#and thank u for supporting me despite me being extremely into male figures 😭😭 i cant help it they are just so sweet and they play SONGS..

[butchviking]

while I’m gnc woman myself and heavily so…

while this is definitely splitting straws….

I kinda feel it is worth thinking about if it’s hypocritical to be saying we distrust conforming/not gnc women who are gender crit just on the basis of their own look and not how they talk about conforming vs gnc

Unless I guess you would accept women distrusting anyone who also used transition steps to meet an internal body standard as a gender crit … like distrusting in the same way — not hating or alienating but just wary and suspicious of not really getting it or smthn

Not that it’s the same thing but you yourself compared them when thinking about how it adds up to do cosmetic surgery for your body feelings in the same way yeah ok many feminist women are critical of cosmetic surgery, makeup, heels, diet culture/aiming for certain body look, other feminine performance, performance for men… but may or may not be able to get themselves to stop engaging in it depending. Or if so it may be a process over time, with relapses. And may or may not represent how they act about it to other women.

This was that post https://at.tumblr.com/butchviking/what-was-stopping-you-before-you-made-the-decision/roaovu40ag79

Of course nobody can stop themselves how they feel distrust… I definitely distrust a lot more people than I justify rationally distrusting if that makes sense. One of mine is actually instinctive low level distrust of women really into male figures for any reason actually but I still support you……….. lmao

In a lot of ways I guess it is natural, but maybe limiting, that we most gut level trust people who we see as like ourselves.

hey to be clear i did say i DON'T distrust them! we just clearly have a different outlook on the world. there's nothing wrong w that nd we all make certain concessions to the world in our own ways (im very very aware that my desire for surgery comes off as anti-feminist to many... and i can't rly argue w that!) nd some women have just gone the other way with it to me. i'm not like automatically uncomfortable around them or anything, i get along plenty well with plenty of gender-conforming women, but it's true that there's something in my experience of the world that they'll never quite understand. and i'm sure there's plenty in their experience of the world that i'll never understand. that's why it's kind of lame for me 2 feel pushed out from the other community where i think ppl would understand those things.

i think u misunderstood my point wrt the comparison to makeup/heels/femininity in that post tho... i was saying it a bit the other way round and i did worry that it wouldn't come across quite right but what i was saying is that. hmm. those women do those things that make them uncomfortable in order to be attractive to others, right? well i've often decided to ABSTAIN from surgery because i'm worried that if i DID get it i'd be unattractive to other lesbians. so me NOT getting the surgery would be me making myself uncomfortable to appeal to others. so who am i to criticise other women for sacrificing their comfort to be attractive and then do the very same thing in my own way?