#and see that amy doesnt look like a hedgehog anymore.
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sonknuxadow · 1 year ago
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The thing that annoys me about the whole Sonic transition into 3d thing was actually more to do with people getting upset with the change in Sonic as a character then actually gameplay as classic was just a generic spunky kid protagonist before turning into the hedgehog personification of the X-treme 90s as modern. I mean look at how Archie had to really wrestles some characters to make the transition from classic to modern.
(BTW most of the old 3d Sonic games like the OG SA1 suffered from the same issues as Mario 64 such as really hard depth perception and weird level pacing but it's just much more noticeable in SA1 since Sonic being way faster could make it harder to navigate areas where you have to slow down and think, however alot of these issues were patched in DX)
ive never actually seen anyone say that .. like that sonic had a rough transition into 3d from a character stuff standpoint. not saying i dont believe you just that thats not a take ive ever heard before. i feel like personality wise hes mostly the same so were they mad that he has green eyes were that mad that he talks now. idk . guess i never considered this perspective because im too young to have ever lived in a world where only the classic games existed
and yeah im aware that sonic adventure isnt perfect i just think its strange that sonic specifically is the one people never shut up about having a rough transition into 3d and not any other franchise that went from 2d to 3d at some point . you mention mario 64 having a lot of the same issues and i cant say from experience because ive never played that game but a lot of people hype up mario 64 as one of the best games ever made so like. is there a weird double standard going on here or something
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teahatts · 7 months ago
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you know what, fuck it. i have more to say about silver
Silver is, as mentioned, always being ignored by Sega in literally any media they put out. even in Sonic Prime, or Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog, both in which they could have very easily incorporated him into (especially Sonic Prime. seriously. Time Travel, diffferent timelines, a mess of keeping each variation in check??? this is literally all Silver. i'm coming for you Sega) even if it were as simple as Silver coming in at the end and going batshit at Sonic and Shadow for causing such a big mess for him to clean up and keep in place
AND AND ☝️ don't even get me STARTED on he gets treated in canon.
Sonic 06 is the one i'm gonna bring up the most bc memphis tenesee can catch these motherfucking hands.
like, mephiles is, and i will die on this hill, one of the best written villains, perhaps even THE best villain that Sega has produced. he is evil for the sake of being evil, but not in the same way that eggman is. he's evil in a dark way, a manipulative way that we see with how he treats Silver, and by extension Blaze.
when you were to look at Mephiles plan, silvers role was not necessary at all. mephiles didn't manipulate and gaslight silver due to a greater plan, he did because he was bored. Silver nearly killed Sonic (and don't say he didn't, silver was more than ready to kill a man if he thought it was necessary) simply because mephiles wanted to see how it would play out.
THEN, him befriending and proving his worth, creating friendships and actually better understanding the world, IT ALL DOESNT MATTER BECAUSE THE TIMELINE GETS RESET (i love angst so so much, but by god im gonna climb up the wall)
Silver being a time traveler doesn't help either considering how he is stuck in between two impossible situations. on one hand he can befriend ppl from the future that may begin to exist whenever the future is saved, however, every time the future is ruined, those people wouldn't be alive anymore. then when the future is safe, those people may just straight up cease to exist due to technicalities that could arise from time travel or they would not remember silver because of him going back in time and due to time travel technicalities.
then we got the other side because what would sega do besides give us so much fucking angst hidden in optimistic characters that just want to see other happy. (Sega, once i'm done with memphis, i'm coming for your jugular.) The otherwise is Silver befriending the people of the past. him befriending Sonic, Amy, Espio, Vanilla, Blaze, and everyone else is all fun since they are all very good people. until you pay attention to the fact there is a over 200 year time difference between them and Silver and that when Silver were to come back to his home, y'know, the one that he never knows will be an alive place with actual living organisms or an endless ball of fire, all of them would be dead!! oh and also them really seeing him as a bad omen since he almost always come when something bad happen. this doesn't affect his mental health at all!!!
So Silver is stuck between two options that both suck and aren't good for him. He is constantly lonely, lonely in all things someone as optimistic and joyful shouldn't be.
and i distinctly remember when i was a kid, first getting into sonic, the way that Silver was treated in the fandom. he was hated on so much. i didnt understand it and i still don't understand the sheer amount of hate i saw my favorite character receive. i'm so glad the fandom be a lot nicer to him and actually treat him like a character, but goodness, the damage that he received simply from being connected to Sonic 06 was insane to me.
in the end, Silver is still a kid. a fourteen year old that just wishes for a better future that was lok
Sega really did just give silver the most depressive backstory in all of Sonic history. like they just straight up said
"yeah he lives in an apocalyptic world that is on Fire in complete isolation and his only best friend was sent to a different dimension after the whole universe was reset bc some Evil Dude took advantage of his naivety and hope for a better future to destroy all of time and space and he's stuck over 200 years in the future so every friend he ever makes would be long dead by the time he time travels back to his home that, incase you forgot, is a ball of fucking fire because ppl keep on trying to destroy the world and he has to keep trying to travel back in time to fix a problem that will only repeat itself and he is considered an Omen of Death by many as his prescience means destruction and he cannot catch a break and he is only 14"
pleas let this boy be in a big game, series, comic, literally anything i beg of you sega let this poor boy breathe he has been through enough
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superemeralds · 6 years ago
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ive had my own idea for a sonic movie that would still be live action and a generic child-friendly action-comedy just like the “real” sonic movie is (presumably) gonna be
IN SHORT!
The main character that makes a duo with sonic for the majority of the movie is a young girl named June.
The overall plot is very similar to sonic x, but altered to fit the time span of the usual one and a half hours movie length in movies like that.
detailed description, explanation of the pictures and character info under the cut!
Through a mal-induced chaos control eggman and sonics friends get transported into the real world. this time space rift causes some really weird stuff to happen and June gets seperated from her dad, who was just on his way to bring her to school.
at first she thinks its cool to meet a talking blue hedgehog in a really pretty nature-y place and skip school to play with him, but soon they notice that they are not alone. Eggmans robots got transported to our world too! June gets captured because she is seen with sonic and therefore identified as a threat by eggmans robots! Sonic runs after her towards what seems to be eggmans base.
meanwhile the dad was transported to a really high place, whihc is bad cos he’s  got fear of heights. Luckily tails and knuckles appear and offer to help him down
both teams start looking for eachother, but get interrupted by various obstacles. June and Sonic get hold off by eggmans schemes, while Dad and Sonics friends stumble upon amy, who just escaped a military research facility. she hoped that cream would be with the others, but it seemed that they had to go back and save her. the Dad used to be a hobby boxer, but since he’s a lawyer he doesn’t really do that much anymore. it surely helped him when taking out those government officials. its funny how a lawyer breaks the law, right? there’s many jokes on that and his character development goes from strict father figure that doesnt allow fun and insists on obeying the law to a wild and free man who does what’s right, even if  he has to break rules. (also he screams “sorry” every time he KOs someone because hes that kinda guy)
June and sonic manage to infiltrate the egg carrier that was transported into our world and set it to crash and render all his stuff useless!
However, the ship is on course for the city which they didnt realize until it started losing height. eggman pretends that he can still stop this if the people are willing to make him their unquestionable ruler, but sonic and june are determined to stop the ship themselves. sonic keeps eggman busy while June is in the command center trying to find a way to make the ship change course and go crash in the ocean.
in the end everything is exploding and falling apart and eggman is fleeing, June managed to change the ships course and runs up to sonic telling him he needs to run, sonic says that she doesnt have to tell him twice and they go.
sonic gets blown to the side by an explosion and trips over debris, making his knee bleed a little (u cant see blood bc this is kid friendly hes just hurt like theres dirt or smth lol) and he tells june to run and not worry, but she comes back and lifts him on her back and is determined to run as fast as she can to get outside
when she reaches a door she screams because she’s scared. they are close to the ground, but not close enoguh to make it alive if she jumped... then sonic hugs her from behind and says “jump on my command” and shes like. no way. but he says “trust me we’re not gonna get hurt if we hit water” and shes like “but i cant swim that well” sonic chuckles “me neither” and then she gets the memo and is all determined and ready and they make it and its magical
they might also have a scene thats a nudge to 06 where sonic is very Positive and gives good life advice.
while everything seems like its perfect eggman is starting plan B of his conquer the others were all alarmed by the crashing egg carrier and therefore came speeding in the modified car tails rebuild for Dad (it can turn into a fucken plane. Dad and June are finally reunited and he thanks sonic for watching after her, and sonics like nah ur daughter totally watched after me shes a hero.
and then they work together to stop eggmans final boss robot and save the city.
at some point they all found chaos emeralds somewhere. and sonic can turn super to finish eggman off. yeah that sounds cool.
that also makes him and the others fade back into their own dimension, bc hes Got That Power
in the end its just him, June and Dad iin midst of a park in the city with debris and shit and June is like. sonic dont go we jsut became friends
and sonics like. treasure the memories you make and live life to the fullest bc u only got this one shot and u gotta make the best of it. n her dad is all agreeing and shakes his hand and is like. thanks sonic
and June hugs him and cries but smiles and sonic says nice smile bc im kinda getting emotional writing this all out and then he disappears in a flash of light and in that moment it cuts to the mom on the side of the park in her car with the window down going “what the-” and credits roll
thanks for reading
okay i know most of this was really silly and unfinished but granted i was making this all up as i went on and on about this and like. yea. i brainstormed this in like. 2 horus time completely from scratch, only using sonic X as basis for the plot and the humor of popular and successful action comedies as inspiration for the tone of the movie
as for the characters i just thoguht a carefree girl thats tired of being stuffed into a mold meeting sonic and learning that its okay to be herself and do what u think is right, learning that kindness really is the most powerful thing on earth and that friendships are precious??? hell fucking yeah!
also child character is more relateable than a fucking cop. kids will be able to relate to June, while adults (long time fans most of all) will be able to see their past self in her.
as for the dad, a lot of adults might see themselves in this dad role who just wants the best for his  kid, while being stuck in a boring job that doesnt really fulfil them, but pays the bills and the lifestyle the family has.
I also really wanted characters that you have not seen before. Whenever i see a black dad he has a shaved head and thats kinda boring its just. basic. nothing agianst dads with shaved heads but why is Every Single(black) Dad Bald/Buzzcut? so i gave him dreads because why not? looks cool when he does action shit. whoosh whoosh
i knew i wanted a kid and i knew i wanted a girl. im really fond of puffy pigtails and i decided to go with a black girl just because! it was the very first thing that came to my mind when i was looking for an adventurous girl that wants to go on adventures with a blue talking hedgehog.
plus loving black dads that lov their girls rly rly need rep u_u
as for sonics design, i tried to compromise with the movie’s need for a more realistic sonic by making him overall fluffier to hint at texture, but keeping his core design and proportions.
the same goes for all the other characters.
I’m still very thinking emoji about eggman, I think it would be best to have him be either played by a fat person. Like Really Fat Person to resemble his original design (hes fat okay who cares abt slanky legs) or have him be CGI/partially CGI due to the fact that he’s from another dimension.
and uh. that’s all i have to say for now! it’s 1am and i should get to bed!
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