than romancing him.
I did start another drow playthrough where I was gonna romance Karlach, but in that honor mode playthrough Gale had died. So when I transported him back to camp through Withers, his stupid necrotic aura ended up killing Scratch, so I revived him and then blew him and my character up to end the run.
I also have a half-drow honor mode druid that was gonna romance Halsin but I'm a little bored with that game and also you basically like, don't get the evil drow benefits. The goblins do not let you go where you please but other people are still fantasy racist to you. It's like the worst of both worlds. Which sucks because I think the faces for body type 2 half-elves look WAY better than body type 2 drow faces. So I pretty much never use body type 2 for drow.
I always use pact of the sword with Wyll, but I tend to make him multiclass. I have yet to do a bardlock wyll that is college of swords, which sounds really fun with pact of the sword, actually. I found out that life domain is pretty good, but I tend to forget to change Shadowheart. I might swap her to tempest domain or something to try something new. I know war domain rules, though, as it gives you proficiency in every weapon and armor, and you can second attack early in the game by spending a war domain charge. I'm already doing a war domain cleric in my team honor mode game, though.
Why don't you wanna play your other games cuz you can't turn them honor? What part of honor mode has enchanted you so?
I do enjoy my other games but I am having a TON of fun with honor mode, mainly coming down to the following reasons:
- No reloading.
This has been my blessing and my curse. On the one hand, it makes battles WAY more fun because if they go south, I can't just press the magic undo key. It's changed my battle strategy when I lose from "just reload to before the battle" to "have someone escape and prepare to pickpocket Withers at camp," which is a lot more fun imo. It's also why I had so many problems with the phase spider matriarch and why Poetry is technically continuing with dishonor because I kept running away and leaving camp right back to the fight. (Which was my fault, I forgot you can use waypoints in camp)
It also means I don't have to worry about saving often anymore. No more backtracking more than expected because I forgot to save before or after an event, because I simply can't backtrack!
However this also causes a nightmare, if you fuck up and end up wiping out an entire town or giving a character a bad end on accident, you're stuck with that. I have figured out how to turn the tide in my favor for a lot of events, but for others, I am simply out of luck if I mess it up. Like triggering the Isobel kidnapping scene and not winning the fight, or if something happens to a future companion in a battle where they're an ally. You're just stuck with the consequences, which sucks SO much.
- the difficulty is kinda fun and adds new features to fights that freshens it up
I normally go through the game in balanced mode, because that feels just right for me, but I can't help but admit that the new attacks and enemy features of honor mode freshen up the game a lot more. Take the intellect devourer fight at the very beginning of the game when you pick up Shadowheart, I've done that fight so many times it's more of a chore that gets you to level up than anything else. In tactician mode, it's the same fight, but they hit harder. In honor mode??? Those fuckers got laser beams! That's new! That adds something that freshens up an old experience! I like that a lot!
Many fights are like that where an old fight I've already done at least 5 times feels new. Getting the owlbear fight out of the way? Now there's 2 owlbears, bitch. Does the hag have new attacks? I wouldn't know! I just cheese the fight by arcane locking the stairs to the lair when she first reveals herself.
It really adds a breath of fresh air, and it gets me to think a lot more about equipment, spells, battle strategies, classes, feats, and so on. Rather than simply brute forcing my way through and reloading until I win.
-food system
I understand this is just a general tactician mode change, but instead of 40 camp supplies, you need 80.
I tend to pick up any edible substance I can see anyways, leading to me having over 1,000 camp supplies sometimes. I have to constantly distribute supplies to other party members lest my player character have 70% of their inventory and ability to carry things be taken up by food. I am constantly juggling to make sure I don't become encumbered.
So, having that set to 80 instantly helps me cut down on food and has even caused a little challenge. Due to the difficulty of honor mode, I have to long rest more, which means I now ACTUALLY have to worry about camp supplies. There will be times were the party needs to rest but I don't have enough supplies so I need to either find something, or buy something.
I find the food management aspect really fun actually and it's very interesting to want to long rest only to realize you only have 18 supplies and need to scramble to get 62 more.
-gettin' funky with it
I think the biggest part I like about honor mode as well is that there are areas where you can't simply run away to camp if things go south. So the game constantly requires me to think outside of the box and get funky with it.
Things like using enemies as weapons against other enemies, making a healing circle in combat and throwing a potion down in the middle of it, getting rid of an entire boss fight early by simply getting other enemies to fight them, blocking off doorways with boxes or arcane lock, finding out that darkness is your friend it is SUCH a good spell.
It's REALLY fun to figure out wild solutions to get things done without risking the run ending. A dumb example was in grymforge! I wanted to get all the duegar out of the way before fighting Nere, so I did this by going to the upper platform hanging above the entrance of the main room, and using a berserker Karlach to start throwing things down. Most of the duegar were melee fighters so they would end up dashing around and missing turns, and those that could hit far were taken out first. I had potions lined up the wazoo and made shadowheart throw them on karlach when she got low on health, Astarion was sneak attacking, and Poetry (my durge bardlock) was inspiring Karlach and eldrich blasting.
It got even better because some enemies had javelins they would throw up, which meant that Karlach now had more Javelins to throw down.
It was a dumb battle that ended with a solid 8 turns of everyone wailing on the scrying eye hoping to damage it, because we ran out of thunder spells that could hurt it and most of our damage was negated most turns. It cried for help every time, but no help came.
But I had a ton of fun with it! It was a memorable fight! It wasn't like my first fight in my first playthrough where I had to keep reloading, I just got to win by standing up really high and making Karlach throw every Javelin I had found and gave her throughout the game and then some.
-it justifies my bad habits that make gamers cry
To the joy of all my friends, I have stopped using my inventory system I made up. I used to pick up every backpack and pouch I could find and sort everything into 4 bags in the order of: spell scrolls, drinkables, throwables, and coatables.
This kept everything nice and clean as most things outside of these bags either got a special bag (i.e story items or dye bottles) or just got to be sold. It was a little tedious to grab things during battle, but I used the custom page to make things easier. So it was only really a pain getting things out of someone else's inventory.
I have since found out that an auto sort by type button exists, and I can just use that instead. And that a search bar exists. It took until a friend pointed it out for me to realize this. So I stopped doing the bag system since I could simply throw the story items you can't sell into a backpack and just auto sort everything else.
Plus I used to have a treasure pouch I would sell, which is not necessary! That's what the 'add to wares' button is for! Whoopsie!
So, thankfully, for everyone, I stopped doing the backpack system...
However
I had also developed another habit around the same time I developed the backpack system. I was doing a challenge run where I dared myself to use every object I picked up no matter how useless, and it caused me to develop a habit that makes everyone who plays with me cry:
I press take all no matter what.
That's just how I close containers.
There's nothing that makes a friend playing with you cry more than an inventory full of useless garbage, and you keep picking up more garbage off the ground to mess with them.
In honor mode, the shop prices are HIGH. A 80 gp ring of flinging in balanced mode is over 200gp in honor mode. The gloves of missile snaring that are about 200 gp normally? Over 600gp. If you aren't planning on pickpocketting (which admittedly I am clearly under utilizing and I need to plan on pickpocketting more), you need a LOT of money to buy items you need.
You know what gets you a lot of money? Selling a metric fuckton of armor, weapons, rotten food, bones, and whatever other garbage you pick up!
Hell, if you even give some of these to shop keepers for free, they'll like you more and lower the prices!
So next time your friend yells at you for picking up all of the severed body parts you see in on the risen road, consider that each of those parts net you about 3 gold, and you need that bottle of light blue dye Dammon is selling.
- I want the achievement and the gold dice
I've been getting into achievement hunting and I really like how all of bg3 achievements are achievable through story beats or small fun actions, so I want the achievement. I'm already working on the second hardest one which is busking 100 gold, so I need the hardest one. Boost my ego. Plus I wanna see if it gets the tactician achievement out of the way as well.
Also yeah I want those gold dice lmao
So that's why I have only been playing honor mode lately. I still love those regular balanced games, and I will need to revisit my main game soon since I haven't beaten the game yet and have no idea what act 3 encounters there are, but I am having the time of my life with honor mode. The furthest I have gotten so far is right before the Nightsong and the assault on Moonrise Towers. I would be able to tell you how well that went if I didn't proceed to let my hubris get the better of me and mess up the last light Inn.
Anyways, I highly recommend trying honor mode! It really forces you to get into out of the box thinking and try some spells, classes, and methods you might not have used. Whether that's disguising yourself as a drow to get past the goblin camps conflict free, pickpocketting every shopkeeper you can to save money, or saving every smokepowder barrel you can find; there's a lot of fun to be had in honor mode.
Of course, if you normally do explorer and never balanced or tactician, maybe reconsider idk. Also I am weird and absolutely have been trying new classes I never played before in this mode, I highly recommend playing a class you have played before if you're worried about the difficulty. For me? I got act 1 figured out, so by act 2 I'll be used to the class I picked it's no biggie :)
So far the only honor mode game going REALLY well for me is the one I'm doing with my friend, since he was unsure about honor mode and normally plays explorer. That one he is a druid half-wood elf (which is a fantastic pick as the wild shapes are grand for not dying and half-wood elves get an extra 3 meters to their speed) and I am a war cleric of Selune romancing Lae'zel (war clerics RULE for hitting hard, and I wanted to piss off Shadowheart as much as possible with my build.) So if you have a friend who likes playing tactician or honor mode, you can totally mooch off them. Having another player to control half of the team honestly helps a lot imo.
#long post#really long post#yes im embarrassed to admit I romanced Astarion twice but havent really gotten far enough in any other game to romance anyone else#except wyll of course but I unfortunately messed up that game and now it makes me sad to play#i just think vampires are neat and I wanted to see the ascended version in a less heroic playthrough#it's funny though because I still haven't even tried to romance Gale or Shadowheart in any playthrough#wait shit that's wrong I was doing an Astarion origin and I'm romancing Gale in that one but that doesn't really count#either way Shadowheart is funnily enough the only one I have not romanced#sorry im not that interested in shars most repressed little warrior#like she's a fantastically written character and I probably should romance her#but I feel like she already gets all the spotlight ESPECIALLY in act 2 so it's like nah you're not getting more spotlight when Wyll exists#Wyll and Karlach are just the best tbh I love them#like everyone rules but I do enjoy me a big hunky sweet barbarian with a heart of gold#and the blade of frontiers being such a kind and heroic figure who would stay with you through thick and thin#I just like to appreciate Wyll it feels like he gets ignored a lot by the fandom#that's also why I bully Astarion. he's a fantastic character but like... the fandom gets into him WAY too much and it's like Wyll :)#plus Wyll is funny he has such snarky comebacks#anyways sorry about the long ass post but I like talking about bg3#idk maybe ill actually muster up the energy to draw and make yall look at my dnd or bg3 ocs or something
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