#and sometimes that is printing out an entire fanfiction so you can highlight names in different colours and look for Patterns

[summoningspark]

so i may or may not have printed out the entirety of @anonymousalchemist's amazing fic like a bird, like a stone onto three Very Large pieces of paper.

you might be asking, why, fay? why did you print out an entire 53k fic for a video game you've never played? well you see, if you read it, you would understand.

[not-poignant]

1/2 I've had a discussion about commissioned fanart/fanfic with a friend lately, and we disagree. For me, it goes against everything I know ff to stand for to get compensation for it (though freely donated ko-fi by readers, that I can get by). But my friend asked, how ff is different from fanart? "Fanartist strive on ko-fi, patreon, etc, they regularly sell fanmerch... it's a discrimination against ff writers if they are not allowed to get the same support fanartists get". 

And I get where she's coming from... but I still think FF are different, and I can't articulate why. =/ I know you feel similarly, your patreon is always strictly for your original creations. I'm wondering what your thoughts are about this? *Why* is fanart different? *If* it is. (Btw, you don't need to reply, I just figured I ask because you always seem to have such insightful comments and opinions. But anyway, have a great day!!) 

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Hi anon!

I apologise because I doubt I’m going to have a very clear answer to this. So I’m just going to highlight my wishy washy thoughts because that’s all I have.

* Firstly, I think there is a huge double standard for anyone who thinks it’s fine to accept money for fanart but not for fanfiction. Both are transformative works that take a lot of time and effort to make. Period.

There is a reason for the bias that I’ve observed. And that’s because most professional authors, creators, directors and scriptwriters have - for decades - been pro-fanart and anti-fanfiction, and some of that has trickled down into attitudes in fandom. Even today, pro-fic scriptwriters will say ‘oh I love the idea of fanfiction but legally I can’t read any’ while repeatedly reblogging or retweeting or sharing or even reposting fanart with delight. And that’s the ones who are pro-fic.

But over the decades, there have been plenty of famous authors and properties in particular, who were pro-fanart (though not pro ‘profiting off fanart’), but anti-fanfiction. Anne Rice and Robin Hobb come immediately to mind. Some of these people even commissioned fanart themselves, while taking fanfiction authors to court. The double standard there is huge. If you’re posting fanart on your page but hating on fanfiction authors as a professional, you probably need to examine your biases.

* Secondly, personally, I think it’s unethical for me to accept money for my fanfiction OR fanart. I have no double standard, they are both the same to me.

* Fanartists literally making entire livings off their fanart makes me uncomfortable. Particularly when they’re making more money than the original creator or the original property. I have less of an issue when it’s like, Marvel or Disney, but then, those huge organisations can afford lawyers and send C&Ds (Cease & Desists) and are powerful enough to shut down and destroy accounts (and sadly, artists). But in the case of smaller fandoms, unfortunately it means you can end up with scenarios where some fanartists are making much more than the creators who created the property in the first place. Imho, I don’t like that. But that’s a nuanced, complicated issue for which there are no easy rules.

There are definitely increasingly ways people can profit off fanfiction and do. I think it is immensely hypocritical for anyone who financially supports fanartists to then draw a dubious/mythical line in the sand re: saying fanfiction authors making a profit is wrong. I’m sorry anon, but it’s an attitude that’s literally ‘They can do it but you can’t lmao I have no reason sorry but I guess you don’t deserve to pay your bills for your fanworks but these people do because of their fanworks have a nice day.’

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Sometimes I wish I really did feel better about making money off fanfiction. I think I’d be making more money if I did. But I just don’t feel okay about it, personally, in myself. I don’t expect anyone else to hold themselves to the same standard, a person’s gotta eat. I’m just lucky I can eat because of Fae Tales.

Fanfiction authors are definitely finding more and more ways to make money off their fiction, usually via Ko-Fi tips, or even just placing fanfic on Wattpad and getting money via that. Even through Patreon (though if they get reported, their account will be closed down and suspended). But the struggle is real. Meanwhile the big name fanartists get huge booths at all the conventions and are treated like celebrities making profits off of fanart, and are more likely to get professional offers re: jobs, including fanart in their portfolio. Try doing the same thing as a professional author. You’ll be treated as a joke.

Yes, the double standard is fucking annoying, and it’s also just crap. There’s probably a reason most people can’t think of a good reason why one group should get paid but not the other, for both doing literally the exact same thing in different creative forms. And that reason is ‘because there is no good reason.’

If fanartists can make a profit so boldly and wildly off of other creative properties, then fanfiction authors should be able to as well, without fear of criticism that’s directed specifically at them but not fanartists. That’s just...internalising the hate that professional creators put out into the world, and that hate came from a fear of their works being stolen by writers, but not by artists. There might be a secondary fear around it hurting fandom, but that’s something that most people don’t really talk about, and it’s not like anyone brings it up re: fanartists selling prints.

Imho, for me personally it’s complicated. I follow a set of rules for myself that I created over twenty years ago, and I don’t know if I’d have the same rules if I was only just starting out in fanfiction now.

But also I’m just grateful that my fanfiction is just always free, and I can do whatever I want without ever having to worry about the bottom line, or income. That’s very freeing for me on a literal level, and it means I can relax. I would lose that if I was making a profit off of it.

But yeah otherwise, in a world where fanartists get to make wild profits off of what they’re doing? It’s frankly just straight up unfair if fanfiction writers can’t. It’s a double standard that hurts people.

[ritacaroline]

Starshine Ch.51 Jimmy Page Fan Fiction

The group followed Gary to a room near the dining hall. He stopped at a wall of portraits. 

Gary spoke : These  portraits are here to honor the many people who have either owned, or have run this castle. Beginning from way back in the 1700’s. Now, truthfully, there’s no one working here by the name of Zach. Nor any Griffins. However, from looking at this group of portraits from time to time, I do remember seeing one of a Mr. Griffins. Ok, here it is. From the 1930’s. He did reside here with a wife and 3 kids for several years. Does this look like him, at all ? 

The four all gathered about the picture and Jimmy spoke, “ Yes, I could see how this view could be him, at age 35.”

All agreed.

Gary : Well, you’re not going to enjoy the next details I’m about to tell you. In fact look for yourselves, this binder describes the lives of each individual represented in these portraits. Let’s have a good look, now shall we ?“

He pulled out the binder and handed in to Percy. Percy took the book and turned to the correct page.

Percy : Alright then, let’s read here, ”Ok, Zacharias Griffins. Born 1901. Decorated sea captain of several impressive and well known ships, employed by the Royal Navy. Resided here in Windmere Castle, with his wife Genevieve and three children, during 1930 through 1935. Was shot and killed in a hunting accident in January of 1935, at the age of 34. Accident occurred just north of the Jenssen Bridge, located one fourth mile from the castle front. His family vacated their residence here, after his death. Whereabouts unknown. The bridge was later renamed in his honor, to Griffins Bridge.“ 

Gary : So, then. People ? What are we saying here ? Did you see a specter ? An apparition, perhaps ?

Jimmy : Sounds highly likely. My flesh is tingling right now. 

Jill : Oh my goodness. I’m a little flipped out now. Can we speak to the chef, you know, about the scone thing he was saying ?

Gary : What scone thing ?

Jill : Old Zach said that he loved the blueberry scones the chef made, that we had to try them.

Gary : Well, now my hair is standing on end ! Our kitchen hasn’t prepared scones in at least twenty years. Your story is quite bewitching, and I predict we’ll have to print up your experience as our first ghost sighting. First one we’ll have on record, since the opening of this place to the public. 

The group dissipated. Jimmy and Jill took the lift up to their room.  

Jill told him, “Jim, I’m sorry to sound like a coward, but the fact that we probably spoke with an actual spirit just shakes me to the core ! And I’m afraid. It scares me.”

Jim replied, “ No darling, don’t be embarrassed. Everyone is scared sometimes.  Certain things have scared me during my life and I’m quite bothered by the fact that a ghost or specter directly interacted with us, and looked us square in the face !” 

Jill, “ Yeah, pretty overwhelming.”

Jim, “Yeah, maybe I should write a song about it.” 

The air in their room was damp and cool tonight. They each had put on a pair of cozy flannel pajamas and got into the big bed together. Jimmy was holding her and kissing her with plenty of sweet emotion. Jill was absolutely adoring it. His hair was soft and curly and the highlights were glowing from the flickering firelight against it. Jill found him to be spectacular. 

They quickly fell off to sleep, as the last of the embers burned out. Leaving the room extremely dark. Jill slept peacefully until a sensation caused her to awaken. At 3:30 a.m. It was a scent. The mild aroma of pipe smoke wafted into her head.  Sweet burning tobacco. She opened her eyes and felt the presence of someone or thing in the room. Extremely startled and frightened, she slowly backed herself up as close against Jimmy as she could. She remained perfectly silent, and pressed his arm more tightly around herself, in addition to the blankets. She breathed as slowly and quietly as humanly possible as her heart pounded in her chest.  Jimmy however, remained stone cold asleep throughout the entire ordeal. Lightly snoring with his mouth open.

Streaks of light from the bright full moon entered the room between the slats of the blinds. They were partially open. Then, the worst fright of all presented itself. The dim shadowy silhouette of a man smoking a pipe slowly crossed through the light streaks, emanating from the window. Could it be the old sea captain ? Who knows, but Jill was frozen in space right then, in a deep state of panic. Even more

confusing was seeing the slats of the blinds being closed. By whom though ? Upon that motion, the room became utterly dark, black as ink. Her inner thoughts shot to, “Next time Jimmy wants to go on an adventure, it won’t be to a haunted castle. I’ll choose the location next time !”  Next thing you know, she was asleep again. Dismissing the events and sights of this evening. All the trials and troubles of this long day had rendered her exhausted. It was way much for a woman having only recently recovered, from a lacerated liver and a concussion and a sprained ankle. Half the activities they accomplished today would’ve been  exhausting enough.

 Next  Ch. 52 :  https://ritacaroline.tumblr.com/post/188261409911/starshine-ch-52-jimmy-page-fan-fiction                                      

Chapter Index for “Starshine” is located at bottom section of Ch.1 ,  click here :

https://ritacaroline.tumblr.com/post/184383708541/starshine-ch-1-jimmy

Link to “In The Light” - original fan fic -https://ritacaroline.tumblr.com/post/173286165501/in-the-light-jimmy-page-fan-fiction

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